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Is now the right time to hold a snap General Election?

UK Prime Minister Theresa May has announced plans to call a snap general election on 8 June.

She said Britain needed certainty, stability and strong leadership following the EU referendum.

Explaining the decision, Mrs May said: “The country is coming together but Westminster is not.”

There will be a Commons vote on the proposed election on Wednesday – she will need Parliament’s backing to hold a vote before 2020.

Explaining her change of heart on an early election, Mrs May said: “I have concluded the only way to guarantee certainty and security for years ahead is to hold this election.”

Mrs May accused the other political parties of “game playing”, adding that this risks “our ability to make a success of Brexit and it will cause damaging uncertainty and instability to the country”.

“So we need a general election and we need one now. We have at this moment a one off chance to get this done.”

What are your views? Do you back this proposal? Will the outcome help with the process of Brexit? Do you know how you will vote? 

Is now the right time to hold a snap General Election?

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Roof Top Crow
1 hours ago
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The Brexit process is the most complex legislative challenge that the UK has embarked upon in the last 70 years. It will take six or possibly ten years to complete the legal separation.

No one knows if Brexit will be good or bad for Britain. The reality that both the leavers and the remainers face is that there is no more information than we have at the moment. It is not being hidden or dithered over, there is just no more information to be had.

The vote last June has not left society divided or floundering. But what it has done is leave our long established and successful society in limbo. No one can now forecast the future of the country or their own personal future.

Our Prime Minister was not successful as Home Secretary. The problem has always been the same, she is stubborn and self-opinionated. Our Prime Minister finds it very difficult to listen to other points of view and finds it difficult to accept that other people are better informed. The greatest weakness she has is that she cannot listen to alternative opinions and accept that they are better or make more sense than her own opinions.

We need a Prime Minister with the type of intellect that can listen to advise from parliament and government and listen to the opinions of the leaders of the other 27 countries. Theresa May does not have this type of intellect.

The Prime Minister called this election to try and ensure that she does not have to listen to the opinions of her government, listen to the opinions of our elected parliament, listen to opinions from her legal advisors or listen to any other part of society.
Yodama
4 hours ago
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No more dithering! A snap election will eliminate the doubts about Theresa May and put her firmly in charge ( if she wins).

An injection of positivity is what is needed now. we are a divided nation, floundering through lack of information and direction, everyone second guessing everyone else.
She seems to have the right stuff or Cajunas to take the country by the scruff of the neck and lead us to an outcome which hopefully will benefit Great Britain.
This drama in the 'Theatre of life' needs a good stage manager.
MartinS6
10 hours ago
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We need a booming industrious and harmonious Country and to do that we need to take back control of our money supply. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH2S5iWU-Vg
iestynlad
21 hours ago
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Isn't lack of dress sense the whole point of Corbyn? So not a faux pas more a pas delibere!
Lionel
1 days ago
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Considering Corbyn's alarmingly defeatist performance on The Marr Show yesterday, and Theresa May saying up front the triple lock will be removed from pensions and that elephant in the room - Foreign Aid Budget - will remain at .07% of GDP I'm wondering if either of them want No. 10.

Is Brexit a poison chalice too far?
Roof Top Crow
22 hours ago
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The problem with Andrew Marr is that he interrupts continuously. He is only interested in getting his very narrowly focused questions answered.

At this stage in the election, he should be trying to get his guests to talk very broadly about what they think will be best for society.

Scotland. What did you think of the Corbyn presentation today?
scandiman
1 days ago
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Will someone PLEASE teach Corbyn some dress sense. On Andrew Marr programme today, wearing black shoes with a blue suit and BROWN socks.
Yodama
1 days ago
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Perhaps attention to detail is not his thing, glad he was not wearing his leather 'workers' cap!
Maybe absent minded professor syndrome showing true genius, maybe misdirection hoping everyone was mesmerised enough by his socks to miss what he was actually saying.
Or maybe a complete lack of vanity.
Wilf
1 days ago
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Yes i noticed that! Unbelievable why wouldn't he wear black socks what a faux pa!
KitB
2 days ago
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MartinS6
2 days ago
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A general election cannot be about a single issue, the focus/duty of the UK Government should be maintaining the United Kingdom as a whole and our national identity as British! Anything else, including the opinion of 1/4 of the population who voted to leave, while being duly respected, must come second to that primary concern!
PatrickH
2 days ago
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The Tory expenses problem should be sorted out first by the police before the election can run.

Fraud committed by our 'leaders'!!

Not setting a good example to us Plebs!!
jimt43
3 days ago
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I voted Remain but accept that the outcome was to Leave and therefore feel we should get on with it and make the best of Brexit. Their seems to be so many remainers who are unwilling to accept the the democratic will of the people that we clearly need this election to give the Prime Minister a strong mandate to press on with it and get the best deal for the UK.
SharonB9
3 days ago
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My fantasy is for Nicola sturgeon to elope with Jeremy Corbin and be given a free one way ticket to the moon on the first civilian shuttle.
KitB
2 days ago
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That's the best idea I've heard for a long time. Vote S.N P.
kanga
2 days ago
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That would be wonderful.
longbow
3 days ago
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The Prime Minister needs a clear mandate from the Nation to strengthen her position when in negotiation with the EU.
those who seem hell bent on trying to bring about another referendum on whether we should stay or go, should get behind whatever government we get to ensure they can make it a success. What sort of society do we have now whereby if you come second, you demand a second running until presumably you win. Time to grow up accept the result and get behind the government wholeheartedly.
LinG
1 days ago
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I totally agree. It's been decided. Move on
Lionel
3 days ago
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Yodama
2 days ago
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Agree wholeheartedly longbow.
shortyshah
4 days ago
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elections elections and more elections.,think it is more important to run the country than run away from it.
SharonB9
3 days ago
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Quite the opposite, this is a calculated move to remain longer in government and to have her own mandate from the country to do so. With three years left to run, if Brexit is not finalised within two years we could end up with a general election at that point, which would be disastrous. Now is the time. Mrs May is a strong leader, a tough negotiator who wants to finish the job and continue to make our country stronger after Brexit.
Berry
4 days ago
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Any opportunity to get rid of this punitive government is valid.
We are the fifth richest country in the world and yet our streets are littered with the homeless, food banks exist to prop up families living hand to mouth and the young have had their future choices curtailed.
How do I know this?
I volunteer for Citizens Advice and we've never been so busy.
Carol27
4 days ago
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I also volunteer for the CAB, have done for 25 years. Until 5 years ago, in an inner city bureau, we rarely if ever had someone in who needed food because even the very poor managed to feed themselves and if they were desperate we had a Salvation Army that would provide a food parcel.

Today, there are people out on the street outside our local food bank, smoking or using mobile phones, paid for with the money they would have spent on food. Our food bank put a letter in the local paper saying that they did not need any more basic ingredients e.g. baked beans or corn flakes but required more specialist items and gave a list!

Many of the comments on here talk about central government money for schools, nhs or the elderly but central government has no money only what they collect from us in taxes, they just decide how to spend it. Would you like our taxes to climb? probably the answer is, if they are rich but again the top 10% of earners pay 60% of the taxes in this country, is that fair?

Have you been to your local hospital recently, maybe with a splinter? as someone did here. I attended Outpatients at the end of March, the service was excellent but I attended, unlike the 281 people who did not arrive for their appointments that month.

To generate a better world we all have to take responsibility.
Goodwinsands
4 days ago
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We need to endorse the strong leadership of a woman full of virtue and character, like Theresa May, as were Margaret Thatcher, Mrs.Gandhi of India, Mrs.Bandaranaike of Sri Lanka, (or Sir Winston Churchill, succeeded by Margaret Thatcher and Theresa May).
PhilipM
2 days ago
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Margaret Thatcher, Mrs. Gandhi & Mrs Bandaranaike all had wars, Thatcher also created division within the U.K. over Poll Tax, and privatisation of utilities, which in principle was a good idea, to let the people control their own utilities. Remberer 'Sid ring home' for British Gas ?

BUT not when German, French, Italian & Spanish own them all now, You try to buy shares in any E.U. utility (other than U.K.) you will have no chance they are all seen by their Governments as STRATEGIC to the Country. I wonder why the German/French do not build our warships, tanks etc.. then lease them to us, a bit like the new hospitals are all leased to,now, foreign finance companies, here in Bristol our new local hospital (Southmead) pays a German/American company £50 million a year in rent by 2020 it will increase to £60 million a year. By 2045, when the lease expires, it is estimated the annual lease will be £130 million a year.
So much for PFI within the NHS, brought in by Gordon Brown, when he was Chancellor.

In my humble opinion the electorate should do what happened in the referendum, Vote for the minority parties and get rid of all the Conservatives, Liberal and Labour. That would teach them.
jane63c
4 days ago
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A man walks into a bar & demands free universal health care, affordable housing, full employment, decent working conditions & decent wages for all, investment in social care, mental health and green energy, a commitment to human rights, that we stop selling arms to Saudi Arabia and work toward peace in the Middle East, investment in national education and an end to grammar schools, the end of privatisation and the renationalisation of rail services and energy providers, that grotesque inequality, homelessness and reliance on foodbanks are all dramatically reduced, that we stop just locking up poor and mentally ill people in prisons that are not fit for purpose and instead give them the support and opportunities they need to thrive, free school meals for young children, more help with childcare, better funded and supported public and emergency services, equal pay for men and women, more support for small and medium sized businesses and a crackdown on tax avoidance and evasion which would more than fund everything he wants, but will vote Tory as he 'doesn't like' Corbyn.
PhilipM
4 days ago
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Fantastic ideals in a fantasy World, but where does all the money required to fund all these ideal come from ? Perhaps we could afford some of the issues if we (as a Country stopped giving foreign aid to Pakistan, India & China (as they are able afford Nuclear missiles, as well as a space programme); for a start, plus any of the other despot regimes, especially those in Africa. But then that would upset the lefties & Liberals of this Country.
littlenanny
4 days ago
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- We have voted to exit the EU and those mps, media experts and those who think they know better are doing all they can to thwart this. We need strong leadership and get on with it without the constant back biting of those remainers.
Chanel55
3 days ago
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I recently saw a post on mumsnet describing people who voted for brexit as 'backward citizens of nowhere'. We do need strong leadership & push forward with the wishes of the people who voted to leave. I am so fed up with the remoaners trying to thwart the government at every turn.
Wal
4 days ago
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The country needs strong leadership, her record speaks for its self
PhilipM
4 days ago
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Good Morning bornardinho
You are right, of course we may get a one party state, like we had when Blair had his landslide and where did that get us,
WAR,
TERRORISM,
MASS IMMIGRATION,
HOUSING CRISES,
P.F.I., WITHIN THE N.H.S.
ACADEMY SCHOOLS WITH NO LOCAL AUTHORITY CONTROL .

Oh and no money left when the 'new Labour' left office.
bornardinho
4 days ago
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You're right, Blair probably did more damage than May, but given time I think she'll outdo him. I tend to agree with your comment below regarding widespread corruption amongst the powerful.
I think if I had power I'd probably abuse it and become corrupt, like most people.
PhilipM
4 days ago
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I can find no 'Edit' button so I am re-commenting, just to make a bit of sence of what I wrote
Coming from a family of 2 M.Ps. one of whom was made a life peer by Wilson, I think I can speak with some experience in the field of M.Ps.
I now live in Bristol and we have an election on May 4th for a 'Metro Mayor' the candidates are made up of all the parties, including one failed (Liberal) M.P. (whom when he was an M.P. he claimed £400 a month, every month for 10 years for food, even when the House was not in session, he was not the only one I know). But, he failed to answer the point when asked - what did he spend his vast salary on, if not food, travel, and household expenses, it is the same for the vast majority of them.
So things do not change for M.Ps. since the days of my Uncles they are ALL, with out exception scheming, lying, and in it for their own financial ends.
When my uncle Ben was in the Lords he took the train to London (Mon - Thurs) taxi to the House, signed in and was back in Manchester for 2pm (just in time for the Bookies) for that he, in those days, received £85 per day and travel warrants for 1st class travel plus all his travel costs plus those of communication (Telephone and Post) as well as his home rates and water & electricity - they are all crooks, by other name.
So Mrs May calling the election now, and catching out all the other political parties is just a ruse to get her time extended - now if the electorate could work together, like M.P.s and vote against the main parties and put in power the fringe parties - then we may see some radical changes imagine if all the cabinet and shadow cabinet lost their seats ?
PhilipM
4 days ago
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Coming from a family of 2 M.Ps. one of whom was made a life peer by Wilson, I think I can speak with some experience in the field of M.Ps.
I now live in Bristol and we have an election on May 4th for a 'Metro Mayor' the candidates are made up of all the parties, including one failed (Liberal) M.P. (whom when he was an M.P. he claimed £400 for food, even when the House was not in session, he was not the only one I know). But, he failed to answer the point when asked - what did he spend his vast salary on, if not food, travel, and household expenses, it is the same for the vast majority of them.
So things do not change for M.Ps. since the days of my Uncles they are ALL, with out exceptions scheming, lying, and in it for their own financial ends.
So Mrs May calling the election now, and catching out all the other political parties is just a ruse to get her time extended - now if the electorate could work together, like M.P.s and vote against the main parties and put in power the fringe parties - then we may see some radical changes imagine if all the cabinet and shadow cabinet lost their seats ?
bornardinho
4 days ago
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This election will be rather like Erdogan's recent referendum win. The creation of a one-party state.
Then the government can govern, without interference. Control of the media and judiciary comes next.
Keep the majority poor and uneducated. Bring back workhouses. No more immigrants. No more new ideas, we have enough already. Church on Sundays. Cricket. Pints of beer. Sunday roasts. Tradition. Isolationist nationalism.
Hurrah for Queen May!
Yodama
1 days ago
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A fantastic dystopian future to look forward to, dumbed down masses, newspeak, police state, hurrah for 1984.
AndrewD
4 days ago
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Here we go again, saw a Party Political Broadcast last night, all the same project fear comments were highlighted but none of the positives that have been accomplished. The people who claim not to have realised how it would affect the "Single" market should have realised the EEC, the majority at the time voted for, no longer exists.
Let us just get on with it!
MartinS6
10 hours ago
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What will change Andrew as the underlying state of the economy, in or out of Europe is based upon money supply controlled by the banks. If we truely value soverignty we must take control of our cashflow otherwise it doesn't really matter who you vote for, the system remains the same.
scandiman
5 days ago
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Labour have repeatedly wrecked the economy, so it is left to the next Tory government to sort it out. Then they are accused of being uncaring. Unfortunately, Labour still don't understand that you can't live outside your means. The Tories on the other hand, seem not to know much about the lives of ordinary people. All politicians need to get out of the Westminster bubble and spend time among the electorate.
For decades politicians have dithered over every aspect of our lives, from education, defence, law and order, transport and health. With Brexit, the end of UK 'as we know it', to quote JaneW58, may be a good thing. The state we're in now is due to decades of mis-management by all political parties, and EU interference. Time for radical change, but not the Corbyn variety, heaven forbid.
Lionel
4 days ago
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So well said, Scandiman, I couldn't agree more. Change is upon us, whether we like it or not. That's partly why I voted for Brexit.
Lionel
4 days ago
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I've just been informed by a member in this debate Corbyn is a democratic socialist.

I'll poll my friends in Central Europe. There's going to be more experiential truth there.
Lionel
4 days ago
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Apparently my friends in Central Europe don't recognise the breed.

Well, they would know, wouldn't they?
JaneW58
5 days ago
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Great opportunity to get rid of the self serving Tories and restore some balance.
Listen to Jeremy Corbyn and his policies you just cannot disagree if you have one ounce of compassion.
To keep the NHS, restore education and higher education for all regardless of background just listen to the man ....
Brexit under the Tories will be the end of the UK as we know it
fanny71
4 days ago
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How will we pay for this utopia
scandiman
4 days ago
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This is the J.Corbyn who was educated at preparatory school, then independent school, but doesn't want this for the rest of us. The same J.Corbyn who invited Gerry Adams to the Palace of Westminster shortly after the Brighton bombing. The same J.Corbyn who would have our submarines on patrol without missiles.
SharonB9
3 days ago
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Thank you scandiman for high lighting Mr Corbins intent to have our submarines patrolling without missiles. Scarery !
Lionel
4 days ago
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As a former farm stockman I know only too well what comes out of the end of cattle. Shifted tons of it.

When I left farming I had thought that was at an end. But, sadly, no. There's more of that stuff in Westminster than ever there was on a farm.
Lionel
4 days ago
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The UK as we have known it is ended. The world moved on whilst we were embroiled in an horrid cartel of protectionism and stagnation otherwise known as the EU. They promised safety, security and trade within the womb like structure which was the EU. But Brussels couldn't deliver the goods. The UK fell behind the rest of the world and now the massive effort before us is to face the trading world, raise our game so we may not just compete but dominate. And we can do it!

Corbyn's policies - so badly articulated in the press and on TV - are an anachronism. He clearly wants the UK to fall backwards into an abyss of communism dressed as socialism. In my lifetime we've had Attlee, Wilson, Callaghan and Blair (forget Brown, oh, please forget him). All but the first were utter disasters for this nation. It's worth remembering, as I can, socialists are heavy on rhetoric and light on delivery.

Now, let it not be said I'm a Tory for I am not a dyed in the wool anything. I vote in what I perceive are the best interests of my family.

But in this time, if we want the NHS we must be prepared to pay for it - higher NI. If we want better elder care, similarly, pay for it. Now, education ...

If you may convince me mass higher education is of benefit to the nation, or indeed the people coming out of it, then I might just one day vote socialist. But don't hold your breath. We have about a third of the shop assistants in our local Co-op who have degrees. They're filling shelves, selling cooked meats etc. Is that value for tax payers?

I have a first in Geology from London. Never been in geology, but ... I paid my way through university by working at night. Therefore I owe the tax payer nothing. Therefore I'm not under obligation to the tax payer. But what about the shop girl who has a degree in biology and needed to work in our Co-op for five years because the jobs aren't there? What about the girl on the cold meat counter who speaks five languages - three of which I speak also - and she can't find work? Mass education needs a major overhaul because it serves only the educators. 'Educashun, educashun, educashun.' Blair in Moscow if I remember rightly. Speak a lie loudly enough, speak a lie loudly enough ... Adolph Hitler.

You speak of compassion. Believe me, I have every ounce of compassion for these youngsters I know. Sold a lie. Work hard in school, strive in university and you'll get the job of your dreams. It's a lie. A damnable Blair lie. Tell me I'm wrong.

If this thread is to devolve into a party political argument I'll take it head on but it could get difficult, because, as said, I'm not a party anything.
Wilf
4 days ago
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Very interesting point you make Lionel that the world has moved on from the 80s, 90s, early 2000s politically. Technology has done it. the internet makes a world in which there is total transparency and the flow of information is so rapid humans cannot keep up---look at the debacle on the United Airlines flight a week ago!...or the fact that Donald Trump has been tweeting a carrier fleet was 200 miles from North Korea but in fact it was 3500 miles away in the Southern Indian Ocean? How is a chap like Corbyn supposed to keep up with this torrent of information, feedback and change. Can you imagine Michael Foot or John Major nowadays. John Major was windbaggin about the how we should keep in the EU a few weeks ago. It was forgotten the next morning-why-we are onto the next news story!..
Lionel
4 days ago
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Exactly Wilf. Let it be said, I don't like this information super highway as Bill Gates termed it a couple of decades ago. But let it be said also he is the major beneficiary of this highway we now have. He created the monster and we must live with it. There's no going back from here.

As I write Corbyn is on TV, in a recording, spouting off about the same things Michael Foot spoke about thirty five years ago. But even then he was speaking of times gone by. Yes, I have a fondness for the days of my youth when, you might agree, living was so much simpler. Days when yes meant yes and no meant no. Privately I still live in that world but outside my home it's very different.

In our youth a place at university was earned by academic excellence. From graduation the world was one's oyster. My heart was in rural life and farming; I know from earlier posts on SS you too climbed a slippery slope to achieve excellence in what you did. But we did this without the internet and without the help of politicians. I've recently argued elsewhere on SS my chosen path, agriculture, cannot be learned at college but only by hands on experience. University is useless in that profession. Yet still the state funds places at agricultural college!

My case is, I think we must get some reality here. When a shop girl speaks five languages fluently, three of them I can attest to, then the system is broken. This system is a socialist system which begs the question - why consider the Trotskyite Corbin to deliver more of the same which this country neither needs nor may afford? I ask, is a mid twenties shop girl working on the deli counter need to speak Koine Greek, Hebrew, a range of Slavic languages as well as good English gainfully employed.

Educashun, educashun, educashun. Yes, but for what purpose? What benefit is it to the nation?
Wilf
4 days ago
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I saw Corbyn on the news Lionel but what on earth is he on about? People over power...so let me take myself-I grew up very poor but worked hard and managed to get a decent home...does he want me to move back to become as poor as I was? the problem with him is he wants to stifle people working hard and making money..put simply we should all be the same. i think he should be in St Petersburg back in 1917...not London in 2017....and look where all that ended up! No this is 2017...robots are on their way--its pointless holding back new developments and he is unfortunately one of the dinosaurs like Labour who are facing mass extinction!
GrahamH15
5 days ago
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If getting out of the European Union and then remaining out of it is her objective then maybe that would have been better served by getting on with it and waiting until 2020? Just my hunch, I could be wrong?
SharonB9
3 days ago
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This was an extremely calculated move on her part. There is no doubt in my mind she is determined to take us through the Brexit challenge to success and wishes to be in office long enough to nurture that success. Corbin is weak and so I hope this move pays off for her. If the SNP looses out in Scotland she would have killed two birds with one stone ! Very clever if you ask me.
Rosie123
5 days ago
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To ensure a clear mandate for Brexit
DaveP007
5 days ago
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It's important, to hopefully ensure that the Country can move forward, in particular with Brexit.
I've seen a lot of negative comment on your FB page regarding the Government and the NHS, but if people want the NHS to be there for them, then look not to the Government, but YOURSELVES.
Everyone who uses Silversurfers, should understand totally, how the Service was originally envisioned, where people were expected to live no longer than 70 years. They are regularly now living to 90 years of age and many of those, paid very little in National Insurance. Add to that, the flagrant abuse of something that is there primarily for medical care, not to cope with drug and other substance abuse and a population with an inability to put on a plaster.
We had to use the NHS recently for an emergency situation and it was impeccable. The staff were exemplary and we have nothing but admiration and appreciation for their efforts.
That however, was tempered by the ignorance and abuse we saw, with people treating it like a hotel, with added benefits, people getting to hospital by ambulance, when they can walk and staff exasperated at dealing with people, who see it as a one-stop shop for all their health matters, even a runny nose (yes a runny nose)... unbelievable.
The NHS is wonderful, let's work to stop the abuse and get people to look after themselves properly, with the right education.
Lionel
5 days ago
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Well said, DaveP. I saw similar things late at night when rushing my wife to A & E, for a very valid and genuine reason! Didn't bother with calling an ambulance - it's nearly twenty miles to the hospital and I could be there before an ambulance could reach us. Bit of a hairy drive, I must admit.
WilliamG7
6 days ago
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I think she had every right to call a general election seeing the small majority she has. Just think 2 or 3 years of hard slog for brexit -- get it all tied up & along comes some idiot in the house trying to get the upper hand -- votes against it wins the vote --all that work for nothing and has to start again. For the sake of us all --lets get it done & dusted.
FrancineS
6 days ago
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Agree with the decision we all need to back her so we will be stronger in dealing with Brexit
Lionel
6 days ago
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Parliament has just voted 522 to 13 to suspend the Fixed Term Parliament Act.

The Prime Minister is on a roll. But whether the public want her on a roll or just to get Britain out of the EU safely is another matter.

Today it seems likely the Tories will get a thumping majority, up to 100 seats some newspapers claim. However, these huge majorities always come with extreme party policies, ideas which would have been dismissed as too extreme if the Party's majority was slender.

So we may expect the Tories to shave off some of our state pensions, further attack the sick and disabled as being unworthy of reasonable financial support, and almost certainly we'll see a full roll out of that dubious Welfare legislation, Universal Credit.

Batten down the hatches. Waters are about to get very choppy, is May gets a big majority.
Wilf
6 days ago
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Its very bad to have a weak opposition as you rightly point out Lionel. We need a balance. Labour really need to get rid of jeremy and get a decent leader....but who???
JaneW58
5 days ago
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Decent leader ......you will not find a more decent man and politician try listening to him not the biased media
Wilf
5 days ago
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I agree he sounds a decent fellow unfortunately even his own party doubt he is a good leader!
Lionel
5 days ago
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We have an adverserial style of government. The party in power and the party wanting power. In the Commons they vie with one another to get public attention and score points. But where the numbers are hideously out of balance, as in the first and second Balir governments, then anything may happen, and it's mostly not in the public interest. No! It's then party politics, in extremis. A demolition job on the Opposition at the public's expense.

From no particular side of the party fence Corbyn is an old fashioned Trotskyite; a neo Communist more at home in Moscow than Westminster. But even Moscow has moved on from those days of seventy years ago which, sadly, leaves Jeremy out in the cold. I refer to John le Carre's early novel The Spy Who Came In From The Cold. Moscow wouldn't now own him and he has no place in Westminster, well, in this current climate.

Who follows him? Well, Wilf, I'm stumped. I look at the party hopefuls who are mostly Blairites and non-runners, and find ... no one who could lead Her Majesty's Opposition. Frankly, Wilf, I don't know what Labour are going to do. The likliest proposition for me is to split and sideline the Commies. But I don't know.

But isn't this not knowing playing into Theresa may's hands? A weak, unprepared opposition, ill funded, and she's called a General Election! You've got to praise her, she's wrong footed us all.

For me, this all plays into her hands and none of us may like the outcome. I'd prefer a more slender majority so she needs to fight for anything contentious. It's a little like a protectionist policy for us.
Wilf
5 days ago
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You are right about Corbyn Lionel even the Russians have walked away from communism. Total fiasco. They love the capitalist life look at all the millionaires over there. Corbyn is in a time warp and his chancellor (cannot even remember his name) I think Corbyn is a decent chap but weak and not cute enough for the cut and thrust of Westminster. Mind you it would defeat most of us. Can you image him up against Maggie she would eat him for Breakfast. Mind you she did most of them!
SharonB9
3 days ago
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Have you watched Primeminister's question time. Theresa does a generally good job of putting a lid on him as soon as all the nonsense spills out of his mouth.
Lionel
5 days ago
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Wilf, I don't think Corbyn will get much traction by banging on about worker's rights, an inclusive society and feminism. These are concepts from a time now passed. They have been circumvented by employers offering only zero hours contracts and largely ignoring feminist demands for equal pay. As for an inclusive society, well, it cannot ever be.

So yes, Corbyn and his shadow chancellor (I can't remember his name either!) are in a time warp. Actually, to be precise, they are history.

I think it was Kinnock who, after losing either the '83 or '87 election said, well now, to the working man who has a car for every family member, his own substantial house, three holidays abroad each year, a good pension pot and kids at university ... how does Labour say to him, We will improve your lot? I have paraphrased, Wilf, but the sense remains.

That statement says to me Labour has run it's course. It has served it's purpose, to improve the lot of the working man. But that statement was made in the eighties.

Corbyn's attempts to make this a Socialist country are futile. It is not Socialist and never has been. Indeed, in many ways, Socialist governments have been bad for the average person like me. As I've heard Corbyn being interviewed the line between Communist and Socialist is somewhat blurred. That's a dangerous obscuration.

As said elsewhere on SS, my mother's family are of Polish Jewish origin - we came over here around 1840, so my heart is in that part of the world. I've been there many times and seen just what communism dressed as socialism looks like. It has it's advantages but oh so many disadvantages.

Blair realised he could not sell the British people a socialist reality. No, he sucked up to capitalists and dressed up their needs as middle ground socialism. That has failed. Lies always fail.

Theresa May is a formidable opponent at the Dispatch Box - and yes, Corbyn is no match for her. Thus, I feel there will be a political earthquake anytime after the GE. A new party will form. We will see what they offer. But if it's socialism it's doomed to fail.
JaneW58
5 days ago
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Corbyn is a democratic socialist look it up
RonB9
6 days ago
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We need a strong government to vote through the Brexit terms. Otherwise I can see the Looney Lib Dems still saying they did not know about leaving the Single Market. The Lords trying to relive their youth by feeling important and delaying events. If Tories get a good majority it will give them the bargaining strength, as some EU Countries believe will will not leave. All that is left is to rid ourselves of the SNP and unfortunately Scotland. Like a wet blanket in Parliament. Lib Dems as usual will benefit from what others do wrong, nothing to do with their promises. Unfortunately the biggest problem is the Media, they want ' Political Game shows' - saves them spending money on producing their own and better than re-runs.
patcaf
6 days ago
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I agree Mrs. May had to go to the country in order to get a five year mandate and this is the right time. However it is still a risk. Despite the media storm over Mr Corbyn , Labour still have a great deal of support in the UK and could surprise everyone with a strong come back. As a conservative voter I think they will win but I am not convinced they will have the kind of majority they are hoping for.
CarolynH7
6 days ago
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I no longer vote Conservative, what they have done to UK disabled is shocking, I volunteer at a food bank and the stories we hear make me so angry, it's as if low wage earners are no bodies, no help, no future, it is true to say though that we have no ulternative party to vote for, so shall I vote Green ?
Rosie123
5 days ago
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It's not the conservatives who take away...it's a nation who really thinks that there is a bottomless pit of money for everything!
RonB9
6 days ago
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Get a postal vote, then throw it in the waste bin. It is about the same as voting Green. You make everything appear so bad. Go to the Airports and watch thousands going on holidays. Shops are full and I have yet to trip over someone lying in the gutter. Or better still go live abroad, you will soon discover how lucky we are in this Country
Wilf
6 days ago
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Agreed we are so lucky to live in the UK. Its a fantastic place to live and most people are very friendly and look after each other. Just need to change the weather a bit!
ecarg
6 days ago
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She who dares wins.
Unfortunately there's no creditable alternative.
So there's no May or May not.
Theresa will be here to stay.

Lets hope there's more honesty in the election policies and media coverage than there was over Brexit. but in reality I know we will continue to get halve truths and fantasy stories.

However I do agree that by being an elected Prime Minister this will strengthen her hand in the Brexit deals.
Lionel
6 days ago
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As a political sleight of hand this is superb. In fact it's almost Churchillian.

Theresa May has successfully wrong footed Corbyn - funds are too small for a General Election - Ukip are in complete disarray and seemingly with out even day to day funding and LibDems have Farron as their leader with theit only other media voice the person who reduced their MP numbers by 90%. Oh, and the Scots Nats, I should mention them to be fair, could well be utterly demolished in the hustings since they don't any longer carry with them the consent of their people people a fresh referendum.

If Theresa May gets a substantial majoirty, her own majority, she will have greater standing with UE bureaucrats; it could mean she'll yet dictate Brexit terms.

I'm not a political animal but rather a watcher of politics. But even as a watcher I've got to say, this is a brilliant strategic move. I'm not a Tory but yet can give May all credit for since a comprehensive pincer movement. Rommel would be pleased with her!
Wilf
6 days ago
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Very clever and Mrs May has done it when Labour is at its weakest with Corbyn. Also looks like the liberals could be taking a lot of seats as they have already said they want a soft Brexit and many who voted for staying in the EU (48% of the UK!) may tactically vote for the Libs. Think Corbyn era will be over when the election finishes. Not sure who else they have got though? Bring back Ed Balls? mmm maybe not!
Diny
6 days ago
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Hope the media and BBC let the people make their mind up without comments from silly reporters. We don't need BBC point of view.
JoeH
6 days ago
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Now is the time to get together and rid this Country of a Mayhem driven vicious, authoritarian Government who think that they get can get away with murder!!!
JohnHerb
6 days ago
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I am a Labour supporter but unfortunately we are in a state now and Jeremy is a hopeless leader. We will never win with him in charge
Birdseyepeas
4 days ago
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So true John. In my 65 years I have never or even contemplated voting Tory , usually Labour and once Libdem. This time I am in a total dilemma as I cannot support Corbyn or imagine him in any role of statesman. His policies revealed so far will totally bankrupt the country. We need to get brexit done and dusted and get the country on the up again but labour is not the party to do it with Corbyn in charge. Will probably not decide where to put my X until I walk into that booth on June 8.
ElaineL3
6 days ago
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They are all liers so choose the least problamatic route
macawparrot66
6 days ago
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The country needs an elected Prime Minister ,as Mrs May inherited this roll from Mr Cameron . Also this will stop the detractors .She is a strong and positive lady I'm sure she will win .
BridgetR
6 days ago
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Theresa May is in the most difficult position a PM has been in for many, many years and is showing herself to be a good, strong leader......just what the country needs!
TerryA7
6 days ago
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At least it will shut the remoaners up,
JohnHerb
6 days ago
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True-The great British Public voted for Bexit we need to get on with it
cappers24
6 days ago
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I think she is perfectly in order calling the election . She needs the backing of the British public with an increased majority to show the Eu we are not in a weak negotiating position . Well done Theresa .
Pam1960
18th Apr 2017
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As it will all be about Brexit it will just reinforce how divided we are as a nation
BrendaG9
18th Apr 2017
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Yes I think it is right,although not looking forward to the media going on about it all the time.She needs the mandate to strengthen her position for the future negotiations.Hopefully the other EU leaders might show her more respect.
It may be the right time for Mrs Mays party to hold and election especially with Labour so weak and almost non existent in Scotland, but we the people have endured 2 years of debates, discussions, bickering and more fake news than I think anyone can stand the though of it starting again truly worries me we already have a nation fighting amongst themselves thanks to all the media coverage and here we go again over the next 2 months ......
JeanL2
18th Apr 2017
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She thinks she will win hands down . So us oldies must make vote count so the young people have a chance of a better life . And don't forget she can not take any more money off the young or the sick , so she will now take it of the elderly , and I for one is not a rich pensioner . And for some one who began work at 15 and retired at 64 I don't get much to live on
Billythequiche
18th Apr 2017
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I, like you, worked from 15 to 65 and because I paid into a pension cannot claim any benefits; and I pay tax. I do not think that things will get worse if the PM wins. Do not underestimate the power of the ''grey pound'', as the percentage of us ''seniors'' rises so does our influence.
Billythequiche
18th Apr 2017
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Will satisfy the need to unify the government, hopefully. I hope some of the schemers, nay-sayers, those suspected of corruption and those misusing post of MP to feather nests and gorge at the trough of greed, get their just deserts and lose their seats. Perhaps if some senior Labour MPs lose theirs, we might even resurrect a viable opposition.
JeanL2
18th Apr 2017
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Why just labour mp when just as meny Tories mp were just as bad if not worse. As a lot of them rich
ChristineT16
18th Apr 2017
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Good. Teresa May needs a mandate. No more throwing the accusation "you don't have a mandate from the British people".
Fed up of Labour's profligate spending plans and the Lub Dems anti Brexit stance.
ChristineP43
18th Apr 2017
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Says more about her desire to rule Britain without any gain say than a desire for a fair Brexit. She is only for her gain not the Country's wellbeing st all. Power, power, power is what it's about
Treehugger1
6 days ago
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My thoughts exactly Christine.
Aprilshowers
18th Apr 2017
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Never too early to fight against these incompetent fools - before their destruction of the country is irreversible.....
Barbiegirl
18th Apr 2017
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Should have been straight after the brexit vote, but I can understand as to why she waited
RonB9
6 days ago
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Because the role of Prime Minister is not easy. She has to make the final decision. You have to consider so many things.
Richard McMillan
18th Apr 2017
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I hope people vote sensibly.
Birdseyepeas
4 days ago
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All depends on each person's view of what is sensible, Richard.
Aprilshowers
18th Apr 2017
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So do I Richard - I hope they learned their lessons from last year's shenanigans!
MaryB87
18th Apr 2017
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Very clever move Mrs. May, there's no formidable opposition at the moment. It's guaranteed Tories will win. I've always been a labour supporter, not anymore with Corbyn in charge. My vote will go to Tories or ukip.
JeanieL
18th Apr 2017
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Is it too risky? or has she done the right thing. I believe it's the right choice and she has to get all the members working together to be able to make the right decisions in her negotiations with Europe. Let's all work as one!
IanC32
18th Apr 2017
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Strong leadership and confidence is what is required.
FrancineB
18th Apr 2017
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Best thing she could do. Hopefully this will put a stop to the REMOANERS once and for all and stop them doing all they can to go against the will of the people and stop Brexit from being the success it will be . Lets get Blair, Farron etc flushed down the pan where they belong.
MosieB
18th Apr 2017
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The will of people on the south side, overall majority in Scotland voted to stay. Perhaps this will be the final nail in the UK coffin, with a bit of luck we in the north will be a total SNP nation after this election
CaroleAH
5 days ago
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Presumably you mean north of Hadrian's Wall? Many of us in the North of England voted for Brexit because we seemed to be invisible to David Cameron and his chums.
MichaelO8
18th Apr 2017
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Jo Kingham
18th Apr 2017
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I think it’s a great idea. She can silence the critics who said she was never elected and hopefully unite her party and the country behind her. We have some tough times ahead. No doubt the timing also has something to do with the 21 point lead the Conservatives are enjoying over Labour!!!
JohnHerb
18th Apr 2017
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Yes its a clever move by Mrs May. I feel sorry for poor Jeremy. I support Labour but they should have had David Milliband who was photogenic and plausible. He would have given Mrs May a hard time and I doubt if we would be going through the Brexit debacle now!
JeanL2
18th Apr 2017
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What has looks got to do with it
JohnHerb
18th Apr 2017
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Its not looks its just that Jeremy looks such a mess and I am a Labour supporter! David Milliband is smart, good looking and electable. His brother was a buffoon (eating bacon sandwiches comes to mind and a "windbag" and hence he lost the election. I fear Jeremy will be the same. My point is David Milliabnd would probably have won it if he was leader of the Labour party now
Baxi
18th Apr 2017
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JohnHerb: Jeremy Corbyn doesn't just need a new suit and to be photogenic, he may be a sympathetic character, but he is also seems to be out of step with the country. Could you really see him around the negotiating table with Trump?
JohnHerb
18th Apr 2017
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You are right Baxi-Trump would flatten him with bluster and his energy!
JohnHerb
18th Apr 2017
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This is make or break for Jeremy Corbyn. He now needs to bring the labour party together and show they are united behind Jeremy.
Pete H
18th Apr 2017
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Definitely the right time to hold an election pre-Brexit negotiations.

Time to get behind the government and deliver the best possible outcome for the country from Brexit. Also time to wave good bye to Jeremy Corbyn and his useless cronies so that hopefully we can have an effective opposition again.
JohnHerb
18th Apr 2017
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I like Jeremy he is a silent but good politician. There is no "spin" like with Blair or Mandelson
LindaA9
6 days ago
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You just said 9 minutes ago he was unelectable!
JohnHerb
6 days ago
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He is unelectable-everyone is saying it-even most of the media. Reason being he has no leadership qualities at all. He is like a nice chap you meet down the pub who is a bit of a windbag
Pete H
18th Apr 2017
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John - surely a silent politician can't be a good politician! How can Corbyn be classified as effective if he is trailing the Conservatives by 20 points in the most recent polls!!! (YouGov yesterday - Labour 23% Conservatives 44%) Corbyn's a nice bloke with worthy ideas but a useless politician.
JeanL2
18th Apr 2017
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The Tories are nothing but bullies, who think it's good for them to make fools out of people at question time in parlerment
JohnHerb
18th Apr 2017
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PeteH-He tries to get his views across but the media don't like him. His appearance lets him down. He needs a decent suit and a good haircut! If he was a lot slicker and a bit younger he may get more attention. I like him though he seems like a decent chap. I did'nt used to I may add!
Munsterlander
18th Apr 2017
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Well done Theresa-bit unexpected but it will be very interesting. Wonder what the non Brexit but Conservative voters will do? Same for the Labour Brexit voters.
Baxi
18th Apr 2017
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I think this is a very gutsy thing for Theresa May to do. She acknowledges that she wasn't elected. I admire her for being a proper politician who wants to carry out the wishes of the people.

Gordon Brown certainly didn't have the gumption to do this!

Good on ya Theresa!
Wilf
18th Apr 2017
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I think its a good idea as she was never voted to be PM by the Brits and this will give her the mandate. I never voted for Brexit but the UK did and we should stop dithering and just get on with it. The uncertainty damaged UK Limited. I think this will show up Mr Corbyn and the Liberal democrat chap as weak leaders. Couldn't come at a worse time for them. I cannot even remember the liberal chaps name shows what an impression he is making!

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