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Brexit – what happens next? 

With Theresa May’s proposed Brexit Agreement looking increasingly unlikely to be voted through in parliament on the 11th December the options for what happens next are looking very limited. 

Some of the cabinet are urging the Prime Minister to postpone the vote fearing that a big loss would bring down the government and bring further chaos with a General Election and change of leadership.

Plus recent polls show that an increasing number of people have changed their mind and now think that the original decision to leave the EU was wrong as calls for a second referendum are ever increasing.

What would you like to see happen if parliament decides to vote against Theresa May’s proposed deal?

What would you like to see happen if parliament decides not to vote for the current deal?

Continue with Brexit with no deal
0%
Return to the negotiating table with the EU to try and get a better deal
0%
Call a second referendum
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Call a general election
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Based on 4605 public votes.

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Margaret Hart
13th Mar 2019
2
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If the Government continue to act against exactly what the people in this country voted for 2 years ago I believe we should go ahead and leave the EU as arranged in March without a deal. It has been said many times that those who voted to come out of Europe did not know what they were voting for - I wish I could be sure that all the MPs involved in the problem had read everything available about the make up and aims of the EU. Also anybody who watched had gone on with their dealings with other members must realise that they do exactly what they want at the time they want and won’t be swayed from that - nothing to do with the membership rules or agreements. They have not worked hard on any negotiation they have stated orders for us to obey. When I voted to come out it had nothing to do with immigration although admittedly we must do something about that whole subject as we do not have the houses, schools or hospitals to keep on taking more people. I do not want to become a state in Europe as we have ruled ourselves for so many years and that’s the way it should stay. We vote for the people we want to make our laws but they are not in the European Parliament they are in Westminster. Europe have short memories as if it hadn’t been for us they would all be talking German or Russian but there debts wiener written off but we did not finish paying our war debts until the 21st century, within the last 19 years. If we’d had that money to build the U.K. up again we would have been in a very different position.

Please everybody let us get on with getting back to being the U.K. again not a tadpole in Europe.
StephenA3
3rd Feb 2019
1
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Without doubt the whole process has been handled very badly. As soon as the referendum was over the Remain campaign started to attack the result. Project fear failed to get the Remain vote they expected but they went into overdrive afterwards, producing more and more lurid predictions and acting as a fifth column weakening the UK negotiating position by playing politics and undermining us from within. Now they want leaving delayed so a second referendum or a general election can be held. A perfect example of political double speak. Business is being damaged by all the uncertainty (they tell us) so let’s prolong the uncertainty a bit longer, so business can be even more damaged I presume? Theresa May should just say 29 March is leaving day, we go with the best deal we can agree. If we don’t agree a deal then No Deal is the default. That’s it. On March 30th we are then dealing with what HAS happened, no uncertainty, no “what ifs”, no predictions or possible effects and no more uncertainty.
JAM
8th Feb 2019
-1
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Now old are you you certainly don’t work in the car industry and are concerned about loosing your job
StephenA3
8th Feb 2019
2
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Not sure what my age has to do with things? As We are exchanging views on a SilverSurfer message board then over 55 is probably a safe bet. You are right about not working in the car industry though, do you work in the coal mines, steel works or ship building ? All industries in the area where I live that very few people are concerned about losing their jobs since there are no jobs left to lose. The industrial policies pursued by all governments over the last 50 years have led us to where we are today. If you think these policies have brought us to a good place and things have been getting better for all this time then you are in a minority amongst my family, friends and acquaintances. I equate staying in the EU with Einstein’s definition of insanity “continually repeating something over and over again and hoping for a different result from the last time” we have tried 50 years of the EU, time to stop the insanity and try something different. It’s the only way things can get better. Staying in the EU is just more if the same and a continued decline.
Bluebird55
28th Jan 2019
0
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Reluctantly, I think we must have another referendum. The remainers warned us of this mess if we voted to leave, while the leave campaigners said it was all scaremongering. Now we have had a chance to see all the problems, it is time for a new vote, and if we are prepared to put up with the chaos to leave, so be it... let's get out and negotiate any deals afterwards. If not, let's stay put and get back to normal.
StephenA3
8th Feb 2019
2
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Well my vote is to get out and negotiate any deals afterwards. The longer we stay in the longer the uncertainty will last and the longer we have to anticipate what ifs and maybes. Let’s leave, like we voted to, then we can deal with actual consequences not what might happen.
oldbutgoldie
14th Jan 2019
2
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There are many people who express for or against influenced by what they see in the news media but if the truth be told we ARE better off remaining. Better work conditions (for those still working) and better job security. You may not think so but the many Europeans who are in the UK work, don't take British jobs(they do work many British aren't willing to do), so therefore pay taxes and full-fill a much needed and vital part in our economy. Many foreign workers are in industries such as transport (like the buses) and the NHS. The previous referendum results were influenced by facts and figures, mainly by leavers saying how much better off we would be not paying Europe but later on much of these figures were either misleading or down right 'porkies' but the results were deemed okay but I think they weren't legal. So maybe it would be better if we had second referendum based on facts we now know!
JAM
8th Feb 2019
-1
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Could not agree more
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
1
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We need to just get out of Europe. We gave them a big hand by stating we would give them 39 billion pounds. We started negotiating from a weak position. Keep the money or tell them if they do not want to negotiate properly we will reduce the amount by so much per week. We could always ask for the money and lives we wasted saving the French in 2 world wars and demand the Germans give us reperation for what they did.
IanE7
22nd Dec 2018
-4
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Your knowledge of international trade arrangements and the operation of the EU does not even need a postage stamp to be written in full. We owe the money as per previous agreements we made, If we renege on this, no-one will trade with us ever, We did not save the French. The USSR and the USA were mainly responsible for the victory in WWII. We kept the fight going at a vital time but no way would we ever have won by ourselves. If you know nothing better to keep quiet and look thoughtful rather than opening your mouth and proving you are ignorant and your feelings - not thoughts - irrelevant, Even better, go away and study and then speak with knowledge of some facts, not daft and baseless prejudices. You may say what you will. But equally I may treat such comments with disdain if they are absurd and based on ignorance and lies.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
3
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I will treat your remark with the contempt it deserves.
JAM
8th Feb 2019
2
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JAM
8th Feb 2019
-4
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Great comments just think there are to many old people out there
With little understanding of the facts and the sad think is they don’t care about there childerens future
From a 77 W year old
jentie51
10th Dec 2018
1
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Well folks, this morning I was delighted to learn that the European Court of Justice has ruled that Article 50 can be revoked without the permission of the other member states of the EU.

Also that Mrs M has cancelled tomorrow's vote.

This is music (a symphony even) to my ears!

What comes next is anyone's guess, but PLEASE not Moggy, Bojo or any of their special pals moving into number 10.

I am now watching several spaces with great interest.
CarolanneW
8th Dec 2018
4
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Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
0
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Yes they take a huge wedge of cash from us waste a load of it gives a small amount back and then say what a wonderful job they have done. Keep the money and spend it on ourselves.
RayH2
8th Dec 2018
-4
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Let’s rejoin the EU as we like to give our money away. I like being told by a none elected group of people from overseas what we need to do. When I don’t like what I see and do the answer will always be you signed your sovereignty and your identity over to the EU so tough!

Mrs May has sold us down the river with her deal witch has no end date, no say, no dealing with the rest of the world until the EU see fit, Northern Ireland will no longer be under parliament controls. Britain will become just a state under dictatorship. We won’t have a prime minister just a governor and a small senate.

You keep believing the the Eurocrats will be fair to the England not a hope in hell.
JacquiT
7th Dec 2018
8
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The referendum was a nonsense. 'Do you want to leave the EU?' Yes or no. NO indication as to what a vote to leave would mean. Or how we would achieve it. Or what it would cost. Or what we would gain. Hence the Brexiteers running for cover as soon as they won!
WessexMario
8th Dec 2018
7
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There was no indication of what it meant because Cameron didn't know what it really meant. When he discovered, he abandoned ship.
outdoor girl
7th Dec 2018
11
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We should withdraw article 50 and remain before any more damage is done to the UK.
Can’t believe there are still people wanting to leave without a deal. If you don’t care about the implications for yourself, you should care about the vulnerable and poor people in our society who will be very badly hit.
WessexMario
7th Dec 2018
11
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The problem is the 2016 referendum was never about the EU.

The UK population would have voted against the referendum whatever the question on the ballot paper was, because voters feel that they are not being listened to, nor being represented properly, and thy are doing a poor job of running the country.
This is being confirmed by the fiasco that the politicians are turning Brexit into.

The important questions are not what are the causes and solutions to the problem, it's are we solving the right problem, and Brexit is not it!

The real problem is dissatisfaction with UK politicians, the voters taking the only opportunity given to them to register a protest vote. What this country needs to do is forget about Brexit, Brexit will not solve our problems.

Our problem now is how do the broken parties fix the broken Brexit project, and keep us voters happy. We need to reform the broken party political system in this country.

PS. Remain is missing from your options.
KathrynG9
7th Dec 2018
14
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Remain. There's no better deal, and if we come out of the EU, we'll never again have as good a deal as we have now.
GeorgeS99
7th Dec 2018
15
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Why no option to withdraw the article 50 notification and repeal the withdrawal act?
CarolanneW
9th Dec 2018
1
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because mps wont vote for it
AndrewY
7th Dec 2018
10
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Well we can't return to the negotiating table without cancelling A50 and compromising on Freedom of Movement. The majority of the public now see that they were lied to and brexit is going to kill the economy (and thus affect pensions eventually and increase prices). So there really is no excuse for not supporting a second vote now that we know the true situation (age 73)
jacare
7th Dec 2018
12
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"Cancel Brexit" would be the most sensible option, but I see you haven't listed it.
KarenB645
7th Dec 2018
-12
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Continue with no deal
CarolanneW
7th Dec 2018
7
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why would we all make ourselves worse off, cut public services and destroy NHS? No way No deal should be an option
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
1
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When Portugal joined 200 jobs from a factory in our area were lost and the Portuguese got the jobs. Happened to lots of manufacturing jobs. Europe waste of time and money.
Surfer Pete
7th Dec 2018
15
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Maybe it's time for us oldies to listen to our children and grandchildren. They are the future and will have to live with the results of our mess - the majority of young people want to stay in the EU.

They can't remember the 'so called' good old days outside the EU which frankly weren't that good!!

Maybe we should all listen to them and moderate our antiquated views and allow another referendum. For whatever reason they weren't engaged last time around - they sure will be the next time.
Pauline52
10th Dec 2018
3
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Yes, the young ones will have to live with whatever happens - that includes the breakdown of democracy if there's a second referendum. We live in a country where the result of a referendum is recognised as the will of the people. That means that the action must be carried out by our elected Parliament.

Suppose the Scottish referendum had been ignored? Or the 1795 referendum for the EU? Just suppose we decide now that no referendum is binding so government can just ignore it... what happens if there's a referendum about (say) going to war in the Middle East?
jentie51
10th Dec 2018
1
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Actually, Surfer Pete, the Danes held a referendum in 1982 re their membership of the EU. Because the difference between leave & remain was so little, the result was ignored and they continue as members.

My understanding of democracy is the opportunity to change one's opinion, and my understanding is that many, many people have changed their minds regarding their original vote.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
1
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My Children and my friends children all voted to leave. They realise how undemocratic the eu is and how much of our hard earned money is frittered away and is wasted.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
1
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Just remember how undemocratic it was in Ireland when they voted to come out of the euro. Europe insisted they keep voting until they got the response they wanted. Very democratic.
PeterB89
7th Dec 2018
11
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Anything but remain will ruin the future for our children and grandchildren. Second referendum gives the chance to correct the error of 2016, fuelled by deceit and interference from outside.
MaudL
7th Dec 2018
-3
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Leave is supposed to mean leave that's what we voted for in the first place
KathrynG9
7th Dec 2018
-1
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Based on lies, foreign money, criminal acts and a ridiculously successful Project Fear campaign to stop us listening to anyone who knew what they were talking about!
AndrewY
7th Dec 2018
0
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More fool you many might say
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
1
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Perhaps it's more fool those who listened to the lies of those who said there would be Armageddon. Actually things got better. If people had a positive attitude and said we can do this it would be better.
Remain
7th Dec 2018
12
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#RescindRemainReform
StuartG9
7th Dec 2018
-11
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For me the sovereignty of the nation outweighs any tied union with an EU political system which is bordering on Communism. The UK is strong enough to grow and prosper without the EU if our politicians get some backbone.
AndrewY
7th Dec 2018
7
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Sovereignty? Define EXACTLY what you mean. All trading and interactions with other countries requires agreeing common rules (unless you're N Korea). We will suffer badly and will be squashed economically by the big trading blocks and nations.
CarolanneW
7th Dec 2018
5
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I don't think you know that we are still a sovereign nation within eu. You have probably been misled by leave campaign as this suits their purpose. If you are interested in sovereignty then look at this short clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USTypBKEd8Y
christine1850
7th Dec 2018
3
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Wilf
12th Dec 2018
2
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I think communism is a bit strong. All the Eu countries are democracies. The EU is the worlds largest trading bloc. I did not vote to get poorer which may happen if we leave the EU. However I do think the leaders of the EU Tusk and Co are being very dictatorial and inflexible on the negotiations. they forget we elected them all. They are our servants and NOT vv!
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
0
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I don't believe it will be communism. It will be a right wing dictatorship. Just look at the rise of right wing groups across the continent.
jentie51
7th Dec 2018
16
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I voted for a second referendum, though my preferred option is to remain in the EU.

Back in the original referendum, I voted in favour of joining the Common Market, as it was then called & also voted to remain in this last referendum.

I also feel that a general election is well over due - this vile government needs to go.
Linda369
7th Dec 2018
23
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I agree my preferred option is to remain. I am so fed up with the lies and cheating that politicians spout daily. We were promised more money for the NHS which many people voted for but there is no Brexit dividend.
Over the past 2 years it has become evident that we already have the best deal.
IanE7
7th Dec 2018
19
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The level of ignorance here is frightening. People seem to think leaving is almost risk free, Insane. There is no chance of trading under WTO rules yet as there are outstanding objections to the UK doing so. By the way, the WTO is not in the slightest bit democratic. Why opt for an autocracy where we have no say when we are in a fully democratic EU (and please don't contradict me - my statement is fact)? And as for the huge damage this would inflict on our children and grandchildren, think further and repent. We have had it great. Free education, a good jobs market, free health treatment etc. Many of you want to take all this away when you have no clue about the basics of the EU or international trade agreements or the truth more generally. Clearly old age confers no inherent wisdom. I am ashamed of many of my contemporaries and agree with the young who criticise our selfishness and ignorance. Grow up as well as well as old please.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
1
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EU democratic definitely not.
DavidR52
7th Dec 2018
21
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There is no sensible alternative other than remaining in the EU. This Brexit farce is wearing the country and the economy down.
AnthonyF9
7th Dec 2018
-13
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Go for a clean no deal break, take the hit for a couple of years and emerge stronger.
Gingernut49
7th Dec 2018
15
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Even Rees-Mogg says it may well take over 50 years for things to improve - we'll all be dead then - and do you want to risk that for your children and grandchildren?
Please research what leaving with no deal would mean - and I don't mean reading the Express/Mail/Sun which is where it seems you get your news from.
We cannot revert to WTO rules as we are members of the WTO through our membership of the EU. Every trade agreement would have to be renegotiated and that takes years.
We've had no problems as members of the EU, only huge advantages, so why on earth would we want to leave the biggest trade organisation on the planet?
MikeK7
7th Dec 2018
5
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Your unicorn wants mucking out and those fairies at the bottom of your garden are causing a disturbance.

Seriously, where on Earth do you get “a couple of years” from? Even the Victorian Stick Insect acknowledges that any no-deal split will take up to 50 years to get over.
GeoffreyW4
7th Dec 2018
-11
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If Parliament vote against the deal then they need to say what would be acceptable and put it to The EU, demanding a free extension to the deadline for further discussion or crash out in March 2010
JohnJ1
7th Dec 2018
-3
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Crash out in 2010???
ColinC15
7th Dec 2018
-18
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Out means out. If violent is required then so be it
Wilf
7th Dec 2018
5
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Probably not a good idea. We do not want the riots the French are having.
GeorgeS99
7th Dec 2018
6
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Are you prposing that you resort to violence. that is a criminal offence. Expect a knock at the door.
RoyT
7th Dec 2018
5
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What 17.5 million knocks???
WessexMario
7th Dec 2018
4
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Inciting violence is a crime in itself.
Lionel
18th Dec 2018
2
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No Wilf, riots such as North West Europe is now seeing are not a good idea. However, such is the heat in our nation today it may well come to that. I've thought for a good while now civil war might be the only way to lance the boils among us.

As an aside, it's with noting that ... up to the last post of December 10th well over half the posters registered on Surfers within just hours of posting their opinions. And ... six, and maybe more, posts in favour of remain were either identical to or so similarly worded as corresponding ones in the Mail and Express online. Cut and paste?

Given the voting pattern here it seems to me a concerted effort by an unseen hand has influenced this topic to such an extent I feel it doesn't represent the views of the genuine Surfers community.

What do you think?
Wilf
18th Dec 2018
2
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Lionel-I am not sure the Brits will ever have another Civil War-we prefer tea to anarchy. Anyway who would it be between? the North and South? Monarchists and Parliamentarians? Brexiteers and Remainders? I didnt notice the posts-I will have a look now> Its possible that trolls effect outcomes of these polls but most people seem very genuine. I hope you are well as I havnt seen you on here for a bit! All the best Wilf
Lionel
19th Dec 2018
0
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Wilf, thank you for your concern. I needed to absent myself from everything for a while to sort myself out. The family fallout from my step grandson's suicide in July has been far more profound and far reaching them anyone could have expected. It was a lot like May's Brexit negotiations with, I trust, a more acceptable and positive outcome for all remaining. But it all took a toll on me.
Wilf
19th Dec 2018
3
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So sorry to hear that sad news of your Lionel and I obviously had no idea. Wishing you and your family the very best especially at this special time of the year.
Lionel
19th Dec 2018
0
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Thank you Wilf. Your thoughts are really appreciated. We'll get back to our usual banter early in the New Year.
AndrewM7
7th Dec 2018
17
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Remain should be an option.
We owe our offspring the best chance of a future, economically, opportunities, travel, education etc living alongside our fellow Europeans.
JuneW88
6th Dec 2018
19
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I didn't enter your poll: "What would you like to see happen if parliament decides not to vote for the current deal?" This i because it's biased to Brexit.

There should be a choice of "REMAIN in the EU" because we already have an excellent deal that we will never get again.
jentie51
7th Dec 2018
8
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JuneW88, I so agree with you.
JAM
7th Dec 2018
5
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SallyL2
6th Dec 2018
15
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As a sort of 'point of order' - there should be only 3 options in this poll.
There is absolutely no question of any further negotiation with the EU. Both sides have made that clear.
If a 4th point is required, it should be 'Remain in the EU', because that IS an option, via the withdrawl of the Article 50 notification.
SallyL2
6th Dec 2018
10
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Does nobody here understand what a 'no deal Brexit' would mean?
Please watch this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OtkP3Hkc1cM&feature=youtu.be
LoisKS
6th Dec 2018
-12
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The choice on the ballot paper in 2016 was to leave the EU or remain in the EU. That was it. No mention of any sort of deal, just to stay or go. The government said it would carry out the result, whatever it was. And it was by majority decision, even if it was 50% plus one single vote, that was it. 17.4 million people voted to leave. Since then, we have had no end of obstacles being flung into the part to exit, delaying tactics, project fear mark 2, the lot. We who voted to leave have been branded stupid, ill educated, "ray-cists" who did not know what we were voting for. Well, I knew - for me it was to take back sovereignty of our country! I think we should just get out and trade under WTO rules. The government should have been preparing for that option from day 1; their failure to plan is a scandal and a disgrace.
AndrewM7
7th Dec 2018
8
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Garage, Johnson and both leave camps said we would remain in free market.
People quote WTO as a good option, 20 countries have objected to UK schedule, so deal in water.
Are you proposing becoming 51st state of USA with Trump in charge?
Gingernut49
7th Dec 2018
11
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We've always had sovereignty - otherwise we would have had the euro by now. Not every EU law is voted in by Parliament. We cannot trade under WTO rules. Do please research what that means!
https://news.sky.com/story/traffic-chaos-and-school-dinners-at-risk-in-no-deal-brexit-kent-council-warns-11573490
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
0
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If John Major had had his way we would be in the euro. Look at his fiasco with the ERM!
LyndaR5
6th Dec 2018
-6
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Give us what we voted for - Brexit! No deal!
Carol Barrow
6th Dec 2018
-2
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The majority vote was leave the EU . They are now scaremongering the £ will be worth even less . Exactly like it was when we went decimal to join the Common Market 1971 the value of the £ was cut by more than half Also we didn't vote to join . And definitely not to be members of the EU . This was the biggest con ever , against the people of Britain . The ordinary hard working men and women who live here ..
GillB7
6th Dec 2018
2
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17 out of 65 mil voted Leave, many thought it was advisory as act said, so didn't bother. I voted on in 1973 and still have same opinion despite the four pillars of governance growth in EU power, who just our Govt voted for.
JayM
7th Dec 2018
10
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Let’s deal in facts - we did not decimalise to join the Common Market - the value of the £ was not cut by half - we voted by an overwhelming majority to stay in the EC in 1975 and it was clear at the time and has always been that the direction of travel politically was “ever closer union”. The UK has been more reserved about this than some members and currently has a number of special arrangements attached to its membership - we get a significant rebate on our membership fees; we are not part of the Schengen open borders arrangement and control our own borders; we are not part of the Euro and retain our own currency. As a member, we also have a veto on the vast majority of EU laws which must pass through the European Parliament where we have 73 MEPs elected by proportional representation. That’s why the best deal for us is to disregard the lies, misrepresentation and ignorance of the Leaver millionaires (such as Rees-Mogg) and stay a member of the EU.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
0
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Very democratic. We were lied to in 1973 as we are being lied to by the likes of Clegg and remain mp's now. What about all the rules that do not get voted on. If Europe is so democratic why are there so many remainders who obviously do not believe in democracy?
MarionB6
6th Dec 2018
-8
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We voted to leave we must leave the options given are worse than being in the EU we must leave with no deal and pay no money, we are only to pay on an agreement as the EU has blocked us and laughed at us they get nothing
CarolanneW
7th Dec 2018
6
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Firstly the Eu hasn't blocked anything and nor are they laughing.
They are puzzled by the fact that they know that the UK has an excellent deal now and cannot understand why the people would want to be poorer and find life so difficult. Quite frankly neither do I?
We pay in to eu certainly but we get far more back in return. Our problems socially are all caused by our own government and the EU and UN have asked the UK to invest and improve our lives as 14 million are now in poverty due to govt failures to act.
We can revoke A50 and remain as we are in EU and start investing n our own society which is badly overdue. We can increase pensions we are currently lowest in table for a start and we can tackle housing and benefits too. The Eu was not to blame for our problems our govt done this
Gingernut49
7th Dec 2018
8
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So you think we'd walk away without paying our debts? If you buy a car on hire purchase can you stop paying and keep the car? Would anyone lease you a car again? If we default on our agreement with the largest trade organisation, no-one would offer us any trade deal at all.
Maybe you should stop listening to Farage and Moggy. Even Mogg says we'll be okay in 50 years.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
-1
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Sorry " we get far more back". In What sense? We give them billions they take a huge chunk of it and give loads to other countries then give us a few crumbs.
Neil_P
6th Dec 2018
-5
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Whatever the sentiments - there was a vote held and the result was to leave, Ignore this and you destroy all credibility in the democratic process - no ne will ever bother voting again because there will be no point - the losing side will just kick-off until they get a vote they want.
That said the ideal would have been to leave the EU equalby with a fair deal as regards trade and movement etc. The probelm with that is the EU in its current form is run by Germany and France for the enefit of Germany and France. MErkels puppets, verhofstadt, arnier and Tusk, have done waht their puppet mistress had told them to do do and made the leaving proxess os hard as possible - presumably thinking that if they put enough diffiluties in the way the British would vae and say "OK we're staying". Sadly thoe who do not read history and roomed to repeat it - Merkel and Macron should have taken that lesson to heart. It didnt work in 1914, it didn't work in 1939 or at any other point in history after 1066. As a result of their attitude the best deal now of rthe UK is to leave with no deal. last figures I saw said 80% of our trade with the EU was buying from them and only 20% was selling to them so a no deal Brecit hurts the EU far more than us.
We prospered in the world prior to being conned by Heath into joining the EEC full time so I see no reason why we will not prosper again. All it needs is the right will of the people and the politicians.
CarolanneW
7th Dec 2018
9
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we didn't prosper pre EU we were stagnating with age old industries failing. Our manufacturing was on its knees and unemployment was rife. We signed up n the first place because of this and have seen steady growth and fairly stable economy ever since don't let others kid you.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
-1
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And how much manufacturing have we lost to Europe since the likes of Poland, Portugal and others joined?
Wilf
22nd Dec 2018
0
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Probably hardly any most of it has been lost to China through their much lower production costs
SheilaF
6th Dec 2018
-2
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We voted to Leave, We won. No brainer, no going back.
Wilf
7th Dec 2018
8
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Its not a question of winning anything. Its a question of if we do leave and its a disaster economically which it could be we will all loose
PATRICIACOTTON
6th Dec 2018
-11
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The majority result of the referendum was to leave, so the sooner we do the better, no deal just walk away, enough of the EU messing about.
mick2e1hzm
6th Dec 2018
-13
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I voted to leave and seeing the disrespect that the EU is showing us proves I was right, they had no intention of doing any sort of a deal, a lotof people will scoff but we are their 3 largest market, look at the trade deficit, and we don't have free trade we pay for it any the 52% of exports to other countries we pay a tariff on them to the EU we are a cash cow, a lot of people who voted remain should read what will happen if we stay in, Guy Verhofstat says we will be classed as new members with no rebates and no opt-out clause, and to those scoffer no we will not be aloud to remain as we are now, why do you think they are using Ireland as a club, and saying their way or no way
Dave VX
6th Dec 2018
7
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I believe that we should remain a full member of the EU rather than moving into the unknown. There is strength in numbers and we cannot be sure that as an individual nation we would be capable of defending our economy. We would definately be better as a member of a group of nations trading with each other without tarifs and defending each other.
smreynard
6th Dec 2018
-1
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Look what happened to Greece and Italy's economies?
JuneW88
6th Dec 2018
5
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Thank you Dave, some common sense among the negative comments. I only joined to see if what was reported was right, that a large proportion of the older people voted Leave. I'm trying to fathom out how they managed to think this way, or not think, it seems?
Wilf
7th Dec 2018
10
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I think a lot of people over 50 are unsure about leaving the EU. I for one am! I did not vote to become poorer or my family for that matter!
RonA5
6th Dec 2018
14
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I cannot take part in your poll because it does not include the option -- revoke Article 50, scrap Brexit, Remain full members of the EU.
smreynard
6th Dec 2018
-9
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Why would anyone want to stay in the EU?
JuneW88
6th Dec 2018
9
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Me too. I will never answer any question without the chance to Remain. That's the common sense answer.
Wilf
7th Dec 2018
10
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Biggest and wealthiest trading bloc globally..quite a good reason!
Wilf
20th Dec 2018
0
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Probably because it looks like we will all be a lot poorer if we leave. Why would we want to leave the richest trading bloc globally? Yes we could trade elsewhere BUT the USA is already our largest trading partner and China for example have their own focuses and I am not sure trading more with the UK is one of them.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
0
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Because we can better deal with the rest of the world which is a much bigger bloc than Europe.
Wilf
22nd Dec 2018
1
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yes but the USA and China account for about another 50% of world trade. The USA is already our largest trading partner. China is huge as well. Who else are as big-Africa? South America?
MalcolmW3
6th Dec 2018
4
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This is already decided by the EU,remember the trip to show the Germans the proposals before the cabinet.
I have voted all my adult life but the standards of the politicians there are in parliament is appalling.I have no respect for them and as such will never vote again.It is a pointless exercise which they show every day by their actions.
JuneW88
6th Dec 2018
8
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You have to be joking? Have you not seen just one day of the shower in the UK Parliament?
AlanB57
6th Dec 2018
-18
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I voted leave.and will vote the same again I shall not be swayed by bulling threatening behavior by the EU. Or by lying greedy politions only looking out for themselves and making scaremongering statements that I class as high treason
In days gone by they would have no hrads
keithsooty
6th Dec 2018
-5
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We shouldn't even have to have another vote .It was won fair and square .Leave now .
CarolanneW
7th Dec 2018
4
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If anyone is treasonous its the leave campaigners our own Prime minister. They know fine well this is bad for the country and its people, they know only the wealthy will prosper and thrive. This is diabolical what they are proposing to do to us. We must remain and clear out those that are their to profit from politics
Ryder
6th Dec 2018
2
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The majority voted to leave the EU and Theresa May said she would do as the people had decided but did the opposite. She did not want to leave so was the wrong person to lead the negotiations. Do not believe the doom and gloom merchants. This country will thrive without the EU's interference.
Gingernut49
7th Dec 2018
4
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Even Mogg says it will take at least 50 years before we benefit.
Have you not researched the consequences?
There is no deal better than the one we currently enjoy as members of the EU.
LyndaG3
6th Dec 2018
1
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I voted to leave and have not changed my mind,
If anything I am more determined that I want to get out. The way the EU have treated us during these so called negotiations is absolutely disgusting. And if anyone thinks that they will treat us better if we stay in after all this well think again.
Not one of those people who have ruled over us and want keep doing it was ever voted in. So undemacratic. Also we owe them nothing. They owe us for helping rebuild their countries after the war. Have they ever repaid us? NO.
linj
6th Dec 2018
-25
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Agree with everything LyndaG3 says.
smreynard
6th Dec 2018
-11
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They have never liked us, only our money!
keithsooty
6th Dec 2018
-3
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My dad fought in the war and risked his life to free them and thousands of others died for there freedom . My dad was lucky , he survived else I wouldn't be here now , but thousands of others weren't so lucky , Like you said we owe them nothing but they owe us a hell of a lot .
JuneW88
6th Dec 2018
17
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The whole of the EU Allies risked their lives. You wouldn't have your freedom now if it wasn't for them all working with the UK. Five beaches for the invasion, three of them non-British ..... In with the Brits were guys from the EU27 and more. The most casualties were the Sikhs, more than any other country. The UK could never have managed alone but HEY, you want them to go it alone. Good luck with that!
MalcolmW9
7th Dec 2018
20
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The overwhelming majority of British WW2 veterans voted YES to Europe in 1975, including both my parents. (My mother was a Royal Navy nurse).
LibbyW51
7th Dec 2018
8
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Both my parents too. Mum in the WAAF and Dad in the Army and I also voted to remain in Europe in the 1975 vote, so if remain means remain why did we have this ridiculous Brexit fiasco anyway? It was clearly undemocratic to go against the will of the people.
Colinhuttley
23rd Dec 2018
0
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Because we did not vote to join the eu in 1975 we voted to join the EEC. The politicians then started selling us down the river.
Eeyore
6th Dec 2018
12
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The option to #RevokeA50 and also #NoBrexit should be reflected in your poll to have complete coverage of all options.
Marley444
6th Dec 2018
4
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As much as I would like another referendum, as I think the outcome would be different, I think another referendum would divide the country.
Eeyore
6th Dec 2018
5
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The country is already divided! Split down the middle! Time this government did the decent thing and admitted it is not in the best interest of the country to leave the EU.
GeoffR5
6th Dec 2018
41
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The country IS divided.
MalcolmW3
6th Dec 2018
3
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And what happens if the result is the same?
mick2e1hzm
6th Dec 2018
-2
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They will want the best out of three that's the EU way, they have done it before in other EU countries,
keithsooty
6th Dec 2018
-5
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They will want another vote .And they will keep asking for another vote until they get the vote they want
CarolanneW
7th Dec 2018
3
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the country is very divided anyway, the best thing is for people to have a final say now because a lot have changed their minds because of the illegal leave campaign. I dont think going through with a brexit based on 2016 vote is viable now. We all need another say
LibbyW51
7th Dec 2018
5
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A bit late to worry about division I'm afraid as that is exactly what we have, caused by the false promises and lies about the false non-EU utopia in no small part I believe.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
-1
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Why should we go with the remoaners minority. As undemocratic as the rest of Europe.
SheilaB83
6th Dec 2018
0
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I believe the EU have made the negotiations so difficult, because they don’t want us to leave ( don’t want to lose our very large contributions). Their usual tactics if any member doesn’t agree with them is to keep putting it to the vote until they do. Which is why they have backed us into this corner. I just hope the U.K. stick to their original vote to leave. The Absolute worst case scenario would be to hold a general election. With the toxic atmosphere at the moment, Corbyn might just get in. Even though, his government couldn’t get a deal any better than the one on the table. And we would be left with a Marxist Communist Government that would bring the country to its knees. Just look at all the far left governments in the world. Not one of them has been successful.
Eeyore
6th Dec 2018
11
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The EU is rules and treaty based. EU set out from day 1 how it would be according to those rules and treaties. We are looking at a 'Withdrawal Agreement' (not a deal), based around the rules and treaties with some concessions where it is possible to make them.
GeoffR5
6th Dec 2018
4
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Congratulations on believing all the lies peddled by the media and our corrupt government. Just look at the state of the country and the mess that May and her toxic cronies have got us in. Corbyn is the only way of getting us out of the mess and the next general election can't come soon enough. Let's hope it happens before May gets her way and cripples our once great nation.
mick2e1hzm
6th Dec 2018
6
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Corbyn will make it worse he has been told that is the only deal, and after he called the EU he has no chance, just remember that 20 Labour held seats voted leave and the way Corbyn has lied to all those Labour leave voters no one will trust him and momentum will remove all MPs who support leaving
LibbyW51
7th Dec 2018
0
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Marxist? You are joking where on earth do you get your information? He and the Labour party are barely left of centre and are Socialist not Marxist. They want a fairer society not this evil regime in which we live now.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
0
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Sorry do not want a communist politburo.
Maryel
6th Dec 2018
-2
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Northern Ireland mp's are calling the shots so we need a general election to stop them having so much power.
you left out the option of withdrawing article 50 and staying in the EU until we can withdraw without the chaos.
mick2e1hzm
6th Dec 2018
4
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Northern Ireland is part of the UK just the same as Wales and Scotland, as for withdrawing with out the chaos that is not what the EU wants we leave they will lose Billions and not just the £350 billion we pay for free trade but also the tariffs on the exports we do to other countries that come to another £49 billion
TrudyLS
6th Dec 2018
6
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I am so fed up of hearing that people who voted leave did not know what they were voting for. A very expensive booklet was delivered to every household outlining what a leave vote would mean. That is what I voted for and what I expected when leave won the vote. The time spent on negotiations should have been spent on upholding the result of the referendum and not on trying to stay in
deb1712
6th Dec 2018
-2
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I agree. I actually didn’t need to listen to anyone before I voted Leave. I’d lived through it! There has been so much time and money wasted since we voted Out. The EU must be terrified of no deal and no divorce settlement. The sooner it’s sorted, the better.
JuneW88
7th Dec 2018
10
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You mean the biased booklet? Don't forget it was all lies, both campaigns lied but behind Leave there was and still is a very dark area. It's being investigated .... oh, you must have read about it and heard about it? Surely? Put on any other media than the Brexit Broadcasting Service, they are still biased. Murdoch will be upset but never mind.

So Banks and Bannon are your bedfellows? Be careful who else is behind it all. You should know if you have studied the politic shambles this last two years.
CarolanneW
7th Dec 2018
4
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trouble is the statements made from the leave side were not correct and it appears our own government did not realise the significance of what we get from the EU deal
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
0
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I do believe they mean the biased booklet that stated we should remain. Paid for by taxpayers money. All the lies in that have not occurred. The likes of Clegg and Carmel who said the country would collapse. Strange, it got better. We should just have to Europe we are going and put nothing on the table and then negotiated.
Rotweiller
6th Dec 2018
-15
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I've not voted in your poll. There wasn't a choice of "Just get us out - no deal".
Pauline52
6th Dec 2018
10
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The first option is 'continue with Brexit with no deal'.
smreynard
6th Dec 2018
1
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Yes there is that option.
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I think you will find that is the first option 😉
CarolanneW
7th Dec 2018
4
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No deal actually means we leave without any trading deals. Thats why we would have food shortages and empty shelves in supermarkets, no medications and no jobs.
NO deal is not a viable option whatsoever.
PeterT5
6th Dec 2018
1
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Sad to see so many people taken in by project fear, we have not been better off in the E U , the vote was LEAVE, we have remainer negotiators, that’s why we are in this position. The EU need us more than we need them.
Gardenmad
6th Dec 2018
0
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I bet your Sally, your Silversurfers Editor, is no more than 30. Her suggestion that calls for a 2nd referendum are "ever increasing" are hardly borne out by the figures shown in your survey (24% at the time of writing) but I guess we're all a bit older than her!
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I'll take that as a compliment! I am actually well into my 50s ... and the reference to a 2nd referendum is not what our over 50s community is suggesting, this is in the press, which is why we published to poll. We always like to give our community the opportunity to speak out 🙂
JuneW88
7th Dec 2018
8
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I'm probably a damned sight older than most of you and I voted REMAIN. I remember all the trouble the UK had while I was growing up. The feeling of claustrophobia when I wanted to get out and see the World. Well, you lot have taken that away from my great grandchildren. They may never have the freedom that I have. Shame on you all who voted Leave, a selfish and greedy vote.
JuneW88
7th Dec 2018
9
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Then add the option to revoke Article 50 and Remain.
TrudyLS
7th Dec 2018
-7
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How does leaving the EU stop anyone from seeing the world? How does it impact on anyones freedom. That is just another part of project fear distorting facts. We can live and work anywhere with a passport and a work permit just like I lived and worked in Germany. Plus the world is bigger than Europe.
Gardenmad
7th Dec 2018
1
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Junew88 you are being very naughty. We must be able to disagree without accusations of selfishness and greed. (though how they are applicable I don't know). I don't know what "trouble" you refer to when you were growing up but joining the EEC did not cure it. By the way the second E stood for 'economic' and that is all we originally intended. As for claustrophobia, I and most others did not experience it, nor did anything stop us travelling. Leaving the EC will make no difference whatsoever to people travelling to or from Europe or the rest of the world.

I and many of the 17.4 million voted for a better future for our grand-children (5 and 2 step-grandchildren in my case). You may have a different view and please feel free to express it, but not by being rude about those with as strongly held views as yours.

Anyway, our politicians seem determined to muck the whole thing up so there is little we can do but sit back and wait for the final result.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
0
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I have been ot to see the world mostly outside Europe. Never been a problem.
Pete H
6th Dec 2018
-18
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Well what a mess we are in. After all the lies from the brexiteers and project fear from the remainers - unsurprisingly nothing that was promised by either side during the referendum campaign can actually be delivered. Thanks Mr Cameron for agreeing to a ludicrous In/Out referendum in the first place.

I hope Mrs May's deal is passed and we can leave and move on with some semblance of common sense. However petty infighting from the tories and the absence of any sensible alternatives from the inept opposition means we are in a Brexit stalemate and heading for a no deal carnage Brexit.

The EU are unlikely to renegotiate, a general election will solve nothing and a referendum will split the country even further - it's time for the politicians to look after the best interests of all of us and just vote the deal through so we can move on. It's not perfect but it's vastly better than the horrifically destructive alternatives.
Half pint
6th Dec 2018
-15
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Good to see that not everyone has forgotten that Cameron and his policy makers used the promise of a Brexit referendum as a vote winner and when it came back to bite him he threw his dummy out of the pram and resigned! He should have been made to carry out his promise or immediately called another General Election saying "I was lying and I've been caught out", not just passed the poison chalice on to Mrs May! He should now be brought back to sort HIS mess out!
I'd still vote to get out!
CharlesN
6th Dec 2018
5
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There is no deal available that is better than the one we already have.
Eeyore
6th Dec 2018
7
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Bravo CharlesN! Finally a comment making sense!
JimS9
6th Dec 2018
-18
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I would accept the deal
Wilf
6th Dec 2018
10
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I do not want to become poorer. What difference has the EU had to the average Brit over the last 40 years. Result we are all a lot better off than in 1973 with 3 day working weeks etc. I remember those days. We had no car, no phone, food was terrible, no holidays, no work. Now UK is 5 th richest global economy part of the EU the biggest trading bloc globally. The 1st referendum was a farce. We were lied to by both sides. The government should calmly lay out the facts both stay and go and let the public decided properly instead of this shambolic fiasco.
Half pint
6th Dec 2018
5
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Politicians have and will always lie! We all had the opportunity to decide which lies were most plausible! If we rerun the referendum we should rerun the election in which it was promised! Unfortunately time only moves in one direction.
Eeyore
6th Dec 2018
23
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JuneW88
7th Dec 2018
8
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Thank God, some common sense x
Wilf
7th Dec 2018
2
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Thanks June! It is a matter of common sense. Who would want to be worse off than we are now? Doesn't make sense.
TrudyLS
7th Dec 2018
4
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I am so sorry you had such an awful childhood Wilf. We only had a small wage in our house and my mum had to work part time and bring up 5 kids while Dad was abroad working. We had great food, mum was a brilliant cook, we had a phone on the table in the hall, we had a tv and went on holidays in a caravan. I remember the electricity strikes, bread shortages etc etc, nothing to do with the EU though
Wilf
7th Dec 2018
8
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Hi Trudy, Many thanks. I probably gave the wrong impression. I had a wonderful childhood. Free of cares and great fun. My point was the UK in those days was a lot lot poorer than now and we do not want to go back. Brexit for me is not easy. There are benefits of being in and out of the EU. The main point is we do not want to become poorer as a nation and we have all been lied to by the politicians who are actually our servants. This is the incredible part. they DO NOT rule us we put them in Parliament to serve OUR needs not lie to us and create a mess!
KeithT43
6th Dec 2018
-4
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Let's get out then negotiate what WE want from Eu
JacquelineD8
6th Dec 2018
27
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Stay in. Let's be citizens of Europe, not "little Englanders"
Half pint
6th Dec 2018
-9
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And wave goodbye to democracy??
Eeyore
6th Dec 2018
10
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Absolutely agree with you!
Gingernut49
7th Dec 2018
5
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What could be more democratic than allowing the people to vote for their future?
Of course, if you're taken in by the lies of the Express, Mail or Sun, then there's no hope!
TrudyLS
7th Dec 2018
-2
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We will still be part of Europe, you don't have to be in the EU to be part of Europe, it is a geographical location, The Island of Britain can't move.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
0
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Sorry I though we had done that even with all the lies from the likes of Clegg and Carney and the other remoaners.
HannahA5
6th Dec 2018
8
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Leaving with no deal is not the "no big deal" that some politicians make it out to be. It would leave us with absolutely no negotiating power with anyone. Any country outside Europe would rather trade with the EU than with a UK in an unknown situation. We'd be outside the single market, we still wouldn't be able to trade with the EU without observing their standards (supposing they even wanted to trade with us!) and the Irish question would still be unresolved. It would be tantamount to leaving in a tantrum, cutting off our nose to spite our face. Now that we know so much more about the reality of the situation than we did in 2016, let's go back to the ballot box and make an informed decision.
Pauline52
6th Dec 2018
2
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My decision in 2016 was informed thank you. If you didn’t arm yourself with more details than the headlines, that’s your problem.
MalcolmW3
6th Dec 2018
0
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You must have had better info the me.We have been bombarded constantly by the most negative comments by the media and the government.Digby Jone is a very respected businessman who, having run large companies, states that a no deal is not be feared and an opportunity to prosper in time.
Politicians,I am afraid, have lost my trust and the majority do not wish the leave the EU,which a cynic could infer,effects their input in the process.
JuneW88
7th Dec 2018
9
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Well, you obviously didn't. Can't you see what has happened? Russian interference and Leave taking money worked the campaign in that direction. Why do you think the Remain campaign was so weak? It beggars belief that nobody thinks for themselves!
Already the'plan' worked out by a far right organisation is winning and you are playing into their hands. Now go back and read some more, not just one book or paper and you will see what I'm talking about. We were in a democracy and May is taking us down the road to dictatorship. We will arrive fully soon, unless it is stopped.
TrudyLS
7th Dec 2018
-3
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how would it be an informed decision as no one knows what will happen until we actually have left
TrudyLS
7th Dec 2018
-13
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How was the remain campaign so week, right from the start they have shouted doom doom and more doom. Some people just have more faith in the abilities of people in Britain than those who think that they are useless without the EU . Russian interference hahahahah, yes your right Russia told me what to do. Go back and read some more haha your arrogance is amazing.
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
-1
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Actually the dictatorship is Europe just look at the right wing groups rising there bit like the 1930's.
Carol6
6th Dec 2018
-2
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Carol Amison
If it had been dealt with as the voters voted for none of this would of happened. The result was leave. Not negotiate a deal which kept the Leavers AND the Remainers happy. The Leave vote won. That is what should of been acted on. If a vote is lost then it is lost. Leave won so now just do it with or without a deal
Wilf
6th Dec 2018
23
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But we did not know all the issues then and the British public were lied to. Best to have another referendum me thinks.
Pauline52
6th Dec 2018
2
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We knew the issues as well then as we do now - it’s entirely your responsibility to make sure you’re properly informed before placing your cross in the box. If you think you were lied to then, why are you so sure you’re not being lied to now?
Colinhuttley
22nd Dec 2018
-1
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Yes lied to by the remoaners.
Wilf
22nd Dec 2018
1
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Actually lied to by both sides. Boris is a total joke. £350m a week back into the NHS when we leave the EU.mmmmm. The remainers are slightly better as they are dealing with what we already know. The issue with them and the Eu is do we want to be part of a huge federal Republic of c400 million people ie the EU-No Thanks!
Gingernut49
23rd Dec 2018
0
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"Remoaners"? Grow up!
SarahS47
6th Dec 2018
22
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Stay in the EU! No argument as far as I'm concerned. The whole thing is just lunacy!
Half pint
6th Dec 2018
0
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Another non-believer in the democratic vote!!
Gilldee
6th Dec 2018
10
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I would actually tell them where to go .we're leaving job done ,we cannot have a second referendum that is not democracy we voted out get us out.....
Wilf
6th Dec 2018
6
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Yes but now we know more about the ramifications of Brexit and what it will do to the economy we would be fools to leave
No One
6th Dec 2018
12
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Democracy allows people to change their minds. If you voted for one political party at a general election and they failed to deliver on their promises then you are free to vote for a different party at the next opportunity, That is democracy. This idea that there was a vote and everyone is stuck with whatever outcome forever is total nonsense. To be able to change your mind, learn from your experiences, change your beliefs or priorities is a right that so many fought and died for. I think you mistake dictatorship for democracy.
Wilf
6th Dec 2018
9
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You make a very good point here. I have not heard this argument its exactly like electing a government. We voted for out...we learn its a fiasco and not what we were promised and we will all get pooer ...or maybe not? and so we should be allowed to vote again.
Wilf
6th Dec 2018
7
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You make a very good point here. I have not heard this argument its exactly like electing a government. We voted for out...we learn its a fiasco and not what we were promised and we will all get poorer ...or maybe not? and so we should be allowed to vote again.
Pauline52
6th Dec 2018
-2
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But the winner would have a chance to try wouldn’t they? The vote has not yet been honoured - ergo how can anyone know that it doesn’t work?
Pauline52
6th Dec 2018
1
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But we don’t know do we? If the vote is never put into effect, we’ll just carry on having referendum after referendum- and democracy dies.
Half pint
6th Dec 2018
-8
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Brexit was a democratic vote and was promised to win a General Election, therefore by your reasoning Cameron should have called another General Election to maintain democracy. By resigning he was saying that the EU was more important than British democracy! I don't recall anyone asking for a rerun of the General Election on the basis that it was won on blatant lies. Sounds like double standards to me!
Wilf
7th Dec 2018
6
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Thats the point Pauline I think we should have a second referendum. take our time. Get all the facts down on a website and in the papers on one page. Simple for and against maybe written by an independent body and then lets all vote properly.
TrudyLS
7th Dec 2018
-4
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You cant vote out a party until the next election so how can you have a second vote before the first vote has even been implemented
Colinhuttley
23rd Dec 2018
0
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The promise was if we vote to leave leave it will be. Oh then the non democratic minority stepped in and a remoaners took over the helm. May is the problem.
Colinhuttley
23rd Dec 2018
0
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Isn't every general election won on lies and deceit of politicians?
Wilf
23rd Dec 2018
0
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The problem is we the electorate were lied to. The information was rubbish. Who would you suggest would do a better Job than May?
LeighB
6th Dec 2018
0
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Leave at the end of March as scheduled. 2 years of preparation have been lost but I'm sure U.K. Inc. after a brief dip will power ahead once we have got rid of the eu millstone.
MrsPat
6th Dec 2018
9
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The most sensible option would be for a second referendum to settle this for once and for all. Mrs Mays proposal does not seem popular so what is the point of pursuing it? I still do not understand it. Why don't we get a view of it in the newspapers or on a website-just a concise view so the average British person can understand it.
Wilf
6th Dec 2018
8
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I agree have a 2nd vote
Pauline52
6th Dec 2018
-5
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'Once and for all'? Like the first referendum you mean?
Half pint
6th Dec 2018
-1
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So if it went leave again we could have a third and carry on ad infinitum until it goes your way? Or if it was remain we could have the best of three! Democracy as I understand it is ONE MAN OR WOMAN (better stay PC), ONE VOTE, ONE TIME! Decision made!!
JuneW88
7th Dec 2018
9
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You don't get a view because they don't want to tell us too much. It's for us to read as many academic papers we can, not the Depress, the Daily Fail or Bum newspapers but decent scientific papers. Watch the stock exchange. Have you noticed that as soon as there's a negative remark, ie saying there will be Brexit, the pound plummets. This is when the elite buy in. Then when it picks up, they sell. Didn't you realise. Brexit is making the rich get richer. We will get poorer, that is a certainty. It's all been done to avoid taxes and also, the state pension would be due to be regulated to a higher level in line with the EU. Of course the government don't want that! Plus the infiltration by Russia, now that's a big one and needs a book to explain! Just think what's happened so far that is negative. This isn't the end ..... not by a long chalk.
Colinhuttley
23rd Dec 2018
0
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Another one who thinks democracy is keep having referendums until the minority's get what they want.
Bald123
6th Dec 2018
7
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I have never seen such a debacle as Brexit-what a joke. The original referendum was all a pack of lies from both sides. The only option is to have another referendum. If we vote out gain fine lets go out. If we vote to stay in lets forget Brexit and get on with life.
TrudyLS
7th Dec 2018
-4
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The problem with a second referendum is that they want more than in or out on the ballot paper in order to thin out the result. If a second referendum is to be democratic and uphold the result of the first referendum than it can only be either of 2 options. Leave with a proposed deal or leave with no deal

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