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Do you think the tactics of Extinction Rebellion are justified?

Eco-activists Extinction Rebellion have swarmed the City of London this week again, and have caused maximum disruption.

The protests have closed roads and stopped public transport and this morning commuters fought back against Extinction Rebellion environment protesters, as an activist was dragged to the floor after climbing on top of a busy commuter train in east London.

Holding a sign which read ‘Business as usual = death’, the protesters were met with shouting from angry waiting commuters.

Police have ordered climate change protesters to stop their action immediately or face arrest, in an effort to put an end to more than a week’s disruption in London.

“This is an emergency, and an outrage. The police must respect the law. This is a democracy.” said one protester.

What are your views? Are these activists going about their protest in an effective way? Do you support their actions? Or is this action counterproductive?

Do you think the tactics of Extinction Rebellion are justified?

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thetruth67
5 days ago
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Patrick Moore, a co-founder of Greenpeace, says that most scientists who insist that the earth is in human caused climate "crisis " ,subsist on tax payer funding, and as such must take that position if they want their funding to continue.
The banner heading this article shows fossil fuel = extinction. Fossil fuels saved massive deforestation says a geologist.
Solar and wind power are nowhere near as efficient as fossil fuels.
Electric cars are becoming popular nowadays, but they use Lithium to power their batteries. how is the Lithium mined ,Does it use fossil fuel powered machines to mine it?
P0Pcorn
5 days ago
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Yes and no.
There is plenty of evidence to support the doom sayers. The petro chemical industry knew back in the 50's - just revealed in an US courtroom. Rachel Carson Silent Spring 1962. David Attenborough - for decades.
But no they should not be disrupting the tubes. These are greener transport than the SUVs hanging round outside schools and making the air in the classrooms full of particulates, blocking the roads at drop off and home time. Doesn't any one walk anywhere any more?
Targeting the frequent flyer makes more sense.
Inadvisable tactics is their worst offence.
thetruth67
1st Nov 2019
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If there was a climate emergency of impending doom I may agree with their tactics, but there is not.
There is little scientific evidence to back up their claims. I have listened to numerous Meteorologists and Scientists on YouTube that deal in facts and the facts don't support CO2 as a factor that affects global warming.
There is big money funding XR. They have their agendas and I doubt it has anything to do with saving the planet.
P0Pcorn
5 days ago
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The scandinavians were pointing out the effects of acid rain back in the 1960's and having plenty of real science to behind it. DO you thibnk things have improved since then?
iestynlad
29th Oct 2019
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The right way to tackle climate change is to start limiting the production of people
P0Pcorn
5 days ago
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Blaming population and each other is not helpful. I would point at the petro chemical industry and other global corporations whose main drive is profit at any cost.
Cars, and why faster bigger should have been more efficient smaller.
Then there's land wrecking by fracking, deforrestation logging and more
sparrer
26th Oct 2019
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XR took a vote on the apalling action of the rebels who disrupted the tube trains and the result was a resounding No, do not do this, it will damage us for a very long time. But the rebels went ahead and gave the media and the population fuel for the fire that was barely smoking. XR, without these idiots, are bringing attention to possibly the most serious global matter we have ever faced. Politicians and corporations must take notice now because we are killing the world which is not ours to destroy.
Len33
26th Oct 2019
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Climbing on top of trains and gluing themselves to an aeroplane roof? What a crowd of hypocrites.
Everything in their lives has been man made for their (And our) convenience.
Stone me, the world has been warming up for a long time. Why do they think the ice age came to an end? It's a natural phenomena..........................get used to it!
They congregate from all over the place and how do they get there?
Public transport, cars, motor bikes and anything else that requires energy to propel it. Bikes have to be oiled and where does that come from. (Don't say, "Halfords!")
No, these people are panic mongering trouble makers that are just hell bent on causing as much mayhem as they can.
Greta Thunberg needs a size 9 up the arris!
Once upon a time they were referred to as 'hippies.'
Now they have a fancy title and have shortened that to XR.
I have a name for them.
Time Wasting And Trouble Seeking.
Shortened, to Twats!
P0Pcorn
5 days ago
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They are not panic mongering. There is plenty of real science to back up ideas.
Disrupting the tubes was a bad tactic because tubes are a much greener way to travel than all those SUVs.
Bad tactics is their worst fault.
Insults dont count as rational argument.
WellMan
25th Oct 2019
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Dear Mr Huck.. The health and survival of our species and planet will determine our survival or demise. Bad and undoubtedly wilful malintent by humans over the last 3 millenia has brought us to our knees with our heads on the chopping block.

The band wagons you see is the only way to attempt to make radical changes in human motivations and myopic perceptions.

Peacful approaches for cleaner "life" focused not "money" focused development since 1945 and before have been stone walled by all.

Their is no wiggle room or room for doing a "Nelson" that appears to see but turns a "blind eye" to anything but selfish intent. Costing us and our future generations to extinction.

We have created the solutions and have the incredible ability to make global improvements .... we need to take full responsibilty for what is destroying our planet and force changes. Anything less is failure and destruction of our life and planet.
John huck
21st Oct 2019
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While i agree with the principle of action for climate change..most of these people are jumping on the band wagon..bet everyone of them has a phone traveled to London by some form of transport,and left their rubbish behind ..So there just as bad as the rest
Onecott
22nd Oct 2019
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Yes I agree with your comments .
jeanmark
23rd Oct 2019
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John Huck it is worth noting that the inventor of the engine used a horse and cart every day of his life, He had to because that was all that was available at the time until he figured out how to make it easier.

The inventor of the light bulb worked by candle light.

The inventor of steel had a house full of iron.

People need to drive cars, ride on buses and trains because that is all that is available to them.

Participating in the world the way it is does not disqualify you from trying to improve it.
John huck
23rd Oct 2019
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i slightly agree but you cant call the the use of them if it makes this planet worse which most do ,then use them yourself..bit two faced really..while i agree you need to invent to move forward..surely disrupting peoples lives isnt the way to gain favour for the cause though.
jeanmark
24th Oct 2019
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I agree that disrupting people lives is not the best way for people to support you. In particularly when it hits the lower paid workers on zero hours contracts, many of whom will not get paid if they do not turn up, for what ever reason. My point was more about having no option but to use various forms of transport to arrive in the area of the protest. Surely that is being pragmatic rather than having double standards.
John huck
24th Oct 2019
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If the protest ever work but they dont here...But the question was do i agree with the protesters tactics.And my answer is simply no.Its not the protests its the hangers on and users these things attract. The effect it has isnt working on the people its aimed at .
jeanmark
24th Oct 2019
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I can't disagree with that argument. Protests rarely help the overall issue but does make those people protesting feel they are at least trying. After all, look at the suffragette movement and the disruptions they caused!
AndrewR2
1st Nov 2019
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Trying to determine where these wise words originated, including if they are yours?!
jeanmark
2nd Nov 2019
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They are not mine and I found them on a poster some time ago that had no reference of origin.
WellMan
21st Oct 2019
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For the sake of our planet and your ongoing families wake up and look beyond the money driven pinhole you are moulded into. XR needs all of us to join them to powerfully balance them by bringing your dynamic wisdom and ideas forward.

China and Russia in there own ways are addressing this life threatening reality regardless of what anyone thinks or wants to deny or ignore.

The reality is that we are one world that is not broken into small lands ... we are one planet. One planet that can not sustain the irresponsible profit makers for greed in the pretence of creating employment ... there are more slaves in our world than employed people.

Money can not buy another planet for all life to live on. We humans must use the fantastic creations we have made and intelligently use them as present day alternatives. Why use highly toxic concrete when we have created erosion and pollutant free polymers that are greatly stronger.

There is no need to return to the stone age as this knowingly ignores the incredible materials and resources we have. We have the answers to most of the issues. Water driven (not steam) cars was a reality nearly 100 years ago. Oil less mechanical joints invented around the same time.

Health care is the greatest polluters outside of the oil industry with massive plastic wastes and toxic drugs and hazardous and now unneeded surgery. All irresponsibly and greedily ignored at the expense of humanity and our one and only planet we have to survive and thrive on. I know this from my own endeavours.

XR (ordinary concerned people) needs all of us to help them improve through our contribution of balance and innovations to save our world.

Lie it or not we are gods ... no other species has created more or destroyed more than humans. We now desperately need to be a whole world more responsible than we are now.

If you are not part of the solution you are part of the destructive problem we all face.
stanleyk
24th Oct 2019
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What about the money driven climate changers?
FREEMUM
20th Oct 2019
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i dont agree with how XR are behaving. The pressure this puts on the already stretched Police, (which affects the public elsewhere waiting for an officer to arrive), the disruption of hardworking people just trying to get to work, who get disrupted enough by striking train drivers etc, the added pollution it causes with traffic jams, the danger it puts others in, taking children to these events, especially in school hours, is wrong, etc etc. You always get non peaceful activists getting in on the act, causing further disruption and violence.
I totally agree with their ideals, the whole world needs to make changes to stop the damage being done to the planet. some of the biggest nations offenders on pollution, are not taking it seriously. More eduction on what is happening and what can be done to change it, needs to happen. Everyone us can have an impact by changes to our lives. Good luck planet Earth.
Wap69
19th Oct 2019
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Get a life, & a job. The world has gone mad with these loons.??
Wilf
19th Oct 2019
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I think the intention is good but to make the UK and even more difficult the rest of the world carbon neutral by 2025 is I would think impossible unless we all go back to the stone age immediately...including them!
Wap69
19th Oct 2019
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Let them try this in Japan, or Russia.? I don't think so.!!
Wilf
19th Oct 2019
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Japan would be fine as they are a democracy. So is Russia but you are right XR would have a few problems there!
Garnett
19th Oct 2019
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Unfortunately the disillusion with our political system means that people have to take unpopular actions in the short term in order to get anything done. It's no good talking to your MP. As long they keep getting paid three times average full-time,pay whether they actually do anything or not (and most of them do the bare minimum), there is no incentive for them to do anything. XR should be concentrating their disruption on the personal lives of MPs not the general population. If you make them suffer then maybe they will come out of their apathy.
Shelfside
18th Oct 2019
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As an aside, IMO the major problem in the world today with regards to our ‘extinction’ is our ever growing population and all the needs that come with it.
If there was a plan or similar to halt our uncontrolled breeding for a generation or two, the planet would benefit greatly. We are the problem, our numbers, our needs and our deluded altruism.
Anyone out there remember the excellent C4 series ‘Utopia’? If you haven’t seen it, I thoroughly recommend that you do. On the net, DVD or wherever.
Pauljr
18th Oct 2019
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I'd have some sympathy for them if they did as they say.
Shelfside
18th Oct 2019
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Here goes...scumbags, vermin, naive, wastrels, a-socials, deluded, criminals, retarded, imbecilic, hippies, unwashed, virtue signallers, social justice warriors, brainwashed....

I’d go on, but I haven’t taken my blood pressure pill as yet...
Wilf
18th Oct 2019
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Some strong words here!
Shelfside
20th Oct 2019
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Not really. I was holding back, what I really think about this ill informed and evil rabble, would not see the light of day on this site.
You?
Wilf
20th Oct 2019
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I think the activity has raised awareness but we are now all aware so they should stop causing a nuisance and especially they should not be disrupting transport etc and making the police have to manage it all. They have enough to do. David Attenborough has raised all this to a high degree and has a new TV programme out that will be seen globally. When his Blue Planet was release in China 80 million people watched it online simultaneously and slowed the internet down. That is the type of awareness we need.
Shelfside
21st Oct 2019
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I think people by and large - those with half an ounce of intelligence that is - are aware of the issues and 'do their bit'. However, there will always be those that ignore any 'advice' for one reason or another. Watching a parade of unwashed morons banging drums, blowing whistles and dressing up like refugees from some dreamland medieval utopia will not change anybody's mind. And as for the more mature protagonists harping on about their grandchildren's future...
Nor will being bullied into thinking some teenage pigtailed Swede with bipolar symptoms is the messiah.
Even the 'science' being touted by these groups and their deluded followers is flawed. Wilf, if you have a few minutes or so to kill,have a look at this. I don't base my own thinking on messages like this, but it does ask some uncomfortable questions and hammers home some uncomfortable truths...(link is completely safe)
Shelfside
21st Oct 2019
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Seems I cannot post links on here, but if you are interested, google 'The Truth About Extinction Rebellion by Paul Joseph Watson', That should take you to the Youtube video I was referring to. Well worth a watch.
MargaretA99
18th Oct 2019
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How do these people get about cycling/walking I think not
Margaret Hart
18th Oct 2019
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The disruption on the tube trains was ludicrous as they are probably one of the cleanest forms of traffic. Would they rather have had all those passengers in dirty diesel taxis or worse all taking cars making the traffic and air worse. Many of these protestors are simply professional protesters and trouble makers who don’t care about any issues it is just an excuse to not work and really take their place in society. All they are doing is stopping people going about there normal business. I’m sure most of us want as much done as possible to get cleaner air and stop climate change which is obviously happening as has been proved by all the peculiar weather all over the world this year.
WellMan
18th Oct 2019
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Reality is that the world has been and continues to be destroyed by humans. Human activity if not the only contributors to our worlds destruction we evolved in millions of years ago are one of the major destructive forces. Human created toxins and polluters from creating toxic pollution from everyday “civilised” human activity from going to the loo to plastic in toothpaste to exhaust fumes of cars, planes, rockets and dropping the kids off at school then using aerosols for personal hygiene and air fresheners.

All this and not even touching issues such as power generation and switching on a light bulb LED or not. Glaciers are melting down, soil is being destroyed in new arid desert forming areas and inland seas have and are drying out of existence. Mining on a global scale never before being done creating massive shifts in bed rock and sedimentary strata's altering the stabilising pressures of the earths upper crust. Sink holes imploding by gravity made by humans.

What would you say to your future family generations if they survived what is happening on your watch being your responsibility. Sorry is always too little too late.

Humans must use there incredible creativity in making human life activity sustainable and life driven not money driven.

No one can go out to the shops and buy another planet Earth that all life depends upon for survival.

That is the reality and severity of the global situation humans have created and heavily contribute to natural and cosmic influences.

XR have a very difficult if not impossible task to get other humans to think outside of their little boxes and stop being mindlessly lazy because we live in a man made world of so called wealth and luxury.

Humans stonewall everything that rocks the boat and threatens money. XR are trying to shake us awake … your children and grand children of the world are screaming at you at the top of their voices. Please do not turn a deaf ear and blind eye or turn your hearing aids off or they will hate you for doing nothing for our worlds future.

XR are demonstrating but we need sustainable alternatives in every aspect of human life for human survival. We need all of us make great changes in attitudes, beliefs and ditch our focus on the shiny gold and money that will never buy a solution anywhere in the universe.

If you are not part of a solution you are very much the destructive problem and angry about XR.
Wilf
20th Oct 2019
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I totally agree with all your comments. the only problem with XR is "we understand...we have all got it" Now comes the difficult bit! How do we go carbon neutral asap in a fairly sensible way that does not cause more rift and possible bloodshed in the world? I have not seen the plan yet. This is the difficult part. Communicate the issues via media, come up with solutions. Ironically the UK with only 1% of carbon emissions is doing it fast-not fast enough but rapidly. Even the Chinese are moving very fast but have to do so on a much larger scale. India and countries like that not so much but then the average Indian only emits 2 tons of Carbon per annum vs USA average per person at 20...Methinks we need the USA to get leading this fast!
TeresaElaine
21st Oct 2019
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‘The children of the world’ ....as you put it....would starve to death if you prevent people from getting to work ...therefore ensuring that they cannot provide food for said children. In which case global warming would be irrelevant. So please think a great deal more carefully about what disruption you embrace. Frankly, I think you have already put your point across to the public. It would be more relevant....as expressed by a previous comment by Garnett.....to barrack MPs for quick action.
Myself, I am more inclined to listen to David Attenborough, then I don’t waste time questioning motives or agenda.
Lionel
17th Oct 2019
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In our democracy, although these days sorely tried by politicians, we have the right to peaceful protest. Greenham Common was peaceful, the Grosvenor Square anti Vietnam protest in 1968 was peaceful until mounted police charged us. CND were peaceful.

These protests today are not peaceful. It's a kind of war. It is anarchy, an out and out attempt to bring down governments by causing maximum civil disruption.

Anarchy is premeditated, organised, directed on the ground and financed. Anarchists use every weapon at their disposal to achieve their end. These days mass hysteria is a favourite. It's cheap, self reproducing and very effective. XR activities dwarf the national mass hysteria surrounding Princess Diana's death.

These behind the scenes anarchists are professionals. They know their trade and they're very rightly organised. You won't ever see the leaders, no, their minions take the wrap all the while believing theirs is a righteous and supremely urgent cause.

Hitler was supremely good at creating mass hysteria and thus manipulating his country. His skills cost at least 50 million precious lives.

What will be the ultimate cost of XR? Your guess is as good as mine.
Wilf
17th Oct 2019
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Lionel, Climate change is real and I agree with the sentiment of XR. I think many of your points are valid. they have made their point. We all get "it". Government and all of us need to change. I suspect many of the people on XR are the same old "rent a mob" I have read a lot over the years on climate change. I totally agree with the scientific view that it is a fact and the climate is changing fast due to man made factors. We are trying to do our bit by eating less meat and driving less. Do any of the XR folk know more than me? I doubt it unless they are climatic scientists.
Lionel
18th Oct 2019
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Wilf, I so wanted to reply this morning but a frenetic day got in the way.

We've discussed climate change before and we're not poles apart. Having studied Geology and historic climatology I attribute current changes primarily to natural factors and far less to the influence of man. Your point of view is different, but none the less equally valid.

I do not agree with the science of climate change, as you know. When the UN and the BBC say the science is now settled, and that without allowing any dissident voices, then I decline their judgement and form my own. Wilf, no science is ever settled. Only this week Einstein's Relativity has been shown to be rather shakey. None the less he was an excellent Jewish philosopher.

You say we all need to change. In part you're quite correct. Urban and suburban man needs to change. The demands of these dwellers on the planet are far in excess of sustainable. Yet they are the least likely to give up their demands in the planet's resources. People use electric cars signalling some virtue. What virtue - the power for their use is generated elsewhere so others suffer from their pollution. How do I know?

We have two nuclear stations within 30 miles of us, and a third in planning just to supply London. Coal, of which we have 400 years reserves inland as of 1967 consumption, is now a dirty fuel. Yet nuclear requires 200 years to dismantle. Which is less clean? Your call.

As for the mob, I doubt their sponsor is interested in climate change, no, his position is about destabilising GB! The mob is but one of a few spear heads he has bought and paid for.
Wilf
18th Oct 2019
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Lionel but you have to admit if the Carbon in the atmosphere has been proven to be a warming factor and there is now 25% more than 200 years ago then surely this must be a catalyst for climatic change? Coal vs nuclear...I would nowdays take nuclear BUT I fear one day we could have another catastrophe like Chernobyl and then heaven help us all! PS what part of Einsteins Relativity has been shown to be shaky?
Lionel
18th Oct 2019
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Wilf, if we don't have CO2 in the atmosphere in appropriate quantities we don't have plant life. Less CO2 means, quite literally, less plant life so therefore less food for humans. We re all dependent on CO2 in the atmosphere. I do not, as an ex farm worker, see what climate change people don't understand here. That begs the question, what do they understand which Is a truth?

CO2 as a warming factor ... Well, I doubt it. Water vapour Is certainly a warming factor - that can be adequately demonstrated from analysis of rock samples but CO2, I've got grave doubts. Please bear in mind I was at London University 50 years ago. I studied factors affecting climate in the geological record which is a pattern for the future, or today if you will.

As far as measuring anything from more than 100 years ago is concerned, any comparison is very questionable, chiefly since accurate measuring systems weren't available all those years ago. A good friend from some years ago, Bill Foggitt, we went to the same chapel, was the last in a line who had kept weather records around Thirsk - Herriot's town. Foggitt's records went back seven generations. If you Google Davekingweather you'll find someone, an ex- Met copper who follows Foggitt's family methods. He's seldom wrong.

Coal v nuclear? Just maybe there's no contest. If urban and suburban people drastically reduced their energy demands, say ended street lighting, culled a good few appliances from their homes and truly lived an Eco life style ... I'm sorry to say coal has he. Bad press, much of high is as questionable as climate change Cirencester but the likes of me will never be heard.

Returning to vegetation for a moment, NASA has a website of images. It shows much contradicting climate change theories. If you're interested I'll post the address.

I'll find the article in the press on Einstein's Relativity for you.
Wilf
19th Oct 2019
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Lionel-totally agree about CO2 and plant life we do need it but major studies and those commissioned by the UN have proved beyond doubt that CO2 is a warming gas in the atmosphere. Going back in time weather and CO2 can be measured by ice cores from Greenland and the Antarctic giving details of the gas in the atmosphere including CO2. Yes please do send me the NASA link and Einsteins article. Hope you have an enjoyable weekend!
hedgehog 4
17th Oct 2019
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If they are really concerned why always make people come to London by various means of transport increasing the ozone problem and causing chaos. Go to the other seats of government Edinburgh Cardiff Belfast. so reducing some of the carbon footprint. It appears to me its don't do as I do do as I say.!!!!!
KathleenC739
17th Oct 2019
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Alllinating the wrong people, making ordinary people anti the message! Target the makers of once use recycling plastic go to their factories and countries and protest there!
GabriellaG
17th Oct 2019
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Since when were we all held to account by a bunch of teenagers joined by masses of people with nothing to do? Sure they have a point but the UK is doing better than most. How much plastic do they have in their own homes and how do they all travel to cities to cause the havoc they do
Westerngirl1
17th Oct 2019
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They need to get better informed. The disruption on today’s trains for example, trains use electricity which is better for the environment. This country is doing its best to help future generations but it takes time. Preach to USA, China and Russia, big polluters of the world. Do not stop commuters going to their jobs, some don’t get paid if they don’t get to work.

It’s an important subject but don’t punish workers. Are any of the demonstrators working?
AnneS101
17th Oct 2019
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These are people who are just causing misery for people who work, and live in cities. If they want to do something constructive they should start in their own back yard. Amongst all of these people will be activists who are stirring them up and they should be targeted and dealt with appropriately by the police - courts etc.
Kes
17th Oct 2019
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There are legal ways for people to peacefully protest in our country. I suspect they are mostly anarchists who have latched on to a cause where they can do what they do best, which is cause as much misery and public disruption as they can, and break the law with impunity.
peterw25
17th Oct 2019
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I wonder how many of these people could do without the things we take for granted today ie electricity,Broadband,Mobile Phones or even Public Transport.Every thing we do leaves a Carbon footprint of some kind! and unless we regress to a totally Agrarian Society I cant see any real solutions.
Frenchy68
17th Oct 2019
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Why should these people cause so much disruption to honest working people!! All these super stars can afford to be off work but not us working peeps. Get a life and come down to earth.
JuneD
17th Oct 2019
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What is the point of these demonstrations to disrupt people's lives and all it does is makes us angry therefore they will not get the support they are looking for!
Mary Lincoln
17th Oct 2019
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These people do not care about climate change, all they care about is making a nuisance of them self's. Disrupting other peoples lives. Why are they not at work? If they are on benefits they are getting too much.
Yagala
17th Oct 2019
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The problem nowadays is that people do not want to listen to other people who have just causes to protest on what is going on in the world.
I do not know if anybody in Great Britain has watched the news from outside, if so then one should think about the farmers protest in Holland, where the farmers closed of whole cities without any protest from the community, only when they began to damage personal property did the police act.
That is the problem today, people do not want to listen to other people problems, only their own is the most important to them, no matter how much harm it causes to others.
We all have to talk (not shout and scream) to each other that is where reason starts to come out and vandalism disappears.
Billythequiche
17th Oct 2019
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Of course not, rent a mob are always more interested in self publicity. Are they demonstrating at the embassies of the mega polluters such as China, India, Russia or USA? NO. They are just just making life a misery for the majority of people trying to make a living. Most are hypocrites, diesel cars and generators in some tents. Their leadership should be liable in law for financial losses.
Freedom of speech is being subverted into a licence for any minority (or otherwise) view to disproportionately affect the lives of the majority.
We are already too constrained by political correctness, we cannot also lose the right to go about our daily lives free from interference.
AnneF72
17th Oct 2019
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These people do not have the right to close roads and disrupt life for everyone else. This country is aware of climate change and is making efforts to counteract it. Try living in India or China.
Cricketer
17th Oct 2019
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Why aren’t they going to protest in China? Are they scared that will get locked up?
In England, we are fully aware of climate change and are taking steps to decrease our carbon output. China is continuing to build coal powered power stations!!
ChrisH27
17th Oct 2019
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Actually they have installed % wise in the last 12 months more solar power than we have in 10 years
Wilf
17th Oct 2019
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Yes but India and China have far less carbon emissions per person that western Europe and especially the USA. I think that the USA has about 20 tons per person per year...India has about 2 tons per person per year!
JenniferT57
17th Oct 2019
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Celebrities who happily admit they are hypocrites; demonstrators who have been spotted on numerous occasions using single use coffee cups and takeaway food containers; hysterical screaming for the Government, or whoever, to DO something; demonstrating against organisations like the BBC, who have done so much to publicise green issues over the last couple of years... I believe they have now alienated many people, which will only harm their cause. As far as their right to demonstrate goes, they have exercised this ad nauseam recently. The law has to balance those rights with the rights of ordinary people to go about their lawful business and daily lives. They have had their fun. Move them on
ergu
17th Oct 2019
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Article 11 of the Human Rights Act gives the right to protest - peacefully. The protesters are achieving their goal of raising awareness. However, where protesters actions are obstructing public transport, such as climbing on top of trains and causing any danger, these actions may not be classed as peaceful and the police then have the right to step in? The ultimate extinction of the planet is surely important enough for drastic action and individuals as well as groups, including Government (whichever party is in power), need to work towards solutions - quickly.
BarryD96
17th Oct 2019
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I suspect everyone who voted 'No' is from the capital. We need people to stand up for the planet because our illustrious leaders are too busy looking out for themselves.
Raycar17
17th Oct 2019
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There should be an open space for protests,perhaps Victoria Park in East London.All other protests should be made illegal,and those involved should be arrested for causing an obstruction.
YvonneB8
17th Oct 2019
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Think it is a mistake to target people already struggling and who need to get to work. There must be other more appropriate targets to make a point. Appreciate if the planet goes it goes but people have to live in the meantime.
Sharon149
17th Oct 2019
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Of course the right to protest is an important part of any democracy. However disruptive and dangerous activity for days at a time is not your right.
This is now not about climate change but something else entirely. Time to stop it.
Wilf
18th Oct 2019
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I agree. We all know about it now we have the picture. ER can protest in Hyde Park etc but please do stop being silly and disrupting working peoples lives by lying on top of Tube trains in the rush hour!.
PamB74
17th Oct 2019
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I have always protested ban the bomb green ham comman green peace save the seas I try and do my bit but I don’t stop the general public going to work or stop people going about their business , also the litter that is being left and there are other was to get your point across ,it’s the government that needs attention not the public. We need all stand together by not using plastic or anything in plastic boycott the supermarkets who are still not listening als manufacturing that still produce throwaway items .
These protesters are not doing themselves any favours .
AnneC912
17th Oct 2019
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I don't think the issue of climate change is being reported in a balanced way. There are many factors to be taken into account many of which are being ignored and not fully represented. There are many people who are using this issue to gain attention and fuelling the emotional anxiety of others. Some of which feel in our present political climate of uncertainty totally disenfranchised and looking for something to give themselves a feeling of control and self worth. Whilst we need to act and continue to look at ways of reducing our negative impact on our environment in every way we can. We need to be much more aware of the real cost of changes in the long term. We also need to be more proactive in identifying ways to live with climate change as it is inevitable that the world will continue in its cycles regardless.
LanceFogg
17th Oct 2019
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On the question of Climate Change, there is a lot of rubbish talked about it. Some time ago I posted on Facebook some facts about pollution and greenhouse gases. Did you know it only takes one volcanic eruption to push the same amount of methane and carbon dioxide into the atmosphere that is produced by 80% of the world's dairy cattle? And did you know it only takes one journey by a container ship from Australia to UK to produce as much pollutant as the entire 38 million vehicles in the UK do in a year!!!
When there's a problem, as in this case too much greenhouse gas being produced wouldn't it be sensible to tackle the major generators first. OK you can't stop volcanic eruptions but the combustion of bunker oil by shipping has to be a priority for change.
Another point worth noting is that back in the 16th century, apparently the earth's climate was considerably warmer than it is today. Maybe the Seychelles didn't exist then as they were still under water but somehow mankind more than managed to live!! Climate change is not the end of the world.
Wilf
17th Oct 2019
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Sorry Lance but I totally disagree in many aspects. True there are climate fluxations-reoccurring ice ages every 40,000 years...true about volcanic activity but what is undeniable is that the amount of carbon in the atmosphere has risen from 300 parts per million 200 years ago to c425 now. This is causing the planet to heat up. Methane which is 100x more of a global warming element than carbon is starting to seep out of the tundra as the permafrost there melts. Billions of tons of methane. The deep oceans contain trillions of tons of methane. If all this leaks we have a serious problem and the wold warming then releases another issue such as the methane I have outlined. Unless we rapidly change our way of living we face a catastrophic future.
LanceFogg
17th Oct 2019
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The change in lifestyle required to offset natural phenomena which may, or may not, lead to the earth warming up to an intolerable level, would be unobtainable.
Even if the entirety of mankind were to achieve and adopt a "carbon neutral" lifestyle, it would still be insufficient to reverse the current trend.
Instead of running around like headless chickens bleating about taking action to reverse climate change we should be changing our lifestyles so that we can exist on a warmer earth. The future is not catastrophic but it may become a bit uncomfortable.
We need to devise carbon absorbing systems. This includes planting trees by the billions, cultivating the Sahara, replanting the tropical forests (the governments of Brazil and Indonesia should be charged with crimes against humanity for allowing the destruction of the Amazon and other tropical forests). In addition there a number of methods of undertaking carbon dioxide absorption utilising different chemicals but, as yet, these need further development.
I repeat, climate change is not the end of the world nor a catastrophic future. It is a challenge to mankind.
Wilf
17th Oct 2019
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I agree with most of your comments here Lance-I think one of the remedies should be carbon capture. The simplest method is planting trees so we should do this urgently globally now. We could make an example in the tiny UK. Other methods using machines should be rapidly explored and utilised. The problem is I do not think in the worse case scenarios its a question of living in a warmer world if that world is so warm crops cannot grow and vast tracts of the world become uninhabitable with say temperatures of 50-60 degrees C.
Seasidegran
17th Oct 2019
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This is just another excuse for the great unwashed to cause problems , if they had jobs they would have to be working and not trying to disrupt those who do work, there are many ways to try and help save the planet , causing traffic backlogs is creating more pollution and leaving the mountains of rubbish behind after these events is just unbelievable
GwynethC8
17th Oct 2019
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I do agree with the core of their protest but, unfortunately, and as usual, the 'headbangers/infiltrators' get involved and that is where the problems start.
We do, however, have to look beyond our generation and try and see what we are leaving behind for those yet to come.
ElisabethR
17th Oct 2019
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The whole issue has become lost in what they are doing. Disrupting life......enlarging the emissions used in London over this period. Being so very hypocritical.re plastics, using a diesel generator, etc etc wanting renewals for energy but against nuclear. Etc etc....and no windfarms will not supply enough power. Do all these people live without gas, tv's phones all things computer, use bicycles and not cars, ensure all things plastic? Just the use of plastics in their tents make me think NO . Be interested to learn how they got their 'stuff and themselves to London. Don't remember any reports of wagon trains on the roads.
A huge report given by environmental scientists published this week saying there is no emergency but agreeing we need to do what we are doing. He's share of the global emissions is less than 2%.....is anyone demonstrating in China, India etc?
We will continue to make changes in GB .
Today they disrupt the tube. People are getting fed up and angry now....sadly that is the result these demos will leave.
Sorry...have ranted on a bit.
caroleannetroops
17th Oct 2019
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Many of them cause more pollution than the average man in the street, few of them practice what they preach.
LanceFogg
17th Oct 2019
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I think it's all been said. The current programme of protest has just given a load of loonies an excuse to wreak mayhem. Their actions have been irresponsible to the nth degree and many deserve to be locked up.
Why don't they go and protest in China which is the largest polluter in the world? Reason - their feet wouldn't touch the ground as the authorities banged them into jail. Here they can play on a "soft" system which tolerates such behaviour.
ChrisH27
17th Oct 2019
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Looks like this age group having contributed the most to global warming, don't think enough of their children or grandchildren to do anything,
Marley444
17th Oct 2019
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Our generation had glass milk bottles that were recycled, paper bags, and terry nappies that were washed and our cars were fuelled with petrol. We had no mobile phones, computers or multiple pairs of trainers and we still make and mend our clothes. This has become a blame game which it should't be. The world has evolved and grown and technology has advanced and we have become over populated. We all need to make changes and there is no point in blaming any generation.
SusanneJ5
17th Oct 2019
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Most of us realise the situation with climate change. What I don't get is that none of the protestors come up with a solution to change what is happening, it is much easier just to blame previous generations and the Government. Making a nuisance of themselves does not bring the public on their side. I bet the majority of protestors won't stop using planes for their holidays, or stop using their appliances or energy guzzling cars.
ChrisH27
17th Oct 2019
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They actually have come up with solutions, the right wing media won't publicise, view the green psrty's policies
Carol6
17th Oct 2019
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Thedy could cause instances where people are seriously affected by their actions. Could be potentially life threatening to some. There are other ways of getting the point accross. They will end up alienating any possible support they could of had.
Macmay
17th Oct 2019
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I understand why it’s needed, however, when children are at risk of going hungry when parents get their pay docked due to arriving late or not being able to get to work due to these demonstrations is not right. When an ambulance with a seriously ill patient having to take a longer route to get to hospital, isn’t right. By all means demonstrate and bring it to the forefront but don’t disrupt where others suffer. We are trying to drop our foot print, however, we are a small country, how about going to other counties who’s foot print is ginormous and are not doing anything to reduce it. They are the ones to be disrupted.
No1Admiral
17th Oct 2019
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Whilst I agree with the idea, the actions taken are illegal and unjustified!
Marley444
17th Oct 2019
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Whilst I think they have highlighted this extremely important issue and got in the headlines, I think their tactics are now out of hand. Yes we all need to act now to try and save our planet I am fed up with all the blaming tactics being used. There are so many mixed messages and only this week I heard that going vegan for a year has the same reduction in carbon foot print as taking one less flight a year. It is bigger than the individual - it is governments that need to take urgent action globally. Donald Trump doesn't help. He thinks climate change doesn't exit! And what about China?? their carbon foot print must be the biggest cause of the change in our climate.
Gardenmad
17th Oct 2019
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Extinction Rebellion need to carry public opinion with them. How they think they are doing that by stopping people going about their daily lives is beyond me. Their proposals for stopping global warming seem to be going vegan and having a 'people's committee' to decide the future. Really?
Bald123
17th Oct 2019
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Yes I do for one simple reason-we have got to get a grip on our way of life or with climate change we are facing a catastrophe which is going to affect our kids and grandkids and their kids. The evidence for the changing climate is there from thousands of scientists and makes sense. If we ourselves have a disease and the doctor says treat it we treat it. It is the same here we simply must act now and I think the Extinction Rebellion mob are getting all our attention. There may be disruption but unless we get the human carbon footprint down we and our fellow animals could be facing extinction. These protests are a small price to pay to at least start changing all our way of life and reducing our carbon footprint-QUICKLY!
Wilf
17th Oct 2019
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I totally agree with you we do need to get a grip right now and so do other countries like China, India and the USA. Trump is a disgrace ignoring this issue but then it is "America First". Problem is there will not be an America unless we sort this out.

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