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Should Donald Trump be prevented from making a State Visit to the UK?

On Friday, Mr Trump signed an executive order halting the US refugee programme for 120 days, indefinitely banning all Syrian refugees and suspending the entry of all nationals from seven Muslim-majority countries.

Moves to implement the measure have triggered anger and protest across the world.

Buckingham Palace has declined to comment on the row.

A petition to stop the US President Donald Trump’s UK state visit has gathered more than a million signatures.

Downing Street has rejected calls to cancel President Donald Trump’s proposed state visit to the UK after this clampdown on immigration.

A source said a rejection would be a “populist gesture”, adding that the invitation had been accepted and scrapping it would “undo everything”.

The Downing Street source told the BBC: “America is a huge important ally. We have to think long term.”

The petition states:

“Donald Trump should be allowed to enter the UK in his capacity as head of the US Government, but he should not be invited to make an official State Visit because it would cause embarrassment to Her Majesty the Queen.

Donald Trump’s well documented misogyny and vulgarity disqualifies him from being received by Her Majesty the Queen or the Prince of Wales. Therefore during the term of his presidency Donald Trump should not be invited to the United Kingdom for an official State Visit.”

So what are your views? Do you agree with Donald Trumps temporary ban on immigrants from the seven Muslim-majority countries? Should this be linked with his pending State Visit to the UK? Or is it a separate American government policy that shouldn’t be linked to his Sate Visit?

Should Donald Trump be prevented from making a State Visit to the UK?

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nape
2nd Dec 2017
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yes he should be aloud to come here then we can question him on things we don't understand he has done or said
BrendonF
19th Jul 2017
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Compared to some of the other despots. We have entertained Donald Trump is not on the scale for slimeballs. He may be brash and vocal, but that's forgivable. And he is declared friend of the UK with a heritage here. Judge not and all that.
maryroth
18th Apr 2017
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If he comes I hope no one turns up to watch him I am sure the Queen will understand!
davidgordonlumley
3rd Apr 2017
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I profoundly disagree with Donald Trump's policies and behaviour.
His attitude towards women is deplorable and implies that they do not have the right to be treated with respect.
During the election he said that Mrs Clinton was guilty and encouraged one of his entourage to lead a chorus of ,"Lock her up" He seemed not to realise that law is dealt with by judges and that the executive has no right to interfere.
He has moved to alienate the neighbouring country of Mexico and encouraged others in hatred towards her. There is already a barrier between the two states and a wall would have little additional effect. He has tried to bar Muslims from entering the country and insulted the judiciary who ruled his ban unlawful. A more sensible president would have strengthened checks on those entering the country if necessary but not used this to promote hatred..
In spite of the fact that the vast majority of scientists believe that global warming is dangerous and is caused partly by human activity, Donald Trump disagrees. His decision to reopen the coal industry will make it much more difficult to get global warming under control. His actions in this regard may prove a disaster for the whole planet.
Mr Trump actually got less votes than Mrs Clinton but because of the fact that this was an indirect election he was elected by the representatives in the electoral college.
Faced with the fact of the election of Donald Trump. Mrs May had two alternatives:
(i)She could treat him as a friend and use her influence to persuade him to moderate his policies.
(ii) She could Become his fiercest critic.
She chose the first path and there are signs that this policy may be paying off; after meeting her he seemed to become more supportive of NATO.
I do not think she should have invited him for a state visit so soon but to change policy now would be insulting and this would do nothing but harm.
Kazzaj
27th Feb 2017
1
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Love him or hate him he is the president and elected! I think we should give him a chance he was very respectful of our Theresa! Though I think she could handle him!
ecarg
26th Feb 2017
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Exactly Hockeymum61 . The fact is we don't know all the facts .The media mislead or generate false news ,so what do we believe? Anyone who is doing something to stop terrorism has my backing but then I believe that there is plenty going on that doesn't make the news and that terror attempts have been prevented and for that I am grateful .Having personal experience of such an event anything that can be done should be done but not at the expense of restricting law abiding people leading their lives in the best way they know how.
Hockeymum61
18th Feb 2017
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He is the democratically elected president of the US. End of story!
Gavin
15th Feb 2017
4
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What ever side of the fence you are sitting on the bottom line is that Donald Trump is the elected President of the U.S.A.
To say The Queen would be embarrassed is laughable seeing the many tyrants that have slept at the Palace over the years.
Lionel
15th Feb 2017
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Good point and so true. Thank you.
scandiman
15th Feb 2017
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It has become fashionable nowadays to attack all things American. We have been a world power for several hundred years and we still get it wrong. They have been one for considerably less time. When there are problems, the call goes out that the West (usually meaning us and America) must 'do something '. What ever we do, someone somewhere won't like it. In this country we have a very vocal minority who think they have the monopoly on morality and take to the streets bellowing their righteous indignation, howling down all opposition. We have MPs with their strident insistence that they know what's best, and will brook no dissent. They're worse than the 'fascists' they claim to despise. Oh, for some peace and quiet before someone else in public office in UK opens their mouth, again!
Lionel
15th Feb 2017
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Oh, what a breath of fresh air in a primaeval soup of discord. I enjoyed your post so much, and so agree. And yes, Oh, for some peace and quiet, some sanity in this so juvenile maelstrom that today we call the UK.

Scandiman, everyone who is anyone has claimed a piece of the moral high ground, which is no moral ground at all. It smacks of self righteousness more than anything. Whilst very vocally tearing down someone else they noisily hide their own immorality. Show business people spring to mind here. Oh, and politicians. Journalists ... where does it end?

I'm not entirely British, being the seventh generation of Polish/Jewish immigrants in 1840. But, generation by generation we were brought up to be more English. Today my wife would say I'm more English than the English. I treasure those very Englsih virtues, humility in defeat, magnanimity in victory and therefore utterly deplore the state of this once great nation, the nation used of God more than any other to take the Gospel to the World. Little wonder the Spirit of God is departing us. Soon, people will say we're Ichabod!
scandiman
20th Feb 2017
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Of course, I posted my last comment just before Saint Anthony Blair popped up with his quivering bottom lip and his messianic declaration that Brexit must be opposed. Thought it was too quiet to last!
CaroleR1
14th Feb 2017
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We must remember it is the Office not the Man we must respect. Would we want our Prime
Minister to be barred, unwelcomed or refused a State Visit to any other Country? We are a Democratic Country free to vote our choices. The USA is the same, and they elected Donald Trump.
The man I can never respect, but the Office is that of our greatest allies.
A State Visit now, maybe not. But sometime in the future, when perhaps the Man fits the Office and realise not everything can be bought!!!
Lionel
14th Feb 2017
2
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That's a very good point Carole, it is the office and not the man.

There's been an awful lot of judgement heaped upon Donald Trump when all we have is fake news and press speculation. There is a difference?

Let's all take a long, deep breath, give him much more time in office. He will be either the best of presidents in the last fifty years or worse than Obama.

Only time will tell.

But we Brits need America, we need that trade and we need their kind thoughts. Let's not be too hasty to judge nay person, let alone one so influential as the American President.
Lionel
13th Feb 2017
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Well, Donald Trump has beggared the entire Westminster bubble. That apology for a Jew (I can say that because I am a Jew) Bercow has been sidelined by The Donald.

The American President wishes to speak in a stadium where he may address a hundred thousand people, not a few dissenters in Whitehall.

He's shown these mealy mouthed politicians he may rise above them and show himself to be the victor. He will address the nation, not a few failed public servants.
Glasgowgirls
10th Feb 2017
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As a duly appointed President of the USA he should be allowed to visit the UK, but because of his own words & personal views he has not earned the honour of a state visit. Even President O'Bama was President for a few years before he merited a state visit.
Piyanah
10th Feb 2017
5
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First of all, the media has had a great say in this which controls what people think! The United Kingdom has welcomed leaders with far greater so-called crimes 'toward humanity', let alone their often outrageous personality quirks, so what the media stirs up should not be linked with influencing what the UK does in the way of inviting a leader who was elected by a great percentage of the American people. After all, you could say why in the world did the UK permit Obama to come over to this country and threaten it would send it to the 'end of the queue ' if the UK, that is its people who voted, wished to leave the EU??! We need to 'watch' him, of course, but as yet...he doesn't have blood on his hands as have other Western leaders.
Cthecat
10th Feb 2017
7
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President Mr Trump is a legally vote in President of the United States of America and should be given due respect due his position as President
We would expect our Primemister Mrs May to be respected as the representative of Britain
I am especially fed up with all the whingers who will not respect the majority vote when did we as people become so childish n beginning to behave in such a lawless manner what happened to our democracy?
I agree with u
fasteddie
10th Feb 2017
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I yet love my country, I served in the United States Marines, I vote, I care. However at this time I feel not only distrust in my government I feel shame for our nation. This man "the donald" is in dire need of mental help (he will remain in denial due to wealth) Most of those who support him are victims of the Dunning-Kruger effect and really belive what he says and has said (mostly false and many down right lies. The USA is in its decline period from once being a great nation. If I were young I would be leaving for New Zeeland - - so sad to see what is going on - - great idea to let the wealthy take over - -yeah right
Lionel
11th Feb 2017
3
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Well, fasteddie, I welcome you to Silver Surfers, a uniqueley British website. And speaking of British, in the mid 1960's we had a sailor who single handedly circumnavigated the globe. Francis Chichester. He wrote in his 1964 autobiography that if he were ever made Prime Minister he would send another Brit to New Zealand to report on how it looked from there. That's a good thought, a different perspective.

I've always looked upon the political and military shenanigans of the US with that eye. An observer from afar, a wider view. It seems to me since the late 30's you've had two presidents worthy of the office ... FDR and Ronnie Regan, both adventurers on the world stage, and both of whom took America by what could be grabbed and brought some sense to the American people. Only after their deaths have been been politically sainted.

With all due humility - the USA is not my country - Trump, for all his human failings, is well in their mold and let's face it, fasteddie, after Obama, the Bushes and Clinton, political CPR is so badly needed. They are the reason your country is in it's present abysmal state. For what it's worth, their 'puppy-dogs,' in Westminster have done the same to us. Emasculated the nation.

But we have a cold, calculating woman in Whitehall, and not for the first time, whilst you now have Trump, a brigand, a pirate and an adventurer. I contend Trump will deliver, no, perhaps over deliver, on his campaign promises. After his death he will be sainted too!

Remember, the American people protested against Regan. And yet he's a political saint. You cheered Obama who destroyed the meaning of 'American,' as an outcome of the word America.

So, let's all calm down, shall we. You people elected Trump and you're stuck with him. Please, have a little Britishness about you, after all you national roots are here, and accept responsibility for the vote, gracefully. And that without apologies published abroad. And yes with some dignity and poise. So much better, don't you think?
Yodama
14th Feb 2017
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I am nothing short of astounded at you perspicacity fasteddie, your psychological assessment of 'the Donald' should be discussed by other academics and Doctors such as yourself ( I am assuming of course.)

The Dunning-Kruger Effect I quote here:
he Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to recognize their mistakes. The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their own abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority.

The USA was already in decline, vast sums of money spent on wars which it can ill afford, the result, a neglected population!

What difference did Obama make ,
Nobel peace prize was a farce, he has stepped up wars and increased the threat to America by incurring the wrath of Muslims around the world. Somewhat Insane if you ask me.
George W Bush, after twin towers, smashed Iraq and caused lasting mayhem on the say so of a tissue of lies.
Somewhat Insane if you ask me.
I feel sure millions of your fellow Americans who voted for Trump and who came from all walks of life, would feel that perhaps the very syndrome you have labelled them ALL as suffering from, are trying in vain to free America from the business as usual despots who have held free rein for so long,
Referring to The Dunning-Kruger Effect, perhaps it is best suited to those who voted for the arch criminal Hilary Clinton.
Perhaps New Zealand, (not Zeeland,) would welcome your psychological expertise, good luck with that.
Hockeymum61
18th Feb 2017
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It's people like yourself who are embarrassing the US just now.
Hockeymum61
18th Feb 2017
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Lionel
18th Feb 2017
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That's a most unexpect compliment. Thank you.
caaland
10th Feb 2017
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Again he was democratically voted into office. While the losers are complaining (like the Remainers in the UK) more than half the population voted for Donald Trump and have expressed that he carrying out his campaign promises.
catrinrose
11th Feb 2017
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Well said, I totally agree with you.
DANYOU14
10th Feb 2017
6
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President Donald John Trump is the elected President of the USofA & therefore Democracy rules not these ignorant, uninformed, biggoted know all protesters
HEAPUS
10th Feb 2017
6
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He is the democratically elected President of a friendly country ,unlike the Chinese Premier that we got out all the glitz for .
Yodama
8th Feb 2017
4
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It must not be forgotten that Donald Trump is a Scot by Ancestry and he has every right to visit these shores. Not only in a Presidential capacity but also as a Scot. His mother, Mary Anne MacLeod, was born in the Hebrides in a village named Tong, Stornoway. She left for America where she met and married Fred Trump of German ancestry, Donald's dad.

The media, both in America and around the world have done a magnificent job in driving the character assassination machine. Busy little bees, dredging up every little dirty secret, saturating willing minds and driving it to distraction.

I wonder at the human race, where are your reasoning powers? Why are you hanging onto every little salacious morsel? Why are you believing it and crucifying the man?
The latest trend to emerge is 'False News'. In my opinion, most of the news today is in part false or inflated to whip the avid 'news watchers' into a state of frenzy.
We have law courts who call news like this 'hearsay evidence' and it is dismissed out of hand without given proof.
I wonder who really drives this machine. Perhaps it is the media moguls who wish to manipulate world events and who have a vested interest in having their chosen candidate kowtow to them.
Speeednet
6th Feb 2017
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Nobody but the American people have the right to say who is in charge, and I feel that it is arrogance beyond belief that anybody from any other country should suggest how they run things.

The liberals/left wingers are being shown for the fascists that they are throwing their toys out of the pram and causing mayhem and violence, just because they didn't get their way. Just like the anti Brexit remoaners over here.

The ANTIFA mobs on both sides of the Atlantic should be sued under the trades description act, because they are more like Fascists and Nazis than any other group outside ISIS.
CaroleAH
4th Feb 2017
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Much as it goes against the grain, I think we have to put up and shut up. Donald Trump has been elected President of the USA and, as such, qualifies for a state visit. Our Royal Family will, no doubt, have their private opinions about this man but will, in public, do us all proud as HM The Queen, especially, has done in the past. At the moment, Mr Trump seems to be behaving a bit like a bull in a china shop, signing documents with a flourish, tweeting or twittering or whatever it is that he does BUT he is keeping his manifesto promises. The American people (sorry for the generalisation here) don't seem to like the subtle, behind the scenes manoeuvring which the more reserved British race favour so Mr Trump's "shoot from the hip" and "what you see is what you get" style goes down well and we shall have to get used to it.
Jono55
3rd Feb 2017
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Give the man a chance: he has been in office two weeks!
rudgy
10th Feb 2017
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What a two weeks .A nightmare .
Menace62
2nd Feb 2017
10
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Yes he should be allowed a state visit to this country, he will be a vital ally to us in the coming months/years. I believe he is only implementing the views of an awful lot of people around the globe. Something needs to be done to start addressing the threat to all the decent law abiding citizens of the world and his way may well prove to be the right way eventually.
patadale
1st Feb 2017
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Donald Trump should visit the U.K in his capacity as head of state and in the interests of trade. I do not agree with his policy banning Muslim people from seven countries. He should not be afforded the honour of a state visit.
MorrisandDoris
2nd Feb 2017
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Agree with him or not he is the American President and leader of the free world not a despot leader from a third world country!
jeaniembe
4th Feb 2017
4
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I think President Trump should visit the UK and have a state visit. The Queen has had to stomach far worse despots having a state visit. I think she'll have far more to talk about with President Trump than say Martin McGuinness! As for the seven mainly Muslim countries that he has put a temporary ban on. Well six of them do not allow travellers from Israel into their countries. Where are the protesters rallying to get those bans lifted. I cannot say I like Trumps shoot at the hip style but he is who the majority have chosen. If nothing else he must be the first politician who laid out what he intended to do, in his manifesto and the first to act on that manifesto.
Doris Purkis
1st Feb 2017
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Americans voted for Donald Trump, the same as Britain voted for Brexit. In view of our likely reliance on America when Brexit does take effect, it would be most unwise to antagonise the USA. We should not interfere in another country's affairs.
Lionel
1st Feb 2017
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Yes, that puts it all in context. Thank you
nagonthenet
31st Jan 2017
3
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It will be dangerous to alienate him
mick2e1hzm
31st Jan 2017
6
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Will those protesters pay the wages of people that could lose jobs through the insult of cancelling the trip, all he has to do is stop any trade deals and people and companies could be out on the street, what about the families who lost loved one by unchecked immigrants, but it is not a ban it's a suspension until he can get security in place and its not about Muslims, it about countries with a high portion of terror groups
jeaniembe
4th Feb 2017
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Will they also pay the resulting increased security costs that their 'look at me' protesting will cause. Why are they not protesting that the majority of these countries, ban travellers with an Israeli passport or stamp in their passport? Or is it OK to have one sided discrimination?
Davey lad
31st Jan 2017
8
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It seems obama started this ball rolling, but didnt have the balls to see it through, good on you Trump for showing the world you have a pair in cast iron, and whilst 1 million over here think you shouldn't come here then as on Jan 30 2017 the population is at 65,343,829 so the 1 million is by no way speaking on behalf of the uk
Lionel
1st Feb 2017
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Davey, if you look just a little further down to my reply to Scandiman, that million votes is rather blasted out of existence.
scandiman
31st Jan 2017
6
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1.5 million people have signed a petition demanding his state visit be cancelled. There are about 50 million adults in the U.K. Therefore 48.5 million didn't sign, and maybe don't care anyway.
I wish that those protesters would make us much fuss about issues which directly affect this country. I have just heard a talk from someone working with the homeless; I know someone who works with those with mental health issues. Where are the protesters and petitions demanding that a solution to these problems be found?
Hattie
31st Jan 2017
2
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scandiman, agree. what on earth difference is MR. Trumps visit going to make to anything or anyone.
These people embarrassing our Country should take the time to think about the thousands of people round the world killed by terrorists which World Leaders don't seem to be to stop.
At least Mr. Trump is trying something.
Wonder what silly Lily and co would feel like if a family member or loved one where to be caught up in crossfire of these killers.
Lionel
31st Jan 2017
2
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Scandiman, this morning I was emailed a page of HTML from the relevant Petitions page. Voters country of posting on that page is recorded from their IP address. Here's just a sample of countries:

Rwanda, Reunion, Russia, France, Samoa, Saudi, India, Senegal, Serbia, and the Seychelles.

I think it's fair to say so many more countries are involved. So, of that much heralded 1.5 million votes, how many are non British nationals living outside the UK? Could put the petition result in a better perspective!
scandiman
31st Jan 2017
3
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Were a member of my family to be killed by a terrorist who was able to get into UK as a result of inadequate border security, I would sue the government. We have seen cutbacks in our first line of security, such that our airports and ports are wide open. Whenever someone proposes tightening controls, someone else starts yelling 'human rights' and 'racism'.
Wilf
31st Jan 2017
3
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Actually many of them may not be Brits Lionel they could just be rent a vote from Africa or Russia!!! etc
Lionel
31st Jan 2017
4
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Exactly, Wilf.

It is possible to ban votes/posting from countries other than Great Britain. Actually, it's quite simple. But the Government website hasn't done that. One must ask why? And ask, how many other petitions have similarly been skewed by foreign intervention?

Many other countries may have grievances against Trump but to interfer with a legitimate people's vote is treasonous. Our Government should make adequate provision to secure their website against all non UK interventions.
Wilf
31st Jan 2017
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Interesting so why would anyone believe the 1 million votes are legit ?
jeanmark
31st Jan 2017
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When signing parliamentary petitions, you have to state which country you are voting from and the vote isn't counted until you confirm your email address.

Just saying.
jeanmark
31st Jan 2017
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And who would you sue if that terrorist was born and bred in the UK, their parents? Don't get me wrong, I don't approve of such cuts but I don't assume only those people entering the country are terrorists.
mick2e1hzm
31st Jan 2017
3
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What have these countries got to do with a state visit to this country, will they lose the US market if we stop the visit the answer to that is NO it's this country that matters our jobs and trade, why should we take any notice of other countries next you will be saying they can rule from other countries, you go to any of these countries and start protesting and see what happens
Lionel
31st Jan 2017
3
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mick, I'm not saying any other countries should have even an opinion in UK affairs. No nothing like that. The point of my post was to point out of the 1.5 million people who voted in a Government petition for Trump to be exluded from the UK, so very many were of non UK origin. The HTML proves that. I've got an entire page here.

My point is, if we take out non UK IP addresses, and that can easily be done, what is left?
mick2e1hzm
31st Jan 2017
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Sorry got my wires crossed now I have re-read it
Lionel
1st Feb 2017
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jeaniembe
4th Feb 2017
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Aren't they already ruling from other countries? Isn't that what the EU is about?
Jo Kingham
31st Jan 2017
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Well he's only doing what he said he would do - now that's a first in politics. Personally I think keeping him close is the best thing - let it continue as planned
Mick241256
30th Jan 2017
6
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He was voted in on all these policies so let him get on with it
patch9
30th Jan 2017
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i think what he has done up to now is the thin end of the wedge,a very dangerous wedge.
Yodama
31st Jan 2017
1
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Sure to inflame an already flammable situation.
jSusie
30th Jan 2017
7
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Don Trump should be able to visit the Queen, Too many anarchists can't accept a democratic vote. They are like bully boys, determined to cause trouble. At least Trump says what he thinks and people voted for him, he wasn't pulling the wool over anyone's eyes.
Lionel
30th Jan 2017
4
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So well said, and so much truth.
Cath1948
30th Jan 2017
4
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Although I don't agree with his policies, I think he will make a better friend than an enemy.
We are on our own now,without Europe covering our back. Dangerous times.
MrsPat
30th Jan 2017
6
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I agree and the Americans have always been our friends
Lionel
30th Jan 2017
8
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Perhaps we should put our own house in order before any one of us dare criticise the policies or morals of a Commonwealth/United Nations member head of state. Least of all one so influential as America.

I notice the petition in question was against a Trump State Visit. Yet the Crown offer such to Idi Armin, a mere Sergeant in the Ugandan Army, mass murderer, polygamist and despotic ruler of a former State in the Empire. Surely, no one may think Trump in his league? Do they?

Our liberal thinking left wing luvvies would so like to shape their world in their own image, yet, even a quick glance at what they say they want shows that road map is the road to ruin. Just look at them - a shed load of dissolutes without a reasonable original thought between them!

I say, welcome President Trump, welcome!
Hattie
30th Jan 2017
7
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Why on earth not? Just because a lot of has been's and celeb's think if they 'yell' enough we will all follow.
Ok, Mr Trump might be going at things like a bull in a china shop but, at least he's trying.
The rest of World Leader's don't seem to be able to protect us from the cowardly evil killers who hide amongest innocent Muslims.
Think all he is doing is trying to protect his people.
Lionel
30th Jan 2017
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Hattie, once again, excellent. A voice of reason and sanity in this present madness.
Seccy
31st Jan 2017
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Well said. Brexit will keep thousands of Europeans out of the UK it seems 52% of Britons think like Trump!
Wilf
31st Jan 2017
1
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Just looking at your comment and I do think that by saying 52% of the voters who voted Brexit think like The Donald. I voted to stay in by the way but many friends many who are highly intelligent and in their 50s and 60s voted for Brexit and they are middle England voters but had enough of the bureaucracy and stupidity of it all. My view on the EU? A superpower of Germany and a load of PIGS (Portugal, Italy etc with economies that are being demolished by the efficiency and capability of Germany, Holland, UK and Sweden
Trumpsupporter
30th Jan 2017
8
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There's nothing that can be done, whether you like or dislike Trump, he is the USA President now, and he has been invited to the UK by the queen! Why are so many like sheep?? Most people are swept along with all the hatred for Trump without thinking about it on their accord!
Let him get on with what he says he's going to do, just be patient, if he doesn't do anything that he's saying he's going to do then yes start griping then!
MrsPat
30th Jan 2017
3
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He is different than many politicians in that he actually seems to be doing something rather than just pontificating. Mr Corbyn take note and that silly lady who is the shadow foreign secretary who was rude about a working man from Essex a couple of years ago just because he was patriotic and hung an English flkag outside his house and had a white van-at least he was shown to be a worker What decent work has she ever done-Pah
Lindylouq
30th Jan 2017
2
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Unfortunately we have to allow him to come .He is the elected head of a UN country .
We allowed the Chinese leader a state visit in 2015 and their human rights record is appalling .
The invitation was from Her Majesty ,I'm sure both Her and her family can easily show this man how to behave .
I am sad that the American people voted a racist ,xenophobic ,mysoginist into their highest office ,but you " reap what you sow ".
By the time he gets here ,the legislature will have overturned his proclamation ,and deemed it unconstitutional ,I'm pretty sure ,and when he gets here we will show him how a multicultural society is supposed to work with tolerance and loyalty being near the top of the list .
Lionel
30th Jan 2017
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Trump won't learn much about a working, functioning multicultural society here! This is a racial and cultural shambles, a hotchpotch of disparate communities, racial ghettos and tensions between these different peoples at an all time high. Parts of the UK are a powder keg!

If he is to see what he may yet save the United States from, take him to any Fenland town or better, Boston or Peterborough; take him to Leeds, Bradford, Birmingham, oh the list goes on. But better, I hear Mutte Merkel is very hospitable and the Swedes. Should just look at the pictures in their online press. Multicultural working?
MrsPat
30th Jan 2017
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When you say we allowed the Chinese leader a state visit so we should have. They have 5,000 years of history and are the 2nd largest economy on earth who have lifted hundreds of millions of people out of abject poverty. Our human rights record is not brilliant either-Northern Island, Kenya, the Miners Strike...need I go on?
Seccy
31st Jan 2017
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We are to a large extent a non integrated many culture society. Not enough people share the various cultures to claim we are a multicultural country.
Newbe
30th Jan 2017
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In all fairness, I wish the media would publish the number of people in the U.K who have NOT signed the petition against Donald Trumps visit, how many million would that be......
jeanmark
30th Jan 2017
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So agree Newbe, it appears the more it is reported the more people are signing.
Lionel
30th Jan 2017
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Yodama
30th Jan 2017
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He is the elected President and arguably one of the most powerful people on earth. His policies are not our policies,

We cannot take an arrogant stance on what is right or what is wrong with the President and how he implements his policies. Maybe it will be his hairstyle next.
Put away your placards people, it will not change a thing, he is coming, he will be welcomed by the Elites.
His temporary ban on Muslims is maybe his show of muscle, a message to say if " if you think we are a soft touch, think again!"
Donald Trump, President of the United States - Marmite man!
All new brooms want to sweep their own clean paths.
Erimus Exile
30th Jan 2017
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325,000 people entered the USA yesterday. 109 were detained for further investigation, most of whom were allowed to continue their journey. Draconian? I don't think so; besides we would be livid if another country tried to dictate to us who can or cannot enter the UK...............oh, sorry they do. (The upshot of which is Britex).
millimenopause
30th Jan 2017
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We may not like what he stands for ( I certainly don't) but he is the democratically elected leader of thd USA and therefore shohld be seen as such. Teresa Maybe or Maynot should not be sucking up to him in ghe way she has, that is cringe worthy and ill advised at such an early point. The way you defeat this kind of person is via riddicule and embarrassment, programs like spittjng image etc. I dont think we shall have to wait long for a colossal mistake and ghen thd citizens of the US will rid themselves of him. The reason he got yo the Whitehouse is because of the arrogance of the democrats putting Clinton up as the candidate. The baggage she took into the race just put peoples back up ax dhe was seen as the establishment candidate and thats what people the world ovef are tired of, so you end up with an idiot for President. ( hey the UK has big bird Boris as the foreign Secretary)
jeanmark
30th Jan 2017
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I'm not sure Teresa May is sucking up to him, you can hardly stand on the podium in a country hosting your visit and deride their leader in front of millions of people. Her body language suggested to me that she was tolerating him because she had no choice. Fortunately she didn't lower herself to his level.
MrsPat
30th Jan 2017
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I do not think Mrs May is sucking up to Trump. She is very pragmatic and wants to sort out Brexit etc. What can she do ignore Trump? And just where would that get the great British public?
Marymuir59
30th Jan 2017
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He has been invited by the queen who is head of state for britain. No one should be going against her wishes.
thefilthycripple
30th Jan 2017
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These are policies well stated before the election and rarely for a politician he is executing his promises . They maybe a warning to shot to all peaceable Muslims , to stop turning a blind eye to militant Islam .It is high time the liberal agenda is rolled back ,plus the last 6 Presidents have imposed bans on Islamists . Whilst on the subject of mysogony I do not remember Bill Clinton being unwelcome at the palace
Wilf
30th Jan 2017
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Its a crazy world thats for sure. It seems Trump is probably firing from the hip ...a bit like Mr Bush. Maybe he should take it a bit easy and consider all aspects properly. I do not think we should ban him from the UK. as then we become the same. Why would we want to ban each other as human beings. We need to be embracing each other as the world is too small for all this hate and nonsense.
Debbie Hunter
30th Jan 2017
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No one is suggesting banning him from coming to the UK. The petition is quite explicit on that. It is to prevent him being honoured with a state visit.
Wilf
30th Jan 2017
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The problem is he is the head of state and the USA is our closest ally. We do need to be realistic here.
scandiman
30th Jan 2017
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If we ban him coming here, then we also ban state visits from the Chinese and the Saudis.
No? Thought not.
Wilf
30th Jan 2017
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Why would we want to ban their leaders they are both nations we are friendly with and great trading partners of ours?
thefilthycripple
30th Jan 2017
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millimenopause
30th Jan 2017
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Governments cosy up yo whoever they can sell arms too. Thatcher was buddies with Pinochet. It makes me smile when ghe media go after Corbyn like they do regarding being a so called terrorist sympathiser ( means having a different view about the way Israel behaves) whilst selling massive amounts of arms to the Saudis who fjnd all kinds of terrorism and mayhem in the middle east. They also get to go yo Buck house.
Lionel
30th Jan 2017
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No, Scandiman, of course not. All this luvvie nonsense is but flim flam diverting us from an ever present reality. That reality is ...

Donal Trup is the democratically elected President of the USA. He leads the most powerful nation on earth. We would do well to fuether ally ourselves with him. He could be there for eight years - long time to be out in the economic cold.
Pete H
30th Jan 2017
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However odious Trump is he is the president of the US one of our key allies and should be allowed to visit. I thought Theresa May struck a good balance in her visit last week and we should continue to develop the relationship with him. He is fast losing friends around the world and the UK will benefit and be able to influence him positively if we continue to develop a working relationship but on our own terms.
JohnHerb
30th Jan 2017
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I think thats a very good point Pete as so many countries are starting to marginalise Trump and the one thing the Yanks and the Brits have always had at the end of the day is a rock solid partnership. We should maintain this especially in these difficult times and especially with Brexit. I think they are our major trading partner. Lets keep it so "two nations with a common language".
Debbie Hunter
30th Jan 2017
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Sorry, I think Trump's America First slogan means just that. He will trample on the interests of ANY other country, including ours, if he can show his supporters at home he is fighting for them (even if the only US interests who ultimately benefit are billionaires). He is also a loose cannon whose mood can be altered by something as simple as a tweet or someone questioning the size of his fortune (or hands).
Lionel
30th Jan 2017
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Lionel
30th Jan 2017
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MrsPat
30th Jan 2017
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Yes but at least he does stuff and get on with it. Mrs May seems the same.
Wilf
10th Feb 2017
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Yes I agree with you...rather than pontificating like so many of the EU leaders do and dare I say it the UK opposition. Nick Clegg was a classic example of that all hot air and no action-what a joke!
JohnHerb
30th Jan 2017
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I have to say I do not think the two points should be linked as the USA are now and will be a major trading partner of ours especially post Brexit. Why when Mrs May got on so well with The Donald last week do we want to wreak everything and ban him from coming here. Surely what the American Government does is their business? After all the Australian government bans many immigrants but we don't ban their Prime Minister? I am beginning to think the media hate Donald and so stir everything up?
Lionel
30th Jan 2017
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JohnHerb, I wonder how many of the people signing that ridulous petition were poor loser Remainers. Not satisfied with unsettling their own country they want to de-stabilise it's relationships abroad.
Seccy
31st Jan 2017
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Lionel I am more concerned with those who voted for Brexit because they wanted to keep Europeans out of the UK who are now condemning Mr Trump. His is a temporary ban Brexit will be a permanent one.
Lionel
31st Jan 2017
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Seccy, although the media, and political parties made great capital of wanting a complete ban on European migration, the policies released by the major Leave campaign people was for a regulated influx of Europeans, not a total ban.

The sense I gained from policy statements was 'migrant,' labour, People who come from Europe to a job, work their time and return home. The now so very many who may become permanent residents, and do, destabilised our jobs market, housing and usually they gather in ghettos in our towns to the exclusion of native people.

This is not satisfactory. It can be mitigated by controlled/regulated migration for time delimted work opportunities.

It is my understanding this is the mainline stance of the major Leave organisations. But sadly, there will always be those who hijack something for their own ends.

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