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Should smacking children be banned across the UK?

A smacking ban in Scotland is likely to be ruled today at Holyrood.

Scotland is to become the first country in the UK to make it a criminal offence for parents to smack their children.

Parents and carers are currently allowed to use “reasonable” physical force to discipline children.

But the Scottish government has backed moves to give children the same protection from assault as adults.

Plans to make smacking a child illegal were backed by five of the seven MSPs on the Equalities and Human Rights Committee at its first stage towards becoming law.

The Bill would remove the defence of justifiable assault in Scots law, which allows parents to use physical punishment on children.

It would be “a watershed moment in Scots law and in changing Scotland’s culture”, according to Committee Convener Ruth Maguire.

She said: “It’s over three decades since all physical punishment was ended in classrooms, and it’s now time to end it at home as well. This law will ensure our children are legally protected from assault in the same way as adults.”

Britain is one of only four countries in Europe where smacking remains a legal way of disciplining children and 57 countries already prohibit the physical punishment of children including France, Sweden, and Ireland.

What are your views? How did you discipline your children? Do you think parents who smack their children should face prosecution? Or do you think it should be up to the discretion of a parent as to how they punish their child? Would you ever intervene if you saw someone smacking their child?

Should smacking children be banned across the UK?

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Munsterlander
8 hours ago
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Yes smacking kids is wrong. A good stern word often sorts out the problem.
Onecott
16 hours ago
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Sometimes a short sharp smack , focuses the mind.
Children can be a danger to themselves if they are pushing boundaries.
Waasifah64
4 days ago
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OMG, have you seen the arrogance and violence of the kids on the streets?They aren't afraid of anyone. They need discipline in the home. I got a clack or two and a good shouting at and I never turned into how these lot are today. My grandson is three and he rules the roost now!!! Takes the piss out of my daughter and thumps her. What the hell has gone on over the years? Is it these goody bloody two shoes that you hear about? No smacking, no this, no that. It makes me sick that there is no respect and it's been like this for years now. Fucking sort it.
Richard McMillan
13th Oct 2019
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Children when they are young do not understand adult conversations or remarks when a tap on ther leg works wonders with communication.
sparrer
11th Oct 2019
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Heartily tired of being told by 'experts', scientific studies' PC brigade etc., how to bring up children. I wonder how many actually have them?
My oldest was sent to her room which she loved, she'd do her painting, practice her flute and so on so that was a waste of time. Being warned twice previously that she'd get a smack on the back of the hand when she wouldn't leave the cooker knobs alone ensured she never touched them again.
At the age of 7 my son told me I couldn't smack him as it was assault. After a day of him being particularly obnoxious, and sending him to a naughty step (what a farce that is!) I eventually resorted to a smack on the backside over his shorts. He dialled 999! Oh, my humiliation and embarrassment when two police officers arrived at my door. They interviewed my son, then me, and asked my permission to take him to the police station with me following. I was able to listen to his 'interview' which was kind but firm, he came out of that room very subdued and apologetic. Strangely enough he never misbehaved that badly again. He's 37 now and a police officer.
I do not condone hitting a child or any other person. The do-gooders can't or don't want to get it into their heads that there is a massive difference.
biker babe
11th Oct 2019
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Common sense isn't so common!
Alicia
11th Oct 2019
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Yes, explain what the child did wrong and tell them not to do it again.
MoiraC8
10th Oct 2019
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I am certainly in favour of any legislation that protects children against physical abuse and assault. I do wonder how this ban is going to be enforced though and by whom given that Police and Social Work in Scotland are already under-resourced. I can't remember the last time I saw a child being smacked in a public place so how is anyone to know if a child is being smacked at home?
Richard McMillan
13th Oct 2019
1
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A speed dial number will be provided for the children's mobiles with a built in tracker.
DipsyDitsy
8th Oct 2019
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Whilst discussing the issue of a particular child having been smacked by a parent, a police colleague questioned whether it had been 'justifiable parental chastisement'?
AlisonP24
7th Oct 2019
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I can only comment from experience. I had the odd smack when I was naughty and grew up absolutely fine. My son was given the occasional smack and he is absolutely fine. My grandchildren who are not smacked are noisy and not so well mannered. Who is right, Who knows! A smack won't hurt, hitting a child is different.
djl277
5th Oct 2019
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Great to know that this community has so many experts in psychology, aggressive and anti-social behaviour. However, after a simple Internet search I find that numerous studies and research by eminent bodies across the world are at odds with many of the views expressed here.

I for one am delighted that I live in an enlightened, caring, forward looking and progressive country and proud that Scottish MSPs have passed the "Children (Equal Protection from Assault) Bill", joining the other 57 countries across the world who heed international evidence showing that smacking can have serious impacts on children, and that it is not effective. MSPs passed the bill by a margin of 84 to 29 with only the Tories opposing (now there's a surprise).

Perhaps those who believe that children are now more badly behaved than ever should consider this:

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households." - Socrates (469–399 B.C.). BTW - I disagree with children being "servants" of anyone or anything.

For those interested - here's a summary of evidence submitted to MSPs at Holyrood.

https://www.parliament.scot/S5_Equal_Opps/equal%20protection/CEPFA_Summary_of_Evidence_.pdf
Billythequiche
5th Oct 2019
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Would they be the same experts who told us vaping was safe and now don't; that dairy was bad for you and now not; that diesel was better for the environment and now isn't?
We all know what experts are: X is an unknown and spurt is a drip under pressure.
With the greatest respect of course.
djl277
5th Oct 2019
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Experts from eminent universities and bodies across the world who have carried out extensive research and studies. Try an internet search.

And what are your qualifications in this sphere?
Ian123
5th Oct 2019
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All consuming text.
Not all children are monsters.
Bfmeoneandonly
5th Oct 2019
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Children must be taught that life is not a free ride and contributions need to be made, just as respect and manners are requirements.
djl277
5th Oct 2019
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Of course, but research evidence shows that smacking will not achieve this.
Bfmeoneandonly
5th Oct 2019
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It did with the majority untill the pc brigade arrived.
djl277
5th Oct 2019
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No - it didn't. But of course you are entitled to your opinion irrespective of it being wrong.

I realise from your in-depth and reasoned reply that there is little point in showing you the research. You will continue to to make glib, sloppy replies referring to the "pc brigade".

Out of interest - what are your qualifications in this area?
Bfmeoneandonly
5th Oct 2019
3
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My opinion is not wrong, it is my opinion based on my life and experience which also taught me not to be rude and have respect for others. I have worked with and around children both at home and from abroad as well as being a Father, Grandfather and Greatgrandfather and I found that to quote you "glib, sloppy replies referring to the pc brigade" are the most polite way one can discuss them and the damage they have imposed on our society.
djl277
5th Oct 2019
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But it is wrong - the evidence is there if you could be bothered to read it. Have you followed the link in my OP and looked at the Summary of Evidence given to MSPs?

So, no qualification then. In that case, I'll listen to the experts if you don't mind.

"Political Correctness" is a derogatory, pejorative term to denounce any type of progress made in an attempt at advancing society. Values change. What was tolerated 100, 50, 10 years ago isn't tolerated any more. This is the way things are.

If the "PC Brigade" brigade were listened to we'd still be sending children up chimneys to clean them from the inside and locking up single mothers in the Magdalene Laundries.
Billythequiche
6th Oct 2019
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I do not PRETEND to have any qualifications in this area. My experiences were formed by starting life in the tenements of industrial Scotland; a strict but loving upbringing in a typical post-war family; raising 3 children and 5 grandchildren who visit us several times a week here in Yorkshire.
I have also, no qualifications in divining real motives and agenda. So you will forgive me, if to my untutored mind, apart from virtue signalling, I suspect political posturing from those who would tear the Union apart.
djl277
6th Oct 2019
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As I have said - thankfully, values change.

Governments cannot form or legislate policy based on experiences or anecdotes.

It is great that you had a positive upbringing and admirable that you continue this with your extended family, however, there are thousands and thousands who haven't. One of the main priorities of any Government is to protect its citizen - all of them - irrespective of their age, ethnicity, wealth, education, or any other measure you care to take.

This legislation gives children the same protection from assault as adults - and no matter how you try to play it down - in the eyes of the law, smacking is an assault. Do you think it wrong that a Government passes legislation that cares for and protects some of its most vulnerable citizens?

You can suspect that it is political posturing all you like. The truth of the matter is that was voted for and passed by all MSPs from all parties, except (no surprise) the Tories. It was proposed by Green MSP John Finnie.
Bfmeoneandonly
6th Oct 2019
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You have demonstrated your opinions and interpretations and the fact that everbody elses is flawed, therefore there is not any point in continuing.
djl277
6th Oct 2019
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Not my interpretations, I've just read the reports and findings from the experts that the Scottish Government used to come to a decision.
Billythequiche
7th Oct 2019
2
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Oh dear. I thought I could have a civilised dialogue with someone with differing views. Your rude and disrespectful replies to "Yes2" show the arrogant and narrow views that we are plagued with of late. The fact that a lot of MSP is irrelevant to the rest of the UK and the fact that it was proposed by a green is no recommendation, quite the opposite in fact.
I will no longer bother you again with my opinion, I cannot be bothered to batter against your ego and the space in your intellect where the possibility of other views should reside. It must be very lonely being the only person who is right.
djl277
7th Oct 2019
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Sorry you feel like that. Just robust replies to much of the nonsense spouted here from people with far narrower views than you think I have.

I rail against lazy thoughtless comments like "PC Brigade" "Nanny State" and "Virtue Signalling" which are bandied about with such ease and abdicates those who use them from real discussion.

Interesting that you accuse me of being rude and arrogant yet you are just that about a politician from a particular party. I have not made assumptions or passed comments on anyone's character yet you are arrogant enough to make them about me.
jeanmark
8th Oct 2019
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Oh dear djl277, you appear to make an assumption that everyone who has a different opinion to yours must be narrow minded, and unable to understand the discussion because they have not read the research used to influence the decision in Scotland. Everyone on this site has been a child, many are parents, grand parents and great grandparents and therefore they also recognise the need to use their knowledge and experience of life to help form their opinions and not only rely on research findings.

Most comments on here have expressed the feeling that they haven't come to harm, either physically of psychologically, from receiving a reasonable degree of chastisement and the research can not alter what they have learnt from life.
biker babe
11th Oct 2019
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Had enough already!
Richard McMillan
13th Oct 2019
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Why are they Experts?
I have met experts and read articles and theses by these experts
when I was studying for in Business Management.
I checked what their experience was in various subjects and most of the results were very limited and contained a lot of plagiarism.
Too many people have given up bringing up their children to respect people and property.
Waasifah64
4 days ago
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With respect, Socrates isn't living today. I believe children need discipline from an early age and to respect their elder's. My family was treated like this and we have grown up well-behaved and respectful. Getting me behind a wheel and somebody annoys me, however and I can go berserk.
Munsterlander
8 hours ago
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I agree with you that smacking should be banned. Violence leads to more of it in future generations.
Retiredyorkie
4th Oct 2019
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Oh please just stop this do not smack your child - there is a complete difference between a smack and physical abuse.

Do parent now have to say to a child who has put a finger in a electrical socket - darling you should not have done that whilst they are organising a funeral - or would it not be better before the finger got there a small smack on the hand. To me let parents you their common sense.

I was smacked as a child (not physically abused) and so was mine and I think we were a family that considered each other and the rest of the world.

I am fed up with hearing screaming children and children have tantrums because they cannot have want they want immediately. - come on let common sense rule again and let parents decide if their child needs a small tap as a reminder what us right or wrong.
Tr1sh
4th Oct 2019
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If you have time to smack a child, then you have time to remove them from danger. Alternatively, for less than £3 you could buy a set of childproof socket covers.

Personally, I am not talking about a small tap and while you and your children suffered no harm, many children do,

There are many positive ways to teach children manners and good behaviour but, of course, they take a little more time and effort than smacking.
Tr1sh
3rd Oct 2019
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The concept that smacking your child is the the action of a reasonable parent and not smacking your child is a failure to teach your child right from wrong doesn't really make sense to me.

We probably all grew up during a time when parents smacked, schools caned and screaming children in shops were slapped because their parent had lost patience. If parenting has moved on so that children are taught rather than punished, then I think that is something to be celebrated.

I believe it is the lack of love, care and guidance that leads to a troubled child rather than the lack of a slap.
Bfmeoneandonly
5th Oct 2019
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See the parent walking around more interested in the electronics in their hand than the child or even driving in this manner.
Margaret Hart
3rd Oct 2019
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While all the do gooders keep on shouting for more restraints on parents rights thee massive problems in this country will continue to get worse. No decent parent does any more than lightly tap or smack a child on the leg, hand or bottom in thee process of teaching them right from wrong. I am 72 years old and I never received anything more than a cautionary smack and I brought my son up in exactly the same way and he in turn is now a wonderful new father. If this law had called for no beating or thrashing children. T would have made sense as none of us want that but that will continue behind closed doors and children will go on being too frightened to report it.
How about saying no bad language should be used to children as it is teaching them how not to behave. This country is dealing with never ending stabbings and terrible behaviour from those who have not been taught right from wrong and respect. I really wish people would look at what is wrong and work out what has caused the problems. No respect for others and for oneself - respect is earned not a right.. bring back better standards of. Behaviour wwe. Can be proud of.
djl277
5th Oct 2019
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You think it a parent's "right" to assault a child? Really?

If I were to slap or hit another adult, no matter how lightly, it would be assault in the eyes of the law.

Prior to this legislation being passed, children were the only category of persons in Scotland against whom violence was explicitly permitted.

Evidence confirms that physical punishment does not work as a
disciplinary tool to address children’s difficult behaviour. Rather, it has been shown to worsen bad behaviour, International studies overwhelmingly find that smacking risks short and long-term damage to children and has strong associations with violence in later life. The very violence and behaviour you rightly express concern over..
Margaret Hart
5th Oct 2019
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As far as I am concerned there is no comparison between smacking and. Physical punishment — the latter is abuse not love. When my son was very little he was attracted to fire so when he went to touch a coal effect fire a light tap on his had + the word naughty stopped him later touching a real fire and being seriously injured in doing so. I was a child from the times when children were caned at school and some literally belted on bare flesh by fathers but that never happened to me or my friends although there was one teacher who used to throw the blackboard rubber so hard that had it hit anyone it could have killed them and there were many complaints about that but she kept her job - I went to an all girls school and this should not have happened. I would hate to be a teacher nowadays when children really believe they can do and say anything to anybody as they are never taught respect or self control. I have read all of your comments and you seem to contradict yourself.
djl277
5th Oct 2019
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Physical violence of any description is wrong.

In what way do I contradict myself?
Bfmeoneandonly
5th Oct 2019
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Now explain that to a child that is protected and immuned from consequences.
djl277
5th Oct 2019
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Sorry, explain what?
Lionel
3rd Oct 2019
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As has been said below by several good folk there is a great difference between a smack and child physical abuse. A progression of changes enforced by too liberal thinkers is, in my opinion, a greater abuse of children than the traditional smack. They now have little grasp on the fact of life there is a right way to conduct oneself and a now much more common wrong way.

There always has been and always will be heavy handed parenting. I grew up under it. That doesn't mean to say we should condone it, no .But to enact blanket legislation to ban all reasonable physical chastisement is utterly stupid. Those who are child abusing heavy handers won't obey any law and those who are not will be heavily penalised and perhaps vilified for being reasonable parents.

But, then again, what isn't turned upside down these days by experts?
djl277
5th Oct 2019
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A "smack" is a physical assault. As I have said elsewhere, if I were to "smack" another adult it would be assault.

Children deserve the same level of protection as adults, if not more, and this legislation addresses the absurd situation in Scotland where violence against a child was permitted in the eyes of the law, but rightly punished if it were violence against an adult.

That you believe youngsters "now have little grasp on the fact of life there is a right way to conduct oneself and a now much more common wrong way." is down to many factors but will most certainly not be solved by smacking.
JacquelineT5
3rd Oct 2019
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A sharp slap on the legs when a small person misbehave badly will do no harm. Physical abuse is a totally different ball game, we need to distinguish between slapping with intent to main and a swift slap on the legs or hand to remonstrate.
Society today is to quick to throw up their hands in horror if a child is told off.
Let children be children, grow up slowly, they don't need to be adults at 8years old or younger.
Ian123
3rd Oct 2019
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A sharp slap on the child’s legs may seem insignificant to the adult, how are you able to access the emotional fear and physical pain the child suffers at that immediate time.
Bullying and abuse in my opinion.
djl277
5th Oct 2019
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I agree Ian and not just the immediate fear and pain.
Margaret Hart
5th Oct 2019
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A sweet or biscuit would heal a slap on the leg but it would not heal the sores or mental anguish of a belting!
Billythequiche
3rd Oct 2019
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No, no, no. As the options for sanctions has reduced over the years, the chidrens behaviour has deteriorated. There is a massive difference between chastisement and abuse though and people should be vigilant.
It worries me that some people throw up their hands in horror about smacking and yet contemplate medical interference with puberty and gender preferences.
Lionel
3rd Oct 2019
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An excellent post Billy. Thank you.

May I just add ... not only are some parents compliant in early gender reassignment but also the use of drugs such as Ritilin (marketed over here under other names I believe) to control the wayward behaviour of their progeny.

How many kids with ADHD, autism etc., did you know as a kid? I don't recall any which leaves me thinking it's got more to do with the child's lack of self discipline than more serious and so ill-defined head problems. That was certainly the case with our postman, a friend for fifteen years. When he took over his daughters discipline from a rather soft and PC mother, delivering the occasional smack, matters improved very quickly.

My father was an ex-merchant navy ships master during the War continuing through to '58. You didn't mess with him. Oh no!
JacquelineT5
4th Oct 2019
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So right. Surely medical interference and gender realining should be considered abuse more so than chastising for bad behaviour.
JacquelineT5
4th Oct 2019
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Modern ailments to condone bad behaviour and the excuse that many adults use.
Respect for our elders, slap on the back of our legs and being expected to do chores for the few pennies called pocket money never did us any harm.
I despair for this country if one day the youths I hear and see in our high street from my flat window every night are in charge, I've learnt so many new and interesting words since I've lived here and none are suitable fo r repeating.
Billythequiche
4th Oct 2019
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Mine was in the Cameron Highlanders. He was more heavy handed than I would agree with but you have to take into account what they had to endure in the 40's. He wasn't my best friend but I respected him rather than feared him.
Lionel
4th Oct 2019
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Yes Billy, I know what you mean. Tough old boots, weren't they. But it must be said the jackboot would have trodden British soil before 1945 if it hadn't been for them.

I look at my step grand children and wonder ... what goes around comes around - how are they going to fare next time, because there will be a next time and it's now well overdue.
djl277
5th Oct 2019
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I may be wrong, but it would seem to me that you are suggesting "ill-defined head problems" such as ADHD can be solved by instilling more "self-discipline" in a child diagnosed as being autistic? How would you go about that?

The reason why you didn't know any "kids" with ADHD or autism when you were young is because the Autistic Spectrum has only been used from 1987, prior to that "autism" was used to describe a form of childhood schizophrenia. There were certainly children who would be diagnosed as on the Autistic Spectrum but probably just labelled as "bad" or "wayward".

My father too was ex-merchant navy and crewed Landing Craft as RN during the assault of Omaha Beach. He never raised his hands to me or my sisters, I would never "mess" with him, loved him dearly and totally respected him. But I'm not sure what this or your reminiscing has to do with the current discussion.
Margaret Hart
5th Oct 2019
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Good comment I agree completely!
Ian123
5th Oct 2019
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Children’s behaviour may well be deteriorating, but is not also the same in the case of adults?
From whom the children learn their behaviours.
As for smacking, I would have no regret in smacking a smacker, and that comes from someone who was liberally smacked.
johnboy68
3rd Oct 2019
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a tap does not hurt any child a beating does there is no need for abuse but a light smack not hard helps the child to understand no one has to harm anyone but children have to learn the rights and wrongs like respect these days no one respects any more I was brought up in the late 40s and 50s I knew what a belt does no child deserves that not once have I smacked my granddaughters and never will but when we have them they use please /thankyou ask not want yes you don't have to harm as children bring so much love but yes I would defend my granddaughters from anyone even there mum and dad never have smacked them all you need is to teach children right from wrong and love and care
Ian123
3rd Oct 2019
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Speaking as someone who was brutalised by this practice in the 1950’.s, I find the thought of this practice absolutely abhorrent.
Using violence of any sort against a child makes me question the skills of the inept cowardly perpetrator of this practice.
They should try to relive their own emotional fears when they were subjected to such practices when they were children.
Smacking a child is nothing more than an adult trying to expunge their frustrations.
Shameful.
SueC62
3rd Oct 2019
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By chance my (48 year old) son and I were discussing smacking, the cane, slipper etc last week. The problem with implementing a ban is that parents who issue a smack calmly and as a last resort will obey the law. Those who hit and beat their children in temper are unlikely to pay any attention to the law.
carolp1974
3rd Oct 2019
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how are you ging to chastise children if you dont give them a smack,sorry this society is getting too soft.dont have to give them a belting,but a slap never hurt me.no means no,but children dont understand.
Incredible Kath
3rd Oct 2019
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Smacking children is a form of abuse and should not be allowed! It's using fear to control children, taking away their self confidence and teaching them to be aggressive! You wouldn't smack an adult if it disagreed with you and didn't obey you!
Parenting skills ought to be taught to parents before a baby is even born! Because it work for my generation doesn't make it right! I as a child, grew up in fear!
Ian123
3rd Oct 2019
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Incredible Kath
3rd Oct 2019
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I can't understand why people think it's right to abuse children, it's an archaic way to behave! We're supposed to be civilised!
Wipeout
3rd Oct 2019
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Yes most definitely. I have three children that have grown to be well adjusted, responsible adults and have 6 children between them and I can say none of them have been smacked.

One of my daughters is a child care worker.

Where as I on the other hand being brought up 60 years ago by a devout Catholic father was beaten regularly for breathing...(apparently to purge me of my sins). I had no idea what I had done wrong 99% of the time. (I'm over it).

I honestly believe that if little people are talked to and listened to and I will add, fed healthy home cooked food instead of junk they will be good little people.
JacquelineT5
3rd Oct 2019
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Your last paragraph speaks volumes to me but talking to anyone these days seems to be very outmoded, and please don't get me started on home cooked food and family meal times, no-one seems able to produce food that doesn't have microwave instructions on it, we always say at the table as a family and eat together and still do
ecarg
3rd Oct 2019
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How is this going to be policed ? What goes on behind closed doors will continue but hopefully it will maybe make parents and other adults think twice before resorting to smacking..
JillianF
3rd Oct 2019
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I have a grandchild that is disobedient, obstinate, noisy, stretches the rules with everything to the limit and over, it doesn't matter what you ask, tell, or say, she will not listen till she gets a gentle smack on the leg. suddenly changes to being good.
Ian123
3rd Oct 2019
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If that is the case I would be looking at the parenting skills.
ElisabethR
4th Oct 2019
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My son was like this.....you could talk to him until you were blue in the face. I remember vividly 2 occassions when I gave him a smacked had. 1 after stopping him from poking things into electric sockets (No socket covers then) several times and explaining why, he was around 3, I saw he had found a screwdriver and was about to ram it in to the socket under his bed.....I hauled him out took the screwdriver .....goodness knows where he found it we were careful, slapped the back of his had and said no. I had done it out of fear! 2 was when we had a puppy and he delighted in trapping her in a corner and poking her with whatever he could find 'to make her squeal once again many times explained why it was not kind etc . Once again after hearing the puppy scream (I was in the bathroom) I slapped his hand with a firm no and it didn't happen again.
Bald123
3rd Oct 2019
5
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Yes because some people use it far too much. In my day-the 1960's-we were smacked a lot by parents, teachers, policemen which did install discipline but I know some parents carried it too far.

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contain any material which is defamatory of any person; or contain any material which is obscene, offensive, hateful or inflammatory; or promote sexually explicit material; or promote violence; promote discrimination based on race, sex, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation or age; or infringe any copyright, database right or trade mark of any other person; or be likely to deceive any person; or be made in breach of any legal duty owed to a third party, such as a contractual duty or a duty of confidence; or promote any illegal activity; or be threatening, abuse or invade another’s privacy, or cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety; or be likely to harass, upset, embarrass, alarm or annoy any other person; or be used to impersonate any person, or to misrepresent your identity or affiliation with any person; or give the impression that they emanate from us, if this is not the case; or advocate, promote or assist any unlawful act such as (by way of example only) copyright infringement or computer misuse.

Nurturing a safe environment

Our Silversurfers community is designed to foster friendships, based on trust, honesty, integrity and loyalty and is underpinned by these values.

We don't tolerate swearing, and reserve the right to remove any posts which we feel may offend others... let's keep it friendly!