Should a statue of Margaret Thatcher be erected in her home town?

Here here totally agree, she started the rot of this country

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Totally agree with you

How sad to hear Grantham has that type of element who would vandalise such an icon’s statue.

I totally agree with you.

Well said!

Harold Wilson closed many more pits than Margaret Thatcher. Cheap coal imports, nuclear power and the aggressive unions were the downfall of the coal mines. Mrs Thatcher should have a statue but it should be in London.

I agree with you but it's not allowing me to do a thumb's up

Same here... I also agree, but a glitch in the system will not allow me to.

I'm a Merseysider, born in Liverpool & although no longer living in my home town, still resident in the county.

How that woman decimated the North West and how she sowed the seeds for this current harsh & uncaring regime... a statue should certainly not be erected in her honour.

well said. Very few people appear to know (or acknowledge) that Harold Wilson did more harm to coal miners that Margaret Thatcher.
Agree about London statue. In Parliament.

Thank goodness someone is stating the actual facts. The miners brought about their own downfall through sheer greed and the coal industry was on its last legs anyway; many miners have since found far better employment in alternative, safer industries. While on holiday in Somerset, my husband and I met a miner (inside Cheddar Gorge) who told us during a lengthy and very interesting conversation that he was one of many, many miners who were glad to see the back of the pits and, in fact, hated Arthur Scargill and what he stood for! Margaret Thatcher was a decent Prime Minister who, unfortunately, was surrounded by a lot of back-stabbing, cowardly men.

She was undoubtedly an exceptional PM and although far from perfect she turned this country around and effectively saved it from the period of total self destruction it was being dragged through by the over powerful and arrogant union bosses.

She was the first female PM in the whole of the Western world which is another factor making her worthy of a statue - but in Parliament.

Oh, Anne, you've twisted my arm up my back. A statue in the House of Commons then. How's that?

You should blame Arthur Scargill for the miners strike not Margret Thatcher

Austerity (which I imagine is what is the cause of the misery inflicted on the poor) was a direct result of the profligacy of Tony Blair's government.

Agree with you, but a gremlin in the works will not allow me to vote.

Though what a waste of money to confine it to the the sea beg... best not construct it in the first place!

That rather depends on who one asks!

Well if you ask me, I agree

IrisT75 both the gulf and the falklands wars were resolved and finished almost as quickly as they had started. Now let us look at the Iraq war which BLiar dragged us into on pure lies and which is still going on.....

I rest my case!

I seem to recall from the time it was her opposition to certain EU demands and new policies which she refused and not her party getting fed up with her.

In this light it is significant to remember it was arch Europhile Hesseltine who plunged the knife in her back.

And how many mines did Wilson close down

Harold Wilson closed more mines than Margaret Thatcher

May be that you are correct .I was answering the question posed not one about Harold Wilson ..

Harold Wilson closed 211 mines in 5 years

Other employment was there at this time. Thatcher got rid of all our manufacturing industry

Let the miners down - are you for real ?!!
Arthur Scargill let the miners down. He used them in his own political game and tried to bring the country to a standstill - well in fact he more or less did.
Would you suggest that he should have been allowed to continue like that.
Miners strikes had been going on for years when MT came to power. It took her determination to bring to an end a period of industrial misery and put Britain on a path to much great prosperity and stability. We were the 'sick man of Europe' and had to be bailed at by the IMF under Wilson.

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Mrs Thatcher was not a murder and neither was she a communist so your comments don't really make much sense in this context

Yes SusieB100 you are absolutely right. So many people do not realise that there were far more mines closed down under Wilson’s labour government in the 1960s than at any time since and I have stated that earlier in this conversation thread. I cannot understand why some people are just so ignorant when it comes to documented facts. Scargill was the main cause of much of the propaganda and strikes during the 80s together with the might of the unions who, thank god, lost much of their control under Margaret Thatcher and quite rightly so - they had held our country to ransom for far too long and destroyed many of our British industries, particularly the car industry - remember British Leyland?!. Sadly since her time in office, we have not had one politician who has even come close to Mrs Thatcher and the complete shambles we are witnessing now is not the result of any one individual politician but more the change in politics as a whole and everyone wanting to be “career politicians” making money hand over fist in the corrupt EU rather than caring about and working for the electorate of this country. Leaving the corrupt EU can only be a positive move for Britain and the strongest will survive. Mrs Thatcher would have had any deal done and dusted within 12 months of the referendum and we would not be witnessing the current shambolic and embarrassing behaviour of our current day politicians. She left a fantastic legacy to this country and I hope that during my lifetime I will witness the upturn in British politics and see the ‘Great’ put back into Britain for the benefit of the generations to come

MY THOUGHTS .ARE JUST THE SAME AND ONE CANNOT GET AWAY FROM THE FACTS

Could not agree more with Susie. All the above is true.

Not allowing me to give a thumb's down. Wonder how many more people have not been able to do this ....

Grandmabones, in the 21st century none of us boatneck post-WW2 can possible understand the true meaning of austerity - we have everything in this country that people need and more - the biggest problem is that of how it is actually distributed!! We are not subject to any type of rationing, we have a benefits system and a national health service, neitherbif which even existed prior to the war. The problem is that we expected everything that everyone else has but many people are not prepared to work for it - people want everything now and that isn’t how things work. I am struggling financially at the moment, the same as many other people but I don’t blame the government nor the “so-called austerity” - it is due to personal circumstances and bad decisions - we would all like to have more money but as long as we have shelter, food and warmth then that is the most any person should expect. Granted there are people out there without shelter and that must be rectified because it is a basic human right but as far as I’m concerned, austerity in the true sense of the word does not exist in this country or any other western country.

DavidH787 have you actually undertaken a national survey to arrive at your ridiculous comments?? Looking through this newsfeed alone it is aokatent that the majority of people on here would like to see such a statue of the great lady erected so your comments are clearly not based on evidential facts.

As for Brexit.... we’ll all I can say tknthat is the majority of people in this country who voted in the referendum clearly voted to leave and we WILL leave, whether it’s with or without a suitable deal, it will most definitely happen because we are a democratic country and we had a Democratic vote which favoured leaving.

Unfortunately the country voted on a pack of lies, Had the truth been told maybe things would be different. Sue Cowley

BrianC42 I'm sorry but I do not agree - I voted to leave and I knew exactly what I was voting for and why and so did everyone else, which is why they voted to leave. Myself and many others are sick to death of being accused by the remain camp that we did not know what we were voting for as if we are a bunch of uneducated idiots!! how do you know that the remainders knew what they were voting for?? From a lot of what I've read and heard in discussions since the referendum, the remain camp seems far more clueless than the leave camp and this constant barrage by "project fear" only goes to prove that the remainers really do not know as much as they think they do. The problem is that the remainers in high places standvto lose a lot of mo eye and status when we leave - the gravy train that MEPs have enjoyed and taken full advantage of over the years is going to dry up whilst Britain as a country will be free to trade with whoever we choose to. Today's millennial generation have been indoctrinated by loony left wing liberal ideas since they started primary school and this has been the same all through their education and into university. I was recently a mature university student and I was horrified at the way today's generation are being educated by a bunch of left wing liberal educators - during my 4 years at university I never met one single right wing lecturer or educator (and yes, I certainly had some very interesting discussions and debates...).

People are individual and hey each have the gift of their own opinions and self expression but sadly, just like the extreme Muslim fundamentalists, they are being indoctrinated with information which is not correct and has been twisted into the type of information that the government and the new world order want to control them with. The irony of this us that if is those who voted Leave who know exactly what they are talking about and the real reasons why we need to leave the EU and nothing that myself or any other Leaver voted for has ever been based on a lie. Many of us were around before we joined the EU, which we did not want at the time and 40 years of corruption and lies have more than proved is right. How dare you or anyone else accuse me of other leavers of not knowing what we were voting for!! That is highly offensive.

Totally agree LornaT13. I too am fed up with hearing 'remainers' saying 'brexiteers' didn't know what they were voting for, and essentially accusing us of being 'thicko's'. I new what I was voting for and the main reason was to hopefully be rid of the UNELECTED politicians of Europe making decisions about how my country will be run. They are milking the system of millions of pounds (euros) without us having any say in the matter. The 'end game' to them of course is a European State. I am fully prepared for a couple of hard years so as to be rid of them. The Europeans need the UK as much as the UK needs them, as trading partners, so I am sure once the dust settles agreements will be made, even if we leave with 'no deal'
Lady Thatcher was a strong leader - not everyone's cup of tea I admit - and definitely worthy of a statue to honour her. But alas, if it cannot be protected it will be vandalized by people with grudges. So in that respect it would be a waste of money. She made mistakes - as do all governments - but she also did a lot of good things too. Especially cutting the 'left wing' unions down to size, because if things had continued with them being so disruptive to industry, I dread to think of what the consequence would have been. They were far too powerful at the time, totally infiltrated by communists/extreme left wingers, and maybe the UK would have gone bankrupt. As for the Europhile Heseltine..... every time he opens his mouth he makes me feel ill.

Shrew1742 I’m so pleased to see that most people on here are able to see the truth of things as they are - I believe the majority of remainers are the younger generation who have been indoctrinated with the extreme left wing liberal ideas from the day they started their education. and we are now beginning to see the results of that indoctrination through the comments and actions of the remain camp. Yes Margaret Thatcher was decisive but she was by far the best Prime Minister this country has ever had. Politically I feel redundant right now but once we are out of the EU and the dust has settled then I foresee a huge transformation in the British political system whereby our country will be free from EU restraints and Britain will once again become the Great nation it has always been.

wholeheartedly agree with you LornaT13. I knew exactly what I was voting for when I voted to leave. This country is in the worst order and I blame Blaire and his cronies for our downfall. Margaret Thatcher would never have dragged us this low. I want to us to be Great Britain again and not a country to be ashamed of

NO JonathsnW5, Hitker was a Megalomaniac - Lady Margaret Thatcher was most definitely NOT!!

Who's Jonathsn whos Hitker? Just Joking Lorna. I love a Lady with Spirit. Disagreements are what make life what it is for sure..

JonathanW5 don't you just hate predictive texting?! Apologies for the grammatical spelling error.

HITLER was most definitely a Megalomaniac!! Margaret Thatcher was not.

Thatcher was an important worthy conservative politician who loved her country - I'm not saying she was right about everything but she got our country back on its feet and gave ordinary working class people the opportunities to makes their lives better through their own determination and sheer hard work

Hitler was not - he was a nobody who had never done an honest day's work in his life and was a political agitator (very much like Corbyn-Monoxide is today). He was nothing more than a loony socialist liberal agitator and later intolerant dictator whose goal in life was to murder every type of person he personally hated. He was not even German for goodness sake!!

Yes I am quite spirited when it comes to things I truly believe in and a megalomaniac is something Margaret Thatcher certainly was NOT!!

I think you have confused the great lady with the murderous warmonger and lover of mass immigration. BLiar! He’s the one who has the booodbof so many innocent people in his hands whilst he is still trying to destroy it behind the scenes!! You definitely need to read up and educate yourself on the political history of our country

As mentioned previously by DianeN5 I think you will find it was the trade unions and their greed that has destroyed this country, together with that warmonger BLiar and his rich cronies!!

Think it all started with her ..Margaret thatcher, the kids milk snatcher..

To be fair,she did set the wheels in motion for the pigs ear we have now,nasty women !

Oh dear JeanG57 - do people still use the term Mrs Thatcher the milk snatcher! Free school milk was originally introduced in 1946 to counteract the poor diet which resulted in many child illnesses following WW2. In 1946, under Harold Wilsons Labour government it was withdrawn from secondary schools and Mrs Thatcher had good reason for finally ending it in infant and junior schools. By then families were much wealthier and well able to afford to give their children a good nutritious diet so there was no longer any need for free milk which cost the nation a considerable amount of money.

Actually Susie the free school milk along with school dinners for that matter were a God send to myself and i'm sure a lot of others, as I was brought up in an Orphanage, where we were literally starved of the basics that children need to grow and develop..

I think you’ll find that the greed of the unions destroyed industry here, both light and heavy. Their demands were unreasonable and unrealistic. Instead of protecting the workers they sacrificed them in the name of socio-communism.

DianeN5 you have hit the nail on the head - even now the unions try to cause trouble wherever they have any influence (thank god much less since Mrs Thatcher smashed their corrupt club). Just look at the railways, particularly the underground, where they constantly still call unnecessary strikes leaving the workers at their mercy. Trade unions and a socialist government have never achieved anything, they destroyed the British car industry, they are not fit for purpose today as employment legislation has seen to that and they will NEVER be of anyone or any industry in the future. They DO NOT work, as has been proven time and time again.

We are at a major crossroads in British politics and there are great opportunities for change, leaving the EU is a great place to start and banning trade unions altogether would be the next great step. We no longer have any type of a “socialist” party in the true meaning of the word, we live in a democratic society where everyone wants the chance to be equal - Mrs Thatcher provided us with that opportunity so moving forward the future of this country should be in the hands of the people and NOT at the mercy of a corrupt EU, trade unions or champagne socialists. We need to start looking after our own people and stop interfering in everyone elses’s business. Margaret Thatcher left Britain a great legacy and everyone needs to learn how to make the most of it for the good of our country and not for a load of corrupt hangers-on!!

Spec savers for you PeterW56 cannot tell difference between a lower case q & a g

And warmonger Tony BLiar almost single handedly destroyed the “Great” in Britain!!

I don't part of your comment... exactly what do you mean by "out of brexit?" Does this mean the whole ridiculous situation wouldn't have occured ie no referendum or would she have cancelled brexit, or would she have speeded up the process of withdrawal from the EU?

Ooops... I really should proofread read prior to sending... sorry I omitted the word "understand" regarding your comment.

Tony Blair - this country's biggest traitor...closely followed by his wife.

So why was the Poll Tax unfair? Surely people use services so people should pay. We live in a house of two people and next door live in a house of six people (adults). We pay more council tax than they do. How can that be fair? If we had the poll tax they would be paying per person, just as we would and then that would be fair.

So why was the Poll Tax stupid? Surely people use services so people should pay. We live in a house of two people and next door live in a house of six people (adults). We pay more council tax than they do. How can that be fair? If we had the poll tax they would be paying per person, just as we would and then that would be fair.

Unless its a personal tax taken at source its uncollectable. No tax without representation is the theory it did'nt work in the middle ages and not in modern times either. Peasants Revolt proved nothings changed in 600 years. I could baffle you with the theory but simply put its do with a mobile society and actually it would be fair if the house next door is bigger and the residents are all paying income tax (consolidation funds). Where people live is mostly up to them and benefits do reflect the needs revunue. . Legally the arguement for Domestic Rates, Council Tax and Community Charge is that it is not charge for the services utilised by the occupier a but of form of tax on the occupation of a property; therefore the services you may or may not use are irrelevant to the amount paid. Its most definately not fair but it is caculatable whilst the head count was'nt.

Margaret Thatcher brought in coal from Europe because she refused to be dictated to by the miners and their boorish leader. How could she do otherwise when the country had been reduced to working a three day week and we had to eat by candlelight in cold houses during the strikes?

The British mining industry would have disappeared with it without Mrs Thatcher because it is a resource we no longer use. If you look at the records you will learn that there were more mines closed down in the 1960s under Wilson’s government than at any time before or since Mrs Thatcher FACT

Here here. Well said.

You have taken the words right out of my mouth, Billythequiche! So I might be joining you in the bunker with flak jacket and pearl earrings in the style of Kate Adie! 🙂

No bombs from me Billy-its a free country and we can all debate in a sensible way. By the way I agree with you!

Spot on! If she was here now, Brexit would have been negotiated and agreed within a year and she would not have hesitated to leave with a no deal because she would never have allowed the EU to even try to bully her. She loved Britain and would have done the best for her country. Think I had better join you in that bunker!!

I think you'd better build an extension on that bunker - there's going to be a lot of us in there!

I agree if she had been leading Brexit (not that I voted for it) the deal would have been done months ago

She was also a supporter of the EEC