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Would you like to see cannabis legalised?

In the Liberal Democrat manifesto, there is a proposal to legalise cannabis. 

The document contains a series of controversial pledges, including one to legalise and tax cannabis which is currently a class B drug.

Lib Dems promise to “break the grip of the criminal gangs” by introducing a legal, regulated market for cannabis. Limits would be introduced on potency and cannabis would be sold through licensed outlets to adults aged over 18. Party estimates say the new legal market could contribute £1bn a year to tax revenues. In comparison, tobacco sales raise £12bn in direct tax revenues for the Treasury each year.

The sale and possession of cannabis has been legalised for both recreational and medical use in eight US states so far including Alaska, California, Colorado, Oregon, Massachusetts, Maine, Nevada and Washington. The party says that their limits on potency will take problematic “skunk” off the streets and the shelves.

What do you think? Should cannabis be decriminalised for medical use as well as recreational use? Would the sale of this proposed regulated drug reduce the harmful impact on the health of the users?

Would you like to see cannabis legalised?

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RodH
28th May 2017
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I am of an age where experimentation with illegal substances was the norm, & I admit to dabbling, to my detriment, but a lot of crime nowadays is fueled by the need for drugs, & the legalization with strict controls would slash that overnight.
Don't ask me what the controls would need to be, it is way above my pay grade, I am afraid.
Yodama
30th May 2017
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Wonder how many illegal cannabis plants are grown in backyards throughout the country?
Some with red painted ping pong balls hanging off them, disguised as tomato plants.
Yodama
28th May 2017
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Cigarettes, alcohol, painkillers and prescription drugs, also highly addictive, why has the government and previous governments not criminalised or regulated the use of these ?

Drug lords and criminal gangs are the filthy underbelly of society fuelling death and misery.

Tobacco, Pharmaceutical and Brewery big business is no different except that their drug pushing is legitimised simply because of the power they wield.
biker babe
27th May 2017
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No, its wrong & too much liberalisation damages society
time for change
26th May 2017
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I have seen the results of the use of cannabis when I worked a mental hospital & its not good. These people became dangerous criminals & had committed some appalling acts of barbarity.
When Blair was conning the pothead lobby by hinting he would legalise cannabis this became a source of debate at work.
I asked a social worker if they felt it should be legalised & to my utter horror this is how the conversation went.
yes she felt that it should legalised. So I said 'but what about the victims who have been murdered, maimed & the families having to live with the consequences.
She then said 'its a price worth paying in a free society'!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for medical use which under a controlled environment & I believe that its a certain extraction from the plant then yes otherwise no.
jeanmark
29th May 2017
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I fail to understand why there is a belief that horrendous crime is only committed by people taking cannabis, the subject of this debate. I have seen more horrors related to alcohol than I have ever seen related to 'soft' drugs.
Lionel
26th May 2017
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Time, I too have worked in a high security unit; child murderers who would be sent to Broadmoor or the like at eighteen.

There were eighteen youngsters in this unit, with two adult males on duty. Their records showed they were, each one, high when they butchered their families. Their crimes are too horrific to repeat here. Yet I live with the momory of living with these mass murderers.

That's what hash and other drugs can do; enable one to commit the most horrible of crimes and wake up convinced one is an innocent. No one in that secure institution was guilty in their own eyes. Yet each one was a mass murderer; never to be brought before a court because they were too young.

Drugs? Please, don't anyone ever try to tell me there's virtue in unregulated drug use. There simply is not! As said earlier, I believe there is a case for cannabis for pain relief, but not so called recreational use. What is receational drug use? People blow their heads with drugs and for what?

At sixteen my school required me to attend a funeral, that of a class mate whose brothers had fed him with heroin. He O D'd and died. We buried him. We buried my friend at that young age.

Drugs? No. Over these many years I've seen tne results of drug use. There ain't nothing will convince me legitimising drugs is good for society.

Got an argument with that, anyone?
Wilf
26th May 2017
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I think all drugs should be legalised Lionel. The government could supply pure stuff, monitor addicts and using the tax/profits help them. It would stop all criminality at a stroke!
Lionel
28th May 2017
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Wilf, I know you won't condemn me for disagreeing with you here. We have too long a friendly association for that.

It is my belief man needs a framework of law and convention around him in which to live securely. Indeed, I'd say that is our security. Freeform just breeds increasing amounts of trouble. We operate best as a people when the boundaries are known, respected and observed, and that against the promise of penalties if we infringe them. We then know how to deal with each other.

Liberalisation is fine in theory; God knows enough politicians spout this premise loudly. But in practice?

We've removed boundaries, barriers and age limitations for so many important things in life and yet society deteriorates day by day. That framework which holds a society together is being wilfully dismantled.

Yet, I wonder if UK man is yet sufficiently developed as to resist carnal temptations; turn away from drugs etc., and think of the common good. As I look out on the world tonight, from my rather remote refuge, I don't think so. We are not maturing as a people, no, rather going backwards into barbarity and self abuse.

Thus, I think it is the absolute duty of the State to protect us from ourselves, as far as that may be accomplished. To legalise drug use, in the name of the common good and public purse, seems to me to put a duty of personal responsibility on the shoulders of those now incapable of carrying it.

In fact, my contention would be drug laws must be tightened dramatically and fresh police and other resources recruited to deal with drugs.
Wilf
29th May 2017
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Lionel, I think you are right that people are weak and more people would use drugs if they were legalised but just because of that crime would fall as drug users do not need to steal, mug etc. Also the health services would have all the users on file so they could look after them and drugs would be "pure". I dont think making the laws more draconian works unless we go the Singapore route and start hanging drug pushers!
KarenJ8
24th May 2017
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For pain relief yes
Yodama
19th May 2017
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It is not the plant itself that is the problem, it is the overuse and people profiteering from it that causes misery and crime.

Cannabis gives relief to many especially those on Chemotherapy.
Legalise it.
Regulate its usage by all means.
iestynlad
19th May 2017
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Faulty rationale! what's next legalise crack cocaine and break THOSE criminal gangs? For those needing pain relief make it available on prescription
PatriciaH14
18th May 2017
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My friend has Parkinson's​ and nerve pain, when she has a joint she feels better and more relaxed,it helps with stress and probably other illnesses,and people are not violent when they smoke it, so I think it should be legal
Yodama
20th May 2017
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Your sooooo right duuuuude!
Pass the crackers, i'm hungry.
Billythequiche
18th May 2017
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I cannot believe we are contemplating this! Would we legalise shoplifting because it was difficult to enforce? Then what? Theft? Assault? Pension fraud? We KNOW it causes mental problems. Medical prescriptions for specific illnesses is a subject for debate. Drugs are at the heart of so much crime and grief we should make it much tougher on dealers not legalise it. Can you imagine if one of the international chemical giants had the power of supply?
jeanmark
18th May 2017
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I'm not sure you can compare the use of cannabis with the crimes you have mentioned. However, many of these have been committed under the influence of alcohol which is legal, should we therefore criminalise alcohol as well?

In relation to dealers, I think there is a belief that they will no longer profit from something once it becomes legal.
Pam1960
18th May 2017
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I don't think the problem of dealers will be solved totally by legalising cannabis. As dealing is for making money on a supply and demand basis I should imagine the dealers would look to supply other illegal drugs. There is a big drugs problem in the area where I live. Many of my sons friends started smoking cannabis in their teens and graduated onto cocaine and in some cases heroin. Fortunately my sons were heavily into sport and did not succumb to peer pressure others have become addicted and are now on a downward spiral. Many of these young people come from so called good backgrounds but drugs will bring people down tk the basest level. Cannabis should be available on prescription only
Jo Kingham
18th May 2017
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Cannabis should be legalised for medical reasons for sure. It's been proven to help with so many conditions so why wouldn't you use it?
Baxi
18th May 2017
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I think legalising cannabis is a very sensible way to go forward.

At the moment people take stuff and they don't really know what's in it.

There is also a lot of ignorance about the addictive aspects of cannabis. I read an interesting article in the Economist years ago which was about research which had identified that certain people have a gene which makes them susceptible to paranoia from cannabis. In other words it doesn't agree with some people and can make them mentally ill.

Legalising the drug will also enable the government to raise taxes on it and regulate the quality of the drug.
Pam1960
17th May 2017
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No I wouldn't like it to be legalised and therefore more readily available. Can you imagine children turning up to school stoned. Just the same as children manage to get their hands on cigarettes it will be exactly the same with cannabis. I believe it should be available on prescription for those who need it for pain relief. We may look at other nations and think legalisation works fine however Britain is a nation of bingers and over excess. Most countries can drink alcohol without the weekend binge. I don't think we would be able to handle cannabis in moderation
Lionel
17th May 2017
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Yes, Pam, I completely agree with legalising cannabis for it's therapeutic properties, in other words, on prescription.

In the later part of my working life I care for a lot of MS patients in their own homes. We knew then cannabis could relieve their pain and distress but that great taboo, it was illegal. Some of my patients had sources of their own and I encouraged them to use it, without doing so myself. It is most beneficial in MS and Motorneurone disease.

But the stipulation here is, it must be prescription only.
JohnHerb
17th May 2017
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Yes its about high time and if the government regulate it it should mean that it is a "sensible" product that is not going to damage peoples health-well not in the short term. I think the government should legalise all drugs and also sell them. It would stop a huge amount of criminal activity and the drugs would be "pure" plus it would help addicts and let them come out into the open. the current situation of criminalising all drugs has failed miserably.
Lionel
17th May 2017
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Well, JohnHerb, I think this may be a first. I disagree with you.

The State generally legalises and regulates that which it cannot control or eradicate. Back in '65 Harold Wilson proposed draconian drug legislation but it didn't get as far as the Commons. His slender majority of I think 2 didn't ensure the legislation would pass into Law. In addition to which, as we found out later, he was planning a very early General Election, so his popularity was vital to him.

Since then drug use has spiralled out of control. I doubt legalising cannabis would directly affect the widespread use of 'legal highs,' which seemed to have surpassed cannabis as a drug of choice. So, it's a case of shutting the door after the horse has bolted.

JohnHerb, I do understand your point. Yet, if the State were to legalise cannabis, and regulate its sale, then would it not be hypocritical of them to continue the restrictions on tobacco and the very high duties applied to it.

Just as a foot note: in 1969 the then Liberal Leader David Steele negotiated a Bill through Parliament legalising homosexual acts between consenting adults over 21 years of age. Almost fifty years on, look where that's got us. Only weeks ago my fifteen year old step grandson told me it's OK to be gay. Oh, my. His generation is a Proctologist's dream. Full employment for many generations yet to come.

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