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Do you currently own a diesel car?

Hundreds of doctors, nurses and other health workers are calling on the Prime Minister to take action to get polluting diesel vehicles off the UK’s roads as soon as possible.

The recently formed Doctors Against Diesel group is campaigning for greater awareness of the health impacts of diesel emissions and for action to reduce the number of vehicles using the polluting fuel in towns and cities.

Air pollution from sources including factories and vehicles, particularly diesel engines, is linked to the early deaths of about 40,000 people a year in the UK – and causes problems such as heart and lung diseases and asthma.

Nearly 300 health professionals have written to Theresa May, highlighting evidence of the impacts of pollutants including nitrogen dioxide and soot, particularly for children, and calling for a diesel reduction initiative.

It doesn’t seem that long ago that we were encouraged to buy diesel cars over petrol fuelled engines. Ownership of diesel cars has more than trebled in the last 15 years – driven by misguided government tax incentives that identified diesel as a ‘green’ fuel. Almost 1.3million new diesels were registered last year, 48 per cent of all car purchases, according to figures from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders.

What are your views? Do you drive a diesel car?  Would you buy a diesel car? What do you think of the latest campaign to raise awareness of the health implications linked to diesel engines? What do you think the government should do?

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Darkstar
12th Aug 2017
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I have a diesel Jag, and can't find anything to match it for comfort and fuel economy. I think the government have just realised, that when they made zero tax on a lot of new cars they are now very short on revenue, so need to get it back some how.
Saw
21st May 2017
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I own a diesel Jaguar and it is one of the cleanest cars on the road but keep hearing rumors of going to be taxed off the road what is going to happen to the modern diesel cars they are cleaner than petrol ones ?
viking
15th May 2017
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Having had a diesel car previously, I foresaw with certain rumblings that diesel would receive a thumbs down from certain areas, so I went with a petrol car. Big mistake !! The low down torque by comparison is pathetic, so no doubt I shall require a replacement gear box soon!
Any way just think it will be good for the tax revenues, as both parties will want to hike up the cost of diesel on the pretext it is so damaging to our health and the hike is for our own good !! etc.,etc.,
Barton babe
7th Apr 2017
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I have never had or wanted a diesel car, they make more noise on start up and you can see the black smoke coming from the rear on start up.
richardherts
30th Mar 2017
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We bought these when everyone said they were cleaner, though having a VW that is obviously rubbish now. Are we the only country in the world not prosecuting them for lying?
short5
16th Mar 2017
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I have a diesel at the moment,and will be looking to swap to another come October.We are hearing from media sources,that diesel owners are coming under threat, of financial penalties,due to the goalposts being moved once again by so called scientists,that got it so wrong.Are they still to be regarded as reliable; i dont think so....
The latest Euro 6 compliant diesel engines,emit far less pollutants than ever before;in fact less than petrol i understand.
So;for the last 10 to 15 years whilst petrol was assumed to be public enemy number 1,were no plans contemplated for petrol owners to pay a premium.Far from it in fact,petrol has for the most part,remained 2 to 3 pence cheaper per litre than diesel..
Can anyone explain the logic of this please...
Wilf
16th Mar 2017
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I dont think there is a logic apart from the fact tat Diesel has much higher NO2 and PMIs than petrol which is damaging to health. Bit like smoking really. We have had diesels for years by the way!
Billythequiche
14th Mar 2017
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We had to wait for retirement to buy a relatively new car. It had to be safe, comfortable, easy to get in/out (suv), reliable and economical. All the wisdom at the time was that Diesel was best and the Road Tax confirmed that. As this was to be our ''forever'' car, it would be devastating if we were to be penalised in the future for taking the governments advice. Other than a like for like swap for petrol, or a refund on the purchase price, I see no way out. We took all we could afford from our pensions to buy this car so a ''scrappage'' discount would not work. I am sure that if only a small portion of the research effort into electric/fuel cell was diverted to formulating a cleaner diesel fuel it would soon happen; after all the diesel is inherently more efficient than petrol.
Yepuxl
13th Mar 2017
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Infant and adult mortality was higher before the Industrial Revolution.
Does anybody gauge the opportunity/cost of their decisions. Or is it just the motorist as an easy target?
Will Southampton ban the cruise ships? https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/08/ports-pollution-cruising-ships-freight-sea
Bein
13th Mar 2017
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I currently have a caravan so need the economy of diesel my understanding is that modern diesel cars to the current E U standard filter out most of the pollutants. I understand the argument in large towns and cities however petrol has its problems regarding polluting . We need technology to solve these problems and we need it now
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Tonypate
12th Mar 2017
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Bit confused. I bought my diesel new last year and it uses something called blue ad. I was told this makes ad polluting as a petrol car. Is this true?
PeteP
12th Mar 2017
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I drive a diesel 4x4 but we live in the countryside. Our air quality here is very good. I can see there are problems in the cities, but please dont let them slap any more taxes on us.
Davetommo
12th Mar 2017
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I am the owner of two diesel cars and I find it scary that so called expert opinion has swung full tilt now against this fuel type. When you consider a change in vehicle fuels you would expect significant consultation with the manufacturers of vehicles and the petrol companies. This does not appear to be taking place! So let's stop all this scare mongering and wait for a policy on new vehicles. Currently most new 2017 vehicle are offering very efficient Diesel engine options with low emissions
We need a lead from manufacturers not just the so called experts
Think again and let's have a plan put forward properly.
Wilf
12th Mar 2017
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We have just sold our old landrover discovery for £800. It would have cost £2,000 to get past the MOT but I can see the writing on the wall with diesels and think in 10 years they will be banned and/or taxed sky high.
CyrilS
12th Mar 2017
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I run minibuses which are diesel. All my work is long distance over 100,000 per year. I I had to switch to petrol it would put me out of business as you don't get anywhere near so much mileage from that fuel so my prices would triple.
Also you would have to pay more for your purchases as all delivery wagons are diesel as well. Be careful what you wish for.
DG
12th Mar 2017
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Tell that to all the people who will die early.
CyrilS
13th Mar 2017
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Not a problem down here. There is life outside London.
DavidT21
12th Mar 2017
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I own 2 eco diesel cars which in place of a spare wheel have a tank containing a special fluid which removes the nitrogen oxide from the exhaust emissions. This new technology is never mentioned in the press when they slate diesel cars.
Foggs65
12th Mar 2017
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The press and others should do more to expose the problem with air polution from Diesal fumes is more related to older vehicles more than modern well maintained cars.
I run a 2016 compliant vehicle that I have no plans to change and if I did change I would choose another Diesal
Press coverage is likely to unreasonably surpress the value Diesal cars / vans. Additionally most of Europes vehicles are Diesal
parsnip54
12th Mar 2017
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I bought a diesel car for my wife believing that it was more fuel efficient and cleaner emissions therefore better for the environment. Surely the super rich fuel manufacturers can come up with an improved diesel fuel to rectify the problem or are we just going to lay down and except the possibility of diesel fuel either rocketing in price or disappearing from the forecourts?
thefoz
11th Mar 2017
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I have a diesel Fiat panda and there is no way I shall be changing it until motor sports especially truck racing and air displays are banned. They may not use diesel but they do use high octane fuel which is just as bad. What about all the extra pollution from the extra aircraft the government want to encourage over London by expanding the airport(s).
jeaniembe
10th Mar 2017
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We have a diesel car after the government encouraged us with how wonderful for the environment they were and the cost of taxing it. Now they are saying they were wrong. So I expect they will be buying us a new car, NOT!!! So we will be keeping ours and we are happy with it. I wonder will they be having a go at all the wood burning stoves next, which are a bigger nuisance.
Hazbeck48
10th Mar 2017
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Modern diesel cars are environmentally friendly these days. It's the older vehicles, especially buses and taxis who are the biggest polluters. Our car has a road tax of £20 per year, based on its low emissions, so I don't feel too guilty about running a diesel vehicle.
linda1959
10th Mar 2017
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Well as the Government a few years back suggested the diesel was most effective I bought one and have been pleased with it . I am now not working and need a car, but have not got the money to go and trade it. I also presume since this has been priority on the news that the money you get for a trade in will be so much less. I understand there could be a health problem, but there are health problems highlighted every day so NO I am not going to change my car at the moment.
difdog
10th Mar 2017
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Bad advice from government, but you can be sure they will make people who took their advice pay for their error
Sd
9th Mar 2017
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There will need to be hugh incentives for everyone to change. Why should the public pay for yet another load of bad advice from the government? Time to sort themselves out I think, what a shambles
Valmac
2nd Mar 2017
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We recently bought a seven seater diesel car so that we can transport grandchildren in one car other than taking two cars . Sometimes it seems you can never get it right
Pete H
1st Mar 2017
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I'm amazed that 91% of us are using diesels (myself included) It is extraordinary and a scandal that we have all been so badly informed by the powers that be and have been actively encouraged to use diesel cars for many years supposedly because of lower emissions as well as overall running costs.

Now they have changed their mind and want us to change then they need to provide decent financial incentives to switch.
Speeednet
28th Feb 2017
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If only I could afford to change my car
Jenninora
26th Feb 2017
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Nowadays we have become greatly dependent on motorised and technology. So much that it is causing problems in spheres of health, travel and our time. Our lives are slowly drawn in to the nasty side. Yes we need to get from A to B. Yes we need to satisfy our enquiringly minds. At what a cost? Commercial endeavour, Authority advice which is conflicting sends us into what's up mode. Diesel is toxic. The bigger the contamination and the bigger the consequences. Large contamination from enormous vehicles in confined areas of people dwelling must be contributing to the changes in tack from the missives published. A few years ago the haulage industry enlarged the size of truck load. That takes a more powerful Diesel engine. So much is coming to light that is causing problems. Why is the NHS overloaded.? ? A knock on effect.
SeniorSOG
25th Feb 2017
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I bought a diesel car years ago under the mistaken belief it was good for the environment! Im aghast to find how wrong I've been. Im a retired nurse and will be changing my car in next few weeks
Metime
25th Feb 2017
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This is probably another way of allowing the tax duty on Diesal cars to be increased with out to much of a public outcry. The Goverment is hell bent on raising duty anyway it can, These health professionals, were they hand picked.? ,There's likely to be many more who have an opposing opinion but this group fills the Goverments own criteria.
Hazbeck48
25th Feb 2017
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Our 2016 Citroën C4 Picasso is classed as low emission and we therefore currently pay Road Tax of £20. In my opinion, the car manufacturers are addressing this problem, but the biggest polluters are buses and lorries, and these are the manufacturers the government should be tackling.
Pennine123
24th Feb 2017
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I Have a Diesel car but will change to a petrol when I trade in
MrsPat
23rd Feb 2017
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We have a diesel and its cheap to run but I would not want my grandkids breathing in all this polluted air so the quicker they phase them out the better.
gailyp63
23rd Feb 2017
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diesel used to be a cheaper fuel and after brexit who knows how our fuel situation will be if we worried about pollution 24/7 industries would suffer and we all follow guidelines with emissions due to eu regulation now I thought.
oleboyredw
21st Feb 2017
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My diesel car has an mpg of around 56 and a CO2 emission of 115. The petrol version is lower on mpg and around 150 CO2 emmission. Making the (rash) assumption that other emmissions may have a same profile I cannot see how getting rid of diesel cars is the right tack. Watching lorries whenndriving around I would say in genereal they emit more.

If they want to do simething constructive improve engine emmissions and resolve the issues with electric cars to get rid of diesel AND petrol over time. Lack of research and funding is, in my opinion the big issue. Banning diesel is like putting a sticking plaster on a broken leg.... more drastic and forward looking measures are needed.
Lionel
21st Feb 2017
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I drive a diesel too and cannot but agree with you. I've also been a truck driver and wonder if we have batteries for electic trucks to haul a gross vehicular weight of sixty five tonnes in excess of six hundred miles and recharge in the time it takes to fill diesel tanks?

Since it seems the major problem with diesel emissions occurrs in cities and towns, perhaps we would be better to decree electric cars and small electric vans for those areas whilst the rest of us are left alone to run our diesels?

Paraphrasing your post, it's a step way too far; without the affordable and viable technology it remains a lot of huff and puff!
Twiggles
19th Feb 2017
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I can understand getting rid of diesel cars over a certain age but new vehicles are already on low emissions . Cars under ten years old should not be taken into account.
4Stringer
19th Feb 2017
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I drive a Diesel car and when taking its MOT the emissions were to low to obtain a positive reading!!
Happy and Contented
19th Feb 2017
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If you're going to ban all diesel cars because of excessive pollution. Why not go the whole hog and bank all the lorries and buses as well and bring the country to a stand still.
Red Panda
18th Feb 2017
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We invested in a new diesel VW in 2003 believing it to be better all round than petrol. We have used it ever since and service it regularly. We are pensioners and do not want and cannot afford another car so I hope they come up with some other ideas!
Lionel
18th Feb 2017
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That's where we are. Well said!
Jake53
17th Feb 2017
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Why is the British government not in the dock for abandoning renewable energy, carbon capture and investing £200 BILLION to renew Trident? I would suggest that nuclear fall out is a significantly bigger polluter than any diesel ever will be!!!
For some reason people in this country pick on the chicken feed issues but totally miss or ignore the massive risks!
jeanmark
19th Feb 2017
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Diesel pollution in towns and cities, why worry as according to the research it is only your grandchildren that will suffer from longterm exposure, it's too late for us oldies.
Jbro
17th Feb 2017
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I first got diesel when the government had a campaign to encourage us to go to diesel. Are they going to be compensating us when we can't trade in our cars for a petrol one. Since retiring I only do up to 5,000 miles a year, walk to shops whenever I can. Is this going to be a ' salt is bad for you, butter is bad for you. Oh fast forward butter is better for you than low fat spread. Salt is needed to keep healthy - low salt is bad for you. I really do give up.
Lionel
17th Feb 2017
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Yep! That's just what it is. Everything they say is bad for you, but 'they' are good for you.

I've lived just a little too long to believe anything a politician says, nor an expert or professional.

Well said, by the way.
Yokker
17th Feb 2017
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There's going to be a lot of people without food with no lorries on the road.
jeaniembe
17th Feb 2017
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Ha Ha. The country's obesity problem solved in one foul swoop!
mick2e1hzm
17th Feb 2017
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I have a friend who has a diesel and he only does about 7000 miles a year, but you need to do about 16,000 miles a year for a diesel car to be as cheap to run as a petrol,
DoItDreckly
17th Feb 2017
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So if we ban diesels, that'll be another 40,000 oldies a year to look after, added on to our already overburdened NHS which already blames too many oldies taking up beds for their failure to cope.
Improve public transport (ours is actually laughable down here in Cornwall) so as we do not need cars, problem solved!
jeanmark
17th Feb 2017
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I think it's the "irreversible lung damage" to children that is the concern, it's probably too late for us oldies, we are already a burden. Doctors Against Diesel are asking that cars and lorries using diesel should be taken off Britain's streets as soon as possible, focusing on towns and cities first. I don't think they believe it is their concern with regard to the logistics of it. Public transport is only the answer if buses are hybrid and can shut down the diesel motor when they go into towns/cities.

I suppose it really depends on whether we firstly believe the data and secondly whether we are worried about our grandchildren's health and well being. Oh well, it takes away blaming smokers for all evil.
sallylorraine
17th Feb 2017
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Doctors against diesel? Have they got nothing better to do with their time? Are they going to have a whip round to help out all the diesel drivers to buy a new car?
jeanmark
17th Feb 2017
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I think there is a big problem with the change but it is recognising that when diesel was encouraged they were less pollutant and cheaper to run. Manufacturers have now worked so hard to reduce the pollution of petrol cars and make then more cost effective that they're now considered the best option. Maybe car manufactures should be blamed, after all they lost so much money on reduced sales of petrol cars a number of years ago they had to try and address the problem. Not that I'm cynical.

As for food and other 'scares', why do people think things do not move forward and thus thinking changes. The only constant is change!
steve263
17th Feb 2017
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Yes, I have a diesel car. It is five years old, and uses nearly half the fuel my petrol one did. The government urged us to buy diesels a few years ago, and now they want them banned. When they start banning the trucks and buses that cause a hundred times more pollution than cars maybe then I will listen. Maybe they have to start somewhere, but start with the big vehicles and if they want, pay me to change my car. Yes. right that will happen.
KiwiPete
17th Feb 2017
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The government encouraged us to buy diesel cars. they are reliable and cheap to run. If the Government introduces a reasonable scrappage scheme and reduction on expensive Electric cars they may get diesel cars off the road.
grammamia
17th Feb 2017
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My car is a diesel. It is so green in it's emissions that it has zero tax. How does the government explain the sudden change in thinking which makes my car now the worst polluting vehicle on earth, and needs to be banned!
Ericm0hff
17th Feb 2017
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So the pathetic government want to ban diesels - What about all the HGV's, trains, ships, and industrial generators. They are all diesel, and chuck out loads of filth.
Then there are the jet turbines of aircraft (and ships) - they are filthy too.
Any propulsion system that uses fossil fuel is filthy, it has to be, anything that burns something else creates a form of pollution.
They tried to eliminate coal-fired power stations - what with - Nuclear. The pollution that they create lingers for thousands of years!
Wind generators don't work for most of the time, because it is either not windy enough, or too windy!
In the UK, solar power is a joke and the joke is on us, because WE finance it!
jeanmark
17th Feb 2017
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I think the problem relates to towns and cities and as identified in the question it is the health professionals and such groups as Doctors Against Diesel that have called for action.
jeaniembe
17th Feb 2017
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The government are going to buy me a new car? Not likely! So I will be sticking with my diesel which they encouraged us to buy in the first place. Why don't these Drs against diesel get on to ridding us of wood burners while they are at it, then I may be able to open my bedroom window, or even better perhaps they could give me an appointment in less than 3 weeks. Sorry for the rant, but I feel better now. Lol...
thefilthycripple
17th Feb 2017
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This idea is lunacy ,when I drive to London the vast majority of vehicles are diesel lorries and vans ,so why is the Fire turned on private motorists ? Many newer cars that are diesel are quite low emission ,so a blanket ban is very unfair .,once again the Nannystate is using a sledgehammer to crack a nut
jeanmark
17th Feb 2017
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Once again, it is the health professional that have raised the issue and demand that the government do something to reduce pollution. The issue relates to ALL diesel vehicles not just private cars and that is where the problem lies.
jad
17th Feb 2017
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Don't you just get sick of so called experts which I must add contradict each other on a daily basis, "you can eat this but, you cannot eat that", "this is good for you, this is bad for you" they try to control everything from what we eat, drink, drive who pays all these researchers ??.
The latest is, you have not got to sit in the sun, but because people are not getting enough sun we now have to add vitamin D , sorry but I don't even take any notice of them any more, they make lots of this up just so they can get more money out of us, dearer diesel prices and more expensive road tax, I have drove a diesel since 1986 and will never change to petrol or electric.
jeanmark
17th Feb 2017
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I think you will find that specialists in lung diseases are not making the issue up. They are in practice and see the harm that pollution does every working day. No body appears to have criticised these same specialist for trying to ban tobacco!
Kitty2215
17th Feb 2017
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As always two conflicting stories
rungless
17th Feb 2017
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Sit behind a bus or lorry and see who chucks out more crap than my 1.6D with DPF!
thefilthycripple
17th Feb 2017
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Well said and so true
Lesley M
17th Feb 2017
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When I left school in 1965 I went to work in an Esso station and I can safely say there were very, very few diesel cars. The only diesel pump was away on its own for the big lorries etc and better known as Derv then. If I remember correctly it was a heck of a lot cheaper to buy too.

Before I retired I had my first diesel car - a Citroen C4 with very low emissions and very economical. Since then I have acquired a 1.1 petrol car and it smells of petrol whenever I switch on, oh and it has higher emissions too!

Yes, we were all told diesel was the way to go and then the price started to rocket and finally overtook petrol. Funny how it's so bad for the planet now - a load of nonsense if you ask me!
houn66
17th Feb 2017
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Had a diesel for 10 years. Would willingly change if govt helped towards cost. Far more commercial diesel vehicles on roads than private cars. That is a bigger problem.
Dgill
17th Feb 2017
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Just bought a second hand small diesel to replace my work lease car as no longer qualify for lease car but have 30 mile daily commute by car so want to minimise spend. Diesel is more efficient and with dpf is quite clean
turbox
17th Feb 2017
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Does that mean every truck, van, taxi and bus? Think we're in trouble.....
jeanmark
17th Feb 2017
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Unfortunately it does and yes we are.....
Rgb30e
16th Feb 2017
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Too many contrasting reports, just read one saying these reports are exaggerating the dangers.
Wilf
16th Feb 2017
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We have had Deisels and mostly land rover discoveries they are old but great cars for kids, dogs, rubbish etc. I wish the government would make up its mind. Years ago I worked in London and I must say the air was filthy. I think electric cars will be 90% of all motors on the road in about 25 years so we will look back on these times and will not believe we were breathing in all this horrid smog. Bit like smoking really!
Lionel
15th Feb 2017
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First we're strongly encouraged to ditch petrol cars in favour of diesel - CO2 emissions if I recall correctly. Now we're about to be forced to ditch diesel cars in favour of ... well ... what? Apparently there's to be surcharges on diesel powered vehicles from parking to entry into the cities.

Doesn't anyone else smell a rat here?

Isn't this a case of manipulation of public opinion just as we've seen with Chelsea Tractors a few years ago. I've had two of them, both diesel. Why are we so easily spooked by reports (who employed those who wrote those reports?). It begins to sound like the butter/margarine thing over the last forty years. Now we have an aging population with all manner of diseases which, when truth is told, trace back to margarine.

If we're talking about diesel cars, may we also talk about heavy haulage trucks. I used to be a truck driver. Could use 200 gallons of diesel in nine hours. Often my tractor unit would be in use around the clock. At best that's six hundred gallons of diesel.

Linking 40,000 deaths a year to diesel fumes seems a leap to far. Would the authors of this report supply accurate, attested data? Of course not. Would they debate this claimed figure? Doubtful, unless there was something in it for them.

Fake news, me thinks! Add this to scares about sugar and salt (same people scare mongering), spurious alcohol limits (even the authors admit the figures were plucked out of the air) cholesterol (another scare) oh, I could go on ...

Somebody's on the make here, and it's at our expense!
Marley444
15th Feb 2017
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Some interesting points you make Lionel ... I also heard that there is a reduction in road tax funds due to so many cheaper to tax vehicles on the road, that the money has to come from somewhere, so it's the poor old diesel drivers who will be penalised to make up the shortfall. Nowadays I rarely believe any of the reports published as more often than not there is a complete turnaround in opinions over time. What about all the white courier vans and grocery delivery vans ... they must pose an even bigger problem with omissions and their fleets are expanding by the day!?
Lionel
16th Feb 2017
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Thank you Marley, for the compliment.

I do think this is another attempt to penalise the motorist.

Years ago I was an agency truck driver. Often, when bored with tramping motorways I would ask for a van job in London. On those days which lasted about ten hours, I would burn fifty gallons of diesel. When on seriously heavy haulage, 100 tons plus, my tractor unit would return about three miles per gallon if I soft pedalled it. Every truck you see on the road is at best returning 7mpg.

On a Discovery Channel programme late last year it said the Queen Mary II has diesel engines of 18,000 litres! A truck you would see on the road has between 7 and 10 litres.

If we diesel car drivers are to be penalised yet again, what about heavy haulage, what about the QM II?

This reads to me like another case of soak the motorist. And I for one have had enough!
Wilf
16th Feb 2017
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I do agree ref trucks Lionel and I read that the ships of the world are more polluting than all cars! Seems amazing but they are all diesel (or most) and there are a lot of them
jeanmark
17th Feb 2017
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The problem is Wilf, ships don't tend to go into towns and cities where the problem actually lies.

There is a problem with taxis, lorries act. although many buses now have duel control whereby electric kicks in once in the city but diesel takes over once outside.
hamlyn
17th Feb 2017
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I too own a diesel car which is now twelve years old. The emissions are as clean as a whistle, partly because I maintain and service it properly and because it gets 'driven'. That is because I live in the country with the nearest town ten miles away. Diesels were never intended for town or city driving, they need to be used, like a wagon on the open road, in order for the engine to run at its cleanest. So many non mechanically minded people bought diesels because they were cheaper to run, but they are often abused, not serviced regularly. As a retired Transport Manager and HGV driver, I can assure you that even though most large goods vehicles only average 6-7 mpg, because of the cost of running these wagons, and the legislation, regular servicing and checks are necessary to keep the engine sweet and to maintain the highest possible mpg in order to be commercial.
The problem in cities with all diesel vehicles is the amount of time spent idling, which is when the particulates are at their highest level. Instead of banning all diesel cars, it would be more sensible to bring in particulate emissions tests twice a year and for wagons and buses too. Also ban all diesel cars from cities, that would be a start...
Lionel
17th Feb 2017
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Yes, Hamlyn, this matter is far more complex than I think anyone has realised. What has been released by government, including new vehicle tax rates from April, is ill thought out and really doesn't address the matter on any front. Nothing new there!

I'm a flinty old sceptic where government is concerned, or the State for that matter. They all behave like a Gardner 180 without a crankshaft - going nowhere and doing nothing. Quite unfit for purpose.

Now, just watch the BBC, Sky, CNN and observe the anti-diesel propaganda get ramped up. I seldom watch TV so won't see the circus.

Me, I'm hanging on to my diesel car. It's serviced at the right intervals, regularly hammered and it's 14 years old. Should I add it's a VW derivative?
JohnHerb
15th Feb 2017
1
Thanks for voting!
Never had a diesel and never will. Always stuck with petrol ever though it costs a bit more but diesel fuel has risen in price so its more or less the same
Munsterlander
15th Feb 2017
4
Thanks for voting!
We own a diesel and a petrol car. Deisels used to be old clanking, belching slow machines but in the last 20 years they have come forward leaps and bounds. We were all encouraged to get them at one point as they cause less CO2 but now I keep reading about all these particulates they admit and it seems a bad idea.

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