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Pendle Witch
12th Oct 2019 10:34:05
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I always thought the plural of roof was rooves. Why is rooves no longer used?

Also, what is "from the get-go" supposed to mean?
Response from lonewolf56 made 4 days ago
It basically means since the beginning. Brits also have some pretty interesting slang as well.

In the U.S. I have never seen rooves as a plural for roof. It would make sense, though.
4 days ago
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I get the feeling from these posts that many of you are from the UK. As an American, I can attest to the horrible English many people use, and much of our slang is non sensical. As a former English teacher, I've heard a lot of it. I've stopped correcting kids because there's too much to correct. I have learned to tune it out. I don't think American schools emphasize grammar as much as European schools.

I am flabbergasted by how many Americans can't spell. I frequently see adults write things like "egg's" or "there coming to my house." They should know better!
Response from Yodama made 4 days ago
Be kind lonewolf, not everybody has had the luxury of a top notch education.
Since you were a teacher, you will know that some of your pupils would have come from backgrounds where education is not on top of their survival list.

Dyslexics, people who are foreign, people who have handicaps and mental problems must be cut some slack. A perfect world where everybody does everything perfectly is a Disney world.
I am wondering if Pedanticism is a proper word, perhaps you could help me? 😉
12th Oct 2019 11:55:11
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This has been a bugbear of mine for years!! I think we should all be aware how these Americanisms are encroaching into our society. I hate the word 'gotten' - is it even a word? I don't want us to become the 51st state but it often feels like thats what we are becoming. Many schoolchildren use American spellcheckers on their PCs. When I was in teaching I always told my classes to use a dictionary.
Response from jeanmark made on 15th Oct 2019 19:35:28
It would it appear MaryPoppins56 that you are not alone with regard to the word 'gotten'. However, despite the many claims that it is an Americanism, it is of British origin and the Oxford English Dictionary traces its first use to the 4th century.
12th Oct 2019 11:59:46
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I also hate it when someone says 'I didn't do nothing'. I always think 'well you must have done something then'! I'm sorry to say but its usually Liverpudlians who use this phrase. It really irritates me!
Response from CaroleAH made on 13th Oct 2019 19:13:47
Not sure about Liverpudlians but a double negative usually translates to a positive!
11th Jan 2019 09:32:14
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The most irritating word at the moment is 'so'. Why, oh why do people have to preface a sentence with it? Is it a stalling mechanism while thoughts are gathered? Is it an affectation learned from other cultures? Whatever the reason, it really annoys me!
Response from reevej made on 11th Feb 2019 22:18:13
I totally agree with you . Unfortunately, it is being used in the media with increasing frequency. My greatest fear is that I will use it myself without being aware. Jen
Response from MoiraC8 made on 25th Sep 2019 18:29:52
I agree about "so" but "like" is even more annoying. For example - "I was like...", "they were like...." etc.
19th Sep 2019 16:59:09
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I am really tired of hearing presenters and sports commentators who cannot pronounce the word 'sixth'. So many now say 'sikth' and I know it's petty but it really irritates me.
6th Sep 2019 16:25:08
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My current ire is for those who use ´amount’ instead of ´number’, as in ´an amount of cars’ or ´an amount of people’. This would only be appropriate if you were weighing them, or measuring their length etc.
31st Jul 2019 15:18:40
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Bad English Grammar annoys me greatly.

Hearing it or reading it detracts immensely from whatever meaning or pleasure I'm trying to derive from any situation.

What is even worse, is outlandish exaggeration. I of course refer to trend of everybody now claiming that everything is 'awesome'. Another great import from America.

The Grand Canyon is an awesome sight. Witnessing and being a part of the birth of your first child, is an awesome experience. I have no doubt the Hanging Gardens of Babylon were also a magnificent and awesome sight. Pizzas, Coffee, clothes and nights out are not awesome.
Response from KLR made on 31st Jul 2019 21:25:13
I couldn't agree more: my current pet hate is the use of the word "impact" instead of affect or effect, closely followed by using "so" at the beginning of sentences.
31st May 2019 18:22:18
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Why do people think that dogs are dirty when humans are more disgusting than animals
30th May 2019 15:21:09
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I get very irritated at bad spelling and punctuation. I wonder, are these mistakes or just ignorance. My pet hate is the use of, I am assuming, Jamaican slang. I want to write back, you are British for heavens sake, speak like it.
Response from CaroleAH made on 31st May 2019 13:22:53
Felix1, I am confused! Why is "I am assuming" Jamaican slang? What would you use instead of that prefix to a question?
6th Mar 2019 20:14:21
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Nuffink. Should of. Bu''er. Australian inflection. Starting every sentence with "So". The English language is going to hell in a handbasket and the authorities, (Teachers who shouldn't be let within a 100 miles of an infant. Teaching assistants; what a joke that title is. Politicians. Councillors.) are all helping it on its way. What next? Grunting?
Response from jeanmark made on 8th Mar 2019 19:56:24
I take it you are neither a currently employed teacher or a teaching assistant. If you were, you would have more insight into the problems they are having to cope with. Have you ever tried teaching a class of 30 plus pupils? A friend of mine teaches in primary school and her class is small at 36!
6th Mar 2019 21:08:30
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Language is volatile, which is self evident by virtue of the fact that we don’t talk like William Shakespeare, any more. What depresses me is the fact that this volatility, is from the streets, upwards, so it is incumbent on our education system that we maintain a certain standard, as was the case in my youth. PLEASE. For the sake of my sanity!
5th Mar 2019 09:52:40
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So grammar and vocabulary are important, but they are part of communication, not something separate. Vocabulary plays an important part in learning to read. These are important parts of your ability to communicate in English. Of course, your goal is to communicate well when speaking, listening, reading and writing. So, join IELTS Classes in Nagpur is a good place to begin planning your English grammar preparation. And they provide extra lectures of Grammar, Vocabulary building, and communication skills taken for students who are not very confident into it.
24th Feb 2019 18:12:16
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I have two pet hates, more to do with pronunciation, but irritating none the less. These are ‘skelington’ instead of skeleton and ‘somethink’ instead of something. I really struggle not to correct people when they use them
18th Feb 2019 10:23:22
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I'm a non-native English speaker; so I like to read discussion boards on grammar.

What I find somewhat amusing is that some people who express utter disdain for the grammatically challenged have spelling and syntax errors in their post/s.

Sometimes, those with a high and mighty tone are the ones whose grammar and spelling I'm tempted to correct. But I don't.
3rd Feb 2019 10:56:21
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My Grandson tells me grammar is not important any more because the computer will correct it for you. I ask him how does the computer know what you what you mean?
11th Jan 2019 07:02:35
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Why is it so difficult to pronounce the letter t these days, so often it is ignored. And what on earth does the phrase 'ahead of 'mean when announcers talk about something coming before or after something, I don't know what they mean. At the top of the hour presumably means at whatever o clock.
If we gradually erode English and say it does not matter, what on earth are we going to end up with?
Response from DeeAnnJ made on 25th Jan 2019 10:12:50
I wonder what Chaucer, Shakespeare or Jane Austen would make of current English usage.
4th Aug 2018 19:49:42
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Why are TV presenters and others in the media unable to use correct grammer I was taught that liquid is measured in drops not bits e.g. weather forcasters now refer to a bit of rain. One is singular therefore the correct phrase is This one or these not these ones which seems to be used by people who are supposed to be educated to degree level. I wonder how they ever passed their exams. Another pet hate of mine is being adressed as a guy, a group of all females should be addressed as ladies and a mixed sex group as everybody or even folks. I invariably correct anyone who uses "Guys" when i am a member of the party by saying excuse me I am female and not a guy.
Response from jeanmark made on 5th Aug 2018 13:55:17
Invariably, if a weather forecaster said 'drops' of rain, some bright spark would ask how many! As to education, as long as the written grammar is correct, speaking it isn't necessary to gain a degree. Whether we like it or not, we live in modern times and the Queen's english is no longer necessary to be able to communicate and be understood - if it was, half our presenters would be out of a job as they have regional accents.
Response from MarionE6 made on 26th Oct 2018 21:20:32
English still needs a capital letter and a lot of the spoken English by newsreaders and commentators has nothing to do with regional accents but mostly laziness e.g li'le instead of little
Response from jeanmark made on 27th Oct 2018 19:18:44
Oh dear Marion, I believe I have just been reprimanded and I do believe that regional accents can alter the way certain words are spoken. I will in future remember to check that I have used a capital letter when writing the word English and correct all my friends who have strong regional accents. and thus pronounce words 'incorrectly'!
21st Sep 2018 09:29:45
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I have noticed lately that reporters on TV say that something is "not fit the purpose". Surely the correct way to say it would be, it "does not fit the purpose" or "is not fit for the purpose"? Am I just being pedantic?
15th Aug 2018 17:54:35
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Am I alone in cringing at American spelling. In my mind I have to add back the U's and change sidewalk to pavement etc.
English grammar seems to be losing its importance to young people, I wonder what sort of a language English will become in future years.
Response from Yodama made on 15th Aug 2018 23:16:34
Time moves inexorably on David46, what once was, is passing into oblivion.
When the children of the future are fitted with Neural Lace, they will become Cyborg and may not need to spell.
They will be able to interact with everything. Maybe telepathy will be the order of the day and laborious writing and spelling will be buried forever.
Just my hypothesis for what it is worth!
Response from David46 made on 16th Aug 2018 05:40:58
I agree time moves on, I can accept the demise of the semi colon but I still cringe at broadcasters saying things like 'at the top of the hour' and 'ahead of the news's. I don't even know what that means, is it before or after the news?
If telepathy becomes the order of the day that would be disastrous, what would happen when a lady asks you if a dress suits her, you know you would make a diplomatic reply but your brain waves immediately shoot back a reply that it looks ridiculous.
In the matter of grammar maybe I am becoming a grumpy old man, but I remember the unintentionally humourous cry that went up when we went decimal,' why can't they wait until all the old people are dead'?
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