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Who would make a better President – Donald or Hillary?

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton held a six-point lead over Republican rival Donald Trump, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll with new wording that was released on Friday, the day after she formally accepted her party’s nomination for November’s election.

Nearly 41 per cent of likely voters favor Clinton, 35 percent favor Trump, and 25 per cent picked “Other,” according to the new July 25-29 online poll of 1,043 likely voters, which overlapped with the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.

Donald Trump is a bit like Marmite without a background in politics, and Hillary Clinton is the first woman nominated by a major party. She served as a senator from a major state (New York) and as secretary of state.

Hillary Clinton has had senior positions in the US Government and is experienced politically but has made some mistakes such as sending her emails from an unsecured server. Donald Trump is a hugely experienced businessman and billionaire and speaks his mind but is very controversial.

What are your views? Who would make the best president of the United States… the most powerful person in the world? If you had to choose between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?

Who would make a better President of the USA - Donald or Hilary?

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1960pete
4th Jan 2017
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Thank god we have got somebody with
Balls in the white-house at last
As Obama was as much use as a chocolate fire-guard
Oh I forgot the British establishment only ever
Appreciate the weak or totally gutless
Wilf
4th Jan 2017
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Interesting the way Trump communicates. Seems to work. he says about GM making cars in Mexico the next minute Ford have reconsidered a plant in Mexia costing $1.6 billion and are relocating to Detroit!!!
davittsdame37
5th Oct 2016
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IF TRUMP WINS IT WILL BE A DISASTER. CAN ANY SANE PERSON SEE THAT BLONDE NUTCASE SITTING DOWN WITH WORLD LEADERS AND NOT SHOW HIMSELF TO BE AN IDIOT, A FUNNY IDIOT IS BAD ENOUGH, BUT A LYING SELF PROMOTING POWER CRAZY LOONEY IS A DISASTER. WHAT SHOCKS ME IS THAT SO MANY AMERICANS SEEM TO THINK HE HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HE IS A JOKE AND PUTIN WOULD SOON STOP THAT IDIOT SMILE FOR GOOD.
Capricorn
18th Sep 2016
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I wouldn't vote for either of them . What bothers me is that the USA is still a powerful Country yet cannot produce one President who is capable of good Governance. The bomb left in an affluent part of the USA detonated this morning causing many injuries shows the USA is just as vulnerable as any Country.

Stop the grandstanding Hilary and Donald , I just hope that whoever wins will think about the people, not themselves. .
Sammons
16th Sep 2016
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Think Mickey Mouse could do better but if I had to vote I would vote Hilary, as my friend said, if America votes in DT then we know we are not the daftest country on the planet.
BrumEJ43
15th Sep 2016
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Wilf
11th Sep 2016
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Looks like Hilary is not in the greatest of health for a hugely demanding job
annptf
2nd Sep 2016
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Can't bring myself to vote in your survey as my husband is an American Republican - I know, someone has to be!

I think US Elections are as mad as a box of frogs and I try not to speak about it......wouldn't want any of the people who have been interested in the job to actually get the job.....brrr doesn't bear thinking about.
Capricorn
18th Sep 2016
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Morning annptf. poor you !1 just joking lol
I have American Friends who live in New Jersey , been there 3 times , loved it. They think the British are mad to rely on Government for all their needs, they take out Insurance , got a point there .

As for the Contestants , I do wonder why there is such a paucity of talent among both Parties. Neither of the 2 on offer show any imagination on how to put the USA to rights and if this bombing this morning is an ISIS doing it is a worry for the security of the USA.
jentie51
26th Aug 2016
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Not keen on either, but Hilary seems the lesser of the two evils.
Surfergirl
22nd Aug 2016
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I have just returned from 3 months in the States and find most people don't want either! Clinton would be the lesser of two evils-God help the whole world if Trump gets in, he's a loose cannon
LaoTzu22
2nd Sep 2016
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But he is not a war criminal ,whereas Killery Hilton is surely one.
davittsdame37
19th Aug 2016
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well as far as I am concerned Trump is just a joke. I appreciate that he has made a fortune and has been successful as a businessman but God forbid he ever becomes President of the United States. They will not be united states for very long if the unimaginable happens and he actually gets into the White House. I do not know if any President has ever been loved by all Americans except in the movies it is Lincoln. The chance of being assassinated is pretty high. One would imagine with so many politicians that the great American people could choose one that would be a man of the people for the people. Its such a huge and diverse country getting someone who can please all factions is pretty near impossible. I do not see Mrs Clinton being popular nor do I see her as a World Leader. I hope and pray they choose a man or woman who has integrity honesty and the will to improve the lives of the black people and give the top jobs to those who truly deserve the posts rather than cronies and "yes" men. There is a huge division in America between the rich and the very poor.I hope for the safety of the free world that the next President is someone who can be an inspiration to the people of America, rich and poor, black and white and also be an honourable statesman trusted by all the decent politicians of the World.
Wilf
19th Aug 2016
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The problem is they only have 2 choices now either Trump or Clinton and as you say they are not good choices!
Barton babe
19th Aug 2016
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Every time Trump opens his big mouth, he puts his foot in it.
anf
19th Aug 2016
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Who cares? the Americans are nuts, and it doesn't matter who is in charge.
alusru
15th Aug 2016
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If Donald trump becomes president the USA will lose any respect it has. The country will become a laughing stock. And sadly, hilary Clinton probably won't be much better. Why can't ordinary, common,down to earth,NON millionaires be candidates ?
seanole
13th Aug 2016
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I think they are bad for the USA and for the world in general.
Capricorn
11th Aug 2016
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What I don't understand Lioned is why our MEPS do not speak up.
We lost our fishing rights, hopefully to be reinstated , Agriculture .....
I know young Welsh Farmers who leased land from Russia to overcome the problem and as a result have to accept inferior fruit and veg.
Capricorn
11th Aug 2016
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Iv'e just replied to Lionel on this topic.
Capricorn
11th Aug 2016
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Sad to say , I don't think either would make a good President, too much self interest.
Wilf
11th Aug 2016
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I agree they are both hopeless which is the worry for the USA as its not apparent which is the best as neither is! At elast we have May and Corbyn and while the latter seems a nice fellow he is hopeless as a leader
Capricorn
11th Aug 2016
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Hi WilfI agree about Corbyn and I think he will soon be asked to step down to stop the cancer in the Labour Party.
As regards to the USA Election I think the US should have a different method when voting for a President, two years is a long time to be taken to produce a new Leader. What about the 52 States have their own Election first and the winner of each State goes into the second round until only 2 survive, ......that would surely not take 2 years.
Capricorn
10th Aug 2016
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Whats' it going to take to change things ? A revolution is the answer . Just 2 minutes ago I was half watching sky News and 2 Fishermen were discussing a possible delay in agreeing Treaty change.

They said it was a big blow when France was given the Fishing rights which meant some British fishermen were unable to make a living. Even the new Mayor of London had to comment.....needless to say he was not thinking of the people , only big Business.
Lionel
10th Aug 2016
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It's little different in farming these days, Capricorn. Our farmers get an enhanced payment from the EU if they operate a three crop rotation, Wheat, Barley and Rape.

Historically, best pratice is a seven year rotation. This keeps the soil in good heart. But no, today, and for many years prior, farmers apply ever more amounts of artificial fertilser without any regard for the soil.

The result - our food doesn't contain the nutrients and trace elements we need to survive.

So what do we do/ Go to the doctor with this ailment or that and are fed something from Big Pharma who are hand in hand with Big Food and Farming.

Cosy circle, isn't it?
Capricorn
11th Aug 2016
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Actually Lionel , I have noted the change in Agriculture....gone are the days of King Edward Potatoes, , only yesterday I took a half filled packet of Tescos Charlotte potatoes which were as hard as nalls either roasted or boiled. !! What happened to Succulent Strawberries? Granny Smith Apples,? fresh veg?

I can remember the days when my older Sister and 1 took buckets of peelings to the local Farm and got threepence .
Capricorn
9th Aug 2016
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All I can say is I am glad I am not growing up today .
Capricorn
9th Aug 2016
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Actually Lionel, we havn't left much of a legacy have we.....moral standards , education, both wanting...but most of all the crisis in Europe for which we have no answer.
Lionel
9th Aug 2016
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Actually, Capricorn, it goes deeper than you've stated. I believe the root is we were seduced by rank materialism, and we remain thus, causing this generation to let go of all decent moral values and they have replaced them with the self, Today, in all generations in the UK, self prevails.

A Vodafone advert on TV about eighteen months ago exemplified this point. Two teenaged girls stood in a busy high street, doing a piece to camera. They held their phones aloft and shouted in unison, 'It's about me. It's about me.'

No it's not just about you. It's about a cohesive society which lives within known boundaries to the respect of each other. But try telling the young that. I have. My step grand children are just like these two girls - ignorant of everything except their own desires.

Our legacy will be, I believe, a generation, or two, which comes back to reality with such a thump it doesn't know where it is. And then they'll say, 'you didn't tell us.' Actually, I did, but you didn't hear me.
Capricorn
10th Aug 2016
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Morning Lionel....yes, I agree and am reminded of the person responsible . A long time ago a nephew of a famous Frenchman ...can't remember his name ...was approached by an Agency in America to come up with a slogan to increase
sales . He dreamt up "It's not what you need , it's what you desire" and consumerism was born .
Lionel
9th Aug 2016
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Capricorn
11th Aug 2016
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What would todays' population be like if there was another War?
Would they know how to cope with Rationing? No Credit ? Black outs every night etc.Second Hand shops?

We oldies were very stoical when you think about it , let's hope our offspring never have to face a Nuclear War.
Capricorn
11th Aug 2016
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Sounds selfish I know , but I am glad I am not growing up today.
Capricorn
9th Aug 2016
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It's all happening Lionel, Russian Troops sent to Syria, Water in Syria affected by the constant bombing , how come not a single word from Assad??? I bet he is out of the Country and has been for a while. What Russia hopes to gain from this war torn Country
I havn't a clue ...
Lionel
9th Aug 2016
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Capricorn, It's not about Assad at all. It's about Putin intending to establish vast inderground weapons dumps and missile outposts on, or should I say, in the Golan Heights.

In the 1967 War Russian armaments buried deep in the Goaln Heights were used to bomb Israel. Fortunately the IDF took out most pof them within a few hours. Now Putin wants to establish his place in history, as the man who rid the Middle East of the Jews.

I am a born a Jew, although a practising Christian. Putin hasn't got a hope. Not a hope.
Capricorn
11th Aug 2016
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Israel has always been protected by the USA , it's like a David and Goliath situation .
Capricorn
10th Aug 2016
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Will the USA allow this? It is the American Jews in the USA who have supported Israel in their fight with Palestine,
Capricorn
10th Aug 2016
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It is being reported on the News. The Russians are in the Ukraine and bombing Syria from there .What Putin hopes to achieve is not clear
Capricorn
10th Aug 2016
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Morning Lionel, my Father was a Jew his family fled Russia when the Revolution started , how they managed to come all the way from Minsk to Wales is some achievement. My Mother was not Jewish and my Father never practised his religion.

On my screen now is a message , don't know if it is on silversurfers but it states that Germany's Migrant Rape crisis is out of control. Merkel has to go....she has made some bad decisions.
Capricorn
9th Aug 2016
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LATEST NEWS, RUSSIA IS SENDING TROOPS INTO SYRIA .
Apparently the Soldiers need the money . Sky News received news that Soldiers were being flown in Russian military Planes.
Capricorn
9th Aug 2016
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How do you think teenagers today would cope if Britain was at War again ? A while ago I was unemployed and was asked to help teenagers compose a letter to a Company asking if there was any vacancies.

I know we could walk in and out of a job easily but that doesn't apply today . What surprised me was the spelling and grammar of their attempts ....what were they being taught in School? We knew reading, writing and arithmetic as a given , now the spell check has taken over and Computers further undermines basic education .
Capricorn
9th Aug 2016
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Latest news, China has made it known they hope the Hinckley Point Nuclear Energy project is still going ahead !!! Whatever
possessed Cameron to consider Nuclear Energy when you have to borrow £46 billion to pay for it and pay France to install it???

He also O.K.'d the fracking contract which was postponed when so many intelligent people protested...fracking in the USA has not been so profitable lately .!!!

Why is it that Britain can't provide good leadership ? Rant over LOL
Lionel
9th Aug 2016
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Now that's interesting. Why can't Britain provide good leadership? The answer has more facets than a cut diamond. And, believe it or not, I don't know all of them.

But I may say this: the model of governance we have now is tired, if not worn out; it is riven with cronyism, favouritism, nepotism and privilege. It has been thus for at least fifty years.

Many people deride Oliver Cromwell and that without reading about him or attempting to understand his times. But let's establish here, he was a devout Christian man, a country lad from Cambridgeshire. A land owner, but a small amount of land. He was convicted of a Biblical right and wrong.

On April 29th 1653 he single handedly dismissed the Long Parliament. Here's his speech to them:

It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.

Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse; gold is your God; which of you have not barter'd your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?

Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil'd this sacred place, and turn'd the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress'd, are yourselves gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.

In the name of God, go!

When we have a man of that calibre, then we will have a leader indeed. Until then, all others are party politicians, male or female.
Roof Top Crow
10th Aug 2016
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Oliver Cromwell was a fanatical puritan who became a despot. He believed that to be a true Protestant you have to live a very austere way of life. Amongst his smaller achievements was the abolition of Christmas.
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His self-belief and radicalism led to a civil war in England in which thousands of innocent men, women, and children died. He went the way of all despots, he used the military to extinguish those who did not agree with him. Almost inevitably this led to extreme behaviour and the military campaigns Oliver Cromwell led in Ireland and Scotland can only be described as genocide.
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Lionel, I think you need to find someone else to admire.
Capricorn
10th Aug 2016
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Thanks Lionel, very interesting ......this is another piece of History which I find interesting. during my very varied jobs I was a Company and Trust Administrator in Jersey and a few of us were chosen to be given a history of banking by a
guy from Head Office.

I can't remember the Century, but on the way from Market many Farmers used to get mugged . Gold was the currency of the Realm and this was melted to make more Gold...the first quantitive easing .
Traders would meet at a Coffehouse in Threadneedle street every morning and came up with the idea of issuing promissary notes "I promise to pay the Bearer" which could be hidden by the Farmer.

The Coffeehouse closed and on the site the Bank of England stands.
Capricorn
8th Aug 2016
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Apparently there is another Candidate at this late stage , I didn't catch his name but it will probably be reported again.

As for the current choice , I wouldn't vote for either , neither is squeaky clean but I think Trump would get things done and if he is to be believed, would probably care more than Hilary for the poor.
Julie
6th Aug 2016
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Donald Trump is too self seeing to be president. He has no grasp on international affairs.
Capricorn
10th Aug 2016
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Hi Julie, he definitely is a loose cannon .....suggested that Hilary Clinton could be shot LOL

Could you imagine the gaffs he would make if he was elected??
LizzieClack
6th Aug 2016
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Mr Trump does not have a "handle" on home affairs or world wide intiatives.
Capricorn
10th Aug 2016
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Hi LizzieClack, a while ago I looked up Trump on wikipedia , he has not been sqeaky clean in his Business dealings and is definitely a loose cannon .

What is it about the USA that they cannot find a Candidate to win who is honest, caring, and squeaky clean LOL

Britain is the same , the rich get richer while the poor get poorer..
Barton babe
5th Aug 2016
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Every time Trump opens his mouth he puts his foot in it, that seems to be the only thing he's good at.
Capricorn
10th Aug 2016
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What's that saying ... a Country only gets the Government it deserves.
PollyP
1st Aug 2016
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I do hope the 'red button' will be dis-connected if Trump becomes President...
Wilf
2nd Aug 2016
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Yes he is a worry. Luckily there are a lot of safeguards
JohnHerb
1st Aug 2016
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Trump seems to be getting worse. One minute he comes up with the most stupid comments and then seems to backtrack. Some comments like the wall accross the USA Mexico border smack of the former border between East & West Germany. Who wants walls in the 21st century? Madness. Clinto seems just as batty though as what sensible person (and all her staff) would have her doing all her emails via an unsafe system?
Lionel
1st Aug 2016
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JohnHerb, change is coming, and coming quickly. Gone will be our cherished freedoms, gone the liberal thinking North London elite and soon gone will be the very lax moral code so prevalent these last many years.

Governments will hold their nations in a vice-like grip.

Everything moves in cycles and the West is now looking at that point in the cycle where right wing governments prevail, where walls are built, the poor get poorer and the rich, well they move their money to tax havens.

This change will, ultimately, be good for most of us; change is inevitable and since we've gone as far as we might with liberal thinking, we must now turn about face. It will be a kind of cleansing.

It's a fact of life, harder times are standing on the threshold. Different times, times with which the younger generation are not familiar and won't know how to cope.

But I believe it behoves us older ones to point the way. Many of us will remember rationing, the Cold War, the Berlin Wall and much more besides. Those times are looking us in the face even as I write. To quote Obama's 2008 election mantra, 'change has come to ...'

He didn't deliver significant change, but across the Western word the mood of people has changed.

Change has come to all of us. A new order, merely embryonic during this liberal period, has matured. It is growing its strength, flexing its muscles.

I do not necessarily welcome the turn of events, but I do see it coming.Standby, things will be very different and very soon.
Capricorn
8th Aug 2016
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Yes Lionel , the change started when America and Britain bombed Libya , then Afghanistan , now we are already witnessing the consequence. This is not trench warfare , it is more insidious than that and so many are radicalised we don't know who to trust or how to retaliate.

Add to this the Economy stuttering and another strike by Railway workers causing havoc and the future is not looking bright is it.
Lionel
8th Aug 2016
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Capricorn, you are so right!

Obama's campaign slogan in 2008 was, change has come to America, but it was not the change they wanted. He hasn't delivered the goods.

We've had the same here under Cameron. Change, but not the change the country wanted or needed. It's just not what we voted for.

In this man's opinion the change we need is to rid ourselves of the top third of the Civil Service, which has now become so politicised and, collateral with that sack the entire Commons and Lords.

Start afresh. It's been done before and it's what we need today.

While we languish under this present regime, a regime of no change, the future won't ever look bright for the rest of us.
Capricorn
8th Aug 2016
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Hi Lionel , I have had a very chequered career, from Barmaid to Company and Trust Administrator . Time was when we had respect for Prime Ministers ...even a Bonfire in the Street on Election night . I was just a kid but vividly remember the song the Adults sung around the Fire.

"Vote , Vote, Vote for Mr Callaghan , kick old Churchill out the door. If I had a penny gun I would shoot him up the bum
and he wouldn't come around here any more" . LOL
Now all you get is a leaflet through the letterbox these days .
There is so much corruption in Politics these days I honestly think we would be hard pressed to find a Leader with vision , we also need to control the Unions , it is dreadful the way they still strike ....if I was PM I would take away the licence or whatever from the owners of this Rail Company and let it go to someone else who bars strike action. The Unions strike at the drop of a hat , yet again the Workers are forced to have time off work.I lived in Jersey for several Years ,as a Company and Trust Administrator for a Major Bank , say no more. !!
Wilf
1st Aug 2016
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I think the rich have always been getting richer. Europe has always been in a flux...1848, 1914, 1930s, 1989......Look at Turkey now. unrest. Franch..same. USA is rich but China is gaining ground and in 10 years will have overtaken USA GDP
Capricorn
11th Aug 2016
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Hi Wilf, somehow I don't see China going to war, it has increased the number of babies a couple can have to 2 because of their aging population . Yes, the economy in China is improving ....how could Cameron want to borrow £45 million to pay for a nuclear plant???? He really is a scumbag.!!!
Capricorn
10th Aug 2016
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Hi Wilf, don't forget the threat of ISIS. I don't know who recently posted this news on my computer but it is very worrying

"Germany's Migrant Rape Crisis is out of control.Germany's migrant rape crisis has now spread to Cities and Towns in all 16 of Germany's federal states."

www.gatestoneinstitute.org
Wilf
10th Aug 2016
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Yes agree-isis are a threat but compared to other issues like climate change or nuclear war they are nothing
Capricorn
8th Aug 2016
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Hi Wilf, Today's teenagers for the most part are quite different, they drink too ,much smoke wacky baccy, glued to their Mobiles and Computers have made it too easy for them to have to know the basics....reading , writing and arithmetic.
We live in a throwaway Society . ....even India, as poor a Country as it is has overtaken Britain and the USA in Education ......whose fault is that?
Wilf
9th Aug 2016
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Hi Capricorn-yes agree with your points but not that India has overtaken us in education. I went there a few years ago and it is nothing like as advanced as the UK
Lionel
2nd Aug 2016
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JohnHerb I take your point, but I think you miss my point here.

Monumental change doesn't happen over night. No. It is a seed sown in fertile soil, an embryo. It lies dormant a long time, gaining strength and vitality and only when the weather above it is favourable does it slowly begin to break through that soil - a strong plant, well nurtured and very strong. That's the lesson of history. Discontent with the status quo is, to that plant, life-giving rays of sunshine.

I must here use the agricultural metaphor; I know little else.

That plant of change has been warmed by recent years of discontent with the status quo, it has broken through the soil.

That what we are facing this evening, the plant of discontent with no known weed killer.

Yes, there have been other times akin to this, but nothing quite like it. This is a first, well, on this scale.
Lionel
1st Aug 2016
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Come back Roof Top, I'm missing our disagreements! All's forgiven.
Roof Top Crow
4th Aug 2016
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Hello Lionel.
As you would expect I do not agree with your point of view.
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You seem to be saying that the new structure will be a tightly managed version of the current system with the control still being in the hands of a political elite. I think the change that society is facing is far more fundamental.
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The change will not be in politics it will be in the ever greater use of artificial intelligence and machine learning. The use of AI. and ML. inevitably means there will be fewer jobs and an even greater gap between the rich and the poor.

The support that Trump, Brexit and Le Pen receive are significant. They are a protest vote by the great chunk of society that knows it will be left even further behind in a future driven by technology.

But it is the holiday season and I am off to the beach.
Capricorn
8th Aug 2016
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There are many factors changing the Western World , technology, drugs, drink, a monetary system that fluctuates so often that no one can plan for the future . The rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.

Now we have a Middle East at War and Europe threatened by the likes of ISIS who is out of control.

On that cheerful note I will get my Hat LOL
Lionel
8th Aug 2016
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Just maybe change is needed? not more of the same, which is what we have with May, but deep change.

I'm not a rebel nor a revolutionary, but I've lived long enough to see deep, fundamental change is needed.
Capricorn
9th Aug 2016
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Actually , Theresa May would not have been my idea of a PM.

When she was in the Home Office only once did she venture to France to liaise with Hollande over the problems of the U.K. Containers in Calais being attacked by immigrants based in a field in Calais. The damage to the Containers and their cargo cost Insurers dearly.

Also, Border Agency released 3,600 immigrants while they checked their papers ......all 3,600 disappeared without a
trace, yet Border Agency was not fired .

Cameron secretly gave the fracking Company the go ahead to start fracking when the Protesters had gone home , yet fracking in the USA is not doing well.

Is there anybody in Parliament who would care more for the people than this bunch???
Lionel
4th Aug 2016
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Hello again Rooftop, it's good to hear from you. 'Orf to the beach, eh? Too much leisure, too much pleasure, not good for the soul! Me, I work in my garden producing the finest food man may eat; even the Queen eats no better! Now, that is a real luxury. A luxury without a price.

I noticed on a thread some weeks ago, one to which you pointed me, you were going to a seminar on AI. Well, as a landsman and cattleman, AI is artificial insemination, something I've done much of. It's messy, makes a farm yard bull redundant and unsettles breeding livestock. I expect artificial intelligence to do much the same. Having said that, our current UK human breeding stock needs little in the way of AI. Enthusiastic amateurs abound.

Rooftop, to address your case we must look at humankind.

We have the ability to learn from our mistakes, and our successes, but sadly we don't. We press on for ever greater profit, at anyone else's expense. Personal benefit, personal gain, is the motive. Personal gain is not the best motive in a life lived. At the end we go out as we came in, naked and penniless. Tha's both of us!

If AI and ML bring such great efficiencies and thereby cost savings to business, tell me about the rump of people who will be without gainful employment. But in your telling me, please remember, your own father was dependent on a 'Friday night,' pay packet. Tell me also how he would have felt if he was unemployed for a long spell? Replaced by a machine.

And I mean, talk to me about these things!

Tell me also about the much higher taxes enterprise will be compelled to pay to support these vast numbers of unemployed people. Tell me about the misery of a man who wants, needs, to work and cannot. What price human misery? I was working in Swaledale at the time the Tyneside shipyards closed, a time when Thatcher closed the coal mines. Today, I've lost count of the men, hitching down the A1 hoping for work in the South, who stayed in my cottage, bathed, fed, accommodated and sent on their way with a pack of sandwiches. Little wonder the North of England doesn't vote Conservative!

You see, like it or not, we have a duty of care to one another. That surely is a part of the human condition. Like an army in the field of battle, if a small part advances, then it will be annihilated; it's not supported by the rump of men. If that army advances as one body, then it will know victory.

If, and it is an if, AI and ML are to be employed, then the state must take the people with this employment. If it does not, the state is finished as an entity. But then ... could that be a good thing? Now there's an interesting question. The Economist will not have covered that.

AI and ML will be as good as the humans who develop the software. I'm not a gambler by any means, but I might be persuaded to bet that won't come right in our lifetime.

Roof Top, I'm not a Luddite, no, by no means. I am a progressive but in a very different direction to that which you advocate. In contrast, I embrace the humanity of the people of these islands, their hopes, fears and concerns for their families. As a working man I understand the need to work, for a pay packet. Like you, I see a cold, heartless future for many, but unlike you, my heart goes out to them and my door is open for help.

And yes, I do see an all powerful state with a vice like grip on almost everything - well, they'll think they have that. In practice, it will apply only to urban and semi-urban dwellers, and, of course, to those metropolitans who have secured a country retreat, a thatched cottage or barn conversion somewhere rural. The rest of us out here will just carry on, as usual. That's the way it's always been and probably always will be.

I will continue to shoot to eat, trade without money, and if the currency fails, which it will, my family will be just fine. No change.

For me tonight, AI and ML means we're going backwards, well, the metropolitan elite at least. History attests, all city based economies fail. Our economy is failing even as we speak. But a rural economy carries on.

As for me and mine, we'll be fine. How about you and yours?
Wilf
4th Aug 2016
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Lionel-Read The Singularity by Ray Kursweil who is the chief engineer of Google. Machines will become self aware by 2030
Roof Top Crow
9th Aug 2016
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Maybe even before that and Lionel us Metropolitans give you a market that buys your products, and when that is not successful we give you money.
Lionel
5th Aug 2016
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Wilf, I haven't read this, but I'll go onto Amazon tomorrow.

But, Wilf, my point remains. Whatever change is engineered by Metropolitans country life remains much the same. There is a vast gulf between these two streams of life. The one is dependent and the other independent. It will be no surprise to you to learn I'm in the latter.

Perhaps the most significant difference is Metroplolitans need us country folk to provide food to survive. There is no metropolitan existence without us, that's a fact of life. Metropolitans may make money because we feed them.

Wilf, we may be looking at a two tier development. The metropolitans surging ahead with AI and ML and we genuine country folk heading in a different direction.

But let us remember here, metropolitans either buy their food from overseas or depend on us. If we don't work then their food either costs a hell of a lot more or they go hungry. Metropolitans are dependents, dependent on another people supplying them. But what return do we get?AI and ML? Mmmm.

In the end history records, city based economies fail, and sometimes spectacularly. But we country folk, those of us who took time to learn the age-old skills, well, we carry on.
MorrisandDoris
1st Aug 2016
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America mostly elects weak and useless Presidents so Hillary Clinton if elected will carry on with this tradition ,but Donald Trump is a wild card capable of making a difference good or bad depending on your
views ,he could make a strong leader,an American Putin maybe !
Wilf
1st Aug 2016
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An American Putin? perish the thought! We would have WW3!
MorrisandDoris
3rd Aug 2016
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We might have one anyway !
Wilf
3rd Aug 2016
1
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Lets hope not the world is in enough of a state anyway and that would just make us go the way of the dinosaurs=extinct!
Jo Kingham
1st Aug 2016
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I have some friends over from the US at the minute and although they feel neither candidate is ideal they feel very strongly that Clinton has already demonstrated that she is a liar - and get's away with it. They are reluctant Trump voters - yes he can be a bit controversial but is a refreshing change and actually just says what a lot of people feel! The feminist in me however, says I'd love to see Clinton join May and Merkel making women running 3 of the top 5 world economies!!!
greenpea
1st Aug 2016
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Well, I think Trump is dreadful. Unaware and unthinking. Change for changes sake? I think not.
Lionel
30th Jul 2016
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It's a good thing to re-visit an older thread in the light of fresh developments. Thank you.

Western countries have been governed, and sometimes ruled, by their respective establishments since long before the First War. At times these establishments have served our nations well, as in wartime, but in peacetime ruling cartels hinder progress, or effect a steering away from what is reasonable, and the will of their electorate, to that which is absurd and mostly dangerous. They plot a course to that which suits them, not us.

These last few years the very foundations of establishments have been rocked, first by scandals and then by revelations of mismanagement of a nation's affairs. Iraq is a fine example. To keep their ship afloat has increasingly meant ignoring the wishes of the voting public and ploughing on with an unseen agenda. Guess who paid the price?

That time has passed. Passed for the UK, Europe and now seemingly the USA. That's a good thing - as Solomon said, there is a time to tear down and a time to upbuild. Right now, across the world, we're tearing down what was - the lies, deceit, corruption and scandal-ridden so-called democracies, which are not democracies at all.

What will emerge from this season of tearing down I do not know. But I do know this. Not one of our present Western leaders will be in power much longer for they are not capable of weathering the present demands for change. But Trump is in the line of changers, outspoken and unshackled, he may not always be good for America, but he will open the door to the change we all so badly need. Where America leads the West will follow.

If we think of our leaders in the West as a board of directors who's thinking, policies, modus operandi and world view are tired, outdated, out of touch with their electorate, then they must go, to be replaced by different people with a refreshingly different outlook, different way of assessing matters, people seeking better outcomes.

There is no doubt the new order will also become tired and corrupt, that's the nature of things. But for this time, change is needed before we are plunged into yet more chaos, crises and ultimately war.
Wilf
30th Jul 2016
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The key here Lionel is change..Clinton represents a tired old system and bureaucracy. Trump is dangerous but he says it as it is and he is new. A journalist who penned his first book said that Trump is like a pig with lipstick and he lies. The thing is he appeals to a lot of people and he seems to get stuff done rather than just talk and waffle which the Clintons of this world seem to do.
Lionel
30th Jul 2016
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Agreed! Absolutely!

If Trump is a liar, then he's in the company of the world's politicians who equally are liars. We have our share of them in this country.

To take your point, he gets things done. Isn't that what we need at this time. An end to prevarication and waffle, political rhetoric and campaign hysterics.

I'm not a revolutionary; that just means going through a painful process to end back at the same place. But I do believe change must come. Change by peaceful means if at all possible. If it requires something less desirable, less cohesive, to achieve change, then that will be the means.

It would be better for ordinary people like you and I if the root changes needed are effected with little drama. Somehow, though, I have doubts this will be so.

As said on another thread on this forum, I fear the post-Brexit peace more than the Brexit war.
Wilf
30th Jul 2016
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Maybe its a good thing that the "Trumps" are around as they act as a catalyst to "normal "politicians to stop the waffle and bluster and get on with what they think. Love her or hate her Thatcher at least said what she believed in...look at what followed--Major, Blair, Brown...etc
Lionel
30th Jul 2016
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Wilf, is it not a truth politicians are at their best when their position is threatened? Churchill was threatened by Hitler, Thatcher by the EU. Who was Cameron's adversary? Perhaps it was the man himself.

Trump will be good for America, and thereby the Western world. We just need a Trump figure before our system is so challened from without that it has no answer and fails.

What follows then is unthinkable.
lagarto
4th Jul 2016
1
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why only those 2? What about Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein?
Wilf
30th Jul 2016
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Looks like they are out of the race now
1960pete
1st May 2016
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Well no matter what the very sad
socialists in the UK Think
of the great Donald trump
I've got news for you' the guy is
Strolling the US primaries
And everything politically correct
is about To change forever !
Germany is heading down the toilet
Thanks to that very silly woman merkel
And the only reason these socialists can
Spout off
Is for what the British army did in ww2
And do you really think that the petty little people
In power today
Will be around within the next 5 years
I don't think so bye bye and good luck
Oh I nearly forgot that the leader of the Labour Party
Who wants our country to be toothless
To the House of Commons
What a shame :)))
Wilf
2nd Aug 2016
1
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Yes it does look like Germany is in a right mess and on the news tonight I am not sure the e6 billion bribe to the Turks to keep migrants in Turkey will work if the EU do not extend the Turks visas. Turkey is a wonderful country but I worry about its future
catsx3gmailcom
28th Apr 2016
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I cannot think of one positive thing to say about Donal Trump.
Tigre
13th May 2016
2
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Hillary Clinton is in the pockets of Monsanto and Big Pharma. Donald Trump is totally against genetically modified crops, dangerous cancer causing pesticides and medications which only benefit the companies who produce them, not the patients who take them. Americans are being slowly and systematically poisoned. It's shocking the number of well-known British companies who use Monsanto wheat, con etc. In their produce. The danger is that they are not legally required to state on the labelling that GMO has been used. I'd say that's one big thing in his favour, regardless of how one regards him as portrayed in the media.
KeithE3
28th Apr 2016
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Trump is a Chump

Bigoted, anti women, anti any other Country, anti NATO, incites violence, & much more

He even bought a Russian Bride !

The man's an Eejit & a danger to the Planet
JohnHerb
1st Aug 2016
1
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His wife is not Russian she is Slovakian. I agree he could be a danger as he makes crazy statements...BUT...Clinton is just as unstable and I worry about her sense of judgement
1960pete
26th Apr 2016
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The funniest thing about these anti trump people
Is should the guy get the vote' and the corrupt
American political system start to crash !
Just where they going to get
another lame-Duck president from :)))
What ever happens the whole system is
About to change thank god
mickigirl
20th Apr 2016
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It's a fascinating situation in the USA, no question about that. But I think the deeper issue is the situation that has allowed a Donald Trump to garner so many votes! Clearly there are many disenfranchised folk in the USA who feel marginalised or overlooked due to Political correctness. They feel threatened and frightened about the future. Trump is hardline for America's security. Your average American isn't particularly interested in a polititian's lucidity or erudition!! In fact that would be vaguely threatening to them. Trump appeals to the common man, even though he is a man rich largely through his own family's inheritance. They don't care even about that. They want an America which is secure and safe, without their safety being hostage to PC.
duckkers
13th Apr 2016
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AHA - light bulb moment - just checked Mr Trumps' lineage -
mother Scottish (OMG don't let him move to Scotland)
father of German extraction - should I go on!?
Now where shall we suggest Mr Trump return to - although in fairness he isn't an illegal immigrant........hmmmmmm
duckkers
13th Apr 2016
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,I worry about Donald Trump being elected - he makes outrageous, sometimes very scary, comments and then, realising his error quickly backtracks and tries to cover himself ....... anyone who can do that as often as he does surely cannot be trusted with the safety of his country, a country made up of immigrants - a country whose immigrant population took the land and resources of the native people - pauses to scratch head, I wonder what familial history belongs to Mr Trump and should he return to his ancestral country.......?
If Trump finds it so easy to say whatever comes into his head in interview/debate and then, not retract but "reshape" what he has said in an attempt to justify himself, then how easy will it be for him, as President, to order actions or make statements that can inflame outrage and incur violent reaction, and then when it's too late try to change what he has said.
I sincerely hope Trump does not get the Presidency.
Wilf
2nd Aug 2016
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I totally agree with you. Trumps mouth moves and then his brain catches up! He is a strange beast. Plus at his age he needs to save some time and shave that crazy hair off and have a short back and sides!
Roof Top Crow
7th Apr 2016
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Donald Trump has said that it is not safe to come to Europe because of the risk of being killed by terrorists.
Statistics 2015.
. 148 - the number of people killed in terrorist incidents in Europe.
. 13,286 - the number of people killed by guns in USA.
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Bearing in mind that the population of the USA is much smaller than the population Europe, in fact it is less than half the size, that is a frightening statistic. The correct advice should be to stay Europe, do not go to the USA, it is very dangerous.
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Any one of us could make a list of the statements Donald Trump has made that are factually wrong, but why bother. His campaign is shuddering to a halt and he will in time be just a footnote in history.
Wilf
3rd Aug 2016
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Not sure..Trumnp seems to be in with a chance
1960pete
5th Apr 2016
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Why is it all the yellow phonies
that come on this site are so
Terrified of Donald Trump !!
The guys got guts
Unlike the sugar-puffs
Who try to put him down ,
In the very likely event of WW3
Which seems that our third world have-not friends
Are determined to have !
It will be the likes of DT who we will need on side'
say or think what you want that's the hard truth
Unfortunately the UKs second party is led by
A Lilly-Livered coward who wants us to be weapon-less
Against all of our enemy's and we have enough of them !
The next 5 years are looking really rosy for us all
Please show me a different alternative !!
Lionel
9th Apr 2016
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Excellent response. My views entirely.
Barbara58
5th Apr 2016
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I hope all those here who favour Trump will watch 'The Debates', whatever time they're on.
That is when you will all see he has absolutely no knowledge of politics, both domestic and worldwide.
When it comes to stating his policies he will be revealed as a complete numpty.
He will attempt to sidestep serious comment and just rant on, swearing and breathing fire, but nothing of substance will come out of this ignorant man's mouth.
Lythamlucy
4th Apr 2016
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Would be very worried if trump got in the white house for the whole world
1960pete
3rd Apr 2016
1
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Donald trump is the man
Why should the USA be an
Open-house
Considering they now have the '
Weakest president since jimmy carter
I can never forget 40 odd years ago
When the us were having a problem with
IRAN
And president carter came on the box and
Said these are difficult times
So I am now going to pray!
Truth said all jimmy had was the power of
the lords word
Oh yes and the American Navy thank god
MikeBR
4th Apr 2016
4
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I totally agree , "Why should the USA be an OPEN HOUSE". As a part 'Native American' who's family had to take refuge in another country I think we should deport the whole lot of those who invaded our land, exploiting it's resources, all for there own greed and basically killing our planet. The Native American's , both North & South, for thousands & thousands of years lived with nature and kept our planet in an even equilibrium [Unlike Global warming now] and it is only with the intervention of these 'Economic Migrants' who have brought the whole planet to it's knee's. Will we still be here in another 100 years?
As my Cree ancestors said " Only when we have cut down the last tree, killed the last last animal, poisoned all our water systems, will we realise, YOU CAN'T EAT MONEY'
Wilf
2nd Aug 2016
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wonderful comments and so true. Money is the root of all evil. We are destroying this beautiful world. the USA and Australia had native people living in them for 30,000-40,000 years. by 1800 they were invaded and now the countries are unrecognisable-shame on us all.
Speeednet
3rd Apr 2016
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Clearly those of you voting for Hillary do not know her history. Here is a taster for anyone that may be interested.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/
sparrer
2nd Apr 2016
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Trump is a dangerous, neurotic and evil man, God help America if they believe he would be a better president than Clinton. I've often referred to America as 'Disney with guns' - if he wins this he'll have trumped that hands down.
Tigre
13th May 2016
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Hit the wrong button. I DO NOT agree with your comments.
axor
2nd Apr 2016
2
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Donald Trump=Forrest Gump?
pink rose
1st Apr 2016
3
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Heaven help us if Trump gets in. WW3 round the corner!!
Lythamlucy
4th Apr 2016
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We will need help from heaven if he gets in
Lionel
3rd Apr 2016
3
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WW3 is around the corner with or without Trump.

The fact is he might just be the one to ensure the West survives.
Barbara58
1st Apr 2016
3
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Donald Trump is funding his own election campaign.
Doesn't that speak volumes!!!!!
Trump - 'boo hoo, nobody will back me so I'll back myself, then I can run and say what I want and hope the people don't realise I have nil, nada, zilch knowledge of Politics'.
I rest my case!
Lythamlucy
4th Apr 2016
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MikeBR
4th Apr 2016
3
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Have you checked out how many of his ventures over the last 30 years have ended in his company's going into liquidation and good hard working people loosing all their savings?
Lionel
3rd Apr 2016
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Closer to home, our politicians with supposedly immense knowledge of politics are royally screwing things for us.

Trump could well be an asset, both to the Americans and us.
Terrysoldgal
31st Mar 2016
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It looks like from the poll that 22% think that Donald would make a better president. That's a bit scary.
Pussk2
24th Mar 2016
5
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Hilary all the way. Surely the Americans have more sense than to elect Trump.........mmm.... maybe not!
cragbag
22nd Mar 2016
7
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It would be a disaster for the whole planet if Trump became president. He is a warmonger and a hate preacher, and has no policies except to make war. He is divisive, and a bully. Hilary Clinton is a real stateswoman with real policies, and a peacemaker in the same sort of way as Obama is. I shall miss Obama terribly.
JohnHerb
23rd Jun 2016
1
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I agree I think Trump is a buffoon and cannot be taken seriously
pete1956
18th Mar 2016
3
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If Hilary and should win
I just hope that she can get a little
Bit more of a grip on her First Lady !
As we have all seen how billiam flashes his
Eyes when in the oval-room 🙂
mikerobbie
16th Mar 2016
9
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if Donald Trump is elected as president then i fear our world will become unstable he appears to be a"lets nuke them person"
mermaid60
7th Mar 2016
8
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God help America if Trump wins.
petesline9
3rd Mar 2016
7
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Donald trump a racist !!
And multiculturalism is really working
Well' don't make me laugh 🙂
Lionel
3rd Apr 2016
2
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mollie16
2nd Mar 2016
11
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Donald Trump is a buffoon and a racist, i hope the American people wake up before it is too late. god help the world if he makes it to the White House.
JohnHerb
23rd Jun 2016
2
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Totally agree Mollie but looks like Clinton will Trump him! sorry about the pun!
mikerobbie
16th Mar 2016
6
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completely agree mollie16
annlaceby
2nd Mar 2016
10
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The thought of Donald Trump in the White House scares me more than anything else that has happened in my almost 67 years!! I hope the citizens of the United States wake up before it is too late.
petesline9
1st Mar 2016
1
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I am from England and I find the u.s election quite
Interesting ,
A lot of Americans say that Donald trump is dangerous
I guess that you could be right ' though look at the alternatives
As you can all see what is happening in your country with a weak
President !!
Personally I think that if you don't have somebody with Guts
At the helm' then you are on a one way ticket to disaster .
Here in Europe we are like a runaway train ' as the borders have
Been opened and the people in charge are useless ..
The people coming into our countries are not going to stop
Let's face if you came from dictator led countries then became
Aware of lives where people are free and happy then you would
Never return to a nothing existence ! Nobody would
These are the most dangerous times for free people of our world
Since adolf hitler came to power in 1933.
When reading a national English newspaper last weekend
The main topic of interest was if an ex footballers wife
Had injured her left arm !!
So sad but it's just not funny any more
Donald trump may have a big mouth " but who else have you got !
Jeff.C
28th Feb 2016
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Hilary Clinton is the best of the alternatives. If Trump is elected then the whole of the USA might as well pack up, lock their borders, and ask for the last one out to turn off the lights. Trump will destroy any co-operation between the US and any other country - including the UK.
sparrer
26th Feb 2016
7
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Not Trump, please! That's one dangerous, slightly crazed man who would lead America into all sorts of trouble.
Clinton is a strong woman, experienced in the workings of running a country. She's got her feet on the ground so no contest.
jentie51
24th Feb 2016
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Much as I love Marmite (and it's recently been named as a super food), I cannot bear Donald Trump. Heaven help the citizens of the USA and our lovely planet, if he becomes the most powerful man in the world. Would anyone seriously trust him with the nuclear weapon codes?
GG
16th Feb 2016
7
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No contest on this one, Donald Trump as president of the USA would be incredibly dangerous for America, its allies and the rest of the world. Also he has absolutely no political experience, at least Hilary knows about diplomacy and how things work.
senile
8th Feb 2016
5
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The upcoming American Presidential election will be pivotal in deciding where US policies are headed,not only for the next
four years, but for years to come. This is because a Trump
election will signal a change in attitudes, creating an isolated
society with less sensitivity to racial, ethnical,and even
gender issues. You can see this in his comments and how he responds to issues that involve these different groups.
So to support and vote Trump for President will signal an
American society that is no longer interested in the
foundations upon which this country was founded. This would in essence render the American Revolution and Civil War as
pointless, as this would undermine the reasoning and
even it's effects on this country. Whilst I am not a fan
of right-wing conservatism and it's attempts to invoke religion into American politics(and schools), anyone running for President is a better selection than Donald Trump.
Marigold67
2nd Feb 2016
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She may have had scandals all her life but who has not. She is very familiar with the running of her country, she also nows do's & dont.
If all Americans vote for her it will be better than DT.
Speeednet
2nd Feb 2016
3
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Has nobody looked at the scandals that have followed Hillary her whole career?
Judy5635
2nd Feb 2016
6
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It is not possible for Donald Trump to ever be leader of this country. For one thing...he's an idiot....for a second...he has no social skills.

I believe Hilary is intelligent, has experience, and would be the best to represent our country. Her email problems need to just go away. When all of this happened, nothing she sent was classified. I truly hope we can all put this behind us. Judy
pollyj
1st Feb 2016
3
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I don't agree with 'PC' but Trump is so trumped up. Nobody in their right mind could think he has anything to offer the US.
dexawrek
1st Feb 2016
4
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I live in the US but don't have a vote because I chose to remain British. That said I do try to follow the election as much as I can understand. I don't understand what this Caucus really does but it shows the candidates whether it's worth continuing or not. This Iowa Caucuses are, I believe, always the first in any election with over 12" of snow forecast for most of Iowa.
As to the candidates you ask about only two headliners but there are others with as much or greater chance of being elected in November. Yes for all of you who don't know this election process drags on until November with more dirt thrown than a farmer has manure.
Talking about dirt and name calling I personally can say that is all I have heard Trump doing. I haven't heard anything about what issues he stands for or what he would for the country. O at this juncture I would have to say Hillary Clinton.
As a footnote there is going to be millions upon millions of dollars spent on all these campaigns that I feel should be spent on the poor and needy.
Baxi
1st Feb 2016
4
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I think Trump is a dangerous option. Some people will think that he will temper his views, but I think he's so arrogant that he will just think he can impose his policies. Can you imagine him round the table with the Europeans?!

Hilary is an experienced pair of hands and has been involved in politics almost her entire adult life. I'd feel much more comfortable with her in the driving seat.
Wilf
1st Feb 2016
6
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Be interesting with him in a meeting with Merkel!...or Putin..love to be a fly on the wall at that meeting
Wilf
1st Feb 2016
3
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I think the one to watch is Marco Rubio the young Republican candidate. he may be about 3rd in the voting after Trump and Cruz but I have seen him a few times on TV and on the USA stations of republican hopefuls and he a really bright guy. plus he is only in his 40s so while lacking life experience he has energy. The Donald and Hilary are both in their late 60s
Peggysue61
1st Feb 2016
1
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We need a woman president. Hilary every time .
Wilf
1st Feb 2016
3
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Yes I agree it would be good to have a female but then Hilary was the Secretary of State and as far as I am aware did nothing outstanding in her tenure in that office. Maybe they need an American version of Mrs Thatcher-she would have eaten The Donald for breakfast!!!
thefilthycripple
1st Feb 2016
3
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People who think Trump is very clever are deluded I remember him being bailed out by Nat West USA ,he is a total gambler !
Wilf
1st Feb 2016
3
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He may be but he is worth $10 billion. obviously got some good odds!
thefilthycripple
1st Feb 2016
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Very sad that this is the best a great country like America has and cannot find better candidates ,particularly after the worst President ever Obama .I never thought I would live long enough to see a President worse than Jimmy Carter !
Wilf
1st Feb 2016
3
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Yes but we are the same here look at Jeremy Corbyn and some of the other MPs. Our lot have been busy getting us to pay for their extravagances like Duck Houses etc. Obama is a good man but cannot make a decision. Jimmy Carter always stuck me as a very good man but he again was not tough enough. Came back another FDR I say for the USA and Winston for the UK!. Unfortunately you only get one of these every 50 years or so
Munsterlander
1st Feb 2016
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Trump is a very clever guy-you don't make $4 billion without having a lot of brain cells. he is also not spending any money on his campaign just replying on PR-again very smart. I think he will temper his views if he did get into office. Hillary is also bright. My worry about her is it will be the same old/same old. Not sure she has made a big impact so far to date. The main issue seems to be she has been using her normal email address to send classified emails and documents-not smart!
jeanmark
1st Apr 2016
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He may be rich and have a lot of brain cells but he doesn't appear to be using them.
Renka
1st Feb 2016
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Donald Trump is a very dangerous half wit and the people who support him have even less in the brain department than him.
He would cause world war three and think it clever to release nuclear weapons.
Elect him and say goodbye to the world.
celtwitch
1st Feb 2016
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Oh, the irony? You don't get to be a billionaire if you are a 'dangerous half wit.' But people like yourself, unable to fully comprehend the real dangers the world is facing and who have swallowed the lie that Mr Trump is in any way a threat to world peace are not wise. Those people wear the 'half wit' cap, without realising it, and it suits them!
jeanmark
1st Apr 2016
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But you can be a billionaire and a bigot.
Munsterlander
1st Feb 2016
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What are the real dangers the world is facing celtwitch? Global Warming, Nuclear war & Overpopulation...not many others I can think of that are truly a real real danger.
JohnHerb
1st Feb 2016
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In my view Donald as he is a businessman-could help fix the US economy as he has loads of experience unlike Hilary who has just been a politician all her life...no real experience...(UK politicians take note!) and he would just be the leader-it would be others around him that would do the work- he would generate ideas. Some of his ideas are nuts but he does say what he believes which is refreshing for politicians who waffle and never seem to answer the question put to them. Should make for an interesting USA election this year!

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