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Should Strictly introduce same-sex couples?

Judge Robert Rinder has said same-sex couples being introduced to Strictly Come Dancing could be “game-changing”.

The TV star, who finished fifth on the show in 2016, was speaking amid rumours that the BBC could make the move for the forthcoming series.

Speaking to the Daily Telegraph, Rinder welcomed the possibility.

Judge Robert Rinder

Judge Robert Rinder has welcomed the possibility of same-sex couples appearing on Strictly Come Dancing

He said: “Look, it would be great if that happens because that visibility really does matter. Strictly is a big part of some people’s lives and for a young gay person going through (a difficult time), they could see that it can be fun, joyous and OK.

“People say society is post-gay, but there are places in London where it is still unsafe to hold the hand of your partner, so it could be game-changing.”

What do you think? Should Strictly Come Dancing break with tradition and introduce same-sex couples onto the show? 

 

Should Strictly introduce same-sex couples?

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SissieSis
4 days ago
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I’m sorry but I’ve lost interest in Strictly. I enjoyed it in the beginning but not now.
KatrinaO2
4 days ago
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Definitely! It should be a given and happen ASAP .
Onecott
6 days ago
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Not sure, would they take it in turns to be the lead.?
AlisonP24
6 days ago
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No, not because I am against same sex couples, as I most certainly am not. It will not have the same impact and elegance if same sex couples are introduced. Sorry I must just be old fashioned.
Eurovisionfan
13th Aug 2018
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I'm so sorry to see that so many people on this forum are against a format where it's simply a matter of deciding who leads and who follows, regardless of gender.

Israel, the US and more recently Italy have all had same sex couples on their shows and the world hasn't fallen in.

I'm particularly surprised by these views as we often see two women dancing together on holidays such as cruises as there aren't enough men to go around.

As a married same sex couple who have been together for thirty years, views like this make us quite wary on holiday about dancing together, although when we've done so, no-one bats an eyelid. Why anyone would stop watching Strictly, or this is even an issue is beyond me.
Wilf
13th Aug 2018
1
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I don't mind at all and from the look of the poll half of people voting don't either. This is 2018 in the UK there is freedom of choice for everyone and all the old issues with discrimination have been or are being battered down which is good news for everyone. I do not think you should worry about dancing together at all-good for you both I say!
jeanmark
14th Aug 2018
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Eurovisionfan, not all of us have problems with same sex couples appearing on the programme or in any other walk of life. What is interesting is the number of comments made about two men dancing together, appearing to forget that females are also included in same sex couples.

I have to be honest, I wouldn't stop watching the programme if I had started to watch it in the first place!
bertie123
10th Aug 2018
1
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It would. Not be the same,I see a couple a man and. A woman ,I don’t think I would watch it
Darkstar
8th Aug 2018
2
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No. The format is perfectly alright as it is. Wouldn't have seen this with Peggy Spencer formation team.
LornaT13
7th Aug 2018
5
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As a huge loyal fan of Strictly, I really do not want to see either two men or two women dancing together because the beauty of the dances is that there are men and women performing them together. There are of course gay dancers of both sexes who teach and who take part and they have happily danced with the opposite sex since time immemorial. I therefore want to continue to see male and female couples dancing together, no matter what their sexual preferences are because that is what dancing is all about - men and women performing together. If I am forced to have to watch same sex couples performing in this great show then unfortunately I will have to change channels because the real essence of strictly will be lost. Please DO NOT change the format of Strictly for the purposes of the PC brigade!
viking
7th Aug 2018
4
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I am sure that many of the silver haired silver surfers would love to express their true feelings on this subject but are precluded from saying what they really feel because of the backlash from the minority who seem to dig up strange findings to back up their views..
jeanmark
7th Aug 2018
0
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And what strange findings would they be Viking?
Wilf
13th Aug 2018
1
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I disagree Viking I think most people on here say it as it is. Its freedom of speech-one of the best things about Blighty plus the fact that every single Brit seems to have an opinion which is a hoot and makes us such an interesting country! My view is I don't care at all if same sex couple dance-everyone to their own I say!
Moomytree
7th Aug 2018
6
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It works as it is, it doesn’t need to be changed. I will stop watching a programme that I really look forward to, each year, not because I am homophobic, bu because it would change the whole ambiance of the show.
xpuffyx
7th Aug 2018
4
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If they do introduce it I for one would never watch it again.
AlexandraD
6th Aug 2018
1
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Who cares what sex they are if they're great dancers?! Strictly Come Dancing... Live and let live!
Wilf
13th Aug 2018
1
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I totally agree with you.
Secretum
6th Aug 2018
3
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No thank you, it works nicely as it is..... if this introduced I for one will stop watching.
DIAMONDLIN
6th Aug 2018
8
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Hope it doesn't change. Can't picture a female lifting another female up in the air. Mind boggles.
ITSANDYC
6th Aug 2018
9
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Strictly is an entertainment show not a forum for any particular group, in case your wondering I am not homophobic in fact I have a gay child that I love very much. I just think that adding same sex couples will not add or improve what is already a great show.
JoM9
6th Aug 2018
5
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No. Leave it as it is. Men and women dance together, The BBC tries too hard to be too PC. I wouldn't continue to watch.
tigerfeet
6th Aug 2018
5
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Strictly is great as it is hope it never changes it wouldn't be the same if it did ….. I would stop watching it that's for sure
Pmk
6th Aug 2018
4
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Quite satisfied to watch as it is.
Would be of no benefit to the show, and only cause trouble.
Bethmac
6th Aug 2018
4
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Does this also mean a same sex couple would have to win because of gender equality.I wish we,who are not same sex couples,would be given gender equality but face it BBC will never treat us as equal.
jeanmark
6th Aug 2018
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Surely that's the problem Bethmac, we are given gender equality by the BBC, if you are part of the LGBT community you face a great deal of prejudice which the BBC are trying to address.
HappyHippie
6th Aug 2018
2
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I think it would be boring, most of us love to see the outfits they wear, the lovely dresses, two men in suits.. very dull
jeanmark
6th Aug 2018
0
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But same sex couples would include females so the dresses would remain.
Secretum
6th Aug 2018
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Sorry I ticked the instead of agree with you.
Ppaintain
6th Aug 2018
9
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Some things are ok as they are. We don't allow children on the show because it's a dance show for adult men and women , it's incisive of all abilities . Not everything in the world needs changing to include all , some things are ok as they are.
AnnS28
6th Aug 2018
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It is a dancing competition not a dating show. (although some years it is hard to tell the difference)! No celebrity should object to dancing with someone of the opposite gender.
If any of the professionals would like a partner of the same gender it could be a possibility but no need to be a requirement of every series.
It would be great to see it introduced in the professional dance routines.
Munsterlander
6th Aug 2018
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When I was a lad at the discos many many women used to dance together for one simple reason most of the chaps were hopeless including my goodself. I would enjoy watching something a bit different. I do not really watch the show but my wife loves it so I usually half watch as I am reading on of my books. It is all good entertainment and I can understand the beeb need to change things about or their programmes all get a bit stale.
Billythequiche
7th Aug 2018
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Memories are made of this but I don't think half a dozen girls dancing round their handbags would be riveting entertainment.
ChristineN6
6th Aug 2018
8
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Do not change this lovely programme Traditional dancing is with male/female couples. It just wouldn't be right with same sex couples. I wouldn't watch it anymore if that happens.
Lexie78
6th Aug 2018
8
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I wonder what proportion of the population is comprised of "same sex couples"? I might suggest 1% or less? The publicity that they generate and receive is "way out" and far in excess of their relevance to every day life issues. What about disabled on Strictly...wheel chair Tango would be good?... and far more relevant in terms of "proportion"?
jeanmark
6th Aug 2018
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Well latest figures from the Office for National Statistics believe that 2% of the population - that is more than a million people - identifying themselves as lesbian, gay or bisexual. Although it is suggested the number could be much higher as many will not 'come-out' because of societies reaction. I agree having disables people complete could be one more suggestion, but surely it should be based on all sections of society not just by 'proportion'. One also has to consider other 'marginalised' groups are usually visible, being part of the LGBT community isn't.
LornaT13
7th Aug 2018
1
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I’m sorry but dancing to the professional standard that is required on Strictly by its very nature only lends itself to extremely physically fit people therefore if you have any type of physical disability you would NOT be physically able to compete at the level and if you are fit enough then clearly you’re not disabled!! I love to watch professional dancing and everything they do and they have gay and lesbian professionals and competitors to dance every year so I really do not understand WHY we need to see any type of any so-called “minority” group on there. The format works perfectly well as it is so if it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it!!

I’m sure I’ll get a huge backlash from all the do-gooders now but I really don’t care because my opinion is as valid as anyone else’s whether you agree with it or not and my understanding is that the UK is still a free country which gives us freedom of speech!
jeanmark
7th Aug 2018
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You make good points Lorna and you are right, we are all entitled to our opinions, they are just that, "A view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge".

People with a disability range across a wide spectrum, not all are physically limited. Those in wheelchairs do participate in dance but you are correct, the present format would not be appropriate and changes would have to be met. This would change the format of a successful programme. My point was more to do with marginalisation of certain sections of society because of who they are not what they can do and possibly based on their 'proportion' in society. I totally agree that ballroom dancing in all its forms is better suited having male and female partners and most of my friends in the LGBT community would agree with that. As you have said, if it isn't broke, don't fix it, although I do believe it is right and proper to explore if change would enhance a programme. I think Robert Rinder would be quite amused at the discussion this has generated.
LornaT13
7th Aug 2018
2
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Yes I think he would - and he was an amazing dancer during his time on there. I celebrate the LGBT community and it is right they are equally considered the same as everyone else but I just love to watch male/female couples dance together because for me that is the essence of dance with all the passion and emotions that dance brings, such as the Argentine Tango for example!

Dance is a wonderful for of exercise for many disabled people but my point is that to compete on such a show as Strictly, you really have to be physically fit and have the ability to meet all the challenges. I think it would be amazing to have a dance show specifically for disabled people where they are able to perform at the level they are able to do whilst showcasing their talent because when you see the Paralympic Games that so many disabled people participate in, there is certainly much scope for the disabled to dance. We had Jonny Peacock in last year if you recall, a professional athlete with one leg who learned to dance to a very high standard, obviously he was exceptionally fit and had the stamina required.

There have been many gay celebrities over the years on Strictly, both male and female and also professional dance teachers, not to mention judges. I think Strictly is already very inclusive with different age groups, nationalities and people from every walk of life. A truly wonderful formula which has just got better and better of the 14 years it has been broadcast.
GladysFriday
6th Aug 2018
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Although I have no personal issue with this, my husband, (who I love and who is a star in every other way), is a victim of his upbringing and, although he tries, he simply cannot come to terms with openly gay couples. I have already had to give up watching so many otherwise great programmes because I'm sick of hearing his grumbling and growling. I adore Strictly so this possible move makes me very sad as I will have to stop watching that too. I know it's my husband's problem - nobody else's - and I could simply tell him to hush up and put up but I done it so many times and it wears me down. PRETTY PLEASE, Strictly, leave the 'Normalisation' for the rest of the programme planners. Thank you.
Wilf
6th Aug 2018
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Apparently they have same sex couple in dancing on TV in other countries. Who cares at the end of the day its all entertainment. Let the BBC do it and everyone can enjoy it
Allywatt
6th Aug 2018
5
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If this happens, I will never watch again
SueC62
6th Aug 2018
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The programme isn't really my thing but occasionally I do watch it and admire the interaction of the couple from a technical viewpoint. I can't see what difference the gender of the dance partners will make to this. Only the outfits will be different but that shouldn't be what the programme is about. I'm more concerned at the 'anti pc' (for want of a better description) views on here, which is making me question if I want to be associated with Silversurfers if that is representative of the demographic.
jeanmark
6th Aug 2018
4
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SueC, I don't think the comments are representative of the demography of this site, but it is a site that people can air their views. We are discussing a TV programme in which a number of viewers would not like to see the format change and that may be more related to the perception that dance, on the whole, is usually between a male and female.

I think people blame the 'pc brigade' for anything that does not fit into their view of the world. Fortunately the LGBT community now have a voice and they want to be heard, a bit like the voice of women 100 years ago in wanting to be equal. No doubt that would have been blamed on the 'PC Brigade' had it been around then!!
Wilf
6th Aug 2018
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SueC I think for many people they are just comfortable with it as it is and as we know most folks don't like change! My view is the vast majority of Brits (including those over 50 us "Silversurfers") are a very very tolerant bunch.
JudithH75ody
7th Aug 2018
1
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Something askew here, I think most people just feel that the ball room dancing style is represented by a female role and a male role, with quite different "duties" as the dance partner. Two men or two women would simply not look right in any shape or form in these dances. But I do think there is sometimes too much emphasis on being politically correct with regard to acceptance of peoples choice of sexual preference and gender etc. etc. I have completely lost the number of titles added now!!! As I said previously I have no problem with whatever a persons choice is - but this dance programme needs to stay as it is.
jeanmark
7th Aug 2018
2
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I agree with your sentiments Judith, I also get a little tired of some people believing that the 'PC brigade' must be in use when anyone or organisations try to treat everyone with respect and equality. I do understand when some believe that the LGBT community appear to have a loud voice, but considering their lifestyle was illegal until the late 60's is it any wonder that now they have a voice they want to use it. I have already mentioned that 10o years ago women were treated the same when they wanted to be equal to men! Read Diane Atkinson's book "Rise up women - the remarkable lives of the suffragettes" to get insight into how badly they were treated by the authorities and society in general.

Having said all that I do believe ballroom dancing makes sense with male and females being partners.
Kes
6th Aug 2018
17
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Why??? The BBC is being led a merry dance by the PC brigade. I think it highly likely that they will seriously spoil a popular and entertaining show. And why..... just to highlight same sex couples in the name of equality and diversity. Tick boxing gone mad.
Suedal
6th Aug 2018
9
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It is an entertainment show that is loved by millions, there is absolutely no need for politically correct gestures like this. Let’s just enjoy it as it is. If they do this, it could make me not want to watch it in future.
molly25
10th Aug 2018
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a show watched by normal people. all this thanks to BLAIR
Alicia
6th Aug 2018
2
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NO but as I never watch it then it will not matter ! 🙁
Suzysweet
6th Aug 2018
12
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I think it looks odd and unnatural. I also think that same sex couples are already too visible. I'm not opposed to them in general but don't want it ramming down my throat all the time. I don't think I would continue to watch on Strictly. Sorry.
PamO7
6th Aug 2018
3
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No No No, I don't. want to see same sex couples dancing. I would never watch Strictly again,I do not want that coming into my living room.It should be as it was in the 1950 kept under wraps not boasted about it is against Gods laws.
Tubby
5th Aug 2018
10
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Well really,competition dancing is between male and female couples and should remain as such,I for one would not watch anymore absolutely bonkers idea.
Sandymo
5th Aug 2018
7
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I would prefer dancers to be a male and a female together. I would not watch the programme if the couple were the same sex
viking
4th Aug 2018
3
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Bz, Bz Bz !! A hornets nest has been poked !!!!!

For me what really matters here is, will the BBC look at Rinder then look at possible viewing ratings. If it is a yes to Rinder's suggestion, then all this talk about if it is PC or not, will just disappear out of the window.
Viewing figures will count together with the export potential for extra cash for the BBC because of the dramatics.
panamakid
4th Aug 2018
7
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No, dancing together has always been between couples of the opposite sex especially when it comes to competition standards.
RichardT1
4th Aug 2018
6
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I think dance is for male and female couples and to allow gay couples to compete would spoil the show, I for one would probably stop watching the programme.
JudithH75ody
4th Aug 2018
9
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I have no issue with anyone's preference of life partner, but I think dance was designed for a male role and a female role, so I would prefer to see men and women continuing to partner each other.
dancingcruiser
7th Aug 2018
1
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Wasn't marriage supposed to be the same, this was forced on the general public, so same sex dancing will soon follow, whatever the majority of people want. If it happens on the next strictly show then you can bet the BBC will fiddle the voting numbers to make sure a same sex couple win
Lindyq
4th Aug 2018
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would certainly add a new demention to the show. Interesting.
Yodama
4th Aug 2018
0
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It's dancing!!
Over the centuries men have danced with men and women with women. Don't know what the fuss is about.
It's all about the love and beauty of the dance and glamorous glitzy costumes ( men and women alike.)
I think the sexy Latin American dances such as the Rumba, Paso Doble, Samba etc wouldn't seem the same somehow with same genders performing them, although it is my preference to see male and female performing these dances..
But then- times they are a-changing.
Lorraine
3rd Aug 2018
7
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If they are that set on change why not have a programme completely devoted to same sex couples?
Raindrop
4th Aug 2018
1
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Thats another good idea.
Lorraine
3rd Aug 2018
11
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I haven't got a problem with same-sex partnerships I just don't want it shoved down my throat all the time. I watch the programme for enjoyment not to comment on a couple's sexual orientation. be it straight or gay.
Margaret Hart
3rd Aug 2018
5
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I was told I had an answer but it appears I haven’t. Who was talking about objecting to two men dancing - from the outset this has been about changing Strictly not whether gays should be on or not. When I was a teenager you,would see a load of girls dancing round their handbags but that didn’t make them gay they were just young people on a night out And often boys would go over and ask them to,dance which is completely different. Here they are takk8 g of altering a very successful programme for no other reason than to make another point. Can nothing stay as it is?
RogerO
3rd Aug 2018
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Totally agree with the dancing round hand bags but also dancing with their mate, they always went around in twos, the boys were not confident in their dancing ability so were frightened to ask a girl to dance, until the last dance of cause. Trouble with 2 girls dancing together came later when the one who always took the male part met man who could actually dance, rare thing in the late 50's early 60's but we got by . didn't we.
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Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
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Jorid - that is sad
Wrinkly One
3rd Aug 2018
5
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I think it would make judging far more difficult as the status quo would not be maintained....
Wilf
3rd Aug 2018
2
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But it would put more variety in it with lots of very different couples-worth seeing what its like
Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
2
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I didn't vote because I don't have strong views but what they could do is introduce one of the two-man couples dancing the Argentine tango. This is accepted in South America even in competitions. If you expect to see lots of girly moves dream on. Use the Internet and you will see what I mean. I have men dancing in the street in Argentina and no one bats an eyelid. Tango Rojo are two butch guys who do a quite aggressive tango - fantastic. Yes I'm jealous
Billythequiche
3rd Aug 2018
4
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Only if it was a separate show. It doesn't make you a bigot if you do not wish to watch same sex couples dancing. I fear the politically correct commissars would take over and demand a proportion of gay, trans, none-binary?, pink, grey, green or any other group that they think they can exploit for gain or fame.
csat48
3rd Aug 2018
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PLUM
3rd Aug 2018
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Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
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Billy - You a bigot - my three year old grandchild doesn't think so
Lionel
3rd Aug 2018
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That's not an appropriate response to Billy.

An immediate retraction is required.
Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
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OK, Lionel are you Billy's keeper? I'm not a nasty person but I hate narrow-minded people. I'm sorry that he can't see that or you. I apologise and I'm sorry for the both of you.
Wilf
3rd Aug 2018
7
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Hank & Billy-the thing I like about Silversurfers as opposed to other sites I am on as well like the Times and Telegraph and dare I say it...The Mail...(but only when I want to wind someone up!)...is how many lovely and sensible people there are on here with terrific debates. I think the wonderful thing about these forums is everyone has an opinion-we are GB and we fought for freedom of speech but I do not think insulting each other is the way to go.
Lionel
3rd Aug 2018
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Thank you for your sorrows for Billy and I. Sincerely, ~I hope hat sorrow continues.

For myself, I wouldn't care to use the word hate in any connection; it doesn't become a man but it's use says so much about him.
Lionel
3rd Aug 2018
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I quite agree Wilf, but neither will I tolerate another well meaning member being so insulted by the use of the word bigot. Double minded! This is Surfers, it just not done. Surfers, as Sally says is a safe space for us and I treasure it.
Wilf
3rd Aug 2018
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I totally agree Lionel-it is a safe space I could not have put it better myself. Freedom of speech!
Lionel
3rd Aug 2018
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Wilf, at the risk of offending I may only say, Amen ... so being it!
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Thank you Wilf for this valued comment 🙂
Wilf
3rd Aug 2018
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Wilf
3rd Aug 2018
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Lionel
3rd Aug 2018
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May I intrude ...?

If we, to some extent, police ourselves an order may be established. But we will always need the Editor's final opinion as occurred a couple of years ago with Celt.
Dougie123
4th Aug 2018
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Hi Lionel ... the use of BIGOTED (as used) referred to an attitude. Sometimes, when a "well-meaning member" writes comments that are insulting to those who happen to be "gay", they must expect their publicly published attitude to be challenged. Freedom of speech and all that!

Lionel, we "well-meaning members" are also imperfect human beings. Criticisms of our publicly expressed opinions are justified and, will cause reactions. After all, you have taken pen to paper to express your feelings about what I wrote - although you appear to have missed the point.

Lionel, if our public behaviour or published opinions reflect a bigoted outlook then we need to reflect and understand how our words paint us as people/members. Our history drips with the blood of bigotry, does it not. Have we not learnt our lesson?

Nonetheless, the era of "gay bashing" in any form is not acceptable. Those of us who stand by others who have a different sexual orientation will continue to confront publicly expressed bigotry. People are DIFFERENT - we need to accept this (at least publicly!) Enough is enough!
Dougie123
4th Aug 2018
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Well said, Hank999! Lionel means well but appears to miss the plot.
Hank999
4th Aug 2018
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I didn't mean to stir up a hornets' nest. I guess I react differently to certain words. If someone calls me a bigot I stop and analyse what I've said rather than taking offence. I've been pulled up for saying I hate something. would 'dislike' be more acceptable both words mean the same thing but the latter might appear the softer option. Name calling 'I extremely dislike' which sounds ridiculous when hate is more appropriate. Bad language I dislike, especially from women now there must be a label for that.
Billythequiche
4th Aug 2018
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Nice one Hank999, though I usually get a reasoned argument when I make a controversial comment. Without the childish mud slinging, which is better left to Twitter, do you think that I have no right to my opinion or the right to choose what I prefer to watch. A great number of highly intelligent people use this forum and I, along with many others, are quite prepared to have our opinions criticised and even have our views modified. I don't think cheap humour is a game changer.
Billythequiche
4th Aug 2018
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Bit unfair on Lionel, have a pop at me by all means but please do not spread the bile elsewhere. At least your ''apology'' made me smile, you obviously have a sense of humour. No need to feel sorry for me, I certainly don't feel sorry for myself.
Please feel free to challenge me on anything I put on here, that's healthy, but between you and me please. I don't mean privately, I have nothing to hide from scrutiny by my peers; just don't insult them please.
Hank999
4th Aug 2018
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Billy, I've never said people shouldn't have an opinion. People make accusations that just aren't true. I've probably overstepped the mark in some peoples view but as I've explained If someone calls me a name I don't automatically take offence - I look to see what I've said to see if it warrants name calling. You have exaggerated something I must have said about your rights to say or watch what you like. I would NEVER suggest that.
Billythequiche
4th Aug 2018
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Whoa, If you are offended by what I said I sincerely apologise it was just a choice of viewing preferences. I also do not want to watch:
Football, Rugby, Horse racing, Basketball, Love Island, BB, TOWIE, The Guardian.
Does that insult everyone who does?
Does it mean that the any comment you make has to be vetted for political correctness?
You are absolutely at liberty to take me to task if you think I am offensive or had made an error of fact. You have absolutely no right to deny me the freedom to choose what I wish to watch.
Billythequiche
4th Aug 2018
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Fair comment. I am not offended I assure you, I was just surprised by the way it came across.
At times I feel under criticism from all sides if I express a conservative (small c) opinion or preference. Not paranoid but irritated. There seems to be no room for divergence from the latest fad in thinking.
I welcome your comments as well as those who share mine, that is a sign of our age, as well as a leaning to traditionalism.
Hank999
4th Aug 2018
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Billy, I blossomed in the flower power era. I loved the fact people were suddenly saying yes I want to be controversial. I loved going home to my conservative parents wearing platform shoes, prissy seethrough shirts and trousers so tight I could hardly breathe. Sex that was seen to be a form of enjoyment rather than the fun of the married. I never touched drugs. I would walk through the Shepherds market in the evening and a pimp would emerge, twice my size and I would always say not tonight darling and I would meet my lady friend at the nearest underground station.
I was harmless but unlike a lot of people, I ventured beyond the front gate. I even worked for a lady who ran a lesbian club. Jo was A1 and the girls were great.
Billythequiche
5th Aug 2018
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Sounds like you had fun, playing for several groups and riding with the rockers, so did I. I also shared your attitude.
My comment was meant to say that, along with football, BB, TOWIE, Love Island and others, a programme as suggested would not be on my preferred viewing list. I am completely ambivalent and frankly disinterested in peoples preferred lifestyles. I know that being seen to be ''right on'' is almost a lifestyle option in itself, and I also think that the constant pressure to align with groups as diverse as ''me too'', ''Britain First'', ''Leave/remain'' and ''Corbyn rules ok?'' will have the opposite effect.
Hank999
5th Aug 2018
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Billy - preconceived views annoy me if they are stated as fact. I feel a lot of people fall into this trap - all age groups. My mother was under the impression that a young guy with long hair went about beating up old ladies. Although I wouldn't want to change the format of 'Strictly' I would like to see a replacement for the break where someone is plugging their latest release. Dance routines from other nation, two women doing a dance routine, two men doing a more aggressive routine. Maybe a comedy routine. I feel the most narrow-minded people could accept that.
Billythequiche
6th Aug 2018
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You are probably right about something fresh, perhaps you will get your wish, Cowell is not in charge.
Hank999
6th Aug 2018
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Billy behave yourself no rude words like 'Cowell' That guy has done his best to ruin pop music and he has made millions in doing it - end of
JudithH75ody
7th Aug 2018
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The sting in the tail wasn't nice!
Hank999
8th Aug 2018
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Judith Sorry I didn't understand which comment you were referring to. Surely not Mr Cowell
JudithH75ody
8th Aug 2018
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Hankggg, it was the remark that you apologised but then said I'm sorry for the both of you, I think you were addressing Billy and Lionel......
Hank999
8th Aug 2018
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Judith, I agree it was poor English and if I remember I misunderstood something that Billy said but I think we sorted it out. When I was young I was interested in playing sport and ballroom dancing. Sport won out but now I still jig about on my own especially with Latin rhythms. The Argentine tango I rate as the tops. The history of the dance is so interesting and it was at its roots a dance for men. Today in South America it is acceptable for two men to dance. Luckily women are no longer misjudged doing this tango but they were at one time. If you have never seen two men dancing watch the video by Tango Rojo.
JudithH75ody
9th Aug 2018
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Crumbs, - not that bothered, to be honest. Just recovering from knee replacement and prospect of second one in about a year!!! All this jigging about is not high on my agenda, however when I am a complete robot, I might think about it!!
Hank999
9th Aug 2018
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Judith good luck with the knees. I don't know whether you know but at one time only the ladies from the brothels danced the Argentine tango because of its sexual overtones.
JudithH75ody
9th Aug 2018
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I didn't know that but you clearly are a fount of all knowledge - I consider myself fully informed now, thank you!
Dougie123
3rd Aug 2018
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Good heavens! What on earth has a person's sexuality got to do with other people? Since when does dancing, for example, demand a quiz on sexuality?

Happily, most educated and informed people have advanced from the Dark Ages of bigoted judgementalism that tries to deny people being who they are!

It is high time that prejudice against same-gender couples was dumped in the rubbish bin.


Let us dance!!!!!!
MrsPat
3rd Aug 2018
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I totally agree with you!
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3rd Aug 2018
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Dougie123
3rd Aug 2018
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Sorry, Jorid. We are aeons apart. I enjoy being in a world that brings justified changes and respects the right of people whose gender choices are able to find expression in a better-informed society.

Mind you, I like your idea of dancing horses - have you ever seen the Lipizzaner horses in action and, of course, the judges are honest individuals (but I have no clue about the honourable judges' gender references).
sparrer
3rd Aug 2018
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Dougie123
3rd Aug 2018
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Thank you, Sparrer!
Wilf
4th Aug 2018
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I totally agree Dougie!
Wilf
3rd Aug 2018
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I think its fine and we should all go with the times-who cares-freedom for all I say!
MrsPat
3rd Aug 2018
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I agree Wilf it is now 2018. Let enjoy the dancing for everyone
Wilf
3rd Aug 2018
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Totally right Mrs Pat-lets enjoy life and all our rich diversity
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3rd Aug 2018
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csat48
3rd Aug 2018
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My thoughts too, Jorid. It could completely change the programme and might well lose it a lot of viewers. I too don't like to see public displays of sexuality, gay, straight or otherwise.
PLUM
3rd Aug 2018
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Just how I feel , Jorid
Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
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Why do you think two guys dancing together are gay ? I have a video of to men dancing together in the street in Argentina and sitting watching them are their female partners. I assume that the way the two ladies greeted them. People walked by and watched and enjoyed. I guess you would have fainted.
Dougie123
3rd Aug 2018
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Ah. Shall we build a wall? Gender apartheid?? Come on Jorid!
Margaret Hart
3rd Aug 2018
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What makes you say this as we have already had at least 3 gays on the show with no such comments they were simply contestants. Why talk about gender apartheid we are talking about one programme and whether people are in favour of changing it. You are being more homophobic than those who,disagree. Nobody is talking of going back,to the awful days of people having to,hide their sexuality but let’s be realistic!
Dougie123
4th Aug 2018
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Margaret, I have tried to understand what your point is but ... welcome to the party! Perhaps, you failed to understand what I wrote. Please have another read. Thank you!
Tricia Hildyard
3rd Aug 2018
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I could not see how this wonderful programme could be adapted to same sex couples
Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
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Tricia I agree that is why I said introduce two men dancing the Argentine Tango as a break between the competition. It appears we do have some rather delicate men on this site
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3rd Aug 2018
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Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
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Jorrid you should do a one-man show. Your wit is supreme.
Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
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Jorrid Take 2 Don't become a comedian but do watch some videos you might be surprised. Two men could do modern jive dancing. This is a true story. About 100 years ago I entered a jive contest and I think we came third BUT the winners were two guys.
No one was shocked because we all thought it was a joke. We also labelled girls who gave birth out of wedlock as tarts. We were bigots.
TheColeole
3rd Aug 2018
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The pleasure of strictly is watching a man and a woman dance.
It’s not because I’m homophobic, hey I’ve a brother and a sister who are gay, so not bothered, but silversurfers asked my opinion.....
MrsPat
3rd Aug 2018
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We have 2 friends in a gay relationship as well. I am very happy for gay couples to be on the show. I think it would make it much more interesting and relevant.
Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
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The Coleole - Oh Please - is one of them black - like me
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3rd Aug 2018
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Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
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Why not Jorid a belly dancer would make as great between events entertainment. A good choreographer could make that spectacular. You meant ballet dancer am I correct? - I have the same problem. Let us stick with belly dancer it makes more sense I think great ideas develope from mistakes. Why not dancing styles from around the world instead of people plugging their latest release?
viking
3rd Aug 2018
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Personally it would be such a shame to see an end to some of the beautiful gowns worn by the dancers. I presume that this type of gown must have brought much neede cash through the copying of these creations to home/export markets.
Dezzi
3rd Aug 2018
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This is a very difficult area to have to make a decision. I have no issues with same sex couples, if that is their choice, but I prefer not to have to watch self-sex couples in my selected choice of entertainment. Maybe in a number of years time same sex couples will be the norm and all will be accepted but not in the current time; for me anyway. I don’t want to ostracise them but at the same time I want Strictly to remain in its current format.
Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
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Dezzi A really sensible answer. Keep it the same but introduce one couple dancing the Argentine tango as a demonstration. You will find that their approach is different to a male/female approach.
Hank999
3rd Aug 2018
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Dezzi I agree but let us not break the rules just bend them a little to introduce a wider aspect of dancing during the interval
Margaret Hart
3rd Aug 2018
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I have nothing against same sex couples but as with different religions I am sick of having the subject forced on me. You would also be forcing the professionals to be in a position they do not wish to be in as it is usual for the females to have a male partner and vice versa. It has already happened but was not made obvious by a comedian. It seems as if now their situation has been legalised they wish to dictate what everyone does and this is the type of behaviour which causes a lot bad feeling among the majority who feel all the ordinary rights are being ignored. I also believe it would destroy the good ratings strictly has always attained and cause a mix up in the costume department. Does everything have to change, just because a minority group feel they must be heard.
Billythequiche
4th Aug 2018
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Raindrop
3rd Aug 2018
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Why not?
Are all old people homophobic.
Come on guys I say live and let live.
I am 62 female and recently bereaved. I was married to a wonderful man for over 42 years and I`d like to think I am not prejudiced or racist in any form.
What are people afraid of is it change, I don`t understand you?
Dezzi
3rd Aug 2018
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I am certainly not prejudiced but I do like a choice too. You will see my comments post. This is a difficult area to discuss but the question Saga has put to us is about ‘Strictly’ not other areas of self-same couples.
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3rd Aug 2018
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MrsPat
3rd Aug 2018
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I agree we should have gay couples dancing-why not this is lovely GB in 2018.
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3rd Aug 2018
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Hank999
4th Aug 2018
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I don't want to see it changed. For a start, I don't think it would work because the whole show is built around fantasy. For me it's nothing to do with sexuality When a group of dancers appear on stage they don't have to be in equal numbers and if its a group of men dancing or a group of women no one bats an eyelid. I do wish some of you would search your Internet and just see how good two men can be. They are far more athletic and they don't dance so close.
Billythequiche
4th Aug 2018
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That's not a fair comment. Does it make you racist if you did not wish to pray in a temple/church you are not a believer in? Does it make you intolerant if you are embarrassed watching pop videos with a granddaughter? Change must be by CONSENT and discussion, not enforced by a liberal elite.
Margaret Hart
4th Aug 2018
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I, 71 which I don’t consider old nowadays and why are we being called homophobic because we prefer the programme as it is. I thought Judge Rinder had been on but perhaps my old memory is failing me. I am definitely not homophobic, I have two nephews who are gay and I don’t judge them in any way and think the world of them - probably more than their parents do as they tried to keep it hidden imstead of offering their support which I think,heartless. I thought we had freedom of speech but I guess this subject has taught us all that we don’t on this site.
Raindrop
4th Aug 2018
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Hi when made my first comment the poll said 9% yes and 91% no. What does that make you think?. Now as everyone is having their say it`s gone 50% either way. So it`s made people rethink their comments.

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