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Do you have confidence in the test, track and trace strategy?

7 months later into the Covid-19 pandemic in the UK and after a decline of the R rate during the summer, it is on the rise again.

We were being enticed to ‘eat out to help out’ during August, now schools are back and workers are being encouraged back to the office.

Just when we were moving forward with ‘baby steps’ we now have to retrace our steps. Currently, the lawful limit on gatherings in England is 30 people. The number of people that can attend social gatherings will be slashed to six in England from Monday following a rise in coronavirus cases across the UK.

Vaccine trials are underway and test, track and trace was designed to keep on top of the virus in the meantime – but is it actually effective?

Matt Hancock said there had been an increase in people seeking tests when they have not got symptoms of Covid-19.

One school sent a whole year group for tests, which is “not appropriate”, he added.

Mr Hancock also described how some people who were going on holiday had sought to get tests, which is “not what the testing system is here for”.

People seeking unnecessary tests meant that it was harder for those who needed them to be tested, he added.

Many people who tried to access a test on Wednesday morning were met with the error message: “This service is currently very busy. More tests should be available later. If you cannot book a test now, or the location or time are not convenient, try again in a few hours. Warning: Do not call the helplines – you will not be able to get a test this way.”

The free tests are available to people with symptoms of coronavirus – a fever, new and continuous cough or a loss or change in sense of taste or smell – and for some others such as those who have been instructed to do so by a doctor or local council and some essential workers.

When asked whether the test system is failing, Mr Hancock told Sky News: “I completely reject that accusation. In fact, quite the contrary. Firstly, we have the biggest testing system per head of population of all the major countries in Europe and we built it essentially from scratch.

“Right now, we have the highest capacity for testing that we’ve ever had – increased compared to last week.”

“And that testing means that we can find these cases, and therefore help keep the virus under control with the contact tracing system as well.”

“However, in the last couple of weeks we have seen an increase in demand, including an increase in demand for people who are not eligible for tests, and people who don’t have symptoms.”

What are your views?  Have you had experience with the testing system? Do you have confidence in the test, track and trace strategy? Are you aware of people not following the guidelines and getting unnecessary tests? Is the system at fault or the people accessing it?

 

Do you have confidence in the test, track and trace strategy?

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viking
5 hours ago
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So who actually awarded the lab testing contract ??
Was it Bo Jo or Matt Hancock or Laura Kuenssberg probably not, but rather someone in the NHS procurement department [very large ].
No one will be sacked for gross incompetence, but rather, ranks will close up, and Whitehall mandarins will adjust their stab proof vests to their back's, and life will go on, and the matter will be swept under the carpet, as usual.
viking
5 days ago
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The tracing part of this question should really be passed back to the Chinese. but we will not get a straight answer ever from them.It is becoming rather obvious to observers that the nearness of the top secret military installation at Huahan is a coincidence, and to throw everyone off the scent, it was made to seem as if the virus started in the meat market there, which has subsequently been proved to have been a smoke screen, The way this virus is performing and re performing might suggest to some observers to be an off shoot of meddling for military purposes which got out of hand and crept out the door from a military laboratory.
viking
24th Sep 2020
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When the government first awarded the contract for the testing facilities, did they really check to see what sort of capacity these firms were capable of ?? Think not , I hate to say this but was it all awarded on a nod and a wink basis, or because it was the cheapest option ?? Cheapest is not always the best option.
jeanmark
4 days ago
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A nod and a wink via the 'old boy' network Viking, it was all private companies and definitely not cheap. It did not even go out to tender!
Barbiegran
23rd Sep 2020
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It is not run by the NHS but by a private company who cannot manage anything and most certainly not such an important thing as this.
swaneldo
21st Sep 2020
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You could have a test on one day when you have no virus; contract the virus the next day, but the test result will come back negative. The system is extremely shambolic and some have had tests when they have no symptoms, but just thought they'd have a test. This has denied those who really need to know the chance to get back to school / work / sanity!

Until they can establish if you've already had it (quite likely for a lot of people I would think) and that you have developed an immunity to it, it all seems very pointless.

I will continue to use my own common sense and keep well away from others and not venture into crowded, enclosed spaces.
jeanmark
21st Sep 2020
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The problem is swaneldo, there are a number of people who may know they have been in contact with a positive person, they could be asymptomatic but remain infectious. I appreciate there are the "worried well" who will want to be tested even when they haven't knowingly been in contact with anyone infected. It is the system that is at fault. Maybe they shouldn't have paid millions to private companies to deliver a service they had no experience of!

By the way, at the moment there is no evidence to suggest you become immune to the virus, that was confirmed today by Professor Witty during his Covid-19 update.

I'm like you, I will use my common sense and keep away from as many people as possible.
Yodama
21st Sep 2020
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There are too many anomalies regarding covid and covid rules,(162 new rules,) to rely on an untried and untested faddish idea.
Exaggerated statistics and false positive, have sent people into a tailspin of fear.
It is a 'flu virus, be cautious as you would normally.

Latest alarmist "statistics" 4,000+ new cases with 27 deaths.
Where on earth are they getting these figures from in such a short space of time?
jeanmark
21st Sep 2020
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Sorry Yodama, it is not the flu virus, both are contagious respiratory illnesses, but they are caused by different viruses. COVID-19 is caused by infection with a new coronavirus (called SARS-CoV-2) and flu is caused by infection with influenza viruses. On average 7,000 people die from flu each year, to date there have been over 41,000 from Covid this year.

Far from being alarmist, the statistics are as accurate as they can as they are reported daily to a central database. Only time will tell the actual toll from the disease.
Yodama
22nd Sep 2020
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As usual you are correct Jean, it is not the ‘flu virus. I should have said ‘flu-like. There are no arguments on the virulence of this virus.

I do however stand by my statement regarding the accuracy of the statistics we are being given.
Recently the government has adjusted its statistics regarding the reporting of deaths through Covid and reducing it by over 5.300.
It was found that people who had tested positive for covid earlier, and who then months later were killed in a car crash, or any other cause, were reported as having died from covid.

Prof John Newton, director of health improvement at Public Health England (PHE), said: "The way we count deaths in people with Covid-19 in England was originally chosen to avoid underestimating deaths caused by the virus in the early stages of the pandemic."
Calculating the total number of deaths linked to coronavirus is far from straightforward. (NHS)

Hancock calls for urgent review on Covid death data
It followed concerns raised by Oxford scientists that this was being carried out differently across the four nations of the UK.

My original answer to the question, do we trust track and trace? Was no.
In all areas of this pandemic and the ideas that we can actually pinpoint and trace it, has too many anomalies to be successful.
Stay safe Jean.
jeanmark
22nd Sep 2020
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Well Yodama, I do agree with the rest of your comment as it is unclear what system they are using. As to test and trace, whilst they insist on paying millions to private companies that have no experience of such an area, we will not have an efficient system in place.

Keep safe Yodama.
Retiredyorkie
20th Sep 2020
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Beginning to think a class of four year olds could run the country better.
viking
21st Sep 2020
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Yes it is definately the fault of Boris Johnson. He did not go in for his medical qualifications so he is as ignorant as you and I are about the Covid. If you are dependent on the advice from the experts which differs from each expert to the next expert , how on earth can Boris be able to keep up with these so called " experts ".

Just watch the TV and just listen to all of the words being uttered by these people and just try to compose their views into something resembling a straight forward answer to the problem. ....... Answer they just do not know but will pontificate on the subject until their time is up for the interview. How can Boris lay down a straight forward path with all this confusion.
Catton
19th Sep 2020
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I have no faith in B.Johnson . We have been behind from the very start and always playing catch up.
In April/May he had daily reports on the number of deaths. Hardly talked about now. Then we had to be 2 metres apart which we complied with . Not so much now. One metre seems the norm. People don't keep the distance in e.g. supermarkets. Then it was the R number which is now being talked about as it is now over 1.
Now we are at testing which I am sick of hearing about. We all know what to do if we think we have it. Isolate for 14 days alone.

I am now in a local lockdown. I have my bubble group of one family [of 2] and that will be it till lockdown is lifted. Do I like it ? No, but I would rather stay safe. Acceptance of the pandemic is key here. Sadly a lot of people are not accepting this and are not realistic about how it is affecting the WORLD.
Valleyman
19th Sep 2020
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Of course, to be clear, there may be similarities in structure but the effects of Covid are far worse than the common cold. It is a devastating illness.
Valleyman
18th Sep 2020
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More tests, more cases of Covid. How many years has this particular strain been circulating? Test everyone for herpes zoster (shingles) or many, many other viruses and lots of positive results. We need to be guided by hospital admissions, the numbers on ventilators, and the number of deaths. Lockdown for a virus similar to the common cold? Probably not.
iainmedinrun
18th Sep 2020
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The question asks about the Test, Track, and Trace strategy.
I don't think there is any evidence of a strategy - we aren't "following the science", we're reacting to the level of infection.
SueC62
18th Sep 2020
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Well the 'test' part isn't working as no one can get one!

Whilst it should, I don't believe the track and trace part will work either because too much emphasis in this country is put on individuals' rights to say 'no'. Those who know their 'rights' will just refuse to comply with any requests as they do with the requirement to wear a mask.

Interestingly in my observations of mask offences, I see mainly 30s/40s strutting round with smug faces and no masks, older people wearing the masks incorrectly with their noses poking out the top and younger people (teens/20s) wearing the masks correctly.
jenniealpha
18th Sep 2020
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What with not having enough ppe at the start and daily mail having to start up its own company to go abroad and bring back millions of masks and coverings, and now they think too many people are needing to be tested it has obviously happened while the gov and nhs were sleeping again. It seems that this country is doing so much wrong that higher numbers of people will die from covid, not getting tested or treated, and what with all the illnesses not being treated, ie cancer diabetes and the like, then even more people will die which show we cannot stop any deaths at all. Soon there will only be half the country left so we wont need to much of anything to save us
Felix1
13th Sep 2020
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I,ve given in. My husband reckons its here to stay. I need to see an eye specialist for glaucoma and cataracts .... when? I need to see my dentist .... when? I need to see a surgeon re Barretts disease ... when? At this rate it will be too late!
Lionel
13th Sep 2020
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We've all been bludgeoned into wearing face masks in public places and yet the COVID infection numbers are soaring.

Anyone else find this curious?
ArtfulDodger
14th Sep 2020
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Its actually in enclosed public places that the law says we must wear face masks. Perhaps if the requirement were made more general then the rising infection rates might be mitigated?
Lionel
14th Sep 2020
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And perhaps not. It seems to me the donkeys re in charge and the lions still in the stable.

As to whether this is an act of law, and maybe enforced as such, is being debated.
jeanmark
14th Sep 2020
5
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Lionel, I understand your confusion but many people refuse to wear masks in enclosed public spaces. My step-granddaughter is responsible for standing at the door of the shop and garden centre where she works (usually as an events organiser). At 25 she has been incredible shocked at being swore at, spate at and threatened with violence when she tries to enforce the rule. Sadly all by older men who should know better. This behaviour isn't isolated as many shop workers would testify to. We've seen marchers where people believe their human rights are being contravened by the rule to wear a mask. That is one of the reasons we continue to have a problem I have to add that if we had a competent government that gave clear instructions we may also manage things better.
Lionel
14th Sep 2020
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Although I have grave doubts about some things I hear and read I still wear a mask when required. Virtue? No. The fact is, as I see it, whatever beliefs or suspicions I may have, gambling with other people's lives is not in my gift.

I was in Morrisons today in a small market town. A loud mouthed fool was shouting at a member of staff about his rights - haven't they all got rights? He had no intention of using a mask and wanted the world to know his prowess. A few of us gathered around and dealt with him quietly. The pity is, the staff member, a young girl, stood about five foot three to his muscle bound six foot odd. Brave little soul wasn't the least intimidated by him. I was proud of her.

Referring to our government ... philosophically, there are two competing forces in our world. Intelligence and wisdom. It seems to me so many of the world's problems are caused by intelligent fools who lack wisdom or at least the vision to see the outcome of their actions.
shrew1742
15th Sep 2020
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Nothing surprises me any more Lionel. Do the powers
that be not realize that there are probably hundreds of thousands of ' asymptomatic 'people walking about, not knowing they are carrying it as they have no symptoms.
Hence many of us older people who are not really vulnerable have probably had the virus and unaware of it. Just can't see it going away in a hurry !!!
Lionel
15th Sep 2020
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Like you Shrew I can't think what would surprise more anymore unless it is an outbreak of truth and honesty. Allow me to dream, please.

No, this isn't going to be allowed to go away, it's too useful to the powers that be, and far too much money is being made out of it by unscrupulous operators. Reminds me of a good war; there's always those who will make fortunes out of other's misfortunes or death.
jeanmark
15th Sep 2020
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I have to agree Lionel, too much money is being made by people who have no social or moral conscience. My great niece, a front line worker, has just tested positive, and what a surprise, none of her family are able to get a test. This includes my sister and my brother-in-law, despite him being high on the 'at risk' list. My great niece is devastated that she has no way of knowing if she may have infected them.
jeanmark
15th Sep 2020
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Well Lionel, you are being very kind to think our leader actually has intelligence and even any interest in the result of his actions. As long as he gets what he wants, he is happy!
Lionel
15th Sep 2020
2
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Perhaps I'm just being hopeful, Jeanmark. Surely a little hope, even if it is misplaced, is better than total despair. But having said that, even grasping at straws of hope these days is such effort it tires me.
Lionel
15th Sep 2020
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Yes, Jeanmark, it grieves me that anyone would stoop so low as to make money over and above a reasonable profit for services rendered in such a crisis. A think that most useful of human attributes, a lively conscience, has been seared to death by personal greed. What a state of affairs!

I cannot but wonder at the gross mismanagement of our testing effort; so much on our local news bears out precisely what you say. As for your family situation I just don't know what to say. I cannot enter into the state of mind your great niece must be in.
jeanmark
16th Sep 2020
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Thank you Lionel, plus I agree, what a state of affairs indeed.
viking
12th Sep 2020
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If the TV interviews are to be believed, then having to travel hundreds of miles to be sampled, seems to me that is defeating the Governments object over the whole thing.
Arono
12th Sep 2020
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Total nonsense. 1 in 2 million chance of dying of Covid. The cure is worse than the disease.
Wilf
12th Sep 2020
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But if it’s that rare to catch it and the uk has 65 million people only about 120 people would have died and 42,500 have !
jeanmark
12th Sep 2020
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Interesting Arono and on the assumption you are referring to the Covid-19 strain of the virus how do you come to that figure. When you ask what you chances are of dying from the virus, the experts say how difficult the question is to answer. Have you used Case Fatality Rate, Crude Mortality Rate or Infection Fatality Rate, as all will give a different answer?
Arono
12th Sep 2020
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OK Wilf, thanks for your reply. It will all come out in the wash! We will see how many people will die, missed cancer appointments, suicides, heart conditions, poverty, etc etc. History will judge. Take care and stay safe.
Wilf
13th Sep 2020
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Thanks Arono, I totally agree with you about all the other deaths for people. My mum who is 90 is having a lot of problems and everything is being delayed in the NHS due to Covid. I must say the NHS staff themselves are fantastic and the government should pay all of them more as they provide an excellent service.
viking
11th Sep 2020
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Very interesting thread from JM again, which seems to underline a state of affairs which has seen megga amounts of publicity regarding outsourcing. What happened about the dirty hospital wards by outsourced firms ?? Obviously nothing has been learned from this experience. So here we are again according to JM.
Will no one in government learn that to accept the lowest tender will always spell danger, has no one in Government ever been in the commercial world ?? Its no use using the old mantra "it offered the best value for money for the taxpayer " oh really !!!
jeanmark
12th Sep 2020
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Viking that is the point, they have only used private companies that have financial connections with the Conservative party i.e. finical donations to the party, nepotism and friends of MP's and the Lords. None of these things were put out to tender, which is a requirement for every other major government spend!
Wilf
11th Sep 2020
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Why dont we copy a nation that has this thing licked like the South Koreans and Japanese. they have apps and a proper strategy. Surely it cannot be that difficult? can it ?
anubis
10th Sep 2020
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The main problem is not everyone has symptoms so can be totally unaware that they are spreading the virus as they are never tested, also not everyone with symptoms isolates or gets a test if they aren`t severe. There can also be false negative results I prefer to avoid contacts where possible and hopefully avoid catching it as I wouldn`t survive
Tr1sh
9th Sep 2020
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jeanmark
9th Sep 2020
3
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The problem is people believe this is run by the NHS but it is actually run by private companies. The contact tracers are employed by Serco, who were paid £108 million for the first phase of the work, up to late August. The call centre is operated by American specialists Sitel, who were paid £84m for a similar period.

All components – administering tests, processing samples in laboratories, and contact tracing – are contracted to private companies. Multinational consultants Deloitte handle testing logistics, including collection of statistics, and in turn appointed outsourcing companies Serco, Mitie, G4S and Sodexo, together with the Boots pharmacy chain, to run drive-through or walk-in test centres.

There was already an experienced system in Public Health, but they chose to ignore that, instead giving money to private companies with no experience of Trace and Track. Some European countries also had a tried and tested system but that was ignored in favour of paying private companies to develop our own.

A single mother with a young child developed symptoms and was told to travel 100 miles to a test centre, even though she explained she didn't drive. She was just told to ask someone to drive her!
Lionel
9th Sep 2020
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I had no idea such was the case in outsourcing all these vital services. Thanks for telling us all. I've got to say, so far this entire response to COVID 19 seems to have been a shambles, all but for the front line staff who worked themselves to a standstill. A modern day case of heroes led by donkeys? I wonder, time will tell.

At least we're not in a military conflict with Moscow or Beijing. Would Johnson outsource the military response to Disney Corp?
jeanmark
10th Sep 2020
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Well said Lionel and I do believe it's a modern day case of heroes led by donkeys...
Wilf
11th Sep 2020
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I think the main issue Lionel is that the Government has not (well do not appear) to have any strategy. Its just flopping about all over the place. It is a very difficult situation but after 7 months surely they would have a simple strategy they could tell the British people?
Lionel
11th Sep 2020
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Wilf, Government=Simple, surely that is an oxymoron.

At the beginning of this COVID disaster I wasn't too worried. China's figures can't be trusted one way or another and we have, as Jeanmark has so rightly pointed out above, a robust and quite efficient Public Health system. Foolishly, the government outsourced response services to companies with a track record of inefficiencies and who had no prior knowledge of dealing with a pandemic.

What worries me far more than COVID is the present, and near future, state of the country. So many shortsighted and expensive decisions have been enacted; such a gross level of national debt taken on; a National Health Service in disarray ... I could go on.

It has been stated in the press more people are likely to die from lack of appropriate medical treatment than COVID has killed on the worst government figures.

Government = Simple, well, it's the simplest way I can think of the destroy a prosperous country overnight. We voted Conservative in December. We got Corbyn on steroids in March.

Not for nothing have I been calling for a direct democracy and removal of the top one third of the Civil Service. But it won't happen now.
Wilf
14th Sep 2020
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We need proportional representation Lionel. We also need longer terms for governments in some ways so they can get stuff done before the next lot come in and change it all. BUT if we have a situation like now with headless chickens in charge what do we do then?
Lionel
14th Sep 2020
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I've thought about your suggestions throughout the day, Wilf. My first reaction is, we'd better be careful what we wish for.

Of course, our headless chickens frighten the life out of me. My wife and I often ask, what next? But, something more fundamental lingers in mind.

Successive Prime Ministers, at least since Wilson, have negated Magna Carta, the 1689 Bill of Rights, and quite a few other enduring Acts whose content is historically placed even above the monarch in terms of lasting incorruptibility.

For example, the right to trial by jury is replaced by three judges when convenient to the State. Successive Acts have removed our right to self-determination, the right to rear our children according to our beliefs, the right to attend a place of worship and so many more.

We now have a Prime Minister who is behaving as a war leader when no war exists - illegal! Enacting lockdowns and thereby depriving people of their rights to associate freely; to conduct their lawful business without hindrance. He has even dispensed with the Commons - all power is gathered into his hands. Even Churchill couldn't pull off that one!

Cameron and May intended to draft a Bill of Rights to supplant Magna Carta etc., but these historic guarantees may not be amended or negated, unlike a new Bill of Rights.

I believe deeply our historic rights and guarantees must first be restored in full; additionally, a politician, or even Prime Minister secretly signing over control, of our armed forces to another power, for example, or committing high treason in any way must be addressed in a court of law before a jury with full press reporting. The full force of our former Treason Act must be restored.

Only then may we elect another government, they knowing their limitations and penalties for national betrayal. Perhaps the great British Public would have more confidence in their country and it's leaders if their securities here were guaranteed beyond amendment. I know I would.
Wilf
15th Sep 2020
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I think the UK is still a leading light of democracy and law, Lionel. Look at recent legal cases and it doesn't matter how powerful people are they are still not about the law. One of the biggest issues in politics is we simply do not have (neither do a lot of other democracies with exceptions like New Zealand) high enough caliber of people..or people who have leadership-q Thatcher and Roosevelt. The cabinet jobs should pay more have real leaders from industry and the forces, media. maybe time for a rethink?
Lionel
15th Sep 2020
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I couldn't agree more, Wilf. It's been a very long time since we've had people in high office who were both man enough for the job and able to set aside personal interests. And of course, there is the ever-present threat of lobbyists swaying good judgement with inducements.

I believe what we are saying between us, the system is terminally broken, like a bowl of rotten fruit, do what we may it isn't ever going to become wholesome again.

Therefore it must bee discarded as worthless to us and something more reliable and dependable put in place. On that note, may I put a bid in for Minister for Agriculture? I might bruise some vested interests and big landowners but the nation would be fed good, nutritious grub.
Wilf
15th Sep 2020
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Lionel you have my vote to manage Agriculture! Please can I be on the selection committee for new MPs!
Lionel
15th Sep 2020
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Of course, old friend. How about the casting vote from the Chair?

I'd propose you for Head of the Civil Service (good gold plated pension there). You've got more wisdom and integrity in one hair than any incumbent I can recall! Did I say hair? Sorry, it's a saying in my home village from long ago.
Wilf
15th Sep 2020
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Hair? Now I am not sure what that is nowadays Lionel! Ha! I always said more get up ad go in my little finger than others had in their whole body. Not sure about the Civil Service with all those awful meetings and people droning on and on and on and on zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Nevermind that epitome of efficiency Dominic Cummings is going to sort it all out ??...maybe he will move the CS all up to Durham...now there is a thought he was probably just on a recce mission back in the spring! Ha!
Lionel
15th Sep 2020
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Wilf, I think I may be joining you in being hairless soon. The hairline is heading north toward the tonsure which is itself is spreading south, east and west. I feel like putting a pudding basin on my heading, drawing around it and declaring a demarcation line, 'that's far enough chaps.'
Wilf
15th Sep 2020
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Best to just shave it all off Lionel-then no more worries about hair!
Lionel
16th Sep 2020
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That's one giant step for mankind, Wilf. I just don't know if the world is ready for that.
Spanish dreamer
9th Sep 2020
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Had a test, after coming back from spain, result were just after 24hrs, tracker & tracer rang me after a few days to check that I knew what I had to do if I had any symptoms. Luckily I did not
ChristineB488
9th Sep 2020
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I went out for a meal with my sister & her two daughters last Tues, first meal out since March. We booked in at a local pub they took one name & phone number. Had a lovely meal went back home. Thursday my sister became ill & was in bed till Sunday, Friday one of my nieces got a sore throat & temp both could only get a postal test which arrived on Monday they got results back today both positive but thankfully both are better now but now my other niece has a cough. The text they received today says a track & trace form will be posted to them. This means by the time track & trace notify people - earliest this Friday- it will have been over a week since we all met & 8 days since first symptoms so anyone who they came into contact with will have possibly been passing it on for at least 8 days!!! I’ve been isolating since my sister told me on Sunday but if I had been a waitress serving us last Tuesday I wouldn’t know until the earliest this Friday - a totally ridiculous system!!! And as the pub only has one point of contact for each table booking it will be even longer before the people in the pub are advised.
Toonbird
9th Sep 2020
2
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I think it's an absolute disgrace that we are here, this many months into a Pandemic that was first reported in January and on the eve of "flu season" and the government still hasn't got on top of this. Our government has shown us that it does not take this Virus seriously on countless occaisions which is why most of them have been infected. We need a government that leads by example instead of lurching from one stupid idea to the next. No more than 6 people can congregate from this Monday 14th of September but you can go to an enclosed pub or restaurant and sit near people you don't know and are from different households. Someone please explain to me how that makes any sense at all.
Marley444
9th Sep 2020
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Whilst I haven't had personal experience as I have not really been out and about much since March, I have heard that it is a real challenge to get a local test if you need one and some people are being expected to drive 200 miles for a test, which seems ridiculous.

I find it incredible that we still don't seem to be on top of the system of testing and I have no confidence at all that there is a concrete strategy in place - not sure where Boris is, but it feels that he is not at the helm - keep seeing him in hard hats around the country! I feel very uncertain about the winter we will be facing.

So many mixed messages stay in, go out, meet friends, stay in don't meet friends! Go on holiday, don't go on holiday, quarantine but don't get a test - get a test but we don't have capacity!!!!
spencer1
9th Sep 2020
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I totally agree with you
Bald123
9th Sep 2020
4
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Not really simply because the government have not given enough information about it. Why don't they have a website they publish so everyone knows what's going on instead of flit flopping about al the time?
Marley444
9th Sep 2020
2
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