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Are we on a countdown to chaos?

The press is now focussing their reporting on mass crowds gathering on beaches, large gatherings to celebrate the Liverpool football Premier League win and in previous weeks, the protest marches for BLM.

We all know what we see in the papers influences the mood of the nation, and there seems to be a shift in the behaviour of many people now which is also a huge cause for concern especially when pubs open next weekend.

Chief medical officer for England Professor Chris Whitty said Covid-19 cases will ‘rise again’ if people do not follow social distancing guidance. It comes as Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole council declared a major incident after services were “completely overstretched” as huge numbers of visitors crowded onto the beaches during the day.

He wrote on Twitter: “Covid-19 has gone down due to the efforts of everyone but is still in general circulation.

“If we do not follow social distancing guidance then cases will rise again.”

Meanwhile, thousands of Liverpool fans flocked to Anfield on Thursday night to celebrate the club’s Premier League title.

Liverpool fans

Police chiefs warned pubs will be ‘apocalyptic’ on July 4 if the weather stays the same amid fury over them being reopened next Saturday.

It feels like people don’t realise that the virus hasn’t gone away! Have people quickly forgotten the harrowing scenes we saw from the ICU departments of hospitals around the country?

Whilst it is essential to kick start the economy again, are people gathering in large numbers in jeopardy of setting us all back again in the near future?

What are your views? Is it right for the irresponsible behaviour of many to be tolerated? Are there a greater number of responsible people doing the right thing when it comes to social distancing? Should beaches be closed? If you were in power what would you do?  

Are we on a countdown to chaos?

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Stefi
1st Aug 2020
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Some interesting comments from other's. Being a 'Baby Boomer' I am concerned that my generation will be considered as lucky, not to be of working age at this strange time in history with the pandemic.

I am also a WASPI woman and will not be getting my state pension until I reach 66 in a few months time. The UK has got into a mess financially and thing's will probably only get worse, with job losses and houses being re-possessed.

I feel very sorry for all the people who have lost their jobs.
However we must try to keep a control on society and not let violence and fear take over. Will we have to arm our police force for their own protection? I fear we will.

Life is going to be very different until we have a proven vaccine for this virus, worldwide.
marpo2
10th Jul 2020
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Quite a shock to see the percentages for this forum! We have seen enough around where we live to form the opinion that there are quite a lot of people behaving as if the virus has gone for good. They are having BBQ parties, walking with friends, being self-centred and not giving any social distance to others who are outside and the list goes on. Those Herberts who went to Durdle Dor and Kimmeridge and Brighton, Eastbourne etc etc. must be completely stupid to have done so. Some people travelling from 3am to get to a beach where many others were to descend upon it and them. Have they not seen any news items at all? I was diagnosed with a pulminary embolism 7 years ago and I was in a mess (in hospital) so I know first-hand what is possible if the virus is contracted and some. Jeez, these people need putting up against a wall and shooting with fresh slurry - then told why.
Felix1
7th Jul 2020
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Not just chaos, anarchy. I am truly afraid this is beginning already. Riots, murders. Hell.
viking
4th Jul 2020
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Yes you are quite right "the truth67", the big problem is that the so called "experts" do not want to lose face, and rather than admit that they don't know, will bluff with a load of latin terms to confuse the general public.
It really is no sin for the "experts" to say that they just don't know.
The corona virus has caught every one by surprise and as with flu virus will take years [ not months [ to fully understand it and the ramifications of the aftermath on people who have been cured and survived.
thetruth67
3rd Jul 2020
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The chaos is caused by the establishment.
Social distancing varies in different countries,which would indicate no real scientific evidence available to prove that it is effective.
curlytops
3rd Jul 2020
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Far too much all at once. Very few people social distancing in my area, they think its all over!!! Complete idiots.
Margret
1st Jul 2020
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The media, reporters, BBC,and Piers have an awful lot to answer for.
The public who are rioting, beaching,are really just putting two fingers up at the rest of the nation for following the rules.
I also feel in the above agendas if any one from the above gets the virus they should have to pay privately for care as it's not fair that our wonderful NHS should have to help those who DO NOT HELP THEMSELVES!!! When was the last time our wonderful Drs and nurses managed to get to the beach, or our courageous police.
So yes I feel another wave will hit us because of silly uneducated people.
Mike1609
10th Sep 2020
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It all went down the toilet when the Cunning Cummings story broke. And to cap it all the PM encouraged the lies that came after.
PamelaW78
28th Jun 2020
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Chaotic. People being stupid and endangering themselves and others. No common sense - sitting for hours in a traffic jam in a heatwave isn't my idea of fun, no matter how long we've been restricted for.
Valleyman
28th Jun 2020
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Too right Lionel. But it begs the question, why? There is the globalist plan of George Soros/ Tony Blair/ Bill Gates et al which believes in destroying an individuals cultural identity and turning 'somewhere' people into 'nowhere' people. By doing this they can create a flexible and low paid workforce which can be moved anywhere on earth. Of course there are clear differences between different cultures. We are the democratic/ free-speech guys (at the moment). So trying to mash everybody together is going to create a lot of tension, to say the least. I think there may be a kick-back from the British public against the destruction of our way of life. Probably in the form of electing a 'strong' leader. Either way it looks a bit rocky. But it always has been I suppose.
Lionel
29th Jun 2020
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Just cannot believe the naivety of these people going in their masses to these wonderful beaches, the litter they left was quite unbelievable and their social distancing was non existent. So sad, just because this virus, presumably has not affected them or their families they think they’re safe to do as they please, never mind the rest of us who have suffered locked away at home. They could have brought that virus with them unknowingly, to places that have been largely unaffected, I cannot understand how selfish some have become. Could say a lot more but I’m sure everyone has their own opinion.
AllisonW96
28th Jun 2020
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Am convinced there will be a second wave and am not going to joining the mad crowds anytime soon.
Lionel
27th Jun 2020
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Sunbird73 got it just right. 'For years discipline has been undermined by the Political Correct Brigade,' ... at last, we're getting to the bottom of the matter. Thankyou.

It's not enough to just look at the symptoms of a national disaster we must find the root cause and severely punish the perpetrators.

Comparing three living generations it must be obvious. A legalised and managed nose-dive in most aspects of human behaviour. A managed and fuelled growth in selfishness and the end is going to be anarchy. Welcome to a different normality. Welcome to a brave new world.

The tragedy here is not what is unfolding before our eyes, it's the fact we either voted into office the politicians who have masterminded this, or the taxpayer paid to train their experts. We've probably got more analysts per square mile than any other country and we're in a worse mess than almost everywhere else. There's must be a correlation there somewhere.

Standy by, the Army will be needed with rubber bullets and truncheons, the press and TV will be plastered in vox pops of aggrieved offenders and politicians excusing themselves with yet more lies.

Any improvement on the above?
Mari50
27th Jun 2020
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We are most definately on a downward slope to chaos. Bournemouth is a good example. Although there are those who give excuses there is none. It is time people took resposibilty as they have been too long blaming someone else..
I live just south west of Bournemouth in Cornwall. A lot of people are scared because of visitors coming down.
The teenage riots are another example of chaos with people trying to justify their actions. There is no justification and we should take the same stance as Europe instead of being a great big nanny state. People do wrong they should be pu ished instead they are allowed to get away with bad behaviour and who suffers. The innocent!!!!!!
EdnaS
27th Jun 2020
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We must do more than just 'hope' we overcome Covid, and for everyone who has isolated (I've been 17 weeks) I can't comprehend the mentality of people who ignore the rules and just carry on. I consider them totally irresponsible (think they should be fined) and just wonder what sort of people they are to jeopardise what we've already suffered....
Valleyman
27th Jun 2020
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I was dismayed to hear a BBC Radio 4 presenter say the police were reacting differently to the Brixton rioters and the Bournemouth beach goers, because of the 'white issue'. Maybe it's not race? Maybe it's behaviour?Whereas you might need the heavy mob for someone smashing the window of your police van with a table-leg, I'm pretty sure you don't need them to kettle someone reading a book under an umbrella. Saying that, both gatherings are stupid in the extreme, and the mass of human waste (yes of all types) on Swansea's beaches, leaves me feeling a bit sick.
HelenW594
27th Jun 2020
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People are being selfish and putting everyone at risk. I shall stay in lockdown.
BarbaraL37
27th Jun 2020
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Those pictures are from Bournemouth 2011
viking
27th Jun 2020
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The Editor slipped up by saying "We'd love to hear your comments", now look what has happened !!
My comments from way down this thread still apply, and I suspect that even after yesterdays news regarding Liverpool, life will go on as usual in this country the hooligans will reign supreme, the police will still be kneeling [probably on both knees shortly ] and us wrinklies will still be wingeing. Nothing will change !!!
Sunbird73
27th Jun 2020
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The virus and lockdown is showing just how selfish people have become, especially the younger elements who not only crowd onto th beachs ignoring social distancing but also leave mounds of rubbish for others to clear up. For years discipline has been undermined by the Political Correct Brigade who demand that parents, schools and police must not reprimand children in any way if they misbehave and we are now seeing the results.
Casualgrey
27th Jun 2020
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The second wave is coming . look at the states this morning. We normally follow them .. What goes on over there, in time comes to the UK, and now the government is to take off the 14-day quarantine when one comes back to the UK from most of Europe.
I call it being a weak government. Boris seems not to have the same drive and determination since he had the virus but it is common knowledge that virus sufferers take a while to fully recover . Recover completely real soon Boris
Talk to the Spanish people and they will tell you that there are so many Brits and germans who do not respect their country that they would be quite happy if the bad element stays at home and to hell with the money. Yes fine, then look at whats happened this week on our beaches just selfish scum that left so much rubbish on Bournemouth beach alone, 21 tons. How many litter droppers are worried about our oceans. on what we have seen probably ... none...
GerbilJBL
27th Jun 2020
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YES I believe we will have a second wave of COVID 19.
I feel most of us have done all the sacrifices for nothing.
People have soon forgotten the deaths of innocents.
Our government needs extra laws for policing and get tougher.
A second wave means more death, less people to do the work too hold the economy together
GET TOUGH BORIS,
StephanieS62
27th Jun 2020
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Not that long ago a mass protest against pollution and saving the planet but now “what the hell its sunny I want to go on the beach regardless of crowds and I can’t be bothered to take my rubbish home”. People need to get real! Corona 19 kills! Follow the advice and you will get to enjoy the planet for longer... that is of course if we have one left to enjoy and you stop leaving your junk wherever you choose to go!
Anniedunne
27th Jun 2020
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I am really concerned at what's happening. I think the government has not been firm enough and I'm not sure they have taken the best advice from the medical profession. I'm really keen to get back to some normality but I feel the present situation could put us back into lockdown. I live in London and It frightens me how apparently bar's are open with crowds outside them.
SueJ991
26th Jun 2020
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We live in Devon full time we adore where we live and realise tourism allows us to live here full time enjoying the huge variety of pubs restaurants etc. We appreciate we have to cope with the influx of visitors every year that is absolutely no problem however this year we are hugely concerned about so many factors, As far as we are concerned the vast majority of locals have been following government guidelines by the book in view of our local hospital amenities that have been doing an amazing job we do worry with the visitors returning which we need so so much albeit will potentially put a huge pressure on our local NHS . Also we are concerned with over crowded beaches and because of social distancing the government has given permission to allow pubs to use car parks and outside space for guests to have a few pints !!! No problem unless it upsets local residents and holiday makers i n small villages.. It is an absolute minefield as we agreed it s lives against livelihoods. Prof Chris Whitty is a leader in his field and he knows exactly what he is taking about and in true Whitty style he explains the realisation in undertoned and informed style. Of what not heeding the guidance will mean.
Linda Edge
26th Jun 2020
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I feel as though the Government are hanging us out to dry. They know they have protected the NHS, or they think they have, so let everyone loose to do whatever, if a few thousand die along the way at least the economy will be getting back on track. I really do feel that the caring for people has gone.
Wilf
26th Jun 2020
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I think it's all a bit of a mess. The government lost the plot after Dominic Cummings went feral.
SallyM7
27th Jun 2020
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How can the government be responsible for individual behaviours. There has been clear guidance to follow throughout, which has always stipulated that each person needs to play their part in following that guidance. No member of the government has dragged anyone to marches, beaches, shops etc. Or ‘ let them loose,’ These decisions and behaviours have been down to personal, individual, choices and irresponsibility.

Part of caring for society is ensuring the economy survives in order that recession and consequent impoverishment do not disempower quality of life. If there is no economy then whom do you suppose is going to fund furloughed or redundant staff and those dependent on our welfare state?

Constantly seeking to blame government is a total absolution of individual responsibility. We live in a democracy and have free choice - this choice should include empathetic awareness of our behaviours on each other, sadly not that evident !
Sunbird73
27th Jun 2020
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So did Ian Blackstock and Stephen Kinnock so please include them in the mix with Dominic Cummings even if our biased media chose not to mention them
Wilf
27th Jun 2020
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I totally agree with you I guess the only difference is they are not part of the government setting all the policy details
SueC62
3rd Jul 2020
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Whilst I agree that individuals are responsible for their own behaviour, successive governments have passed legislation that seems to have diminished commonsense education so that people can't process logic. Who, with commonsense, would rush to beaches and beauty spots without first considering how to deal with the fact that shops, cafes etc weren't open and, more importantly, public toilets! A few days ago on FB there was a discussion on litter, mainly bags of post picnic litter left at the side of overflowing bins. One lady was saying it was down to councils to provide more bins and it wasn't the fault of the people littering. "What else can they do?" she said, so I asked her did she also condone those who had been defecating on the beach and in people's gardens because the public toilets weren't open and "what else could they do?". Her response was that I was being silly. I checked out her profile and judging by the photos, I'd say she's recently remarried, in her early 40s with two teenage sons. What type of example is she setting them?
VivienneI
26th Jun 2020
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The Police are doing their best but the government needs to clamp down and use our military forces to ensure adherence to rules and help clear up the detritus the offenders leave behind. Otherwise we are heading for a huge spike in Covid19
Casualgrey
26th Jun 2020
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This government needs to harden up. Shut the beaches, give the police more powers
It's obvious the advisors are worried and rightly so . The home secretary with other relevant ministers needs to stop pussyfooting around. If this government does not act now we will be back to square one thanks to a bunch of idiots. Where these beaches and Liverpool fans congregated pass laws to make them legally quarantine which is only advisory at the moment We have the machinery in place its called house arrest.
It is my view the pubs and restaurants are opening too early
DoreenB5
26th Jun 2020
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I think all these people out at beaches etc are being very irresponsible when not sticking to even 1 metre rule. They seem to think they are young but forget they are perhaps going to be in the company of their elderly parents and grandparents. I have been in lock down since 3rd March as I have many underlying illnesses and am still not venturing out. It’s people like this that make us afraid to go out. I pray there isn’t a second wave of this killer virus.
SteveB98
26th Jun 2020
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Unfortunately a high percentage of the population are unable make a rational decision and consider the consequences of their actions. Is living your life, “self first, self last and self in the middle “.
RachelA66
26th Jun 2020
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Unfortunately, there are too many selfish, narcissistic morons who, will never learn. Our beaches are the sanctuary for many people, the coastal and marine life, shouldn't be treated with such distaste & disrespect.
I can only imagine the state of their living environment,

Sorry universe ®️
Havering
26th Jun 2020
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People need to study medical history in regard to these events, and what happens when we ignore the consequences of our actions. Now we're going to re-open the pubs, adding alcohol to the mix of ignorance and stupidity.
Rosedeb
26th Jun 2020
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Myself and my husband have continued to work throughout this crisis as have thousands of others, while some people (not all), have abused being furloughed by treating it as an extended paid holiday.
They now are putting in jepody the hard work and sacrifices of those who have abided by the rules. Do they not realise that even if they are not effected they could be putting members of their families at risk.
We all want to get back to a new normal and it is nice to get out and about more, but please for goodness sake stop this madness.
DoreenB5
26th Jun 2020
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I totally agree with you Rosedeb. PEople like you and your husband has given everything to serve the community throughout this pandemic and then these morons carryon like everything is grand that the killer virus has gone away. I for one thank you!
Sue stretton
26th Jun 2020
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And it really scares me. Not only massing together in their thousands but leaving the filth behind them. The beaches were left in a most disgusting state and I don't just mean ordinary litter!
Rosedeb
26th Jun 2020
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Yes I'm just watching the local news, residents are having to clean up after these stupid people
MoniqueS1
26th Jun 2020
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Although i have to admit the weather etc has been glorious . taking a lax approach and joining large groups of people without proper distancing masks etc will have us all isolating again and probably for longer ,,,, best thing would be to abstain and lower our chances of getting ill ..... I feel sorry for our hardworking key workers who have gone above and beyond so far to help safeguard us all ....The attitude of those ignoring safety is like slapping every doctor , nurse, & keyworker in the face ......
Margaret Hart
26th Jun 2020
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I couldn’t believe what I saw on the television last night, how can people be so senseless. I am still on full lockdown. So I’m well away of how tedious it is + boring. And lonely but if we want rid of this COVID 19 we have to do what is required which is definitely social distancing and even that is being changed to one metre in 8 days time to enable more businesses to open particularly the social scene. I know it was hot yesterday but it was hot on the beach as well although we couldn’t see the beach for the people. Then there was the Liverpool supporters who were told to stay at home and watch it on the television set but once they were winning that instruction was ignored and many ended up outside the stadium but they didn’t make a lot of trouble like there had been in Bournemouth And Sandbanks together with cars everywhere including illegal parking. I doubt if any of them will be back to clean the beach today as it’s too much to ask that visitors should take their rubbish home.
Some people even bury dirty nappies in the sand. - how disgusting have they been dragged up. Nearly 45 thousand people have died in the U.K. but it seems people have very short memories or they just don’t care. Apart from the loss of life the economic cost to this country has yet to be realised but it will certainly be equal to the full years expenditure for the U.K. so Government will have to borrow an enormous amount f money and if we get another spike I don’t know what will happen as the country will most definitely be bankrupt.. I’m bothered for my son and Granddaughter as I am 73 so it’s not really going to have much to worry about for my myself but young people will be paying for this for the rest of their lives.
However we don’t want another spike we want this one shut down and enough time left for a vaccine to be found to save literally the world!
marieeadie
26th Jun 2020
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as many as possible need identifying with card use and car parking, parents taken to court for endangering their child's life and health,and also fined for not following the rules made about spacing and travelling. as they are possibly now infected, and passing it on to others. they may have signed the death warrant for all the family, make the fines for every person to include how many in the family and singular visitors. and make them pay for own tests for virus. and if in a financial position (on a wage of 65 thou between all incomes coming into household, ) be made to make payments towards healthcare even if its 1 hundred, as they caused the problem and are responsible for the illness being caught, also the government have not really given out stern instructions its open to individual reading of it and what it really means. no structure.to it.
KateS768
26th Jun 2020
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If we don't continue with social distancing and strict hygiene measures, preferably with compulsory mask wearing in shops and shared buildings, we will see another spike.
Joan Fraser
26th Jun 2020
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Ministers who are too lily-livered to insist or legislate for safety measures, selfish idiots who believe they are invincible, and no one considering the strain these mass gatherings put on the same Key Services we were applauding just a few weeks ago. To say I am disgusted would be an understatement! We have family that are liable to be shielding until September/October, I can't return to work because of the vulnerability of clients, and would be considered a potential 'super spreader' as I travel by public transport, and although not 70 - I'm still considered 'older'. I think what disappoints me more than anything is the way all hopes for a better 'new normal' seem to have been dashed and written off
viking
26th Jun 2020
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Wow is this the longest thread so far ??
Government collusion with big business wanting to earn at least medium bucks, so they have taken the softly softly approach. This together with Cressida Dick [we were warned before her appointment of her views ] who seems to want another softly softly approach to anything to do with policing.
For Gods sake Boris let us have firm action, instead of giving way to political correctness + softly softly.
The younger generation just see the lack of response from those in authority as a green light to misbehave and endanger us all.
JanN2
26th Jun 2020
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We have done really well to reduce the numbers from a very high starting point. However I think we are heading for a second wave without doubt. It is only safe if everyone does the right thing, gets tested, isolates, cooperates with NHS Test & Trace etc and to be fair I think the majority of people do understand this and will do it. There is a small minority who don’t care about anyone else, seem to have neither parents or grandparents who could be at risk and are hell bent on doing what they want. The government seem to have just given up, Boris is bored with the whole thing but the country still needs leadership and direction and encouragement to keep doing the right thing. Sadly I think we are on our own and the 2nd wave is coming to a place near you very soon.....
JE
26th Jun 2020
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I really don’t know what to say other than the country has gone mad!
I think there are several factors contributing to the current situation including cabin fever from lockdown, hot weather, closure of leisure facilities, bars and festivals, no schools open, little chance of holidays this year etc etc.
And of course we have our usual groups of idiots we have no respect for the law, other people or property and are hell bent on “enjoying THEMSELVES ” at any cost.
I just wonder how many of those involved are still receiving their salaries, are supposed to be working from home or are receiving payment under the furlough scheme to which we are contributing.
It would seem that the only way to deal with these crowds is to get tough and round them up and move them on. - like cattle!
GillanddavidD
26th Jun 2020
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I feel that Boris is being too soft at the moment. The exit is so important or we will be overwhelmed again. So many still do not understand the serious of COVID. People who do not listen must be punished in some way and the Police should have more powers to contain the minority. The world has suffered and is still suffering. Those who are shielding should not feel they are doing this vein
bun
26th Jun 2020
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I feel we will be back in lock down again soon ,if Boris doesn't start being a bit more assertive and giving police and local government the power to stop all these things ......why are they not putting up road blocks at these resorts or for local use only or we can only go in a 10 miles radius of homwe unless for work etc ...and in liverpool why wasn't the crowd dispersed , blow the football ,I want to feel safe , and at the moment I don't ....and as for the 'riots' in London rubber bullets , water cannons etc ...they would soon back off then ......or put them all in wembley stadium and lock them in and they can 'kill' oneanother , rather than the rest of the country
marjorie75
26th Jun 2020
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Very glad I live in Wales I live in Llangefni where we have an outbreak in the local meat packing factory with 200 people testing posative in the last week thank goodness we can only travel 5 miles from home and are still social distanceing at 2 metres or this would have spread into the comminity. Good luck to England if they carry on like this.
PhyllisR
26th Jun 2020
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As a Specialist Nurse with Northwest Ambulance Service, we are all dreading the weekend of the 4th of July. From the pattern so far, it will be a weekend fuelled with drugs and alcohol.
YvonneD66
26th Jun 2020
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The type of behaviour such as we have seen recently should definitely not be tolerated. The beaches should be closed NOW. The Government was late in imposing the lock down in March - were no lessons learned? It will be catastrophic if pubs are allowed to open next week too.
I fear we are in for a second wave of the virus.
mdan2011
26th Jun 2020
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I have read a lot of people's views and opinions here and have to say that I agree with them all. We really are at risk from a second wave and I feel it will be bigger than the first. Money and finance are the governing factors at play. Why are footballers allowed to play their matches, but school children must keep social distancing in the playground. It is double standards. As for some people who are being furloughed and sunning themselves on the beach I think it is disgraceful. As for the rubbish left afterwards don't get me going on that! The police also seem helpless and without clear authority from the government as to what to do about any lack of social distancing and large gatherings. Just close the beaches. It is so simple. In the meantime people; please stay safe and keep a good distance from each other.
Supersabre
26th Jun 2020
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In my part of the UK, there were 18 mile jams on the motorway. Anyone who wants to spend time in traffic like that, certainly a bit short of common sense!
SparkInTheDark
26th Jun 2020
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Too much is dependent on people using their common sense but it is clear that a small minority either don't have or won't use it. I think most of us, who have adhered to the the social distancing rules and generally stayed at home, have had enough of the idiots who think that they are entitled to do whatever they want. They aren't.
Catton
26th Jun 2020
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Oh yes. I forgot to mention . Where was the social distancing at the Liverpool football game celebrations last night.
Did it not start here months back at a football match ?
Catton
26th Jun 2020
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We knew this would happen. It is summer and the weather is great.
We have been cooped up at home for months so it is a natural reaction. However it seems that this has triggered memory loss in young and old.
There are not enough police to cope so bring in the army to help as they did in Spain, Italy, S. Korea, China.
This virus is NOT going away. I live alone and have missed company greatly these last months. Much as I want to see people near and far, hug people, eat out, shop and do all the normal things I would not risk others or myself by doing the opposite of the government's advice.
EileenL62
26th Jun 2020
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I agree, if the government care about us then ALL large gatherings need to be policed and broken up - get the army in to help. We are set on a course of self destruction if not.
It’s not ‘if there is a second wave’ it’s when will it be . I reckon September will find us all paying with our lives
Wilf
26th Jun 2020
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There is one huge "elephant in the room" as they say. Everyone is crowding about and enjoying themselves-fair enough-nobody has yet asked Covid 19 if it would like to restrict contamination! The virus is still here-has not changed and if we are not careful we will have second waves. Boris needs to have another slogan for the 4th July!
WendyA6
26th Jun 2020
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I think pub and restaurants should be closed for much longer let everyone settle into routine with what's going on at the moment. There will be more work for police to do people will be fighting through alcohol and people won't take any notice of self distencing and for all those people who passed away bacuse of the virus and still dieing there should be respect to them and their families....
blumist
26th Jun 2020
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If pubs and restaurants are going to re open thyy need to do so during the day, not the night. This will give landlords,staff and customers a chance to get used to the new procedures. Night time opening for pubs often ends with overcrowded areas and possibly disorder.
Get used to the new routine during the day, then introduce evening opening later.
MaryH81
26th Jun 2020
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A lot of people still do not really think the virus is real. Incredible, I know, but most people do not know anyone who is a confirmed Covid-19 case, let alone anyone who has died. I've tried to argue that even though the number of confirmed cases in my county, Nottinghamshire, is relatively small compared with the total population, the cases
are spread around the county and they have not all caught it in the same place. There are many many people who have the virus who have little or no symptoms and they are all around us and if people completely ignore social distancing the numbers will rise again. I go out walking every day. Many people observe social distancing but many don't, among them manic joggers and cyclists who don't want their training interrupted and groups of people socialising in the park. Some people seem blithely unaware. Some dog walkers think that if you veer away from them it is because you are frightened of their dogs. " He won't hurt you, dear" one old lady said to me the other day. When explained to her that I was social distancing she said "Oh yes. You mean that Covid thing". I hope the numbers of Covid sufferers does not increase but I very much fear it will. I think it is only because so many people ARE being careful that the NHS has not been totally overwhelmed before now, but as the lockdown is eased perhaps more of us older people will need to further isolate ourselves.
Yagala
26th Jun 2020
3
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So why this unacceptable "protest" (translate into rampage), because that is what it really is, I have been in protest marches to which we first applied for a march and after that we calmly marched along in rows of people, chanting, singing and shouting, but no wilful causing damage to buildings, goods or people and in the end we got what we came for, as people originally from this country and no migrants.

There is a saying from my youth; The house in which I live, the food that I consume, I keep all clean and tidy.

There is nothing anything like that anymore today.
MaryH81
26th Jun 2020
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Most people who go on protest marches are law-abiding. You mostly only see the ones who are not law-abiding, because for the press it makes for more sensational reporting. I don't agree with violence against anyone, man or beast or the pulling down of statues and graffiti and damage to public monuments, but I do think that as a country we do need to acknowledge our country's mistakes of the past and realise that some statues need to go in museums with an appropriate plaque.
Yagala
27th Jun 2020
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Hi MaryH81, apologies for answering late but I had to help several people with problems with their laptops, and I wanted to do that first before I went onto the social tour, I am not much with social newsletters.
I know about people I used to be a migrant myself all those years go ne by and I had to fight my way up very hard.
Now I am there and I do not like to see a lot of these people trying everything in order to get into this country and once settled they see what others got and they did not get, forgetting one has to work hard in order to get the things other people has.
I never begrudge other people for what they have, though a lot of people begrudge me for what I have.
Work, any kind of work, would do wonders for these kind of people.
Maybe they will understand in time to come.
MrsPat
27th Jun 2020
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I totally agree with you I think it is the media that plays it all up as they need to be dramatic and normal people in a march or on a beach does not do this.
ElisabethR
28th Jun 2020
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With the first march protesting at the horrendous death of George Floyd I had loads of sympathy. Not happy with rent a mob though. Now I know what BLM is all about.... Marksism, bring down the government, police force prisons etc.... Yes I made it my business to find out.... I wonder how many of those marching know this. I don't go with the idea they have been hard done be. They are mostly British and have been educated. I have many BAME friends and have always treated them as my friends without thinking of distinctions. Now with some I feel nervous that I may inadvertently offend.
You cannot change history. Mao discovered this to his cost and a lot of damage to China.
It seems to me at the moment that to get your way you scream racist very loudly and the powers that be will bow down.
I will not apologise for this countries past. Tony Blair tried that one. This is a far left movement.
We live in one of the most tolerant countries in the world. Don't let's loose sight of this. Quite frankly I am much more concerned with modern day slavery.
SallyB53
26th Jun 2020
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Unbelievable how irresponsible and selfish people can be.....almost as if everyone else is the problem not them.
If places are busy why do people still think its ok for them to add to the number of people instead of going elsewhere?
Even though the numbers on the beaches looks horrendous it is still a minority of people flouting the rules and THAT IS NOT FAIR to all those still obeying them.
ChristineG458
26th Jun 2020
7
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I feel upset & ashamed by this behaviour. To take these risks is so disrespectful to the wonderful health professionals who have worked tirelessly & dangerously to keep people with the virus from dying. It is also disrespectful to the people who have lost their lives to this terrible destructive disease. There are 2.2 million people shielding who haven’t left their homes for nearly 4 months, over a quarter of the year. How must they feel? These idiots are selfish, arrogant, cruel pigs who are leaving a trail of acrid waste, destruction & germs in their wake. Shame on them!
mralan
26th Jun 2020
6
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They are selfish stupid people who don’t care for anyone but the,selves.
JanetA78
26th Jun 2020
8
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A lot of comments on here are about "youngsters" breaking all the rules and heading to the beach I live at a seaside resort and i can tell you from experience that this is not always the case .Caravan owners (who are mostly older) have arrived in droves over the last week or so Everyone is fed up with being told what to do and where they can go.. so human nature being what it is ,,they see a light at the end of the tunnel and head straight out ! You cant really blame them BUT it would have been better to have waited a little while longer to be as sure as possible that its not making a bad situation worse On the beaches abroad there has been a concerted effort to keep sunbathers apart on the beach .It could have been done here too if the powers that be sorted it out ..We live at the coast but havent been on the beach in over 3 months ,,if we can do it so can the rest of the country !! We need tourists but not at the expense of someones life..
HilaryH5
26th Jun 2020
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How can people with caravans arrive in droves the sites don't open until July 4th then they WILL arrive in droves. We are caravaners and staying put!!!
LornaT13
26th Jun 2020
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HilaryH5. Sadly irresponsible people are arriving at holiday destinations in droves. I live in the West Country and nothing has been open at all yet since the "loosening" of the lockdown rules, we have had camper vans and caravans in their droves turning up and just staying where they are parked up for as long as they choose to. I really don't understand their mentality because the only places that gave been open are quite literally the supermarkets and nothing else - there are not even any public toilets open so it doesn't take a genius to work out how they're coping with that! As locals we have all been on lockdown and abiding by the rules for the duration yet these selfish idiots who clearly believe the rules don't apply to them think nothing of doing exactly what they want without thought or consideration for anyone else. Even our very small police force have been unable to stem the tide. Fortunately these idiots are only a tiny minority in the scheme of things but they are the ones who will put others at risk and probably come out of it unscathed.
JanetA78
27th Jun 2020
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There are such things as touring caravans !! And just because you are staying put doesnt mean everyone else is.. Even though sites have been closed and fenced off some "entitled" people park their cars up in a quiet spot and climb over the barriers We have seen this happen ..at least 2 cars been parked up outside a site since before Easter ! There are also the ones who ,even if the sites were open are too stingy to pay the site fees for their tourers and park (illegally ) overnight in a layby ..We expect an influx of tourists and welcome them because the economy of resorts depends on them BUT not everyone is as upright as you seem to be and will put their own needs first I was chatting to a lady while queuing for a shop and she admitted they had brought their tourer because they were "fed up" of staying at home and were going to stay for the summer season This was a week ago and sites are closed ,so tell me. where did they stay ?
JanetA78
27th Jun 2020
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Agree totally !! There will always be the ones who bluster and rant but just because they dont come to the coast doesnt mean everyone else is staying away ! We live on the coast and i have only been out for essential shopping Not seen the beach for over 3 months !! I sympathise with people who have paid their site fees for the year and not been able to come but they will get a refund or credit for when the sites open But i feel more sorry for our community who have to watch all their sacrifices trying to keep safe only to be undermined by the selfish acts of some .. Keep safe
Mikes2ndwife
26th Jun 2020
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Senseless stupidity!
carolp1974
26th Jun 2020
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I am so angry these people have no idea,we are on dangerous ground,what have we all been isolating all these weeks for.is this the cummings affect.My partner as been isolating for 14wks,cos he has underlying conditions,i have had my daughter shopping for us.these people have abused the system,and left it in a tip too.
SuzannaP
26th Jun 2020
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Shut the beaches and the beauty spots.
Empower police to act and recruit more of them.
If need be employ the army.
If we do nothing and let this go on many thousands more of law abiding people will die or be left with severe debilitating health conditions.
SynnoveV
26th Jun 2020
7
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The irresponsible behaviour of some can have a serious impact on us all. It is very sad and upsetting to see that some cannot be trusted to follow government advice for an issue as serious as Covid-19.
The government ought to put more restrictions in place so people cannot travel so far and the virus can be better controlled.
Travelbug1211
26th Jun 2020
7
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How can you vote? There are actually 3 questions in that sentence!

Q1. Is it right for the irresponsible behaviour of many to be tolerated?
Answer: NO

Q2. Are there a greater number of responsible people doing the right thing when it comes to social distancing?
Answer: YES

Q3. Should beaches be closed?
Answer: NO - But policed properly like car parks are - When full, they are full! Turn back traffic from outside the district when car parks are full, or change car parks to half capacity! All these things should be monitored - Everyone knew the good weather was on the way. There was plenty of warning, so policing by Council operatives and police / Community police should have been on alert!

I don't live anywhere near a seaside, infact couldn't be further away, but I wouldn't want to sit on a beach with thousands of other hot sweaty people swigging beer and eating burgers! Defies belief!
simbadog
26th Jun 2020
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You are absolutely right Travelbug123 the minority spoiling it for the rest!!
I live in Spain and we have just emerged from one of the strictest lock downs in Europe and are still subject to social distancing and the wearing of masks in public..
It's hot here now and we are using our beaches again but again with restrictions. Spain like many other Popular European destinations have opened up their boarders to welcome the tourists back and help kick start the economy again. But I have to say we are apprehensive here especially if the irresponsible minority that are making the news over there happen to holiday on our shores!!
CarolB52
26th Jun 2020
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These beach- visiting, littler- leaving, covid danger -ignoring youngsters are quite possibly the same people who were saying a few years ago (Brexit time) that us "oldies" shouldn't have the vote because we are losing the plot and don't know what we are talking about.
Annie77
26th Jun 2020
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It’s irresponsible to go flocking to beaches like sheep ,the people that that live there I can imagine they don’t want them there ,,it’s just risking lives again !
oorlottie
26th Jun 2020
3
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These people are so selfish! Wave 2 here we come and the many deaths that will follow will be down to these irresponsible idiots. I wouldn't like to have their conscience. oh wait, they probably don't have one!
JHB57
26th Jun 2020
6
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Boris was a bit ambitious when he thought the great British would be sensible
JudyW7
26th Jun 2020
8
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I bet if it was these youngsters who were vulnerable to COVID-19 and not the elderly, you wouldn't see them for dust!
HilaryH5
26th Jun 2020
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Im afraid its an 'it won't happen to me' attitude by all age groups,
Hilary43
26th Jun 2020
3
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The sort of chaos we are heading for is by the government taking away more of our freedom
JudyW7
26th Jun 2020
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I think that is a natural reaction to everybody's fear of catching the virus,, no-one wants to think of the worst case scenario, but I think the majority of vulnerable/over70's abide by the rules, whilst the youngsters don't, because they are not the vulnerable ones.
jemini100
26th Jun 2020
8
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I think that recently the general public have shown that they cannot be trusted to be sensible therefore beaches and parks should be closed down.
MartineL
26th Jun 2020
8
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To add to my comment my hardest thing to bear is l have a little grandson now over 6 weeks who I dearly want to cuddle so a other plea from a tearful grandma please think of others before you act
Annie53
26th Jun 2020
8
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and the increase in pollution I am ashamed of my fellow countrymen.
HappyHippie
26th Jun 2020
10
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I have been in lockdown since April and was looking forward to the day when I could walk on the beach, wander into town for coffee, visit friends and family, now looking at these selfish young people it seem like I will be stuck at home for the foreseeable future. Thing is, they have read all the figures and know the most likely to die are the old and vulnerable, so there thinking is 'We will be OK to pack the beaches and parks because it doesn't affect us' I want to hug my family but the selfish actions of the the younger generation is going to make this impossible for a very long, long time.... I'm past being angry, I'm just very very sad right now as I can't see any end to this x
PatriciaF16
26th Jun 2020
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I am so glad that my family live in Wales. Here they are proceeding with caution. For the Prime Minister to say that he is believing in the people to stay safe and alert is crazy. Some were carrying on as if nothing had happened when we were in lock down. Government promised to follow scientific advice but appear to be giving in to the financial advisors. What happened to caring for the NHS.

Which is more important people s lives, the education of children, visiting the dentist or Dr receiving cancer treatment and similar or going to the Pub?

After not seeing my family for. over thirteen weeks apart from their dropping shopping off I am allowed to meet them in the garden. garden yet players can play football! Priorities seem all wrong somewhere.

I would happily stay safe all summer and see my family and friends safely at the end of it. if a second spike appears it will feel as if we wasted our time.

I do appreciate that these are unprecedented times and there are numerous situations to take into consideration. it seems too much too soon. The majority of people I speak to say exactly the same. There are a huge amount of frightened people out there and some of it due to selfish, irresponsible idiots.
MartineL
26th Jun 2020
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I am so sad that so many total idiots are disrespecting the police and pleas from advisors that we must still respect this virus a d what it can still do to our friends and loved ones and the rest of the human race Stay safe be sensible for goodness sake please!!!
AnitaM54
26th Jun 2020
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I can't believe the stupidity of people, we are heading for a second wave of coronavirus
Jacquie T
26th Jun 2020
8
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This is making me very annoyed, I have been in lockdown for 15 weeks and can’t wait to get out but thanks to all these idiots the chances are I’ll still be here at Christmas. At my age (70) you want to enjoy what time you have left not spend all day watching repeats on t.v.
BrendaG9
26th Jun 2020
9
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This is total madness and ignorance. It is not fair to everyone who has been following the rules.
Andrew49
26th Jun 2020
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Charge them all £30 to park their cars that may deter a few at least.
LornaT13
26th Jun 2020
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Andrew49 That's a brilliant idea but sadly it won't deter them because the idiots will just park wherever they feel like irrespective of the needs of local people and risk to others.
MrsPat
27th Jun 2020
1
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Yes I agree and that will pay for all the litter to be picked up.
MrsPat
27th Jun 2020
1
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Maybe they then need to be clamped and £50 fine to unlock which can be spent on litter collection
hatters
26th Jun 2020
10
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Why have my husband and I been isolating for 14 weeks? My husband is on the vulnerable list so I think we have been outside our home once. What part of social distancing do people not understand ‍♀️‍♀️‍♀️
DawnW79
26th Jun 2020
9
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Some people are hell bent on pressing the self destruct button and couldn't give a damn about anyone else! I wonder how many employers are paying these people who are breaking/ignoring all of the rules, to be at home working? Even worse, how many of these people are being furloughed by the taxpayer, most of whom and following the rule. Unfortunately there is no real deterrent for disobeying the rules - maybe that's what we need in this country?
GwenH79
26th Jun 2020
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This is not responsible behaviour. Not only breaking the distancing rules but leaving litter behind for others to clean up and goodness knows what else. It is a difficult time but it will get worse again if people are not prepared to listen.
blumist
26th Jun 2020
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This will sound ridiculous, but if the beaches weren't cleaned up after the lazy louts would people want to use them?
GwenH79
26th Jun 2020
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I thought the same, Would they like to go back and sit in the filth they left behind!!, How do they feel today? Sorry! I think not.
anubis
26th Jun 2020
10
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We have been shielding for almost 4 months sticking to the rules to avoid hurting ourselves and others, just as we are told its safer to go out doors not completely safe but reduced risk this sort of thing happens. There are a lot of asymptomatic people out there passing it on without knowing to people who will travel back home and pass it on to others family and friends some of whom will die. We wear masks and gloves and stay 2 meters away from even family who have been keeping us fed who also do the same to keep us safe. Two of my daughters are key workers, one caught the virus and was really ill another tested positive with no symptoms both isolated and because they were so careful kept it from their immediate families and us. It breaks my heart to think how much they have done to protect us and idiots who can`t respect the rules takes risks like this. It shouldn`t be advice it should be set in stone to protect all
Bob Walton
26th Jun 2020
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A few weeks ago on social media it was "all in this together", and "when this is over we won`t go back to how we were". Well that`s gone out the window then. We were also going to use our cars less for the sake of the environment, and be more aware of the people around us, help those in need etc etc. So what happened, its all back to normal, look after number one and never mind the next guy. Typical response from a selfish nation, we all need to take a long hard look at ourselves.
Danno1
26th Jun 2020
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We all knew that was going to happen Bob
Billythequiche
26th Jun 2020
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Thought things had gone to hell in a hand basket during the Brexit debacle, but the present is a different order of magnitude.
The pandemic was unexpected by all except those who asked for contingency planning and then were ignored. The level of hypocrisy is staggering. Regardless of how you personally rate the Governments performance, it is easy to see the "Lose, lose" situation they are in. Too soon, too late, too easy too hard; I am very glad that I don't have to make the decisions. There are hoards of people who say they would have done better but that is from the glorious heights of hindsight. The situation with schools would be laughable were it not so tragic. After pressuring the government that children must be allowed back to school for their education and mental health, an unholy alliance of unions, teachers and councils is making it virtually impossible. I am sure that the children are he last thing on their mind. One "honourable Gentleman", purporting to represent the "people", seeks to hinder the return while his own children have been at school throughout as he was classed as a key worker. So, the screwed tight cap of the lockdown has been eased and the expected has happened, the bottled up contents have fizzed over. Same for everyone? Is it? Or is it the same entitlement feeling idiots who emptied the shelves of flour and toilet rolls? While councils declare a "major incident" and then do precisely nothing, the police try to "give advice".
Then there is the wave of anarchy purporting to highlight racial inequalities. I do not know what sort of dialogue it was supposed to stimulate. It seems only to have poured fuel on the burning violence of the basest of our society. This is further whipped up by the attention seeking famous with pathetic displays of virtue signalling. From their wealthy position, ignorant of life in the streets, they conspicuously spend their money until the next populist cause comes along.
We have unedifying sight of our Police: taking the knee, taking a laid back approach, looking to defuse, adopting a non confrontational stance and even holding up a flag/banner claiming gypsy rights. What we don't have is police keeping "The Queen's Peace", we don't have our safety, property and historical freedoms being protected. The traditional front line bobby is trying desperately to do their jobs while being neutered. I do not know if that sounds as powerful as "emasculated" but will be more acceptable to the thought police.
I hope this sounds more like a reasoned argument rather than an "old fart's" rant.
To my increasingly paranoid mind, there is one theme that unites all of these threats to our society. POLITICAL CORRECTNESS has been allowed to become a cancer in our vitals. Until our leaders in Commerce, Law and politics are chosen and promoted for their skill and dedication and not for their perceived political correctness, our nation will not prosper again.
I shall now retire and await being dragged to the stocks.
ValerieB49
26th Jun 2020
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I totally agree with your comments.
BrendaG9
26th Jun 2020
6
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Totally agree with you. Do we have to blindly follow that crazy country of America? Our police are exemplary in comparison to theirs,ours are held to account more.. Racism should not exist but it goes both ways and as for political correctness I happen to think there was less trouble when that didn’t exist!
mdan2011
26th Jun 2020
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I agree with everything you have said.
LornaT13
26th Jun 2020
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Billythequiche you have summed it up perfectly in words that we all understand and have been thinking ourselves. Political correctness certainly is the malignant cancer in our society today, the responsibility of which can be laid at the door of the EU - so thank god we are almost free of them. However it has produced a generation of extreme left wing fantasists and activists who want to rob us of our freedoms and rights, as was clearly shown during the 3.5yrs of achingly painful Brexit behaviour and that is likely to be filtered down to the next generation or two before things can markedly change. We barely have any rights or freedoms left and the police have hardly any powers over us. I would really love to see major change during my lifetime for the better and being an independent country once again will be a start to achieving that but sadly it probably won't benefit our generations who were born prior to the 1990s
Billythequiche
27th Jun 2020
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Sadly you may be right. Someone clever once said something along the lines of "it only takes good men to say nothing to allow bad men to prosper", I think. I hereby declare that the word "men" is a general term indicating Homo Sapiens and is not meant to exclude any gender, physical, mental or self proclaimed that is waiting to be insulted. Sorry, but you see how ludicrous it has become.
I have never been a bigot, racist or prude. I do admit to chuckling at jokes (in their time) that poked fun at all colours, all religions, all regional accents, wives and of course, Mother-in-laws. More recently, certain female comics have have had men squirming at concerts with comments about physical topics and equipment that would in the past have been restricted to a private bedroom. There is no harm in this as you have the choice to attend or not. Personally I would not attend a concert by Chubby Brown or Jo Brand, but thousands do. It is our right to say "it's not for me" as it is their right to love it.
My issues start when a minority group of any sort demand that I only think and repeat THEIR point of view. NO! NO! NO! They have the absolute right to express their views and I have the right to express mine. It used to be that you could say pretty much anything that wasn't untruthful, treasonous or blasphemous. Blasphemy seems to have disappeared as church attendances have dropped.
Who decides what can be said or alluded to? A biased National Broadcaster? Mainstream media from right to left? Facebook? Google? Judiciary that would prefer to demonstrate how liberal they are rather than reflecting the views of the population in general?
I have no answers that are not personal and could be printed. That is normal, it is right that everyone has differing opinions. What is NOT right would be to try and impose my opinions on others by violence, political chicanery or social blackmail.
I would challenge those who have influence by dint of sport, media, senior management or entertainment. Are your views sincerely held? Are they free of self serving social preening? Are they free of financial gain? Are they free of political manoeuvring?
If I have stirred anyone to disagree with me in any way, great. That is the point, the freedom to say so.
If I have insulted or upset anyone, I am sorry, that was not my intention; but I would risk one more question? Are you really upset, or have you been told you should be upset.
Having a rant on here is better than spreading infection and rubbish on our beaches or assaulting our police.
Lionel
27th Jun 2020
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No stocks here Billy. Spot on.
LynneC441
26th Jun 2020
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I was an infant school teacher for 30+ years. ALWAYS on any outing rubbish left d was seen as a heinous crime, on the coach as well as at the venue and I'd like to think all teachers behaved the same. BUT even at 4 and 5 years old not all the children automatically cleared up behind themselves. Some had first to be shown that you don't leave your rubbish behind and subsequently constantly reminded... So that's where these people have risen from and it's why this generation is so indifferent towards looking after their own back yard. It HAS to be home based and in an increasing number of cases it's not.
parsnip54
26th Jun 2020
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What the h€%l is going on. Somebody please take responsibility for running this country and let’s get it back under control. Don’t threaten to close the beaches, CLOSE THEM. Stop the football. It’s, as usual, favouring the Premier League. If the other leagues can’t complete their seasons why should the Premier League.
What’s going to happen when the pubs reopen. A few drinks inside some of these idiots and god knows what will happen.
Also the protesters supporting BLM and LBGT gatherings. I respect your beliefs and feelings so please respect ours by following the advice given. Or should we consider a White Straight movement to protect the majority of the population.
And I still can’t hug my grandchildren!!!
Is this the way to carry on ???
God help us.
mdan2011
26th Jun 2020
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Well said. Agree with what you have said.
MrsPat
27th Jun 2020
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I think you have hit the nail on the head parsnip-there is nobody running the country it is in free fall
JenniferT57
26th Jun 2020
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At the start of the outbreak in the Uk, as now, the Government was hopeful the common sense of the people would obviate the need for the more draconian measures of lockdown. Alas, such hopes were misplaced and naive. One thing about common sense these days is that it is far from common! Nothing has really changed from those early days, in spite of the months in lockdown, at considerable cost financially to the country, and emotionally to individuals. Thus, unless certain individuals stop acting as though it is all over, and start acting more responsibly, we will be back to square one. Unless the police are allowed to police proactively to get these idiots out of general circulation (enforced 14 day quarantine for all found indulging in risky behaviour such as the parties of the last couple of days maybe?) it seems pretty inevitable
JackieB52
26th Jun 2020
9
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Our government needs to toughen up!! Speaking to my son in Germany who lives close to the region where there has been another breakout, was telling me of the reaction of local government and authorities and had it fully locked down and under control. We need to get tougher, there were ministers on TV news this morning 'with phrases like"we know the virus is less easily transmitted in the open air' NOT USEFUL!! Almost giving a green light for it all to continue!!! Aaaarrrgghh!! Am so angry!! We need good strict rules, and STRONG Government to enforce it!!!!
mdan2011
26th Jun 2020
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I agree with you Jackie.
caroleannetroops
26th Jun 2020
5
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What with these people, the demonstrators, the football fans and the rioters it is not if we have a second, and much worse wave, it's when.
Even before this only half the population seemed to be abiding by the rules.
123Siobhan
26th Jun 2020
6
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Are the majority of these people off work and being paid to stay at home to stop the virus spreading. I think they will be. You would never get this many people on a beach in the middle of the week normally. But seeing as the people giving the advice do not stick to it themselves can they expect the masses that are south of Watnall Gap to do the same. It makes me ashamed to be English
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I also think things reopening are to fast I know the economy has to be kick started.
But the scenes on the beaches were scary no social distancing at all . We have all made sacrifices in lockdown so let’s not undo all the hard work. We all want to get back to a normal life . If people take no notice of requests to stay away from the beaches then they have to be closed to safe guard us all.
MelanieP6
26th Jun 2020
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Very selfish and irresponsible people. Not only endangering others, not even bothering to clear up their litter. Am I surprised? No, that is the mentality of so much of this country's population now - let someone else do the clearing up. I don't know why they were allowed to amass in such numbers - why weren't they arrested and charged? Why weren't they being stopped from entering the beach once a certain number had been reached?
Sally-Anne
26th Jun 2020
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As someone who's been working all the time as a key worker, not seeing my Mum who broke her leg in April, not seeing my 3 year old goddaughter who hugs the phone when I call, I get really cross with these people.
JackieB8
26th Jun 2020
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I am speechless at the stupidity of some people. Even if they aren't concerned about us the jo public, what about their families. It saddens and angers me that we gave been through so much and the key workers must feel worthless.
AlanB792
26th Jun 2020
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Time to get the children back to school, and more people back to work, with the Covid numbers falling people have a false sense of security and are no longer obeying the guidelines, they have too much time on their hands so get them occupied by doing something constructive like going back to work.
Danno1
26th Jun 2020
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Alan I have said this myself. Surely people going back to work and children going back to school will have social distancing in place. Much safer than allowing thousands of people in one place to spread the virus again.
Sheila H
26th Jun 2020
11
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Obviously these people are selfish or stupid. If they cannot observe social distancing, we need to close beaches and parks again. It’s too soon
LorraineC92
26th Jun 2020
10
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People cannot do as they are told to do so it’s time we took a stand and CLOSED ALL of our beachesI have been in lockdown now since the beginning of March and received a letter off government that I have to stay in lockdown till end of July to be reviewed 1st August so it gets me so mad when these idiots are going around like normal and at the end of the day it’s people like us that will pay the ultimate price
SuzieT3
26th Jun 2020
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I keep saying the economy must be allowed to get up and running again. Quite apart from anything else, the government need the income from our taxes to pay for all the extras they've been paying out, on top of usual payments of benefits. I also say that, at some point (around 14 weeks ago!) that people must also take responsibility for their own actions. They complain about living in a nanny state, then act like a bunch of unruly toddlers! I feel sorry for Boris Johnson, the poor man can't get it right for being wrong for someone or other!
MelanieP6
26th Jun 2020
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So true Suzie. I couldn't agree more. But people taking responsibility for their own actions went out the window years ago, probably round about the time credit cards became widely available - people no longer needed to save up for things so they became irresponsible and selfish.
Lionel
26th Jun 2020
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I hadn't ever made that link, MelanieP. Thank you, it explains quite a few things.
ChristineJ84
26th Jun 2020
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The irresponsible few are spoiling the chances of us coming out of this pandemic without a second spike of cases. Those that have followed the guidelines will unfortunately be the ones to suffer.
Danno1
26th Jun 2020
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Sadly Christine it is no longer the irresponsible few, look at the numbers involved also has anyone noticed social distancing no longer occurs in supermarkets. I think it is the majority of people ignoring the rules now
PeterThePorter
26th Jun 2020
4
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Presumably, if and when the second wave hits us, there will be another government intervention. The first has/will cost hundreds of billions of pounds. A second would cost a great deal. Mygreat grandchildren will benpaying off the debt.
eric1
26th Jun 2020
21
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I feel without a doubt that the Government has lost control, the relaxation of the coronavirus rules have happened far too quickly, too many places opened at once. I have been in lockdown now for over 100 days, these people gathering on beaches or gathering to celebrate football are so selfish. the football authorities may as well have allowed the crowds into the stadium to watch the match.
I support BLM but this too has now gone too far, a lot of the youngsters protesting need to learn their history, it has now got so bad that we are being prejudiced against.
As soon as Boris announced all those changes on Tuesday half the country knew we were heading for trouble, but as usual, money is all that matters in the UK, trouble is that those who need it haven't got it.
So, I agree, yes we are heading for a big fall, we have yet to get over the fall out of this pandemic including heavy unemployment and inevitable increases in tax etc.
SarahS47
26th Jun 2020
7
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DaveT51
26th Jun 2020
11
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It's more the lack of common sense of these morons that the beaches are like they are. The guidance is clear, it's the idiots that ignore it that's the problem.
spencer1
26th Jun 2020
6
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i could,nt agree with you more i,m in my 80s and have followed the rules for my safety but ive seen older people braking them .
AlanB792
26th Jun 2020
5
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Without the money being generated there will be no money to pay benefits or wages for people who have been furloughed, no money for hospitals or medicines, the government can’t keep borrowing for ever, at some point we’re going to have to pay it back.
MrsPat
27th Jun 2020
1
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I agree-they have lost control-we are too soft and it is a system which is built on selfishness rather than a "family" structure like the Japanese or Koreans for example.
Retiredyorkie
26th Jun 2020
12
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Think its time that as Victoria$5 said get people back to work

If they are willing to risk going to the beaches and crowding together, then its time to realise that this shut down is not one long holiday.
SueH798
26th Jun 2020
6
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The like Furlough as they are getting the money for staying at home.. just typical of this part of our society....
BrendaG9
26th Jun 2020
4
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That should be stopped now I think.It has been abused by too many,the same way any help the government gives. Watch the kids being allowed to go to school then. There are too many moaners and ignorant people in this country.
VictoriaS5
26th Jun 2020
15
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The difference between the Costa del Sol beaches and Brighton and Bournemouth yesterday was staggering. The Spanish beaches were regularly patrolled and under control. That is not happening here - result chaos. The simple answer is to get people back to work and children back to school, be respectful, aware and accept the changes.
swaneldo
26th Jun 2020
13
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Sadly - that ship has sailed! Throughout, I've used life skills and common sense to guide me on what I feel I should and shouldn't be doing. I don't need someone telling me there's an invisible killer on the loose and I need to be careful - that's a given to anyone who has a braincell still working.
BrendaG9
26th Jun 2020
4
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Well said but I think brain cells are in short supply with a lot of the people! There are too many conspiracy theories going around.This is all a hoax don’t you know but Sod’s law none of those idiots are going to get it! Too many can’t think for themselves anymore.
Bald123
26th Jun 2020
10
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I get it for the youngsters especially-its summer it's hot and they have had enough. The good thing is the virus doesn't seem to affect them much which is brilliant. My only worry is they will spead it to us older folk. We were young once, mind you it was 40 years ago for me and thank goodness this virus was not around in the 1970s as we did not have the technology to defeat it then.
Nannypink
26th Jun 2020
12
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A lot of this has been caused b the reporting of the Downing Street briefings by the main stream media. They should have only been showing what was actually said not tweaking it and/or bringing in other so called experts to put their spin on it, usually politically biased
Bald123
26th Jun 2020
9
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I do agree the media are shockers but then the government have had mixed and confusing messages e.g. Cummings fiasco and also the stay alert!...whatever did that mean as it sounded like something from the war.
Nannypink
26th Jun 2020
8
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In my humble opinion, the briefings made complete sense. I only watched them up until the press questions
BrendaG9
26th Jun 2020
4
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I signed up for the daily email from the government! I have not seen or listened to any news programs for months.
Nannypink
26th Jun 2020
2
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Yes I also signed up to the daily email to avoid the news at all costs
Munsterlander
26th Jun 2020
9
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I think we need to remember Corporal Jones from Dads Army-DONT PANIC! Its a time for keeping calm but the big crowds will spread tyhe virus if there is no social distancing. Simples.....
Bald123
26th Jun 2020
6
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Good point-Stay Alert was like a dads Army WW2 slogan-very vague.
Danno1
26th Jun 2020
3
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No I think Corporal Frazer was right we're all doomed

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