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Should over 70s be banned from voting on the country’s future?

A shock poll last night showed half of young adults reckon the over-70s should be barred from voting on the country’s future.

The Britain-wide survey revealed 47 per cent of the 16-34 age bracket think pensioners shouldn’t get a say on issues like Brexit and Scottish independence – as it’s the younger generation that has to live longest with the consequences.

The Panelbase poll of 2,013 people in Scotland, England and Wales was commissioned pro-Scottish Independence website Wings Over Scotland, after studies showed older people swung the Brexit vote in favour of Leave – and pensioners sealed the 2014 Scottish referendum No victory.

It found 32 per cent overall “broadly agreed” and 68 per cent “broadly disagreed” that over-70s should be stripped of a vote on “matters of potential major permanent change such as Brexit”.

But in the 16-34 age group, the ban/don’t ban split narrowed to 47/53.

In the 35-54 bracket, it was 34/66, while over-55s disagreed most strongly with a ban – with just 18 per cent agreeing, and 82 per cent disagreeing.

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Should over 70s be banned from voting on the country's future?

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RabHaw
3 hours ago
0
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Heard Sir David Attenburgh who is 93 discussing and advising on pollution problems on the evening news Age should be irrelevant in democratic society .
GeraldineM46
4 days ago
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Over 70's have the wisdom of living through the various different ways the parties behave, I would say ban 16-21-year-olds, as they are still very much politically green.
AlisonP24
11th Nov 2019
0
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Of course over 70's need to vote, the result should reflect the whole of Society and not be restricted to any particular age group. As it is they want to lower the voting age so there needs to be some balance.
Mrchipps1
10th Nov 2019
1
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I am over 70 and proud of it, and what right does a younger person have to dictate how and what I should do un my life. I served my country for over 10 from 1972-82 which is many years before these bullies were even spawned, to become pointless voice pieces for politically incorrect snowflakes. if you don't know what you are waffling about younger people, simply keep you gobs shut .
briana1924
9th Nov 2019
-2
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Maybe only people paying income tax should be able to vote whatever their age?
jeanmark
10th Nov 2019
0
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Briana1924, that would exclude many people who have as much right in contributing to decisions about society as those who pay tax.
philippopland
9th Nov 2019
0
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A couple of years ago I worked a part time job with mostly young adults with the 16 to 35 age group and to my horror found a good majority of these people had never voted. They complained bitterly about the cost of living and wages but were not interested in fighting for a better life style. To even think of not being able to vote is abhorrent to most 70 years old citizens.
AliceC
9th Nov 2019
0
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SylviaT83
8th Nov 2019
1
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The older you are the more life experience you have.
parsnip54
8th Nov 2019
1
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That’s all very well but how many of these younger voters actually stand by their views and actually vote on their own future. Instead of stopping people from voting, perhaps we should consider mandatory voting so everyone’s opinion counts. Or is that to much effort for the younger members of our country?
jeanmark
10th Nov 2019
0
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I agree parsnip54, it works in Australia.
jeandiane
8th Nov 2019
1
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If we are expected to work on after the age of 60 for ladies and 65 for men we should be allowed to vote too.
KeithSomerset
6 days ago
0
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Absolutely Jeandiane
sparrer
8th Nov 2019
1
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What a ridiculous question!
dibank
8th Nov 2019
0
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It's ridiculous that the older generation should be denigrated by a few people who don't appreciate the life and the experiences we have lived through.
We have teenagers now who follow so called (influencers????)
on the internet .Usually who are good at putting make up on ,having botox and talking dribble.
oh yes we really need these to decide the future.
John Walsh
8th Nov 2019
1
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When the younger generation have made as much of a contribution as the older generation have, then they can be free to comment. Until then they should keep their mouths shut. It's funny they don't mind taking money from the older generation when it suits them!
cyber-blue
8th Nov 2019
-4
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I believe all citizens 16 and above should be enfranchised in a general election. However, in a referendum on our nations future, I would willingly swap my vote with a 16yr old, as what happens in the future is less likely to effect me directly.
John Walsh
8th Nov 2019
2
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That's absolutely crackers. You're denigrating yourself.
coop13
8th Nov 2019
2
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I am 'only' 70 and can make my own decisions as opposed to younger people who follow the crowd (TV stars. Pop stars. Sports stars etc.) and have people making decisions for them.
rudijude
8th Nov 2019
0
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Unfortunately this demonstrates a lack of respect for the wisdom of elders! People who have lived through recent history have a deeper understanding of why we are where we are & a more realistic view of potential consequences including the "unforseen"
I believe younger voters are often unduly influenced by teachers with strong views, often left wing, which they articulate well. It is also a good thing that communications from political parties are under scrutiny. In the recent past this has been close to "grooming"

I have to admit I haven't looked into this but:
Do Scotland actually meet the criteria to be an EU member if they became a standalone country?
Trident
6th Nov 2019
1
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Never mind banning the over 70's from voting, it's the cynical politicians who want to lower the voting age to 16. I've no doubt there are some very capable 16 year olds who could make a rational decision on how they vote but there are an awful lot who at the very least lack any life experience to make that judgement. We all know life's not perfect but why try to make it more imperfect?
Lifeinthegrey
5th Nov 2019
1
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What do Sixteen year olds know of life exactly and above to at least twenty five, mostly they want to enjoy their freedom, music, friends, clubs, etc etc. Most couldn’t tell you what year we joined, they couldn’t tell you the initial stages or who was running the country back then without looking it up first.. We the senior generation have been through a great deal, learned a lot and especially what a great country this was WITHOUT the guidance if you can call it that of the EU members across the water.
We traded with the rest of the world ... but who am I preaching to certainly not those who will read it..

It’s amazing how our grandchildren and great grandchildren would sell us down the river... They should be studying the history of the last 100 years, perhaps then they may see it from our point of view!
ValerieH4
8th Nov 2019
1
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Totally agree. You have to have lived, worked and contributed tax and NI to have even the slightest idea.
BillyJack86nhr
5th Nov 2019
1
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As someone who has lived through the years before we were members of the EU. I remember President Charles de Gaulle blocking Britain's attempts in 1962 and 1967 to enter The Common Market. Over 70's at least have had life experience and youngsters who want to stay in the EU very little.
P0Pcorn
4th Nov 2019
-4
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No surprise that a silver sufer site voted to keep themselves enfranchised now is it?
Note that this suggest only votes which hugely affect the future of the Uk are in question.(plainly the referendum) Votes for who runs teh country arent in contention.
I would prefer a voter examination because i do not believe that most of the population actually understand what the issues are and what the implications of choice are likely to be.
Poeple would rather vote for winner of Xfactor Strictly or Talent and discuss soaps football or other sport with far more knowledge and understanding
Lionel
4th Nov 2019
4
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What a useless, ill-thought out comment!
P0Pcorn
5th Nov 2019
-3
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Explain why.
"Only 56% of 19-to-24 year olds were on the electoral register compared with 94% of those aged over 65"
That's an actual real fact.
You may justifiably say It's their own fault for not registering but the result is that the over 65's decided their future.
There is a reported surge in young voters since december election was announced.
I also know that many younglings didnt know that had to register thought it was auto like using NHS and also thought it would be something that would take a few minutes on the internet.
ValerieH4
8th Nov 2019
1
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Which is exactly why they are not fit to vote
Roundthetwist
4th Nov 2019
2
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Older people have so much knowledge to give
P0Pcorn
4th Nov 2019
-4
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Butr only in their own area of expertise and experience. Didnt we all get advised to ignore the experts?
Westminster
2nd Nov 2019
3
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I would be willing to forgo my vote if it meant that I didn't pay Income Tax anymore, or Capital Gains Tax.
P0Pcorn
4th Nov 2019
-1
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They only want to stop you voting for matter which hugely affect teh future of the UK. Ordinary stuff like who runs teh country isnt that significant.
Lifeinthegrey
5th Nov 2019
0
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Don’t forget the TV licence
Lionel
2nd Nov 2019
2
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I go with Peter Hitchens, the voting age should be raised to 40.

Looking back I think I was more politically aware at that age, and since, than ever before.
P0Pcorn
4th Nov 2019
-4
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Personally I would prefer a voter examination. Democracy is supposed to occur when voters make informed choices. I dotn beleibe more than 10% of the population has a clue what they are voting for most of the time. (OK maybe 25%)
Lionel
4th Nov 2019
4
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Such a stupid post! For what, precisely, would you have us examined? I have a BSc in Geology from London University. Does that disqualify me? My wife has been a mother and businesswoman. Is she disqualified in your rule book?

What are your thresholds in this examination? Who would conduct it?

Do you not yet understand, it is for the individual citizen to remain fully informed as to what is either proposed or going on? It is for the individual to make personal choices, to decide the nation's direction for the next five years. British democracy embraces the entirety of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, a collective result. That result stands!

If you want to exclude people from our democracy, I'll begin with YOU! Denominate your qualification for holding your opinions, tell us all why we should even read your post. I can tell you. there's several on SS of a like mind who would have you disqualified from voting in an instant - that is if you want such barriers.

It's goose and gander time. What's good for you is even better for us!
P0Pcorn
5th Nov 2019
-1
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It was a deliberatley provocative comment. You responded as I would have thought by being insulting and getting angry.

Yes it is the responsibility of the citizen to inform themselves.
In the matter of the referendum the electorate were lied to.
How many people do you know that are actually well informed about current issues or even political and economic history?

Here is a fact
Only 56% of 19-to-24 year olds were on the electoral register compared with 94% of those aged over 65
MarianneK
8th Nov 2019
0
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I lived in Nottinghamshire at the time, that had a high Brexit vote. I made sure I was well informed before I voted and voted Remain. However, my colleagues at work and friends in my village, all knew how they were going to vote and that was Brexit. Their minds were made up even before any propaganda was televised etc. So the lies etc, would have not made any difference to their vote. They were a broad set of ages, all well educated, with some being high earning managers etc. People shouldn’t just make a broad statement saying the vote was because of lies, as clearly in that small circle, these Brexiteers had made up their minds.
AlanS7
8th Nov 2019
0
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The referendum campaign was run by a largely remain government and parliament, Who had more to say on our outcome than the leave campaign, which is why there was the shock waves the next morning when the result was announced. People decided and made up their own minds
ispy
1st Nov 2019
2
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Voting should be compulsory with fines as the punishment. All the cash raised should go towards organising a knees up for the over 70's
GibsonLP
2nd Nov 2019
1
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Imagine the admin involved in this.
P0Pcorn
4th Nov 2019
-3
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Does that sound as incredibly selfish as the young think oldies are?
I know you were being heavy handedly jocular but look at how it seems to a youngster
Lionel
4th Nov 2019
3
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Did you lie on the age question for admission to SS?
P0Pcorn
5th Nov 2019
0
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No I didnt. I am not really surprised by what I find here which is why I probably wont bother with it much after this initial flurry of investigation. Peers kept telling me how good it is. Is very staid and same old
Few seems to have noticed that a great many things have changed. The good old days werent really that good except in rose tinted memory.
AlanS7
8th Nov 2019
0
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Don't slam the door behind you, my nerves aren't as good as they were!
LesleyG1
1st Nov 2019
1
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I worry about the education these young people have received. Do they not realise that men and women suffered to ensure that adults, all adults, have the vote? The fact that someone votes in a particular manner (i.e. their assumption that older people will vote in a manner they "don't like") is not a valid reason for taking the vote away from that person. A dangerous view!
P0Pcorn
4th Nov 2019
-3
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The view is upheld by demographics and analyses on voting behaviour. There are more oldies and more over 50 voted leave.
Young view is that those voters will be far far less affected by leaving than young persons just starting out. They think that their opportunities are now much more limited.
They seem ok with the idea of listening to well argued experienced persons talkin about their own areas of knowledge.
Legolass
1st Nov 2019
4
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The youngsters have it all wrong. We oldies are not voting to ruin their future, we are hoping and praying that we are repairing our mistakes of the past and preparing a brighter future for them. As an adult of 59 who now has to work until I’m 66 I hope the young voters have my future care in mind when they vote.
It works both ways.
P0Pcorn
4th Nov 2019
-3
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What was it you were voting for then? Repairing which past mistake? Fighting for a united europe so such conflict could never happen again. Joinin the eu because Uk ecopnomy was in such a mess and had to be bailed out by imf?
Which mistakes exactly?
Lionel
4th Nov 2019
4
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Popcorn, perhaps you should check your facts. The British economy was not in such a mess prior to joining the EEC. That supposed mess was a lie propagated by Heath et al. The IMF bailout was 1967/8 as I recall and was not a factor in the state of our economy in 1972.

The Socialists under Wilson caused much economic trouble with their neo-communist policies. That's why we needed a bailout.
P0Pcorn
5th Nov 2019
-1
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Neo communist Is that even a real concept?
Why did Britain join? For various reasons. Because De Gaulle left, the Commonwealth could not compete, Heath defeated Wilson, the free trade area integration model sunk. But above all, Britain joined because joining the European project was perceived to be a way to stop its relative economic decline. In 1950, UK’s per capita GDP was almost a third larger than the EU6 average; in 1973, it was about 10% below; it has been comparatively stable ever since. On this basis, joining the EU worked – it helped to halt Britain’s relative economic decline vis-à-vis the EU6.
When the UK joined in 1973, per capita GDP was 7% smaller than the EU6 average.
So which economic histories and sources and analyses are you quoting?
Honeybunch
1st Nov 2019
3
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Raise age to vote back to 21
P0Pcorn
4th Nov 2019
-2
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Make ebveryoen who votes pass a simple test to ensure they understand what it is they are voting for and the effects of their choice on average persons and the future of the UK
Lionel
4th Nov 2019
1
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Lionel
4th Nov 2019
1
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Bloody rubbish! You need to think through what you're saying because it is horribly flawed.
P0Pcorn
5th Nov 2019
-1
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Either explain or refrain. I did intend it as a daft response to lets make the age to vote 40. That has merit concerning voters having and educated informed understanding of their choice. Ignores the possibility that many under 40's are better equipped to make rational decisions.
Honeybunch
5th Nov 2019
0
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AlanS7
8th Nov 2019
0
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And that would all come out of tax payers money! I'm sure you would be first to complain
Asti0001
1st Nov 2019
2
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We’ve lived a lifetime and can pass on valuable experiences either by voting or talking. I well remember life before the common market (I voted no to going in) and it wasn’t scared, we didn’t ‘go without’ anything and life went on! I tell all the young ‘uns around me and they listen and learn!
P0Pcorn
4th Nov 2019
-3
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You do know that Uk begged to join Eu cos economy was a complete mess at the time. Uk got bailed out by imf and has done extremely well whilst a member? That aside life experience doesnt mean you can understand the ramiifcations of leaving for young persons who feel much aggrieved that their future has been decided by people who will not be that much affected.
On most other matters they will be more than happy to listen and learn but not when older people arent going to be as much affected by something as they are.
Lionel
4th Nov 2019
2
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OK, so you're yet another one from the remain camp who has joined ... today? Of course I'm right. There's been so many on SS just like you, make a silly point and beggar off.

If you had taken the time to read Speakers Corner posts from nearly four years ago, of which I was a poster, you would have seen yours is a lost cause. The hard core majority on here are Brexit supporters, as I am.

I'm somewhat sorry to tell you, spouting remain doctrine, which is not a truth at all, doesn't cut any mustard.
P0Pcorn
5th Nov 2019
-1
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Tell me who I personally will be better off.
Then tell me how the IUK will be better off.
I dont give a blue blazed banana whether we leave or not. I am interested in the emotional, intellectual world views and mind sets of the "silver tops". They are my peer group and I find them fascinating.
SueC62
8th Nov 2019
0
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I'm another in the Remain camp. I hadn't realised that Silversurfers was a pro Brexit organisation. I had thought it was for ALL of the older generation, whatever our individual views on varying subjects.

Popcorn has done nothing to deserve such a response from you. All he's done is offer informed debate.
CathyH85
31st Oct 2019
4
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This is outrageous, we have 70 yr olds running for government but the younger generation think they shouldn't be allowed to vote. Unbelievable.
P0Pcorn
4th Nov 2019
-2
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It does not say over 70's should not be allowed to vote ever. It is about voting for the future of the UK or in plain words the referendum. Many youngers think that its their future thats been changed by people who wont be affected that much but they will. They do have a point. SO stop being out raged and ask yourself how much difference it will make to them and how much it will make to you.
Lionel
4th Nov 2019
1
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Are you really over fifty?
P0Pcorn
5th Nov 2019
-1
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Yes I am so would you please explain why you are so hostile? I really want to know how you think. That matters.
BobD47
30th Oct 2019
4
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I'd be happy to not vote provided I didn't have to pay tax - no representation no taxation - I seem to remember that Labour wanted Shamima Begum allowed back as she made her decisions at 16 and was too young to know what she was doing - but now 16 year olds are mature enough - should also bear in mind that young people tend to gravitate to the left but the vast majority as they get older move back to centre or right of centre - as the saying goes if you're not a hard line socialist at 18 you haven't got a heart if you're still hard line socialist at 30 you haven't got a brain
P0Pcorn
4th Nov 2019
-2
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Mrs T moved the party to the right, it has gone even more right since and Mr Major said party been hi jack by extreme right. Current labour is hardly socialist. MOre kind of left leaning middles. Everyone said Blair was Mrs T grandson. I do not think you are correct about drifting to the right with age.
Lionel
4th Nov 2019
2
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Major took the Conservative Party Centre left, against the will of Parliament.

He also forced through Maastricht, against Parliament's will.

Facts, facts .. you do seem so short of them.
pholly
30th Oct 2019
2
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It seems like if you dont vote for what they want, then the answer is to stop you voting. Between this and the LibDem policy of Leave no matter what the referendum result was, it would seem the democracy in this nation is dying if not already dead.
Lionel
3rd Nov 2019
1
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Brilliant, and so true.
Margaret Hart
30th Oct 2019
4
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In my case it would be a waste of years of studying and a lifetime of sincere interest. The over 70s have worked extremely hard to raise the money to give all of you a much better young life than we had and we paid the taxes which gave you the NHS even though those taxes should have paid our pensions which are going down every day. Many have fought and died for their. Country and this idea is a real thank you for.that.. remember all younger people who bought your toys, music systems, fancy clothes, mobile phones (including the bills) and then computers - the over seventys but now they want rid of us. Do you want our houses and all we’ve earned. They’ll be voting to have us all put down like animals next!,
jamesjoyce01
30th Oct 2019
5
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Is this for real? are the young people crazy,have they forgotten that its the older people of this country that through time in various military organisations have made it possible for them to have the relatively quite lifetime with no turmoil or fear from foreign interference
patwhite
30th Oct 2019
3
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Most people in this age group lived before the Euro and we had a great future since joining we have lost hundreds of jobs we have some benefits but at the time they would have come. We didn't have a government undecided like it is today, school children are better. Is it the lack o f values or morals that now rule or the people that we elected. I am undecided I think we have to get this through before we as a country can progress. It is now three years it is so wrong. We need people who actually do what we wanted I.e out of eu.
Tonysss
30th Oct 2019
5
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The over 70's knew what it was like before the EU so know best and believe the UK can become great again on it's own. The young people can only speculate what it will be like when we leave the EU. You wouldnt employ a person that doesn't know how to do a job if you had another candidate that had years of experience would you.
SylviaO4
30th Oct 2019
4
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Most young people don't even know what they voting for the over 70s foughtbin this country and worked all there lives so entitled to vote the young ones should keep there opinions to them selves
ecarg
30th Oct 2019
3
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yes over 70's should continue to vote but looked what we have ended up with ,we can only elect those that are standing and few of them are doing a good job for the country.The whole electoral system needs a good shake up and maybe the younger voters are the ones to help bring about changes in politics.
Len33
30th Oct 2019
7
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A lot of younger people (Not all) are not sufficiently endowed with a fully working brain to be able to vote and should be stopped from doing so.
Just because they have reached an age that allow's them to vote, they think they know everything.........................and they don't!
They are gullible. self appointed narcissists.
Would they like to attend a newly qualified dentist to perform some difficult task on them, just because they have newly qualified from dental school?
No! They, like the rest of us, would find someone that has a lot more experience.
The world has enough problems without adding to them by letting some gun-ho youth take control of the nuclear button.
If this comment offends some of the youth..............tough, get over it..........................the same as we have to accept your 'ageist' opinions.
Jemima1
30th Oct 2019
6
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The over 70's. Are the ones with most life experiences, who have lived through many different governments & are generally coming from a wider knowledge/experience base
Lamberta
30th Oct 2019
3
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Everyone should vote, especially the older generation, as they have been around long enough to now the lay of the political land so to speak, plus many of the younger generation don't understand politic and so don't vote, so if the over 70's and the under 25's didn't vote, I wonder what state the country would be in?
ElisabethR
30th Oct 2019
4
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Oh please! Who thought this one up? I have heard on radio talk shows and in web comments that the over 60s shouldn't be allowed a vote etc because they are old. Why ask 16year olds? They can't vote yet.....it would be interesting to know how many 18 year olds actually vote. Maybe everyone should be forced to vote. I know a number of people who boast of never voting ........why should I vite for them?..............my attitude to that is "don't vote? Then don't complain.....!"
Is this just another anti age rant? Quite fashionable to do so these days.
They should all think about the fact that they too will get old.......there is no way to avoid it really. Isn't there a book written by the chap who wrote Day of the Triffords called One Fine Day when at 60? You had to report to a center and be killed off?....................so much science fiction has come about............ha ha
Tr1sh
30th Oct 2019
3
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I agree, if people (of any age and opinion) don't bother to vote then they have no right to complain about those who do. The 18-24 voters had the lowest turn out.

Looking at the poll though, when you consider the population of the UK, a teeny, tiny number of people took part.
ElisabethR
30th Oct 2019
0
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Hi Trish, it is an odd thing to ask 16year olds if the over 60s should have a vote when they don't. I remember the reading and asking peoples opinions and ultimately making up my own mind before I voted for the first time! I so wanted to get it right....and how I felt I had attained citizens rights at the time.
Can we trust the future of our country to the 18 year olds when the academic elite at Oxford are agitating to stop clapping approval (and one assumes disapproval.... Slow handclap) because it causes anxiety in some and advocating 'jazz hands'instead thereby excluding anyone with hearing difficulties, and possibly a blind performer who couldn't see the approval of an audience?
However time will go on and I daresay we will all adjust to whatever happens. Just get it done.
StephenL6
31st Oct 2019
1
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I agree, and have another idea that would surely have the desired effect. Everyone over the age of 18 is ENTITLED to vote, but too many just don't bother. So, FINE them all. If they can't be bothered to vote, make them pay a fine of say £25. That would make them think again. It's easy to implement, we all get a voters polling card and number, which is checked off when we get to the Polling station. Oncè the polls are closèd, all it needs is for someone to enter the details of the NON-voters, who will then be contacted, told they're being fined whatever amount is decided, and told to pay within 14 days or the amount is doubled. That would make them think again.
ElisabethR
1st Nov 2019
0
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I think it is compulsory to vote in Australia. I wonder what happens if you don't? At least they cannot moan and whinge and whine about the government they have ..............and it turns out they haven't voted because "its useless and makes no difference" That always infuriates me. Look what happened when many more turned out to vote.........brexit.............an unexpected happening and the mess THEY have made trying to ignore or overturn the result from saying we were lied to (we were on both sides) to the accusations that we were all old, racist, and or stupid. Brains do not drop out when you hit 60+ but on their own age judgements the greater numbers in the house of commons and the other place are not fit to be there. Another question entirely.
RobR99
30th Oct 2019
6
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Hell No, they might live another 30 odd years, at least l hope l do! Mind you tho’ if there’s a ban on the over 70’s voting on the country’s future then that will rule out a lot of MP’s voting! Hmm, you have me thinking now - might not be a bad idea after all
KathrynR9
29th Oct 2019
3
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Older people have seen the successes and the failures of various governments over the years and have listened and learnt. We are not easily fooled by glibness or promises with with no proper backing or research .I think young people have a lot to offer but they must not forget first hand knowledge is very important.
Tr1sh
29th Oct 2019
3
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Yes, how very dare the naughty old people hobble down to the polling stations and cast their vote, if only the young people had known ...
BrendaJ39
29th Oct 2019
4
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I am 67 and in good health. I expect to live for at least another 20 years if not longer. I will certainly be affected by any new laws and any Brexit result, therefore I should be able to vote, etc.
EvanEvans
29th Oct 2019
6
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Daydreams
29th Oct 2019
2
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Well I voted to remain, however I despair of ever leaving the way things are going, the younger members of our society are entitled to their opinions, and if you can't be arrogant when you're young and obviously know it all when can you be.Wisdom may come with age if they live long enough, I look forward to hearing more views on this subject.
jg16
29th Oct 2019
5
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It is because of the mamby pamby youngsters of today that this world is in the sad state it is in - political correctness gone mad.
The people they are trying to stop voting have common sense, life experience and have also worked most of their lives, unless quite a few of the younger generation nowadays.
MargaretDean
29th Oct 2019
1
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I voted to remain as I care about the future for my grandchildren and we've all had a better life since joining the (Common Market as it was) EU as it is now, don't really look forward to going back to the 'dark ages'
Wilf
30th Oct 2019
2
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I agree Margaret I think its a big mistake leaving the EU-the richest trading bloc globally! It makes no sense.
Bigjohn
29th Oct 2019
3
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As has been stated the young have no life experience which we the older generation have, we have the wisdom of our learning over the years to be able to assess situation far better and know the consequences of our actions wrong or right, we have learnt from the mistakes of various parties in power., so can vote with accuracy for the best party to lead the UK for better.
Bigjohn
29th Oct 2019
5
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If the young don't want the over 70's to vote or be a member of parliament then Jeremy Corbyn who is 70 ( Born May 1949 )would not be allowed to vote or be voted into office. I am not a labour voter but I am 1 yr older than him. I will vote for the party I want in power. I bet Corbyn on his salary still takes the heating allowance every year, whilst other pensioners struggle on a low income.
biker babe
29th Oct 2019
4
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SheilaB87
29th Oct 2019
7
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When youngsters contribute they can voice an opinion! How can they possibly vote before 21! They haven't lived or had any responsibilities living under parents umbrella
iestynlad
29th Oct 2019
1
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Agree and the ages of allowed to do stuff should be all the same and as for voting at 16!
PhilipU
29th Oct 2019
3
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What a load of rubbish who thinks up these polls must be the younger ones who have plenty of time on there hands without the older generation where would they be today.
SusanneU
29th Oct 2019
3
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Everyone has the right to vote! How else can it be a democracy.
LornaT13
29th Oct 2019
5
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Absolutely NOT! Older people have far more life experience and understanding of the world and country we live in and as such is extremely important to pass down to the younger generations. If we are going to stop people voting the. It would be far more beneficial to stop everyone under the age of 25 from voting as most of that age group today have absolutely no common sense between them neither do they understand the realities of life because they live in a utopian bubble nurtured by the liberal left wing ideals which they are indoctrinated with from the moment they start state education! The older vote is definitely far more valuable than the immature younger vote and always will be.
doubletrouble
29th Oct 2019
3
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Most oldies do not harp back to how it used to be. Because we have lived longer we have seen and experienced consequences of certain decisions and actions that the youngsters cannot know know or understand. It gives a balance to arguments.
Shelfside
29th Oct 2019
4
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What a load of rubbish. Desperation on the side of those who believe all of the 'older' generation are leavers (which I am it must be said) and that all young 'uns are remainers.
A ludicrous and cynical suggestion on a par with enfranchising 16 and 17 year old children - because that's what they are, children.
SallyC91
29th Oct 2019
5
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Without the older generation,the young ones would have no future at all..And we come from an era where we weren't contaminating the Planet .
SusanneJ5
29th Oct 2019
4
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Bloody cheek. These snowflakes don't know what hard times the "oldies" had to put up with. They are so arrogant these days and think the World revolves around them.
Thula
29th Oct 2019
3
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What the younger generation should be grateful for is that the older generation gave their lives so that they could have the freedom that they have today. Would love to see them going to war at 16
and the hardships that our brave soldiers had to go through, the disrespect that some of the youngsters have for the elderly is disgusting, do they feel this way about their parents or Grandparents.
ChristineH32
29th Oct 2019
3
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If over 70s were stripped of the vote would they be exempt from all forms of taxation. If they have no say in who governs our country and how it is run why should they contribute financially while 16-18 year olds who have never contributed get a vote?
Wipeout
29th Oct 2019
3
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This poll can't be regarded as something that means anything... the age group for the poll started at 16...two years before being able to vote. So that said, the percentages do not mean much at all if you take the 16 year olds out of the equation.
RLH
29th Oct 2019
8
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If it weren't for the elderly who fought wars to keep this country free those young selfish ungrateful idiots wouldn't be here to vote. They are the people not fit to get a vote.
AgnesB1
29th Oct 2019
3
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Was just going to say the same,their arrogance knows no bounds.
MylesB
29th Oct 2019
6
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Yes young people. Even though we wish you the best and most wonderful lives possible as you are now our future, ban us older people who have learnt the ways of the world by bitter experience. It will be hard for us though to spend the remainder of our days watching you take the consequences of your mistakes… sometimes parents really do know best…
ChrissieDB
29th Oct 2019
8
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More like the under-25s should be banned from having the vote - they haven't yet "lived"; don't know anything worth knowing, yet! They've had no experience of things tried by governments/societies before that really didn't work, etc. etc. etc. And lesson 1 ought to be to respect and listen to their elders, like some other ancient, advanced societies do.
pinkladycool
29th Oct 2019
8
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I am absolutely disgusted at this derogatory and devicive poll . Seems it's ok to work till your late 60s and then be put on the scrap heap when the magic number 70 arrives. I have strong veiws on a lot of political issues . I might remind the lovely young things that it is our generation that voted us into the common market in the first place. That was the error. We should have never gone into it in the first place. 16 to17 year olds are too young to realise the implications of being adult never mind having the vote.
CatherineP13
29th Oct 2019
9
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The older people have paid their taxes for a great many years and many have paid the price of losing family in protecting the country - they have somewhat more experience in life and are needed to stabilise the younger people and ensure a fair decision is reached on a great many current affairs.
Yagala
29th Oct 2019
6
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I am really and truly amazed that nobody, but nobody, has come yet with the advice to "do away" with the oldies.
I have come across people while driving whom shouted at me that I should stop driving because of my age.
In the past 10 years I had a few accidents because people coming out of a parking place did not look around being too busy squawking on their mobiles and not paying attention to traffic.
I was hit on the left those times when someone drove onto the road, crossing a footpath, a pavement and the inside lane of a 2up and 2 down road, after a lot of to-do I was shouted at that I was too old to drive and I should have stopped when his highness came onto the road from the left.
Another time the same happened when someone drove onto the road from the left and not bothering to look around.
I was told that I was demented, and paranoid schizo and should be locked up.
Strangely though all these thoughts were voiced by quite younger persons who were driving on the road.
The same goes for youngsters on the pavement. They walk 4 abreast and wanted me to step into the road thus they could on and not need to give a spacewalk unhindered and not need to give me any space, calling me a pervert, a lecher and I should be told to stay at home.
Maybe the word "killing off" should have been used to make clear that people over 70 are not useful anymore and taking up space for nothing.
The youngster should think very hard about things like this because of the oldies they are on this world of ours.
JuneA81
29th Oct 2019
6
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I think we have lived in the country longer there for know more about politics and what would these people prefer that there was no elderly on this earth ,they should be ashamed to suggest such a thing.
PhilL4
29th Oct 2019
10
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When they ban over 70's from the House of Commons and The Lords, and that ain't going to happen!
RoyT8
29th Oct 2019
11
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My generation, we're unable to vote, until the age of 21. As a result of our efforts, we succeeded in reducing the age to 18. Future generations enjoy our success. We don't need their thanks, but now, they wish to now exclude us.
AnnE256
29th Oct 2019
3
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Totally agree with you
2DogsDoyle
29th Oct 2019
10
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People should remember those who fought to ensure ‘voting’ remains possible and the sacrifices made by those they now wish to preclude!
FionaR86
29th Oct 2019
11
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By dint of age, older people have more experience and longer memories. This is important as they see not only the past, but the future.
AnnE256
29th Oct 2019
1
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JoyceC49
29th Oct 2019
10
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if we were good enough to pay taxes etc to support our country then we are entitled to have a say on where our country goes.
Olliebears
29th Oct 2019
8
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Over 70s have a right to vote They also have to live with the outcome of what happens in our country
RoyT8
29th Oct 2019
5
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If the youngsters are serious about the undemocratic idea, I have a counter proposal :
The electorate will be over the age of 40, All those younger than 40 will be excluded from any democratic debate.
Bbeeden
29th Oct 2019
6
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I worked and paid my taxes for 50yrs I am I titled to a vote
MarieR13
29th Oct 2019
10
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Oh ! the arrogance of these voters is unbelievable! we went without so much growing up after the war, we didn't complain we rolled or sleeves up and got on with it, no university for us straight to work, and we looked after our old in those days,.

How dare they think anyone over 70 shouldn't vote!! we still pay our taxes rates and bills , and we have a right to have a say in how our country is being run. At least we take an interest in how it is run and get out an vote, do all of those who would deny us our rights .
Felix1
29th Oct 2019
6
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blackbeard
29th Oct 2019
4
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There has always been through generations past and will be for generations to come I have no doubt, that typical gap between young and old, male female etc etc etc.

Yes the youngsters think they know it all, and I probably felt the same way when I was 15, 20, 30, 40, 50 and still now at 70 I'm of an opinion that my views are better than anyone elses. So nothing changes.

What is needed from youngsters and oldies alike is more tolerance of each other and more understanding that yes there is and always will be the "generation gap" but that that gap can be reduced by helping each other to understand each other
AnneC912
29th Oct 2019
7
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We have length of life experience. Of the changes and redirection in politics as well as social norms. We are blamed for the past and lack of PC behaviour and poor practice, but not recognised as being the generation that has worked for and achieved change. Our experience and knowledge should be respected and taken in to account and not just the short fix, short term view of the younger generations.
StephN1
29th Oct 2019
9
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It would be unreasonably unjust to take away the vote from people over 70. There could be all sorts of things voted for that would affect over 70s badly.

Young people, especially those between 16-18 have had little experience of life or work so could make very bad decisions. It is they who should not have the vote. Perhaps under 21s as well.

Do these young people know the history of how difficult it was to get the vote in the first place, especially for women?

Re Brexit, do they know what the EU's plans are for the near future? Do they know the current state of the EU, particularly the Euro which all EU countries will have to sign up to under the 'closer union' plans.

No, I thought not.
VirginiaW3
29th Oct 2019
8
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The youngsters think they know it all ,very intelligent people over 70 don't shut them out .They have worked through some tough times ,and have learned what is important .
molly 65
29th Oct 2019
10
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If I’m not allowed to vote at 70 then I shouldn’t have to pay so much tax on my pension etc!!!
LornaT13
29th Oct 2019
0
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Molly 65 if we are not allowed to vote over the age of 70 then we should not have to pay any type of tax on anything whatsoever, including pensions, council tax or anything else which is currently demanded by the government!
Retiredyorkie
29th Oct 2019
13
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Anything else us oldies are doing wrong

We seem to get the blame for everything NHS because we are living too long, and now want to ban us from voting.!!!

The majority of us left school at 15 and worked nearly all our lives contributing taxes etc I think we have earned the right to vote.
AnnE256
29th Oct 2019
1
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Totally agree with you
Ian123
29th Oct 2019
11
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I am surprised to see that currently 6% of our voters agree.
The age group referred to do not instil me with confidence about our future, but, thankfully I will have popped my Clogs by the time it comes for them to rule and wallow in the gravy train.
With age comes experience and the youngsters do not have the experience of life to make judgments on their elders.
Plus the fact they will only know the negatives available to the masses, whereas the older generation knew full employment, and access to education, a doctor, council housing etc.
Life for many was a struggle financially, but there was a community spirit.
Nowadays it is every man for himself, with a certain class of lowlifes preying on the elderly.
Billythequiche
29th Oct 2019
7
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Absolutely ridiculous, the way things are heading, that would result in men still working but disenfranchised. For heavens sake, we are not all "gaga" and blocking post office queues exuding "eau de urine.
Most of us only receive the pensions we PAID for and still pay tax. Perhaps the rallying cry should be "no taxation without representation", my enfeebled mind seems to think that that has already been done.
Make us retake a driving test, do away with seats for the elderly on public transport, even "means test" travel passes and fuel allowances. All these are up for sensible discussion but to take away our right to vote, NEVER. I could make a better case for taking the vote from anyone under 21 convicted of an offence, even motoring. You cannot take that seriously but that is true of the proposition for seniors.
For those not of advanced years, "means test" used to have shocking and shameful connotations, as did National Assistance.
JaniceW56
29th Oct 2019
12
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The young have not known anything different. The older generation have lived both in and out of Europe. I think they have a more balanced opinion.
RoderickB1
29th Oct 2019
11
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Some over 70'a have fought in conflicts to give the freedom to vote to the younger generation. They have paid their taxes and their youth to building this nation. THEY HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
Mary Lincoln
29th Oct 2019
10
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What do they teach children in school's these days?.Do they ever think who has paid with their hard work and taxes to bring England back to the wealthy country it has become since the last war.Of course not. They are not taught to think for themselves, just listen to the rubbish on Twitter and such on their mobiles. They are becoming like zombie having to follow what is told to them. Soon they will call for euthanasia for all over 70s to make room for more robotic workers .God help them.
jacacc1210
29th Oct 2019
7
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Banning the over 70's from voting when they have worked the longest and paid into the system the most. They have every right to vote just because they are old does not mean they have no future, especially as people are living longer.
What next from the younger generation a vote to kill the over 70's, set a maximum life age for everybody to reach ?
I guess you will get some young politician thinking this is a good idea that will save money in pensions and on the NHS as that is where this could lead to in time !!!
Gardenmad
29th Oct 2019
4
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Yes, why not ban the over 70's from voting, and ban them from child care, and sitting on the check out at the supermarket, and walking slowly and using up the resources of the NHS. We're very inconvenient us oldies.
Dodiesmum
29th Oct 2019
5
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Love your humour and absolutely agree I also wonder how many people have been to weddings or funerals where the officiant was 70/80+and absolutely in control of themselves and the situation...Don’t write us off
Gardenmad
29th Oct 2019
2
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Thanks, Dodiesmum. Life's too short to be serious all the time. I really can't get upset about surveys. I read one recently that said people who have the most birthdays tend to live longest.
Yodama
29th Oct 2019
8
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Of course over 70's should not be banned from voting.
In some petitions being sent to government, 65 year olds shouldn't be voting either.

It would be interesting to see how the country would cope if all the "wrinklies" withdrew their taxes, businesses, charities, teachers, doctors etc. What would the repercussions be?

Our spoiled young snowflakes have been got at by speakers at schools and universities. The Media has been whipping up the ageism project for some years now.

Must read or see:
Soylent Green, a movie made from the book "Make Room, Make Room is a brilliant glimpse into the future (2022) when old people are euthanased and turned into food on a dying planet.

Maybe with a nice Chianti?
Jakki
29th Oct 2019
4
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Don't forget the film 'Logan's Run' either. They had compulsory euthanasia at 30!
Rosedeb
29th Oct 2019
1
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Just what we were thinking, and perhaps we should all go to carousel, think that was 30
Yodama
31st Oct 2019
0
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Ever heard of the "Liverpool pathway?"
LanceFogg
29th Oct 2019
10
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The statistics come from a very flawed poll. What a load of rubbish. Reminds me of the old saying - there are lies, damned lies and statistics.
I have probably another 25-30 years left in me, maybe more, so I expect to have some say in how this country is run.
Many youngsters have no idea what goes on in the world and judging by the interviews in the street carried out by the media, particularly the BBC, neither do their parents. Their world is encapsulated in their mobile phone. Their newscasts are on Twitter and Facebook and their personal life, the same.
That's no basis on which to base judgement on major political issues.
As has already been said, with age comes wisdom.
Mogs66
29th Oct 2019
10
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Everyone is allowed an opinion, but with age comes wisdom which our youngsters will eventually realise.
copper beeches
29th Oct 2019
10
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Personally, and I know I will not be popular saying this, I don't give a dam. I am 78 (just) and I and many I talk to, young and old are sick to the back teeth of Brexit. We are governed by a mish mash of dithering idiots who fight and bicker like children. We had a vote but a lot of MPs would like us to have another. This is not the best of three or five decisions until we get one that the majority of parliament agrees with. I am afraid that my complacency arises from the fact that I personally cannot do a thing about anything anymore. Some MP's are targeting the younger voters just like Hitler did. Don't believe them children they don't ever come true to their tongues.
McGilchrist
29th Oct 2019
13
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It is the over 70s that know the history of this country and Europe and are able to make an informed decision.
DottyC5
29th Oct 2019
-4
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I dont think the over 70s should be banned from voting - this would be a downward trend to seperate people on other topics in the future - also lots of over 70s enjoy being part of europe - we have also fought hard to keep our votes, ( women, workers) this could be a backward step.
But as for Brexit I think 16 year olsd should be allowed to vote on this as it is going to affect their future more then the over 70s - I think it would be very wrong and a backward move to start to take away votes from people who already have their vote
CarolynB5
29th Oct 2019
13
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We still live in this country and some of us could live quite a few years to come , and may be affected as well , we also vote on behalf of the future of our children and grandchildren
AnneW74
29th Oct 2019
5
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We can all see, how the younger generations are supposed to be running our country which is a big mess in all my 65 yrs we have never had a government like this lot that are running our country, perhaps if they got shut of all of them and put us pensioners to run it ?
Jeanmw
29th Oct 2019
4
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I would probably have had the same opinion as a teenager. I remember how much I thought I knew.
PriscillaG
29th Oct 2019
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Silversurfers I find your posts offensive and divisive. They seem to be motivated be the need to pit one generation against another presumably to reflect the Tories divide and conquer tactics to ensure that the attention is taken away from the real cause of people's problems :- The self serving Tory Government!
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Hello PricillaG. We are only reflecting issues that are in the news and we are totally impartial. These range from Speakers Corner topics discussing your taste of Cadburys Creme Egg recipes, Smart Motorways, BBC Licence fees to current affairs, and much more in between. It is a community for the over 50s to discuss topics that are relevant. Joining in is, of course, optional.
MrsPat
29th Oct 2019
13
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I have to disagree Priscilla and that is as a lifelong Labour voter. I cannot see why you think the Tories come into it? I go on Silversurfers daily and find the wide range very entertaining and many posts very funny. It is a democracy in the UK and Silversurfers gives us oldies a good place to give our views.
LanceFogg
29th Oct 2019
7
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Oh PriscillaG!
Many thanks for the party political broadcast - which ever party that was.
May your politics of envy, hatred and misguidedness founder in the mire.
StephN1
29th Oct 2019
7
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The question was about over 70s being denied the vote because young people aged 16 plus think they know better.

The young people are the ones 'pitting' one generation against another.

We over 70s should have a right of reply.

It is nothing to do with the Tories - more likely Momentum.
ChristineL56
29th Oct 2019
13
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I am 75 and I wonder if the younger generation appreciate how long it took to get the vote for women and we now have a more democratic society. So why when things are not. Going the way you want you need to stop some people from voting. Why not say only remainers are allowed to vote
GillC11
29th Oct 2019
11
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Absolute nonsense, the older generation have more knowledge & sense in their little fingers than most of these 16-34’s.
RitaW5
29th Oct 2019
11
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Do the young have no ambition to be pensioners themselves?
Do they not aspire to have wisdom from experience over time , and observation of human behaviour , especially political ?
Didn’t we all think we “ knew it all” at 18, then 25, then 30, and at some point have a dawning that “ we knew nothing” ?
We elders are also scared for the future of the young and the choices they may make thinking only the young matter!
The young may be lucky, and be old one day. Not everyone is!
copper beeches
29th Oct 2019
3
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RenaP
29th Oct 2019
15
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If it wasn't for this older generation all of these 16 to 34 year olds would not be here to enjoy the freedom that our fathers, brothers and uncles fought and died for in two world wars.
Seahamsteve
29th Oct 2019
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I think people should be allowed to vote from 16 until death, but just as we educate 16 year olds we need to ensure that the aged population are kept up to date and taught to think wider than themselves.
Looking back, status quo, Empire supporting , Union flag waving is NOT a valid situation. I am approaching 70 but would always vote with consideration to my 40 year old kids and their families and what is best for them.
StephN1
29th Oct 2019
5
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Empire supporting? You have got a long memory.

There is nothing wrong in being British and supporting the Queen.

By the way, have you seen all those EU flags being waved about in Parliament Square? So glad Boris had the Union Jacks put back.

Are you suggesting elderly people don't watch the news? Many people have been watching with disgust at the antics of rebels in Parliament and refusal of the opposition to hold an election. There is constant talk of it at my local club.

Have you considered what the situation of Britain will be like when the EU has completed its 'closer union"? The EU plans to take over control of our armed forces and have one overall foreign policy and if we are still in the EU we will have no say in what happens.

Remain were denying the EU army idea and said Leave were making it up but the EU announced it so no more mention of it from Remain.
RogerW2
29th Oct 2019
10
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Does this include the House of Commons and the House of Lords?!!!
copper beeches
29th Oct 2019
4
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What a good point. Never thought of that!
blumist
29th Oct 2019
10
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The older generation are looking out for the younger generation.
They want their children, grandchildren, great grandchildren to live a positive, healthy, beneficial life so they have a right to vote on the future of our country.
skippysdad
29th Oct 2019
0
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you would think we won the war on our own, been watching ti much dad's army
Grandmacrafter
29th Oct 2019
8
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I find these results insulting and very sad. I am over 70 and voted to remain. I worked hard all my life to provide a decent upbringing for my children, and would be very hurt if any of them suggested I had no right to vote. I agree it is their future not ours but this is not the way forward. Us over 70 are already feeling excluded from many things, for example the NHS refusing operations on older people because it will be a waste of money. While I would be quite happy foregoing an operation if I could be assured that a child or a more needy younger person would get it, I know that wouldn’t be the case. What do these young people want compulsory euthanasia at 60 maybe, that would get rid of a lot of us.
Cariad66
29th Oct 2019
7
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Of course over 70s should vote! They have the most experience. The next step will be to eradicate older people over 70 for various reasons!
oscarsmum08
29th Oct 2019
12
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How arrogant and self interested! Whilst the survey is small, it does seem to reflect a general trend towards disenfranchising the senior generation. I wonder how those young people will feel when it's their turn to be booted out of mainstream society.
Whilst it is true that a higher proportion of the Leave votes during the referendum were cast by the older generation, I suspect that's because more of them made the effort to vote. I actively campaigned for the Leave vote in 2016 and met many young people who wanted us to wave bye bye to the EU and many older people who wanted us to remain tied to the EU.
Once we start to disenfranchise any part of our community we are on a slippery slope to the demise of democracy. As a counter argument, sadly not all young people will survive until they are 70. Many will die prematurely due to accidents or illnesses so are we going to start preventing people who are living with disabilities or chronic illnesses from casting their votes because they won't live long enough?
MaureenA4
29th Oct 2019
7
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Why not bring in euthanasia . Please those selfish spoilt generation they are unbelievable
Castlemay
29th Oct 2019
3
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What a stupid useless poll, the vote cannot be taken away from over 70s . If young people are asked a certain question then of course most of them respond in the same way due to their age, maybe if there was a poll asking over 70s a similar question about young people the result would be similar. I am over seventy but find most people my age cant understand technology, still use cash and dont keep up with advancements so then we wonder why young people have this image of us.
PeterH6
29th Oct 2019
4
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I am over 70, can use new technology, can use internet banking and purchasing, invest online, use an apple mobile phone. I have a computer, iPad, iPod, and a laptop. Most people of my age do understand new technology because we want to.
JenniferT57
29th Oct 2019
8
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There are people who seem determined to sow inter generational divisions. We have seen it in terms of accusations that we got our houses far cheaper, in spite of the far lower wages and crippling interest rates we endured to pay for them; pensions rates and other benefits we paid in for etc. There many (thankfully not all) younger people who are arrogant enough to believe they know far more than the older generation and gullible enough to swallow what they are told. They would do well to realise that it is the generation that is now 63 and older who voted us in back in the mid 1970s. These people are also the ones who remember life before we joined and that we were still able to go to Europe - even to live there - we had robust race relations legislation for the time and many of our Health and Safety laws were more stringent, in many cases, than European ones. Further, by their arguments, surely a very high number of MPs, including Mr Corbyn, would be forced into retirement
Champagne Chick
29th Oct 2019
7
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The youngsters today have their freedom because of the of the older people's actions and should have more respect for the sacrifices that have been on their behalf.
Veronica23
29th Oct 2019
8
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Older people have experience and they have more time to think about this sort of thing and weigh everything up to come to a sensible conclusion. Their vote should be welcomed.
JuneAA
29th Oct 2019
7
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What an absolute nerve ! I think that the age bracket that voted are too stupid, entitled and self obsessed to know their *rse from their elbow but I would not suggest that they should not be able to vote.
AnnabelK
29th Oct 2019
1
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As we wont let 16 year olds vote on the grounds of their age there may be an element of tit for tat here.
pink rose
29th Oct 2019
6
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This is a further sign of young people's lack of respect. We'll just strip older people of the rights which have been fought hard for.
AnnabelK
29th Oct 2019
0
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How old are you and what fighting did you do. Curious as I know many have campaigned across Africa for the vote
pink rose
29th Oct 2019
4
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I didn't say that I had fought, but people fought for the vote and died getting it!!
DerekA
29th Oct 2019
6
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These 'individuals'(polite version) should remember it was our generation and those before that earnt them the right to spout things like this with impunity in ways I hope they never have to! And though I wholeheartedly disagree with them I would defend their right to hold that view, I wonder if they would show me the same courtesy? In this day and age I somehow doubt it!...
AnnabelK
29th Oct 2019
-2
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Yet you do not campaign for 16 plus to vote? Same courtesy or lesser courtesy?
DerekA
29th Oct 2019
0
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Hi, No I don't campaign for 16+ to vote. At sixteen I had just enlisted and hadn't a clue what went on the world outside my own circle, what I read in the media, or saw on TV, I doubt much has changed except to add social media, x.box etc to the mix and they for the most part still don't have a clue...
CaroleB39
29th Oct 2019
4
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We live in a democracy!!! I don’t think I need say more. Society has gone mad, the tail is wagging the dog!
JanF
29th Oct 2019
5
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Not all young people are this biased. Unfortunately quite a large number don’t take any interest in politics and don’t use their vote when they get the opportunity. There is so much bias in the press and and tv and radio so where do they go for facts. How many MP’s would have to stand down if they loose their vote at 70 and what about the House of Lords ?
StephenA3
29th Oct 2019
11
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Ah the arrogance of youth. I remember it well, looking at all those old fuddy duddies in the senior management, keeping us young Turks from claiming the top jobs to which we were entitled. Now of course I am an old fuddy duddy and look at the naive youngsters trying to reinvent the wheel and thinking their new ideas will revolutionise everything when in fact they are just variants of things we tried 30 years ago. It’s a sad fact if life that old people DO understand young people because we were young ourselves but young people rarely appreciate old people because they haven’t walked in their shoes YET.
ElizaB
29th Oct 2019
5
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Well said! I was thinking exactly the same myself. It made me wonder, too, how would you tell the likes of David Attenborough that he no longer had the right to vote!!
MoiraG5
29th Oct 2019
9
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Some of today’s 16-34 year olds have no idea what this is all about. Especially the younger end of the scale. Most 16 year olds are irresponsible and think that the world owes them a living. God help this country if they are allowed to vote instead of the older generation.
LornaM54
29th Oct 2019
5
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I have never heard such a load of rubbish in my life ,we are the ones who have more knowledge in life ,seen a lot more how dare they vote us of as if we are a lot of senile old idiots ,most of us could run this country a lot better than the idiots who do now
Fab3052
29th Oct 2019
5
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How very liberal and democratic of the 16 - 34 age group who want the democratic rights removed from citizens of the 70+ age group. Perhaps the reality of living in today’s world has become clouded for them.
Robyn65
29th Oct 2019
1
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I'd like to know why these young people thought "older" generation shouldn't be allowed to vote. Brexit no doubt plays a major part. I pay taxes and am involved in many contraversial issues such as protecting green belt, climate change and the environment. My right to vote is something I value and am frustrated when people do not vote. Scotland allows 16 year olds to vote for Scottish Parliament and local elections. Rest of UK should do the same. Voting should be compulsory too to ensure proper reflection of the people's choice. Issues such as Brexit may well have had different outcome if everyone had to vote.
ann_192825
29th Oct 2019
7
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16 year olds are allowed to vote in Scotland only because the SNP Government thought their votes would help in the Independence Referendum. Fortunately the SNP didn’t get their way! I vote at every General election and at local elections. I am over 65 and don’t yet consider myself to be past my sell by date.
Robyn65
29th Oct 2019
1
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Yes that's why 16 year olds were given the vote. I was earning my own living at age 16 (as no doubt were many people), paying taxes, board and saving too. Definitely mature enough to have a vote then as now aged 65.
kimberleycats
29th Oct 2019
5
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There would have been no future if the over 70s had not fought in the war!
StephenA3
29th Oct 2019
2
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Ah yes but when they fought they were the young people of the time. Not many 70 year olds were climbing into the landing craft on D Day lol
Tillyanne
29th Oct 2019
3
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The older generation have a lot more life experience and will have seen things the young ones know nothing about
RoyT
29th Oct 2019
5
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Poll conducted by a clearly biased group and they ask 2000 people. Very representative sample.?? And then they come up with answers like that. You might have well asked if they thought euthanasia was a good thing for the over 70’s.
For the benefit of those who think it’s a good idea, just one thought. Who will you blame when it all goes wrong.
Poppie
29th Oct 2019
4
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In the same way as some young people have an odd outlook on life, so do some, but not all, older people. The one thing that us "oldies" do have is life experience and a lot of us have worked very hard in the process of gaining that. Of course we must have a vote and a say in things. We are supposed to be part of a democracy.
MrsPat
29th Oct 2019
5
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Looking at the House or Lords the answer would have to be yes. Most of them seem asleep.
Anjidav78
29th Oct 2019
8
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Ridiculous...is it true? This only shows the inexperience of youth. They haven't the knowledge and wisdom to make the right choices. It's like asking an 8 year old if they should be in charge of bedtime!
NeilJ23
29th Oct 2019
3
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This is just an article made to wind people up and it does. My personal opinion is that the right to vote should only go to British people and not the incomers.
AnnW89
29th Oct 2019
2
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Older people have far more knowledge about life in general, some of today’s generation have not lived long enough to think they can judge everybody’s judgment or experience
PatriciaW783
29th Oct 2019
2
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Young people need to remember, they might not have been here if it wasn't for the older generation. We only joined the EU, because of Margaret Thatcher, we managed without the EU, before then and we can again. Do the young people not hear the lies? Do they not read the news? They had better start to listen as one day they will be older too. All I ask is for a decent pension to live on, I've worked for it.
Jakki
29th Oct 2019
2
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I agree with your sentiment but correct you on the facts. It wasn't Margaret Thatcher who took us into the EU. Ted Heath joined us up to the EEC or Common Market as it was known then, in 1973 without any vote. The referendum in 1975 was asking if we wished to remain in it, with Harold Wilson being PM at the time. So the Conservatives & Labour were both supporting membership to the 'club' in the 1970's. I was just too young to vote at that time but remember both my parents & grandparents voting to leave. The result was about 67% remain. In fact over her time as PM, Margaret Thatcher became increasingly Eurosceptic & that was one of the reasons she was pressured to resign in 1990. Personally, I really hope we will still manage to leave on 31st October or failing that, by the 31st January. Can't come soon enough for me!
AnneF72
29th Oct 2019
7
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How dare the younger generation suggest that mature people with years of life experience not be allowed to vote.
LornaM54
29th Oct 2019
3
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Definetly not -, we have put plenty money into this country ,and could live for manyyears yet ,what a cheek .
EddieandLynnS
29th Oct 2019
3
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Typical. Why don't they have us put down when they think we have lost our minds after the age they are now. Get a bloody life
ElizaB
29th Oct 2019
2
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They should watch the film Logan's Run and then see if they think the same!!!
DeeD4
29th Oct 2019
4
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I pay and have paid my taxes, I am therefore entitled to a vote on who get to decide what to spend them on. If you have not paid in to the site through tax, you shouldn't have a vote.
Mickjohnsin
29th Oct 2019
4
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Ban all under 21s from the vote on everything, as they have had no life experience.
Zelley
29th Oct 2019
6
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These deluded, spoiled brats! They have no idea about how well off they have been in their lifetime, the choices they have, everything available at the touch of the button.....their impatience and lack of respect, it's appalling, why are any of us even bothering to think about this?
Richard52
29th Oct 2019
5
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So, another way of saying "I believe in democracy as long as you agree with me".Happy to go to the bank of mum and dad, etc, but you can't vote. Utterly ridiculous. maybe we should stop under 25s and all students from voting. Jeremy Corbyn is 70, so he couldn't vote (actually. maybe a good idea then, ha ha)
Pamela1
29th Oct 2019
3
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70 + are people too, and people with experience and a stake in their families, especially their grandchildren and great grandchildren.. should 16 plus be able to vote? Possibly but 18 is when people officially become adults. The issue with reducing the age when people can vote is when does it stop? A few years and it will be 14 year olds etc. As the age of consent is 16 then perhaps voting should be too?
Poppyrose
29th Oct 2019
7
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Don't be ridiculous, we should all be able to vote/comment, why should any decision just be the perogative of the young? Older people give a balanced viewpoint, younger give the more idealistic viewpoint and the result should come somewhere in the middle - I wish these people suggesting inverted discrimination would just stop and realise they are just so pompous!! Now watching the comments on GMB and the younger guest is a good case in point!! For heavens sake!!
Bald123
29th Oct 2019
-9
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I do think the youngsters should have their say. We have messed up enough. Time to pass on the baton in life.
Poppyrose
29th Oct 2019
3
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Historically every generation has cocked up which is why voting from both sides usually keeps the decision balanced.
Bald123
29th Oct 2019
-9
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Not a bad idea. look at Corbyn would you trust somebody like him to vote? I am saying that as a chap in his 60s. The world is turning the youngsters are taking over the world. Let them make decisions. We have cocked it up enough. It is time to pass on the baton to a more sensible generation.
Nannypink
29th Oct 2019
11
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Certainly not and neither should sixteen year olds be given the vote
LesleyGrif
29th Oct 2019
6
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My vote is for my childrens' and grandchildren's future with life experiences that young people have yet to learn. When I was young I thought I could rule the world !!!!!
pat123
29th Oct 2019
7
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Well, how damned democratic! I would like to know I can vote as long as I wish and am able thank you youngsters.
Munsterlander
29th Oct 2019
10
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Hold on. I am 76 and fully still have my marbles. I have paid my taxes and behaved like a good citizen. So now with a wealth of lifes knowledge I am being told "sorry old fella but as you have only a little time left you cannot vote". Rubbish-whats next if you have blue eyes you cannot vote?
Marley444
29th Oct 2019
7
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Interesting - Jeremy Corbyn is 70 so how would that work? I wonder how many other members of parliament are over 70?
Bald123
29th Oct 2019
3
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A large percentage and look at the mess they have got us into.

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