Should smoking be banned on British beaches?

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Brighton Beach could become the first beach in Britain to ban smoking. The city council will vote tomorrow on the decision.

Smoking is one of Brighton’s leading causes of premature death, and the proposed smoke-free areas are the places where children are most likely to be present.

The proposed plans appear designed to make the places like parks and and beaches, often very busy during school holidays, a safer place for children to play.

But pro-smoking lobby group Forest said the proposed move would not be fair and feel it is an ‘attack on personal freedom’ .

Director Simon Clark said: ‘Smokers should smoke responsibly, with consideration for others around them, but extending the smoking ban to open spaces is unnecessary and unjust.’

What are your views?  Should smoking on beaches be banned?  Should the bans be extended to other public outdoor spaces? Is this an attack on personal freedom?

Should smoking be banned on British beaches?

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SovereignInventory
24th Aug 2015
1
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I believe it should be banned from all public places.
Hawke008
14th Aug 2015
1
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Brighton Council, that's the one that wants to put up parking charges to deter people visiting the town and spending money in the local shops and restaurants when the sun shines! Loony tunes!
HJR58
1st Aug 2015
2
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As a non-smoker this is a step too far. I just wish smokers would not leave a mess around the area they use - often disgusting.
alisonmay
30th Jul 2015
4
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People cannot be restricted everywhere. I am not a smoker and neither is my husband. In the open air surely little harm can be done.
andbrown01
26th Jul 2015
1
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smoking is no good to anyone
Terryann
23rd Jul 2015
1
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I think smoking should be banned completely but knowing this will never happen I think it should be banned in all public places. I hate it when somebody is smoking out side and it blows my way and I get a mouthful!!! On beaches there are people with families, smokes often throw the cigarette end on the ground this can be dangerous and just filthy litter. Also other people can breath in the smoke. In fact I am a total anti smoker, it's a horrible habit that affects other as well as the smoker. It may bring in a lot of revenue for the government but I believe it could be proved it costs as much in health care.
recycledteen
22nd Jul 2015
1
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If smoking is so very bad why not ban it? Well we know this will not happen because of the loss of revenue to the Government.
This element of control is beginning to get out of hand.
Either smoking is dangerous or not!
Alcohol is dangerous as people are not aware of their actions but people still drink Alcohol!
Smoking does not define a person.
A parent on the beach enjoying time with their family ......Well done they deserve a cigarette. It is not a confined space.
Children are more at risk sitting in cars from exhaust fumes!
HJR58
1st Aug 2015
0
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Actually, smoking in cars with children in them is the worst thing - that's why it's been banned.
Hawke008
14th Aug 2015
0
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The final comment by recycledteencomment was about children and exhaust fumes, not smoking in a car.
robc54
22nd Jul 2015
-1
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Well magsamum, every smoker I speak to NEVER throws their butts on the ground so who is creating this mess that costs councils millions every year to clean up? Smokers generally have low personal standards and don't mind their breath, clothes, furniture, houses, cars and the people around them smelling like stale ashtrays so it is plain that they have no qualms about littering either. Oh, and what causes lit cigarettes to jump from a drivers hand and be deposited into the slipstream then? The sooner it is banned from all public places the better (and while driving as well)
I like the idea of banning it from beaches as our local beach, which is popular, is covered in dog ends and dog muck - but that's another matter.
Roger1946
21st Jul 2015
3
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It is not just the stupidity of smoking and the self inflicted damage they cause that ties up resources in hospitals it is the litter they leave behind.
Whilst I appreciate only a certain element of smokers disgustingly throw their packets around nearly all, when away from an ashtray" leave their cigarette butts on "the floor" for someone else to clean up.
Hospitals should be the first to ban smoking anywhere within their grounds.
magsamum
22nd Jul 2015
2
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THEY? We are human beings you do realise this. As for the cost to the NHS if you can name me one other group of people that actually contributes Billions more in tax for the NHS than it takes out I will be amazed. Some of the comments on here regarding people who smoke are hugely offensive. Why do non smokers assume that we "all" just dump or butts. Do you all as clean living human beings drop your waste everywhere. Do non of you have any vices that you wish you didn't? We never hear how much sport injuries cost the NHS. I wonder why that is. We do actually pay our council tax, the tax that pays to maintain the very beaches,streets,roads ,public buildings , that if you had your way we would not be able to have access to. I am a tax paying citizen of this country and I have as much right to enjoy it's open public spaces as you do. What's going to be next smell detectors ? I am NOT breaking the law by smoking. What happened to the mad rush of non smokers that where going to be rushing to the pubs and restaurants ? Over 23 thousand have closed since the smoking ban. Now is that because we're also alcoholics or maybe just maybe we are actually more sociable.
Katypee
1st Aug 2015
1
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Oh well said magsamum, couldn't have put it better myself, incidentally , I am a non smoker, but do believe in a choice.
silveringwithstyle
26th Jul 2015
3
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I'm an ex smoker (my choice) and hate the smell of cigarettes now. Having said that, I completely agree with you. This nanny state is becoming ridiculous. Can't smoke inside, can't smoke outside, can't actually do anything without someone protesting! A beach is outside and any smoke will be vastly diluted by the sea breezes. Some health person admitted it on TV the other day. Ok,if the beach is rammed full (how often does that happen in this country??) then smokers should be considerate of others. Come on folks, smokers are people - not targets!
tripper123
21st Jul 2015
3
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I love to sit and watch the sea and smoking a ciggy is a large part of the pleasure.
alexander1
21st Jul 2015
4
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Most beaches I visit in this country are filthy with loads of litter and the favorite is nappies !!! Do we ban babies from the beach ! I don't smoke but I hate this dictatorship
Boriginal
21st Jul 2015
4
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You'd have to ban chewing gum, sugary drinks, alcohol etc etc!!
Roger1946
21st Jul 2015
0
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Chewing gum yes but only because too often it is spat out onto the pavement and if you have ever had the displeasure of trying to clean it off your shoes you would equally want a ban.
Jaxkc
21st Jul 2015
4
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I am not a smoker but for goodness sake this is going too far.
Baxi
21st Jul 2015
4
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I'm not a smoker but this really is the nanny state going to extremes. I had the cigarette buts and smoke blowing my way, but even so Brighton Beach is a public place and we all have to live together. A bit of tolerance goes a long way!

And, anyway, how on earth will they enforce this?! Introduce anti smoking police patrols?
janetann
21st Jul 2015
-2
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What other unhealthy habits should we be exposing our children to?
Issy
21st Jul 2015
4
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I am a non -smoker but this is getting ridiculous this smacks of a dictatorship nanny state please let people think for themselves and hopefully with common sense as otherwise we will all become just trained robots with no human feelings or thoughts whatsoever and lack in caring
tips23a
21st Jul 2015
2
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I'm a non smoker, but we can't do this / go there/ eat this food/ that food....People have a choice, but they don't have to be on ''my'' bit of beach. Like pubs, have an area, the worst bit of the beach, and they can smoke all they like. I'll take a chance on the wrong wind direction.
Ren
21st Jul 2015
4
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I stopped smoking 12 years ago. Family members have died from cancer. I will still say to all of those who wish to ban smoking on beaches.... Do you drive cars? Do you use aerosols? Deodorants? Hairspray? Bleach? Air fresheners? .... And the list is endless..... You are causing harm to everyone in your close vicinity including your pets, and to the environment as a whole. Pot, kettle maybe? You have the choice to move away from a smoker lessening any affects. I can't seem to find a place without car fumes, chem trails from planes etc etc.
No, it is not ok to smoke in close proximity to another person, but out in the open? Then ban everything that causes harm especially car fumes that do much more damage. Let's be realistic here.
Hawke008
14th Aug 2015
1
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Great comment and a worthy reminder of all the other pollutants that the average citizen allows.
magsamum
26th Jul 2015
3
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Thank you at last someone on my wave length, we all pollute, yes I still smoke but like most smokers I try to be as considerate as I can. I am sick of being painted as if I'm a horrible filthy person. My habit is horrible I know that, but I'm not.
tel-boy
20th Jul 2015
2
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Drinking is causing more problems in the country now than smoking. There are 180 volcanos erupting every single day on this planet pushing out more toxic fumes than all the cars and cigaret smokers on this planet. The Icelandic volcane on its last eruption last year spewed out more toxins in 3 days than humans have caused it 100 year, that includes smokers and vehicles. Its all to do with money for the government coffers. So, all the beaches in the world are filled with deadly toxins and and less than 00000.1% is from smoking cigaretts. The beaches are filthy when people leave their rubbish and the tide take the rubbish out to sea killing and maiming sea animals, so we should ban anyone taking carier back, tishues and anything that will damage the animals in the sea. For goodness sake get real and get a life.
CruiseLady
20th Jul 2015
2
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Quite frankly, I wish smoking would be banned altogether. I understand that years ago the dangers were not known. I live with a smoker, who comes from a family of smokers. For many years he smoked in the house....we did not know about passive smoking Now, he does smoke outside, but the smell lingers on him and his clothing......it is embarrassing socially, as when he comes in from smoking, the smell is still there, and if in a restaurant it wafts across the table to others in the group....I know they find it distasteful. It is a drug/stimulant.......and the effects on those connected with smokers is quite abhorrent. One family member is now undergoing tests for a lung tumour. This gentleman was a smoker for many years. We are all quite devastated. I do believe in personal choice, up to a point, but I think smokers are in denial about the hazards of doing so. One friend who was a smoker happened to visit a hospital ward to see a patient suffering from the effects of smoking. He was so horrified, that from that moment he never lit up again. Most sensible people are against "drugs" as we know them, and alcohol in excess has destroyed many a relationship. When will the penny drop? Our village street is littered with stubs, and the bus stop areas accumulate "mounds", even when there is a bin nearby. Oh dear, this is a rant, but from my point of view I am pleased I have done it.
Munsterlander
20th Jul 2015
2
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I agree with this as it is really harmful. I did used to smoke Marlboro myself 30 years ago and while I enjoyed it especially with a pint of bitter I am so glad now I stopped smoking. Its just so harmful in the long run
magsamum
20th Jul 2015
11
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Yet again smokers are the easy target, you will get more pollution from the steady stream of holiday makers traveling to the beach, but that doesn't count because it's your car, your van, your bus, your train. The non polluters that you non smokers are. With regards to the rubbish it's tiny compared to pop bottles, beer cans crisp packets BBQ etc. Yes I smoke I also pay massive amounts of tax, my smoking has never stopped me working. Smokers contribute billions more to the NHS than they take out, but the obese, most of which will leave their rubbish behind because there too fat to pick it up are costing the NHS billions they can't work because they are too fat, they need millions spent on being educated on how to eat healthy foods, you wouldn't dare tell them to get of YOUR beach . Many millions of people like me started smoking way before we knew all the risks, are you really prepared to tell an 80 year old that they are not allowed on the beach that they fought to keep safe for you because it offends you right to fresh air. They've already been isolated from the social clubs and pubs now their not allowed a deck chair a beer and a tab. Thanks Brighton council. You've just proven the hypocrisy of PC brigade.
seaslave
20th Jul 2015
14
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This idea beggars belief!!! I am a non smoker, but c'mon guys, just how far are you gonna push these people? Where the hell are they gonna go??? I can't stand to be sat beside a screaming brat, (and I'm sure you've all got one) but I would never expect them to be banned from the beach just because they upset me. This is political correctness gone berserk! I do think the mess is an issue, but even then, just look at all the other junk left on the beach! I think they should change the colour of the filters to a bright colour which is clearly visible in the sand. The filter colour now soon becomes hard to see once discarded. I can't believe some people can be so petty and immature as to think they can bully people into banishment because they smoke. Wonder if they'll ban drinks, sandwiches and people laughing too loud in case it disturbs the beach neighbours.

.........and at the end of the day, you could always move......
michael523
20th Jul 2015
0
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Just left the beach in Bridlington couple of families with children next to us never a cigarette out of their mouth had to leave as the smoke was blowing our way
Jangle
20th Jul 2015
2
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I wish smoking was banned in ALL public places. If people want to contaminate the air, let it just be in their own homes and only there if there are no children.
Munsterlander
20th Jul 2015
1
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It is amazing how smoking is becoming less and less acceptable. Probably a good thing for us all in the long run
magsamum
20th Jul 2015
5
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Wilf
22nd Jul 2015
2
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Yes we all drive and I do agree with what you are implying that we are all polluters. It looks like diesel is the new enemy harming us all! . I am an ex smoker as well and used to enjoy it but stopped due to health
Roger1946
22nd Jul 2015
-1
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We have to drive or use public transport we don't have to smoke.
Wilf
20th Jul 2015
2
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Yes I think it should only because it stops fag butts being all over the beach and when you are relaxing in the sea air why should you have wafts of smoke blowing over you!

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