Do you think we’re facing chaos now we’re leaving the EU?

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After months of debate, scaremongering, polls and confusion the decision has been made for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union.

An estimated 46,499,537 people were entitled to take part in the vote and around 72% turned out – a record number for a UK poll, and it was dubbed the biggest decision the country have taken for a generation.

It was only the third nationwide referendum in UK history and comes after a four-month battle for votes between the Leave and Remain campaigns.

This topic has been top of the agenda since 20th February when David Cameron announced a referendum and now our choice has been made.

So how do you feel? Is the outcome what you wanted? Do you think we’re facing chaos now we’re leaving the EU? Are you happy with the result? Do you feel relieved it is over? Do you think David Cameron was right to call the Referendum in the first place?

UPDATE AT 08:15 BST:

How do you feel now that David Cameron has resigned as Prime Minister?

Do you think we’re facing chaos now we’re leaving the EU?

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Happy cruiser
12 hours ago
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Three weeks or so ago I watched an interview with a member of the EU who is responsible for trying to balance the books.

Asked what the EU would do as our contribution will be less than expected due to the fall in the pound he said it will have to be managed somehow, when pressed further by the interviewer he said it is unfair for the other 27 countries to have to pay more because of our decision to leave the EU which triggered the fall. He said they wouldn't be very happy as it had resulted in 2 billion shortfall which was our fault.

Then stated that perhaps the UK should make up the shortfall.

The interviewer said, but the other year when our economy was doing really well we had to pay an additional 1.9 billion to the EU. To which he replied this is only fair!

I am sure he was making mischief as he was saying these things with a twinkle in his eye, but confirms to me the EU think they have a never ending supply of money all the time we are a member.
brigill
27th Nov 2016
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We have no reason to believe the scaremongers.we traded with the rest of the world for a very very long time and they want to trade with us now.Several members of the European market are still desperate to trade with us.We never joined to be run by a bunch of unelected beaurocrats who have made theirselves very wealthy and powerful and ignore the wishes of a lot of people
Roof Top Crow
29th Nov 2016
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Who are these countries that are desperate to to trade with us. ?
Superman
27th Nov 2016
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Couldn't see the benefits of leaving, even more convinced we should have remained, whole thing is a mess, how can any government.know what to do when the who!e country has so much debt!!!
leslieross
25th Nov 2016
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Theresa May needs to stop talking and start doing something. That's what Cameron did: talk, talk, talk. She needs to take action and act like a leader, not a follower. Britain no longer needs 'permission' to act.
Roof Top Crow
29th Nov 2016
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Can you tell us what you think she should do.
Perky
14th Nov 2016
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Could never see advantages but I am sure there were
Yanky03
12th Nov 2016
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we have been there before and it was ok then whats the problem
Roof Top Crow
4th Nov 2016
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The perceived loss of our Sovereignty was one of the primary reasons that many people voted “Leave” on 23rd June. Yesterday we all witnessed British Law being applied by British Judges in a British Court.British Sovereignty working as it should.
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The ruling made in the High Court was a legal opinion, not a political decision. And yet the red top newspapers are not applauding this demonstration of Sovereignty. They are in fact headlining quite the reverse. The Daily Mail, The Express, and The Sun are choosing to mislead their readers by claiming the ruling was political.
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It seems that the red top newspapers have no hesitation in being hypocritical, no hesitation in spreading lies, untruths and anxiety to sell newspapers.
Seniorman
1st Nov 2016
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Britain has one of the best economies in the world and will prosper away from the inefficient, undemocratic EU.
There will be no problems obtaining good trading arrangements with Europe as we are one of their big customers. They need us as much as we need them.
We will be a sovereign nation once again and will not be subjected to laws and petty regulations imposed on this independent country.
We have everything good to look forward to.
Inevitably there will be disturbance to the economy as we go through the change period of uncertainty but it will be worth it.
Wilf
1st Nov 2016
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I did not vote for Brexit but think you are right. There will be upheavals but we will get back on track. We forget we are no 5 economy globally and London is a financial powerhouse
LittleMinx
31st Oct 2016
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After two world wars which killed millions, left behind mayhem, broken families, tortured souls and trauma felt today by the old soldiers who survived. Maybe this is the reason they voted to get out of the EU. Probably had something to do with never again having to be under the Jackboot.

The EU beginnings:
Together , they planned to control Europe taking a different route, Brussels EU.
An IG Farben letter specifies a common European currency, common European law, and even a European court system – all of that under the control of the Nazi/IG Farben coalition.
Hans Globke had been co-author of the Nuremberg racial laws and had also been responsible for writing the new laws of the Greater European “Reich” in the countries occupied by the Nazis during World War II.

The records of the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal document that Bayer, BASF and Hoechst gave more than 80 million Reichsmark to the Nazis and their sub-organizations. In return for this “investment” IG Farben ( made Zyclon B for the extermination of the Jews ) took over the chemical, pharmaceutical and petrochemical industries in the countries occupied during WWII with the ultimate goal to create and dominate a “European Market” form Lisbon to Sofia.

Walter Hallstein (17 November 1901 – 29 March 1982) was a German academic, diplomat, and politician. He was the first president of the Commission of the European Economic Community and one of the founding fathers of the European Union.

From the beginning, one of the main financiers of the “Brussels EU” was the West German Government. On April 24, 1964, the key architects of the “Brussels EU” – all of them active members of the IG Farben/Nazi coalition during WWII – met at the “Brussels EU” headquarters to stake their claims on the future of the European continent. Apparently they were so sure about their success to take control over Europe in their 3rd attempt, via the “Brussels EU”.

EU Commission President Walter Hallstein – the Architect of the “Brussels EU”
German Chancellor Ludwig Erhard
Ludger Westrick, Head of the German Chancellery
Karl Carstens, German Secretary of State for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Karl-Günther von Hase, Head of the Press and Information Service of the German government

Brexit means Brexit.
Roof Top Crow
4th Nov 2016
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Linking the thoughts and plans of middle ranking Third Reich (1943-45) politicians to the 23rd June 2016 referendum is stretching your argument too far. If you want to look back to the 40s a more valid starting point would be the end of the Second World War in 1945. A war in which over 70 million people died.

As the war came to an end the world’s politicians were discussing a future where a war on this scale would never happen again. Amongst those politicians was Winston Churchill. Churchill was openly expressing an opinion that the only way to prevent another war in Europe and to eliminate the European ills of nationalism and war-mongering was the creation of an open border United States of Europe. It is on record, that in a speech in Zurich in 1946, he publically stated that opinion.

70 years later we seem to be entering a period when closed borders, concrete walls, barbed wire fences and the prevention of freedom of movement are being planned as the way forward for society. The plans for walls, borders and the prevention of freedom of movement are being driven by the rise in separatism, which at its core wants to separate certain groups of people on the basis of ethnicity, religion or gender.

Common sense tells me that that the best way to minimize the likelihood of war is to remove land borders and trade borders. The removal of borders helps do away with inequalities, reduces unemployment and most importantly reduces the risk of land wars and trade wars which history tells us inevitably lead to military wars.
Wilf
4th Nov 2016
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I think the problem in removing all borders you would get an Osmosis effect of people migrating to rich countries which would have major issues and then a huge backlash-look at places like France and the rise of Trump in the USA wanting to kick out all immigrants
Roof Top Crow
7th Nov 2016
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The thing about osmosis is that it works both ways. Leaving the EU will almost certainly prevent many of the world's brightest and the best from coming to the UK. But it will also prevent our brightest and best from gaining skills and experience by working overseas and then bringing those skills back home.

A more immediate reality. The collapse of sterling has been good for exporters but it is causing a problem in the in the NHS, Agriculture, Construction and service industries. Employees who are not UK citizens and working here legally have seen their savings reduce in value by 20% and it is costing them 20% more to send money back to their country of birth.

In these sectors, employers are experiencing a high rate of resignations from employees who are not UK citizens. Anecdotal evidence is that they are returning home or taking jobs in Holland and Germany etc. To make matters worse the number of job applications from people who are not UK citizens has fallen to an all-time low.

It would be ironic if the “Leave Campaign” call for a massive reduction in immigration into the UK was achieved by simply collapsing the value of Sterling. And of course, with that reduction in immigration the NHS, Agriculture, Construction and all the service industries would go into meltdown and with it the whole of our economy.

What is it that they say, oh yes “Be careful what you wish for”
Wilf
7th Nov 2016
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I do not think we will get a meltdown its a bit dramatic especially as the Bank of England predicts the economy will pick up next year. I did not vote to leave and still do not think it is a good idea. The problem is politicians do not listen to the voters who said cut down on immigration and we do not want a federal superstate.
Roof Top Crow
30th Oct 2016
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There are approximately 48 million people who are eligible to vote in the UK.On 23 June 2016, the following happened.

17,410,742 voted to leave (48.1%)
16,141,241 voted to stay (51.9%)

Even if you spilt the non-voters equally between leave and remain you still have a situation where just over 48% of the population do not want the changes that leaving the EU will bring to all of us.

Ignoring what 48% of the population wants for our society is going to give any government a lot of problems.
Wilf
30th Oct 2016
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Yes but thats the same issue in many votes in democracies look at when Bush won the Presidency in 2000 he only got in on a few hundred votes in Florida...for a country of then about 300 million!!!!
Roof Top Crow
31st Oct 2016
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My point is simply to say that the negotiations that will take place as we leave the EU must take into account the views of the 48% of the voting population who did not vote to leave the EU.
Wilf
31st Oct 2016
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yes I totally agree with you on that case but we just need to get on with this and stop the uncertainty. the problem in the UK is we do not make decisions-look at the Chinese they just get on with decisions
Speeednet
28th Oct 2016
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The BBC and other EU shills would have you believe that, and if they continue to talk the country down. Together with the traitorous MPs looking towards the EU gravy train doing all they can to ignore the will will of the people, it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I so wish Theresa May would call a snap election, and that way the people may just get an MP that does what we want them to do, and not just to further their own interests.
Roof Top Crow
13th Oct 2016
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Chaos
Yesterday I watched Parliamentary Question Time on TV and listened to the political news on the radio. Early this morning I spent a short time browsing today's newspapers.

A few moments ago I opened an old Collins Dictionary and looked for the definition of chaos. It said; complete disorder; utter confusion.

The question being asked in this forum is as follows.
Do you think we’re facing chaos now we’re leaving the EU?

I think we can all agree that the UK is now in a state of chaos following the vote on 23rd June 2016
LittleMinx
18th Oct 2016
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According to Chaos Theory; No political system can ever be perfect, because to bring about order there always has to be an element of chaos.
It remains to be seen just how synergy-oriented European leaders will be in months ahead. Edward Lorenz’s work with chaos theory and “sensitive dependence on initial conditions” is often referred to as the “Butterfly Effect” based on his question, “If a butterfly flaps its wings in Brazil will it create a tornado in Texas?”

Britain has now flapped its wings.

“Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…”
(Winston Churchill House of Commons, 11 November 1947)
Roof Top Crow
18th Oct 2016
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Thymeheals
17th Oct 2016
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Revolution takes time to settle in. Look long term, instead of at today. The vote was a Democratic one, its time those who don't agree with it got over the decision, and started to work with it.
Roof Top Crow
17th Oct 2016
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This was not a revolution. A revolution is when there is a forcible overthrow of a national government. We did not get that.
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What we did get is a new PM leading government with a small majority that is split between remain in the EU and leave the EU.
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Democracy in the UK is a long established process where UK citizens vote to have their opinions and values represented by a member of parliament. The UK does not have a history or process where decisions are made by referendum.
The 23rd of June 2016 was a “first past the post” preference vote by individual members of society. It has not been passed into law by parliament.
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However, the current government has decided to try and put in place the vague fantasies that the leave campaigners put forward. The problem now is that the civil service does not have the systems to put these vague fantasies into place. So getting on with anything is just not possible.
LittleMinx
16th Oct 2016
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Roof Top Crow
16th Oct 2016
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I assume you are not an all-girl band, a masonic historian or a film production company. That being the case can you move your statement forward a bit and tell us how and when order and direction will emerge from this chaos.
LittleMinx
17th Oct 2016
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There will be order Roof Top Crow. There has to be.
How is quite another question.
LittleMinx
17th Oct 2016
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Assuming you are replying to my post Roof Top Crow?, nope! not an all-girl band, or the other two.
I am watching and waiting to see which direction this world chaos,Political chaos and the chaos which will be caused by the imminent collapse of Deutsche Bank will take. Like dominoes..... crash!
Of course Brexit will be blamed.
I wait with bated breath to see what new laws and restrictions will emerge from this. Maybe it is a cunning plan to break down the old order, and bring in A New Order that Politicians world wide are fixated on?. Or is it all just the folly of feckless leaders.
Speeednet
28th Oct 2016
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Wrong again crow, only today the financial giant that is Deutsch Bank has gone to the EU with a begging bowl expecting the EU taxpayer to get them out of the mess that Merkel has got them into. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/725839/Deutsche-Bank-demands-133-billion-bail-out-from-EU-taxpayers
Roof Top Crow
17th Oct 2016
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Not so sure that Deutsche Bank will collapse.
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I think the world is now waiting on the outcome of elections in the USA. If Trump is successful then confidence in the dollar will collapse and the economy of China and the Western World will be in real trouble.
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The UK represents less than 1% of the world population. In practice, our machinations regarding Brexit mean very little to the rest of the world.
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The folly of feckless leaders. You are probably correct.
Roof Top Crow
3rd Oct 2016
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Conference Season
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We heard promises and commitments at the Labour Party conference. The promise of jobs for the post-industrial areas of the UK is totally unrealistic. Industries that create mass employment have gone to the low-cost areas of the world and will not be coming back. Talk of commitment to massive investment in infrastructure cannot be backed up with details of where the money will come from. It was admitted by a Labour party spokesman that they have not talked any lenders in Europe or anywhere else in the world.
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We are starting to hear promises and commitments at the Conservative Party conference. Yesterday it was a promise that the 27 EU countries will give us a better trade deal than they have between themselves. No explanation of why 455 million people in the trading club of 27 countries would give the one country of 65 million that now wants to leave the trading club a better deal than they have between themselves. A team of 27 against a team of 1; just ask yourselves who is the favourite to come out as the winner.
Roof Top Crow
2nd Oct 2016
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Here in the UK, we already know that the government will be employing thousands and thousands of new civil servants to sort out our departure from the EU. And once we have left they will need even more civil servants to cover the jobs that would have been done by the EU and to negotiate trade deals with the remaining 27 countries in the EU and rest of the world.
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Multiply that by the other 27 countries also withdrawing from EU membership and it looks like an admin and social nightmare.
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Or maybe not, it might be that an implosion of the kind you visualise would resolve the European unemployment problem. It would create millions and millions of new civil servant jobs all over the Europe. Initially to negotiate the withdrawal from the EU and then to negotiate trade deals with all the other 27 countries and the rest of the world.
nettap
30th Sep 2016
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I voted "leave", for two reasons:- I consider the EU is imploding and would drag us down with it. The EU is not democratic.

I believe that eventually the wealthy northern countries will 'relegate' the less wealthy south, thus making a two tier EU.

Before this happens Germany will probably re-instate the DM for international trade only, which will lead to the demise of the EU.
Capricorn
29th Sep 2016
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I am concerned that our new PM , unlike Maggie Thatcher, will not be able to stand up to the EU. As a Home Secretary she was not very effective and is not eager to set a date to start negotiations . Cameron tried and failed to get any success , in fact he was talked into putting
millions into the kitty to pay Turkey to take in immigrants from Greece
which was overloaded. Cameron and Osborne even lent 1 million Euros to the EU Bank !!!

It will need a very knowledgeable Team to negotiate with the EU , Merkel andJuncker will not want to lose their top contributor to the EU.

I sincerely hope Britain Leaves ....in factI wouldn't be surprised to see the EU fall apart .
Wilf
29th Sep 2016
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the only country that is really keeping it together is Germany as its an economic powerhouse. A lot of the other countries have severe economic issues
Capricorn
29th Sep 2016
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Hi Wilf, Germany has 1.5 million immigrants and having a lot of trouble with the boy immigrants molesting the girls. Sweden , who went out of their way to make their immigrants welcome has the same problem.

IInitially Merkel took in so many to help with the labour needed in
Germany, that is not the case any more. Several Members of the EU have not made any plans to take in migrants or donate to the kitty.

Merkel and Juncker will not make it easy for Britain to leave and May will need to have a very strong negotiating team, plus no interference from big Business , you are right the small Countries
are finding it hard to cope .....is there any Country that has a healthybank balance???
Wilf
29th Sep 2016
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In Europe Norway and Switzerland are the only 2 with tiny Luxemberg! The PIGS down south are all in a mess. France is and we seem to be ok at the moment
nettap
30th Sep 2016
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Wilf - I don't understand your point, as Luxembourg is an EU member.
AlexanderG2
13th Sep 2016
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YES, thanks to all these numpties who voted to leave the EU we British are going to be in for ever more. Manufacturing companies have to dig deep to find new business and will be competing with all the rubbish countries who will undercut our every move.
The farming community will not receive the subsidies they need to keep going.
The man in the street will need bigger pockets to pay for increased prices for everything to do with every days .
peaches2
12th Sep 2016
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I think it will take a while to get back on track, but we can now be our country again make choices without Europe telling us
Roof Top Crow
7th Sep 2016
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On 23rd June 2016 17.4 million people or 26.9 % of the UK population voted to leave the EU. Voting to leave the EU has triggered a constitutional change and commenced financial changes that will affect all 65 million UK citizens.
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Incredibly the decision by 26.9 % of the population to vote “leave” was not based on information about what would happen to the UK if we left the EU. This was simply because the Leave party did not have any information to give us.
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The leaders of the Leave party knew full well that voting “leave” would trigger a change in the constitution and a vote to leave the EU would present a fundamental risk to the financial future of the UK. But the leaders of the Leave party had not given a moment's thought to how leaving the EU would be managed.
They had not given any thought to who would carry out this work or what the consequences would be if we voted to leave the EU.
I think we can describe this lack of thought and planning by the Leave party as negligent and totally irresponsible.
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At the end of the Second World War, the UK was destitute and remained that way until we joined what is now called the EU. Since joining the EU the United Kingdom has become the 2nd wealthiest country in EU membership and the 5th wealthiest country in the world. This wealth has created political stability, social stability in a society where 13 % of the population was born overseas, health care for the whole nation, education for the whole country and a standard of living that up until now has been the envy of most of the rest of the world.
Much of this wealth has come from our long-term trading relationships with the EU, Japan, the USA and others. In the past week, all three said much the same thing “we respect your vote on 23rd June but do not expect to have the same agreement when it comes to renegotiation”
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We all know that the UK is far from perfect. We all know that we need to keep trying to make it better, but compared with the rest of the world, the UK had it just about right. But for 26.9 % of the population, this was not enough and they voted to risk most of what the UK had worked so hard to achieve in the last 50 years and they have asked the government to start all over again.
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So in starting all over again we should consider what has happened so far.

“Brexit means Brexit” is meaningless. We might as well say “Walking means Walking” or “Gardening means Gardening”.
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The G20 meeting produced some negative statements from our soon to be ex-business partners.
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The PM announced that points-based immigration system that the Leave party and Farage had based so much of their baseless and fatuous argument upon was not going to be used.
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David Davis the Brexit Minister stood at the dispatch box and said absolutely nothing. Later in the day, he had his knuckles rapped by the PM for going off message about our future relationship with the EU.
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Australia made it very very clear they will not negotiate with the UK until we leave the EU.
AlexanderG2
13th Sep 2016
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Wilf
7th Sep 2016
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Yes all looking a bit woolly now! I suspect we will leave the EU but with a lot of our trade agreements intact...a very watered down immigration policy and really not much changed at all! Bit of a waste of time for everyone really!
davehughes
4th Sep 2016
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I voted to leave. I have thought long and hard as to whether this was right or wrong but am still convinced that we as a nation are better off without the dictats of a body of un-elected, uncontrollable, openly federalist beaurocrats.
The comments made in this debate more often than relate to how our economy will be affected. While this is important (and incidentally trade is now looking up) what is more important in my view is the British way of life. We are an island nation (close to Europe but not really of it or its values) and that has always been our strength. We have the strength, expertise, and hopefully the will to succeed.
Capricorn
13th Aug 2016
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I think it will need good leadership to see us through the changeover ......we haven't got that.!! Already the Minister responsible is saying what needs to be done with the 8 BILLION
rebate from the EU. No mention of the NHS which needs a good overhaul and investment , otherwise we will lose all the dedicated Doctors and Nurses to Private Companies.
nape
5th Aug 2016
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first we are not paying all that money to the E U
second we can control our boarders which we could not do before, we managed before we joined the E U the people that wanted us to stay in is our M Ps
steve263
16th Jul 2016
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wiccan-woman said correctly that the due process by where parliament has to vote on the Brexit seems to have been forgotten. Why has the legal process stopped? The RF was not binding legally, and although if parliament does vote for it, (and that is the most likely outcome) then at least we can exit legally and not just pushed out by a process that nearly half the country did not vote for.
123Siobhan
15th Jul 2016
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If I believed in a higher being I would be asking for his help now. i hope I am around in 5 years time so I can say 'told you so' to the exit'ers.
Roof Top Crow
19th Jul 2016
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In science and research the damage has already started.
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Sterling against the Euro and the Dollar.

The collapse in value of sterling against the Euro and the Dollar has lead to a bonanza for the investment industry based outside of the sterling area. They are doing two things:

1. Buying UK businesses at a massive discount. ARM Holdings are a very good example of a UK company being bought at a discount.
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2. Buying shares at a massive discount to true value. Then as the sterling recovers they will sell the shares, take the profit, and move it out of UK jurisdiction.

You will not have to wait 5 years.
Wiccan-woman
15th Jul 2016
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How can we purport to be a multicultural, inclusive and progressive outward looking internationalist society if we adopt an isolationist, inward looking parochial attitude driven by reactionary knee jerk nationalistic xenophobia and narrow minded bigotry.
I did not choose this, these are not standards or principles I want to live by. I have the right to choose and not to be railroaded by a government for whom I did not vote and a faction of society with whom I have absolutely no desire to be associated.
What has happened to the legal democratic process under which this decision is required to be considered? Why has parliament abandoned it’s obligation to parliamentary due process to take under consideration the advisory opinion offered by the outcome of this referendum in favour of the apparent “done deal” we are all being asked to swallow?
David Cameron may well have felt that he was defeated and so should resign, however I would argue that as the new PM, Teresa May has a moral, constitutional and parliamentary duty to vigorously pursue due process to the letter.
The debate must continue and the opinion garnered from the referendum taken into consideration in the context of the political and socio-economic issues. It is becoming increasingly clear, almost a month on, that the effect of a Brexit is and will continue to have an enormously negative impact on the future of this country. Given the reaction of the rest of the EU partners, including the call from some, in light our referendum, for widespread reform of the EU organisation. It would surely be more responsible to consider being part of that objective than to simply leave.

I agree there are huge issues in terms of EU bureaucracy and their obscenely flagrant profligacy; this runaway gravy-train needs to be derailed in favour of transparency, accountability and efficiency.

In a world where corruption, greed,terror and hatred are causing our fragile planet to implode, we have the opportunity to be part of a coalition of nations which stand for something altogether more worthy, an altruism that is a beacon of cooperation and inclusion, an example of all that is true, honest, good and safe, a means of paying it forward and creating a sustainable future for our children & grandchildren.
I have two children whom I have brought up to be inclusive, open minded, unbiased, fair and thoughtful in every aspect of life. I have brought them up with the notion that they have rights and options to live, work and study anywhere in Europe. At 16 & 17 (18 in a month), when they are just starting out in their adult lives all those options are suddenly being withdrawn and they have no voice to effect change for themselves and given that this is a one off choice, no option to revisit this decision in the future . They are European by birthright, they have the right to choose.

I’m a Scottish Spaniard living in England, I am European. I have the right to choose and I believe we are better together.
Fruitcake13
20th Aug 2016
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I'm a bit late in catching up with what you've said here, Wiccan-woman, but I couldn't agree more. The deed is done now, and I'm guessing you're as devastated as I am by the 'Out' result.
Wilf
15th Jul 2016
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I agree we are much better together and I voted to remain in. My view is that the top echelons of the Eu are so arrogant and bureaucratic that they are blind to what the Brits wanted. All most people in the UK were saying was limit immigration to a manageable proportion-say 100,000 net incoming per annum not 320,000. The UK has gone from 52-65 million in a generation. The other features of the EU are all excellent-trade- finance etc. I doubt if people like Junker have ever had a normal job if they had and knew what normal folk wanted they would have had a compromise
Twinkletoes1
14th Jul 2016
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The deed is done, and done in a democratic way.

Now we have to trust that those who have been handed the reigns of political power, will get on with the job of dealing with a new and exciting Britain.

All the childish whining, backstabbing, sulking and scaremongering in the world will not change the fact that we will dust ourselves off and forge ahead.

Hundreds of thousands of men and women died for this country and all of us who are here today so that we might live without being bullied into submission when the going gets tough. Let us stand behind those who have been given the task of leading us forward to a "better Britain".
parsnip54
7th Aug 2016
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Well put twinkletoes1. The decision has been made by the people. Those against the decision seem to have personal financial reasons for staying in Europe, but really, do you honestly believe Europe will stop trading with us? Course they won't as they have to much to lose too. Instead of all this bickering as twinkletoes says, let get behind Britain Plc and make it Great Britain Plc.
viking
8th Jul 2016
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Don't worry Hattie, if the Crow had watched Paxo interview certain members of the EEC brigade, he would have jumped off his rooftop pretty quickly, and would stop crowing about the wonders of that nest of vipers.
JohnHerb
11th Jul 2016
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I think the Eu is a bureaucratic mess but they must be laughing at UK PLC. What a joke in the last 2 weeks. We vote for Brexit with Boris and Gove. They quit. Farage quits as he has "done his bit"...ie ruined the country. May becomes the PM and nothing changes-oh yes it does the economy is ruined and the £ has fallen through the floor. I can see a £1 to $1 soon!
Roof Top Crow
7th Jul 2016
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Just when we thought the jingoistic nonsense of the referendum was behind us, we now have Andrea Leadsom. She said this today:

“Let us unite and be prosperous”
Andrea, that is what we have at the moment, we are prosperous and united with 500 million people in the EU.

“We want tariff-free trade agreements with the EU”
Andrea, we already have that. Because of you, we are now having to renegotiate this for the future well-being of the UK.

“We can be the greatest nation on earth”
Andrea that was a belief in the 18th century when Britain ruled the waves and we had an Empire.
That time has passed and the world has moved on. We are already a major influence in the world but with 0.88% of the world population, these words are just an empty promise.

Boris would describe Andreas words as “piffle”
Wilf
17th Jul 2016
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I must say that Andrea Leadsom seemed like an intelligent human when she was with Boris prior to Brexit but has been unmasked as a baffoon
Lionel
8th Jul 2016
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Ah, Roof Top, as a well experienced farmer I smell the BS, even before clicking on this page.

Let's, for a moment, look at your post. You reference five hundred million. It was three hundred and forty seven million people when we joined. We turned our backs on a Commonwealth of two billion plus people who wanted our goods and services, and could pay for them, for a measly three hundred odd million who had no need of us or our output. I'm not the business man,but you are. Which market would you choose?

You think we are united and prosperous within Europe? Get the shades off man, we remain the poor relation. Tell me otherwise, but I need some facts.

Roof top, a man much wiser than you or I, but of my blood, said, what comes around goes around. Solomon, a great wise man. We were great and we will be great again, in terms, but never in the EU!

Roof Top, this is the start of something great. We both may have enough life left to see it. But will you admit, sorry chaps, I got it wrong? Come on here and eat humble pie? I think you will have that courage, but only because I've come to respect you.

Don't disappoint me, now!
JohnHerb
11th Jul 2016
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I hate to say it but Brexit is turning politically into a bigger mess than I thought it would. Boris and Gove were supposed to lead it. They have gone and now Leadsom has quit (what a great leader she would have made-not!) and we have May who didn't even want Brexit? confused.com......
Lionel
11th Jul 2016
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JohnHerb, apparently you replied to my last post. There was a notification but the reply isn't visible. That's not the first time this has happened.
Lionel
11th Jul 2016
3
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Yes it is a mess, John Herb, but what we're seeing in both parties is the fruition of many years of division, unrequited rivalries and fear mongering. Brett was but the catalyst and I think it's well past time seething mass which is Westminster politics was sorted out.

Solomon, a man who presided over extraordinary and uncertain times wrote: there is a time to tear down and a time to upbuild.

I could easily believe this time is the former.
Lionel
11th Jul 2016
4
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Wilf, the Wisdom of Solomon has stood the test of time, 3000 years.

Yes, I agree, all revolutions are shambles it's of their very nature.

My fear for a very long time, is that this revolution will quickly devolve to the streets. I think people feel they have been suppressed, ignored or overidden for so long they will take the opportunity to revolt. It's happened in other countries with disastrous. Once started it probably would be unstoppable, well, at least until the anger and venom has been vented.

If we must have change to our very roots, let's do it the Czech way, the Velvet Revolution. Not a drop of blood was shed.

I was in that country short after the Velvet Revolution, just after Vaclav Havel had been installed as President. Not at all like Hungary in 1956 or Prague in 1968.

Best of all would be no revolution but as one voice I doubt there's much I could do about it.
Wilf
11th Jul 2016
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That is a very interesting quote Lionel-I think we ae going through a "revolution". Will be interesting to look back 30 years.....Maybe all revolutions are a "shambles"
Roof Top Crow
11th Jul 2016
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I do not know what it is you want me to apologise for.

The question was " Do you think we’re facing chaos now we’re leaving the EU"

The signs of this chaos are already there. In politics we have no leader, business has stopped investing, in the city, there are massive winners and losers, these are all very clear signs of instability and chaos.

You just have to look at the political commentators on the TV channels and in the press. They are all telling us we are living in extraordinary and uncertain times.

We are already in chaos.
Hattie
6th Jul 2016
5
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I would still like a Remain voter to give me a convincing reason to hand over, our Legal System, and 100's of pages of legislation for border control, consumer affairs, employment, Human Rights etc, etc, etc.

R.T.C. When we entered EU none of the above was mentioned.
Actually, last night i watched 'Paxman in Brussels' on Utube now, that is really, really, scary, maybe some younger people should watch it.
Wilf
6th Jul 2016
2
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At the end of the day I think it was about immigration. All the EU had to do was to have a sensible policy for the UK and we would still be in-its that simple but trying to get 28 countries to agree to anything is a nightmare
latin
16th Jul 2016
6
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Your simplistic view of the corrupt EU is wrong!
People wanted out because the EU leaders are unelected undemocratic control freaks, who want and are creating a Russian style Politburo behind our back!
Its domination via the back door!Read up on it,its all out there.
Also remember Merkel herself saying Multiculturalism does not work!!that is rich coming from her and its too little too late!
Wilf
16th Jul 2016
2
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Yes but 50% of the Uk votes Labour and we have a Tory Government so you could argue the Tories are unelected by them but they still control the country and their lives.
viking
6th Jul 2016
6
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I agree with Hattie, my grandaughter who is shortly graduating, is scared that she will not be able to obtain employment because of the exit vote!! This is absolute cobblers and presumably the remain camp are just stirring things up to create unrest and further their own ends [wanting another vote !]

Being ex R.A.F. I would just like to comment that had it not been for the help from Polish pilots who were able to show certain tactics in defeating the luftwaffe, we would not be having an in or out vote to-day !!
JohnHerb
11th Jul 2016
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Have to say it does look at mess. Where are the Brexit leaders? All gone!
latin
16th Jul 2016
3
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You need to get out more as you are becoming repetitive and very very boring!
Roof Top Crow
18th Jul 2016
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Am I to assume you only want to read post that you agree with?
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Hattie
5th Jul 2016
3
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lagarto, we managed all of your worries before entering the EU.

Now that it's over. The Remain voters seem to be mainly young people. What makes me sad, these young people appear to very, very scared that they might have to stand on their own 2 feet and would rather hand over the responsibility for their lives to EU.

I may not be here when it all settles down, but glad i voted out.
Roof Top Crow
6th Jul 2016
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You seem to have forgotten that our economy was in ruins before we joined the EU. The UK joined because it was our only way out of the problem. It worked, we became the 2nd strongest economy in the EU and 5th strongest in the world.

48% of the country voted to stay in the EU. Logically that includes old and young alike. It is not a question of being scared. The reality is simple, by voting to leave we have inflicted a huge amount of damage on our current economy and the economy of the future generations.

It will be for the younger generations to try and put the UK back together again. I can see from your post that you were prepared to be part of the vote that caused such damage but you are not choosing to help the recovery.
Lionel
8th Jul 2016
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Roof Top, you called it wrong! Britain will forge ahead without Europe or you Europhiles. When I see that word I read self interest at the expense of others.
latin
16th Jul 2016
2
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Well said lionel,we cant vote green up as yours has gone wrong.
We have several trolls trolling along I see!
lagarto
4th Jul 2016
2
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What worries me most is the growing xenophobia. I see a shocking increase of racism and openly bigoted attacks on people for merely being or perceived as being non British-born.
I also see an increase in homelessness. I fear our government is not committed to increasing social housing and care of the most vulnerable in our society, or even of people who are not vulnerable, but not rich enough to have access to further education, child care, care for the elderly, disabled, or use public transport.
The other worry I have is the loss of funding for science and education projects. I fear we might be becoming more intolerant and closed.
So, yes, I fear more chaos, and Britain becoming less the beautiful, green, open friendly land I found when I came here more than 40 years ago.
latin
16th Jul 2016
2
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You have swallowed the inners propaganda hook line and sinker!
Do your homework and research instead of believing all you read in papers and hear on the news.
Also you need to get out more.
Lionel
4th Jul 2016
2
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Lagarto, Wikipedia tells me that means either Brazilian or Lizard.

Lagarto, let's get away from Tony Blair's corruption of the English language and the politically correct path he put in place alongside that. I hope we've all grown up after the disastrous Blair years.

Xenophobia means a 'fear,' of foreigners or things alien to our culture or norms. If you mean a growing 'fear,' of foreigners is arising in the UK, you're probably correct. But let's be precise here. It is a fear, in some parts of the UK, of what non UK nationals are doing, or have done to our country. And that with the blessing of our elected governments! Houses, jobs, school places and even ethnic shops preclude our own people. This very day we had a delivery from Amazon by a driver who had no English! Doesn't that tell you something is out of balance here?So many areas of East Anglia are now 'no-go areas.' I know, I live here.

Now let's deal with your other allegation - racism. Again, this is a Blairite corruption of the English language, one which served his purposes very well. And, it seems, still does!

The English people traditionally have been accepting of migrants from other nations. I am from migrant stock. Polish; we came over almost two hundred years ago. But we changed our ways and integrated into English ways; changed our name, move our religion a step forward to Christianity and built lives here. In fact, I've been married for almost eighteen years to another of the same background, and that without knowing it before we married!

Generally, Post War migrants have not integrated with the English, no, they live their lives and we ours. Separately. This is not the way forward for any nation, because it ceases to be a nation. It then becomes a people divided against themselves. That is a recipe for disaster, which I think it what we are facing. Even I, as a fairly liberal, fairly moderate man, a man concerned more with peace than conflict, sees ahead. So sadly, I see it an unavoidable.

Please allow me to tell you, I am not a nationalist, neither do I belong to any political movement, nor have sympathies with any of them. I am an individual who has lived in several parts of the UK and outside it.

Migration of any sort on the scale we have today, well, it doesn't work out. It will result in major problems. Migration on a smaller scale will work out, with the good will of the English people which is always in place.

I do not fear xenophobia or racism, well, in the terms as you use them, because they're just meaningless Blairite words, words without meaning in real life. But I do fear this newly liberated nation's response to mass migration. I will not be a part of that response, nor do I condone it. Indeed, elsewhere in the British press I have written extensively against a violent response. But just maybe, I can understand it. And just maybe I may empathise, if not enter into it.

Yes, this nation is in turmoil, upheaval. I don't like that fact, I can't condone it, am not part of it, but, having travelled the UK extensively I do have some sympathy.

If you know anything of English history you will know the English people, from time to time, rise up against their kings/governments or parliaments. Each time the result has been a change of direction for the state, and the people.

Now is just such a time.
latin
16th Jul 2016
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Well said Lionel,I think we are talking to trolls !
The clue lies in their lack of knowledge and the fact they believe all they hear and see.
I bet not one of them reads other countrys daily newspapers!
Roof Top Crow
17th Jul 2016
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You refer to other countries newspapers. Can you tell me what the names of the newspapers. Even better can you give me an outline of what they are saying.
Roof Top Crow
30th Jun 2016
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I know the following post is a bit geeky, but it is something we should all be aware of.

An MP was on the TV last night and he very blithely said that because the FTSE 100 was recovering it proved that voting leave would not damage the UK economy or affect our cost of living. He did not mention the FTSE 250

It was the classic smoke and mirrors statement.

The FTSE 100 is heavily geared towards the worldwide economy of oil, mining, banking, energy and so on. The UK is, in reality, a small part of the world economy. ( NB. This should not be confused with the wealth of the UK) The FTSE 100 plays a very small part in our day to day cost of living.

The FTSE 250 is different. It is far more domestically geared. It comprises of many household names we all know and there are very few oil, banking and energy businesses listed. The performance of the FTSE 250 businesses plays a very big part in our day to day cost of living.
In the past week, the FTSE 250 has performed very badly when compared against similar world indices. The forecasters are all agreed that voting to leave the EU will have a negative effect on the FTSE 250.

As I have said above the FTSE 250 reflects how we live and the cost of living for all of us.

The inevitability of voting to leave is that the majority of FTSE 250 businesses will continue to perform badly and this will increase our cost of living.
latin
16th Jul 2016
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Roof top Crow you give Crows a bad image!
Were you aware they are highly intelligent birds!
You need to pick a more suitable name for yourself.
I had a crow (injured) for many years and it spoke far more sence than you,and it didn't get its information off the TV.
Roof Top Crow
17th Jul 2016
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Crows. You cannot compare the intelligence shown in birds with the intelligence and reasoning shown in homo sapiens (Latin for a wise man).
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Can you let me know what you think of my post, but, before you respond, can you have a second look at my 2nd paragraph. You will see that I was challenging and disagreeing with a statement that was made on TV.
latin
17th Jul 2016
3
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My answer to you is Squark!
I read every word of your comment and that is why I suggested you change your user name.
Lionel
30th Jun 2016
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Roof Top, you leave me amazed with your naivety.

You are clearly a very astute and aware man; a man to be admired, perhaps. But it seems you are also naive. I understand why you treasure cold and hard facts and figures but ...

Would you please tell me ... where in the history of this nation, this people, has advancement been accomplished without some pain, some suffering or deprivation? This night, I can't think of one.

We have been without a German yoke around our necks for seventy years. Got to agree on that, surely? But that came at the price of death, suffering and much humiliation.

My question is, why are you, we, so unwilling to suffer a little (far less than our parents) in order to right a monstrous wrong perpetrated on the British people by Edward Heath? Or, if you prefer, what is so special about this generation of youngsters that they are so deep afraid of being just discomfited, let alone having to suffer in a small way?

You see, Roof Top, in the great scheme of things, you and I count for nothing. Now that's a sobering thought, isn't it?
latin
17th Jul 2016
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Very good comment Lionel,you have a very deep understanding of the situation,but others on here are unable to absorb truthful facts .As I have said before "we waste our time".

Have a nice day.
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Roof Top Crow
17th Jul 2016
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I do not have a problem with Lionel expressing his own views, misguided as they may be.

The problem I have with phrases such as "we waste our time" and "have a nice day" is that they are of no value.

They do not move the conversation forward. What they almost certainly show, are that the views and opinions of the writer are so fixed and blinkered that alternative opinions cannot be considered.
lagarto
4th Jul 2016
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I don't see anything gained at all from this 'suffering' of being out of the EU. I see only loss.
Roof Top Crow
1st Jul 2016
4
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Lionel.
As always you chose to open your post with a point of view written to ensure I respond.

I do not treasure facts and figures but there is no other way of measuring or gauging society. Facts and figures can be used be used to support a lie and they can be used, to tell the truth.

The lie.
We have recently seen how the distortion of facts and figures can be used to manipulate society. The leave campaign made the claim or should I say told an absolute lie, that £350 million a week will be paid to the NHS if society votes to leave the EU.
The truth.
This week we have been given figures by the Bank of England describing what the effect of voting leave had had on the UK economy. Mark Carney said:
Initially, traders and investors saw heavy falls, but then there was a recovery with the FTSE 100 moving back above where it had closed last Thursday. The FTSE 250 index - which contains more UK-focused companies - still remains clearly lower than its pre-referendum level.

There are times in the history of the United Kingdom where the action of other nations has brought poverty and suffering to our nation. The list is long and on this particular day, it is quite poignant that we should be having this conversation.

This time, it is different. I cannot think of a time in history where the UK has chosen to vote for a slow process of long term self-harm.

Your statement about Germany has the feel of xenophobia and I have not seen that in your views before.

Germany is a description of the land within prescribed borders. German people live within those borders. In my lifetime German people have absorbed the collapse of the USSR by accommodating East Germany into its society. In my lifetime German people have been at the forefront in absorbing millions of dispossessed refugees.

On this last point, and to our eternal shame, the UK has done very little to help resolve this crisis and please do not remind me of the 10,000 tents we sent to Turkey and the 20 people we resettled into the Outer Hebrides.

It is a fact that you and I as members of the middle classes have the luxury of knowing that our life will not be changed by this decision to leave the EU. We both of us have enough time in our everyday lives to be able to sit at our keyboards and not have the pressure of work and survival hovering over our heads.

I do not understand what you mean by needing to suffer. There is no nobility or righteousness in suffering, it brings sadness and misery to adults and children alike.

Not sure what you mean by this generation of youngsters. From the comfort of my home I see them working in charities in the poorest parts of the world. I see them working in care homes and in nursing. I see them joining the armed forces and risking and losing their lives overseas. I see them starting businesses and representing the UK as world leaders in the IT industries.

I agree with your last sentence, dust to dust etc.
Lionel
4th Jul 2016
2
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Roof Top, how could you think such a thing of me, that I should head my post so as you would feel a need to reply? Perish the thought!

Well, almost!

I apologise for not replying earlier. My wife has MS and her care comes before all other matters. No, I declined state benefits for my role in her life - it's a matter of devotion to a greatly loved one.

Now to the matter in hand. The time lapse plays into my hand. I've read this evening six powerful trading nations, including the USA want a trade deal with the UK. We've never have a trade deal with any of them except Australia. Now they are queuing up.

In spite of Obama saying we will be at the back of the queue they are now heading the queue!

I looked up CIA World Fact Book, just these nations amount to almost two billion people. Four times the population of the EU. That's some market - get in there Roof Top!

Now, let's deal with your charge of xenophobia in the post above. I've begun to explore this word. Oh, how easy is it to hurl words at each other, and so much the easier when Blair shifted the dictionary meaning to suit his own purposes. PC purposes.

But here I deal with an historic people, not the land they inhabit - nice try, but a failure!

Roof Top, I had family members who died in Treblinka, Belsen and Auschwitz. They were once Europeans living in Jewish settlements across Europe. My head of science at school was the first British NCO into Belsen. Frank Ford. Once, just once, he described what he found. He was a hard man, ever wielding the cane. But he cried, just that, he went beyond himself that day, when he spoke of what he found. No man could reasonably ignore him, and I didn't.

I've been in Germany and Austria and the same spirit is alive and well. More, it's virulent.

Roof Top, you may plead all the apologetics for Germany as come to your mind. But my mind will not change. The Barbarian spirit remains dominant in Germany. That country may not be trusted.

I quote again Margaret Thatcher, not my favourite prime minister:

" You have not anchored Germany to a unified Europe...You have anchored Europe to a newly unified and dominant Germany! In the end my friends, you will find it will not work."

Roof Top, in spite of claims of xenophobia, we all will face a real truth, well, sooner or later.

I've faced this truth, but, and here's the question you must answer ... have you?

And further, to label me as middle class ... well if earning a living by the sweat on one's brow is middle class, then, dear me, you must be nouveau riche!

Oh dear, deBrett's would indicate it requires four generations of accumulated wealth to even begin to be accepted into the wealthy class. As for the nobility, well, that's about a blood line. Sorry old chap, I'm working class, as I always intended to be, and you and yours ... nouveau riche. But, I do not decry you, your ambition or your wealth. As said elsewhere we both followed our dreams. We both eventually inhabited our dream. And that, when we both look back, may say, there was romance in that, wasn't there?

Yes, a great affair with what could be and now is.
bluesuede
30th Jun 2016
4
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RTC, you post as though the numbers in the indices actually matter to Mr & Mrs Average. However the FTSE 250 does not comprise earnings only made up of domestic trade.
I'm really not sure in isolation how your post about the FTSE indices is relevant to the huge raft of issue the EU has created over 43 years.
It is our credit based economy, that cradle to grave love in with debt.
We have an enormous trade imbalance with Europe, truly huge. This vote actually gives us the chance to rebalance that trade deficit by trading with other countries around the world.
If you thought that continuing in the EU as a lone voice with an ever widening trade gap was the answer,it wasn't.
We also might have some chance to reduce our love affair with credit and our house price based economy so driven by foreign buyers.
I see New Zealand has offered us their top trade negotiators for the forthcoming EU trade talks.
If I have to make some belt tightening measures for the long term benefit of my country then I will and would expect any patriot to do likewise.
Roof Top Crow
30th Jun 2016
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You have totally missed the point of my post. I was not writing about the EU, house prices, New Zealand or our credit based economy.

I was writing about the very simple fact that what we all want is a stable economy with low inflation and low unemployment.
To have that kind economy you need the businesses that make up ordinary everyday life to be successful and stable. If those businesses are successful and stable they employ thousands of people and pay lots of tax to the treasury
I am not going to list all the names on the FTSE 250 but here is a sample of eight businesses we all know. Dairy Crest, Britvic, W H Smith, Debenhams, Halfords, Ocado, Saga, Tate and Lyle. As long as businesses like this do well then the country does well.

Your statement about our trade balance is flawed. The UK will never be able to rebalance our economy by trading overseas. We do not have that trading capacity or resource in the UK. The way we have been balancing our trade deficit has been by accepting foreign investment into the UK.
I say was, because in the days leading up to the referendum international money started to leave the UK. With the Brexit decision, last Thursday, the level of money leaving the UK has increased.

I wish you well with your belt-tightening measures. Belt tightening is a luxury the vast majority of society does not want and cannot afford.

For the millions who are living hand to mouth, the last thing they want is to be given some vague theory about belt tightening and patriotism.
MorrisandDoris
2nd Jul 2016
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I am still convinced you are a mole from Brussels !

The world you are talking about is largely a fantasy because it doesn't take into account the differences of other countries to our own, look back at our history with Europe and the rest of the world we are not popular with most.

The vote was for leave so lets get on with it, the main problem for all of us is the Middle East and its spread of extremism.

The movie 'Eye in the Sky' you recommended to me I watched it last night ,enjoyed it !
latin
17th Jul 2016
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Very well said,I could not agree more!
essexcalf
29th Jun 2016
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I have seen Jeremy speak twice and he is even better live than on screen and the crowds love him! He is a truly compassionate, honest man who is trying to do the best for the Labour Party. What a pity the Blairites haven't realised what a brilliant leader he is - if he goes and they take over the party then Labour is finished!!! We can only win an election with Jeremy Corbyn!!
banjo
29th Jun 2016
2
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It will take time to settle in but once they have taken stock & work a plan out we will be trading again in Europe & the Far East . They should adopt the song He ain't heavy he is my brother.
The Road is Long many a Winding Turn. For there Anthem the lyrics are very Apt.
bluesuede
30th Jun 2016
2
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Or "Hotel California" "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave".
Notdeadyet
29th Jun 2016
5
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The vote on here seems to be almost evenly split as to whether there is chaos or not. There will certainly be chaos for some time but I hope we are able to find some sensible people who will be good and effective negotiators to retrieve the situation. I do not want us to remain tied or connected to the EU Single Trade agreement if the EU makes it difficult or levies a penalty - don't stick with it for the sake of it. Use the WTO arrangements instead and/or negotiate our own individually when that opportunity arises. I just hope whoever does it genuinely does have the country's interests at heart and not their own, that is all.
tynes1der
29th Jun 2016
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It's a pity that the Cameron RemaIN campaign relied on scaremongering to the extent people thought Brexit success would be something the Cameron clan was afraid of and therefore must be good enough for people to vote for. Unfortunately Brexit covered up its lack of plans by hiding behind NHS expenditure and immigration.
The only people to gain are the stick and currency brokers as they take profits out of an uncertain situation created mainly by themselves.
bluesuede
30th Jun 2016
4
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Can we stop with this narrow NHS/immigration navel gazing.
The plan is to try and unravel 43 years of EU rules and legislation that we have woven into our way of life.
There could not possibly be a "plan" on the table ready to go for that tsunami of bureaucracy.
We know superficially what we want to happen, control our borders, reduce the pressure on our public servicers, stop single unskilled men from mainly outside the EU now from dumping themselves here, develop trade outside the EU on a level playing field without having to consult messrs Junckers and Tusk, prevent unelected clerks dictating policy. Those are the first important things. However there are libraries of rules, laws and dictats from our membership of the EU. I repeat, no plan could ever be created to deal with that, 1 hour, 1 week, 1 month or 1 year from the day after the referendum.
tynes1der
30th Jun 2016
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Quote "Can we stop with this narrow NHS/immigration navel gazing."

Was that not the focus of Brexit? It's almost the only thing we heard from them. It was only for that reason I mentioned it - certainly not "navel gazing" as most of us saw straight through this narrow minded approach.
latin
17th Jul 2016
2
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You need to do some homework then get outside and breath deeply!
If all else fails join " Confused.com".
tom
29th Jun 2016
6
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we have a great commwealth that we turn our backs by joining the EU,now we can return to doing what we did before we joined, the wealth of talent that we can now draw on and let in to the country as we see fit and not dictated to by unelected idiots in the EU
Wilf
29th Jun 2016
5
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We have many friends in Australia, New Zealand and Canada who will want to welcome an even closer relationship with GB
latin
17th Jul 2016
2
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Which side are you on today Wilf,you really baffle me!
Wilf
17th Jul 2016
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Both sides latin I am a pragmatic being-there are good and bad arguments on both sides...we need a compromise
latin
17th Jul 2016
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No Wilf that's liberal and Lilly livered!
We have been run for years by Lilly livered liberal politicians and look where it's got us,just look at Cammeron and his sp called deals with the EU.
You need conviction and to be one thing or the other and never be a fence sitter as you leave yourself wide open to forms of abuse.
Enjoy the sun while it lasts Wilf.
bluesuede
30th Jun 2016
4
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New Zealand has already offered us their top trade negotiators.
Roof Top Crow
30th Jun 2016
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That will be handy, we need more lamb.
Lionel
29th Jun 2016
9
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In reviewing the overall referendum campaign it strikes me there's something odd here. I hope I may express it coherently.

Cameron in February, returned here with a deal so poor it was like a second hand car without wheels. The he proceeded to 'sell' it to the British public. The more he talked the more my wife and I had the impression he didn't believe his own words. And throughout the campaign he worked just too hard.

Other Remain campaigners punched out distortions of truth, bordering on lies, and sometimes out right lies. Project Fear, so called. They all worked just too hard.

Now. I don't know much Shakespeare but a popular quote comes to mind. 'The lady doth protest too much, methinks.' Apparently from Hamlet.

But it does sum up the feelings in our home.

Why so much protest? Well, could it be because for most of his political life Cameron was a Eurosceptic. Once in No. 10 did he suddenly had a Damascus Road conversion? Unlikely, I must say. There just isn't the collateral evidence given in the Book of Acts where Saul of Tarsus had this miraculous change of mind. No, a more likely is the scenario ...

The constraints of his newly acquired High Office of Prime Minster compelled him to revert to his PR training and espouse the right line. Come the Referendum, well, he must have known he was very unpopular outside the Shires and if he went over the top in his campaign the opposite would result.

And it did! So Cameron actually won the Referendum, has effectively resigned from a job of which he once said, ten years in this job and one would be totally mad! After a suitable recuperation he will, like so many other high ranking Tories, be in line for directorships of banks, international outfits, and much more. A sinecure, highly paid and no direct responsibility. Best of all, no electorate, the dreaded voter.

Just an after thought. Roof Top, you still have business interests. I'm sure you could find Cameron a well paid bolt hole. How you would rate him on the asset register I can't imagine, but, please be creative.
Roof Top Crow
30th Jun 2016
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We have been members of the EU for over 40 years. We already had a different and very much better agreement that the other 27 members. There was never going to be a massive improvement on what we already had. *
The one thing that his critics wanted him to negotiate for the UK was the free movement of people. His critics knew that this could not be negotiated. In his critics eyes, he was doomed to failure before he got to Brussels.

Both sides lied. But the one lie that will be remembered and the one lie that will come back to haunt Johnson, Gove, Grayling and Farage is the £350 million a week that will go to the NHS if we vote leave.

Just change the name to Johnson. For years Boris has been writing articles in the papers very enthusiastically supporting our membership of the EU. When he realised that leading the leave campaign could lead to him being PM he jumped into the big red leave party bus.
And what have we seen in the past 24 hours, Boris launching his bid to be PM.

Thank you for assuming that I have any influence in business or ever had any influence in business. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The reality is that like all of our ex-PMs he will join the USA lecture circuit and write a book.
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The UK has a unique agreement with the EU. Not in Schengen, outside the Euro and a commitment from all the other 27 countries that the UK would to not be involved in any closer political union. We have voted to destroy that agreement and we are starting all over again.
bluesuede
30th Jun 2016
3
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"The UK has a unique agreement with the EU. Not in Schengen, outside the Euro and a commitment from all the other 27 countries that the UK would to not be involved in any closer political union. "
Oh, for crying out loud!
"Not in Schengen" is irrelevant as far as free movement goes. Once anyone reaches a border within the EU they are FREE to travel anywhere unhindered across the whole of the EU. They can be anyone of any nationality. Why do you think terrorists love the free movement nonsense.
How long do you think it would be before we were forced into the Euro in years to come once our one and only leverage of voting out was removed.
"Not involved in closer political union". What about the Court of Justice who can overrule our laws and the 27 other nations can out vote us (as they have done many times) and therefore impose political union in any event.
I'd be very interested in what it was that Cameron and the EU council/commission cobbled together behind closed doors for Cameron to keep us in.
latin
17th Jul 2016
1
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The best most honest comment of the article!
More please,as I am sick and tired of reading Crows comments!
As I wrote earlier my pet crow talked more sence than the great Europhile Roof Top.
Wilf
30th Jun 2016
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I voted to stay in the EU but it did concern me about the closer political union as the Eu is essentially like a giant empire and as we all know from history no empires ever last (Paul Kennedy-Rise & fall of the Great Powers) e.g. Britsih Empire, Spainish Empire, USSR etc
latin
17th Jul 2016
1
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It did not concern you enough though did it Wilf!
May I recommend that you read and inwardly digest blue suede comment ,these are all proven facts and people who voted in needed their heads examined!
mariangrove
29th Jun 2016
7
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I am sure we will be ok. British stoicism will come to the fore like it always does in situations where our backs are against the wall.
We need to stand together now, work together for the future and common good of this great country and put aside the past few months of upset and anger. If Scotland want to separate from us so be it, I hope they don't, they might regret it later on. Stand strong, stand proud and believe.
lizfid3
29th Jun 2016
7
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The chaos is being caused by the arrogance of our politicians. They automatically assumed there would be a remain vote so made absolutely no provision for the alternative. David Cameron made the promise of a referendum in order to win the last election and now it has spectacularly backfired on him. George Osborne spent a few days sitting in a corner sucking his thumb before he finally plucked up the courage to appear and start throwing around more unfounded threats. Jeremy Corbyn made a half-hearted attempt at supporting the remain campaign and convinced nobody, least of all his own MP's. Why did he not stick to his guns and go with the leave campaign? At least he couldn't have been accused of not leading effectively. However, they have now all been shown what happens when you treat voters with contempt so we may now get more truth and less bluster from future parliamentary candidates, unless they wish to endure the same treatment.
JohnHerb
29th Jun 2016
1
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Humans are interesting and the older I get the more stupid they seem. (I include myself in that) Surely the UK government would have had a plan if we did Brexit? They seem to have got their act together pretty quickly but everyone seemed shell shocked by the vote to leave
Silverjan
29th Jun 2016
3
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Interesting - having just voted here that the results of this poll are currently the same as the referendum vote!
latin
17th Jul 2016
1
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winky
29th Jun 2016
6
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I voted to leave and i am still celebrating the fact that after a very long 40 years or so we can call ourselves british ( of which by the way i always have i have never been a european) back to the main point i too put the entire blame on this present gov and especially one D.Cameroon , the trouble was they never expected the out vote to win and by that they were contemptuous of the british electorate.
Second having felt that they were obviously not going to have a plan B in place that again shows the arrogance of the conservatives. Had that been done we would not have had all this turmoil, finally, i am not sure with this comment " Cameroon did say he would stand at the next G/E not the brexit vote ????"
I apologise if he did but whether -or- not i strongly believe he
should not have thrown his dummy out of his pram so early!
long live GREAT BRITAIN!
Theoldgirl
29th Jun 2016
6
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I just think the politicians made things worst, at first it was if and maybes, getting near to the date, they all seem to have a crystal ball, saying this is going to happen, but at the end of the day no one knows what's going to happen. Ok,the pound dropped, but when there is a crisis in Europe, it does. So,let's see how things go.
Jayejaye
29th Jun 2016
11
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We should be pulling together as a whole, not getting decisive on any one issue. We are a country that has voted and so need to cooperate together to work for the future of our country.
Roof Top Crow
28th Jun 2016
8
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I am sometimes startled by the lack of logic and reasoning that is regularly posted on Silversurfers forums. But this type of open forum does not ask that uploaded posts are logical and well reasoned.
Judging by the number of downward red thumbs I get, a lot of Silversurfers do not agree with what I say. I do not have a problem with this response and it does not annoy me.

The only thing that annoys me is racism and xenophobia.
Very regrettably UKIP and the vote to leave is being used as a license to make racist comments.

This has spilled over into race hate slogans being daubed on a number of Polish social clubs. It brings back memories of jackbooted National Front members taunting immigrants on the streets of Britain in the late 80s.
New York Times June 27th, 2016.
latin
17th Jul 2016
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And who do you think is daubing these things around?
I live in an area that has been SWAMPED by immigrants They hang around everywhere drinking and catching Swans and Ducks etc .Plus they fish out of season!
We have so many no go areas now and the place looks terrible!
You won't like the word swamped but that is exactly what area has been!
We have become the dumping ground of the EU /UK.

What is your reasoning behind mentioning UKIP along side racism.
I believe this hate is being done by the in voters to try to place the racism card on all those who voted to leave!
I think America needs to get its own house in order before passing comments on the UK.
celtwitch
30th Jun 2016
1
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What do you mean by 'racism' and why does a fear of foreigners, particularly nasty violent ones 'annoy' you?
Roof Top Crow
30th Jun 2016
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Racism is a complex subject but briefly, it means when someone is treated differently just because of their race, culture or colour.
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Xenophobia is a fear or hatred of foreigners or anything that is foreign or strange.
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A person who is violent and nasty in society is acting against the best interests of the rest of society

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bluesuede
30th Jun 2016
1
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You are simply regurgitating media click bait. 1980's? Why not go back to Roman Britain?
I think you have an inkling of what you mean, but between head and keyboard something goes awry.
You mistake people's genuine concerns for something they are not. I thought this racism non issue that is often attempted to prevent real debate had been exposed for tripe that it is.
If you want taunting please try Luton, Bradford, Halifax, Southall, Regent Park mosque, Peterborough..............you can find it in spades, yes, white British on the receiving end, but that doesn't provide click bait or sell newspapers.
New York Times =Huffington Post nowadays.
Craftyfox
29th Jun 2016
2
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You obviously know nothing whatsoever about the National Front, so please don't make ridicules statements, like that one.
Roof Top Crow
29th Jun 2016
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Please read again. It was a direct quote from the New York Times.
Craftyfox
29th Jun 2016
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My apologies, it's the New York Times that know nothing about it. Not surprised, they probably got it from the British media.
Roof Top Crow
29th Jun 2016
1
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It was a historical reference by the New York Times.

They seem to have disappeared from public view. At the March 2016 demonstration in Cardiff just 25 National Front members turned up, Unfortunately some had to leave early because of the bank holiday train timetables.
Lionel
28th Jun 2016
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Roof Top, must you be so damnably supercilious?
Roof Top Crow
28th Jun 2016
8
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On re-reading my post, I must admit that on this one occasion you are correct.

A quick check with my online dictionary also supported your view.

Adjective
arrogant, haughty, conceited, disdainful, overbearing, pompous, condescending, superior, patronizing, imperious, proud, lofty, lordly, snobbish, snobby, overweening and smug.

I stopped at smug as I had definitely got the gist of what was being said.
Lionel
28th Jun 2016
5
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Fair do's Roof Top, you remain high in my estimation. Let's pursue our battle ...
viking
28th Jun 2016
3
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Oh dear blue suede, you have made an enemy of roof top now.Your comments that I heartily agree with, will enrage our friend who will now assail you with as many tasty bits he can find from Google !!
Roof Top Crow
28th Jun 2016
3
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There are often posts on this and other forums about foreign workers taking low pay and low-skilled work away from British born people.

Can we broaden this discussion and look at what is happening in the well paid and highly skilled sectors such as the IT industry. The IT industry in the UK employs thousands and thousands of people, pays them very well and is recognised as a world leader.
Within the high-tech IT industries, it has always been difficult to find potential employees who have suitable computer science qualifications. The country of birth is immaterial and businesses worldwide are in competition to find the brightest and the best. The UK does not pay as much as the USA and Germany, but the one major advantage we had in the past, was the attraction of living in the UK and within the EU.

The reality is that we all judge the values of other countries by what we see on the TV and just about every country in the world is watching the UK on its news channels.
All of us have seen on our TV screens the inward looking, small-minded, xenophobic and race hate statements that British people being interviewed on all the news channels have been happy to make. We have also seen it on this forum.
This same information is getting worldwide coverage and the UK is being shown abroad as an inward looking small-minded, xenophobic, racist and backward country where foreigners are not welcome. This morning international TV is reporting on racist attacks on Polish community centres in the UK.

Not surprisingly the international recruitment businesses in the IT industry has already seen a marked downturn in the number of applicants who want to come and work in the UK. This is not a surprise, who, after all, would want to have a working career in a country that is openly racist. And remember we have had just one day of the week following our decision to vote to leave.

If highly skilled people chose not to come and work in the UK it will not create job opportunities for low-skilled people from the UK or anywhere else. The companies and businesses that offer these jobs will leave the UK, they will take all of their employees to another country and not come back.
latin
17th Jul 2016
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IT and computer science is one thing myself and family know a great deal about.
All you have written is absolute rubbish and I suggest once again you need to look at your information source!
Stop peddling half truths and misery on this site and run along to the Gaurdian playground where you will be welcomed with open arms!
Stop talking this country down and acting as though you are certain it's all doom and gloom.
Lionel
28th Jun 2016
2
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You said, can we broaden this discussion? No, answer the point made.
Roof Top Crow
28th Jun 2016
0
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I thought I had, you asked me a question and I replied. I said no.
bluemoon239
28th Jun 2016
3
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Well, one thing for certain, after the votes there has been an awful lot more hate crimes. People seem to feel free of everything European including their neighbours, "friends". So they go around insulting and blaming others. Most Europeans living here work , study and pay taxes just like you, if not more .
Hattie
27th Jun 2016
3
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I'm amazed at the Remain voters, they don't seem to have much confidence in themselves. They would rather hand over the decisions of running their Country over to the EU.
bluesuede
27th Jun 2016
11
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I despair that so many seem to in a blind panic especially over shares with the herd mentality prevalent.
I see that the fifth columnists have already tried to deny the out vote by using selected snippets from interviews from out voters to give the lie that they wanted to change their mind and apparently London hedonists think that they should be separatists.
Nothing has happened yet as all we have done as a nation is vote to leave the EU shackles. It is our two faced "pals" in the EU calling for us to go asap to protect their gravy train.
Journalists and the establishment have been dealt a body blow as this vote was also a vote on their competence with them overwhelmingly declaring "a remain outcome" after the vote.
We actually have a strong hand as far as trade goes which is why Angela Merkel is being less of an hysteric than Junckers and Tusk. Junckers, who is essentially an unelected (except by the council of ministers) clerk absolutely hates the UK after Cameron tried to block his appointment knowing he is a rabid centralist whose father was in the werhmacht and the vote was 26 -2 in his favour. The last British pm to try and block the president of the commission was John Major and that failed as well and the EU got Jacques Santer. Merkel knows that we import a huge amount of German goods and doesn't want to lose that market.
I assume once the dust has settled and the lights still work, gas is still used for cooking, the buses turn up, people get paid and Apple iphones are still in the shops that we will settle down to life without the unelected EU clerks.
What we should be focusing on is our buying power as who but people like Junckers who are on huge non performance salaries and couldn't careless if we buy less from our European neighbours would want to lose the billions we spend buying our neighbours' goods.
The government's gambit should be "if you want our business then it comes at a reasonable price, but try and punish us and we'll shop elsewhere".
We do have a great spirit in this country when it is raised, my fear is that is it something that the 18-40 age group is prepared to find and use as few have really ever lived through hard times and am not sure they have the moral fibre for a sustained regrouping of this country's greatest assets; its people.
Roof Top Crow
17th Jul 2016
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Are you talking about the same 18 -40 group that joins our armed forces and fights overseas, or maybe you are talking about the thousands that work overseas in voluntary jobs, or maybe you are talking about the people in nursing and caring for the elderly.
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What is this moral fibre you talk so easily about. ?

Can you give some examples please.
latin
17th Jul 2016
1
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Once again a fantastic factual comment !
Well done bluesuede your replys are always refreshing and factual!
Lionel
27th Jun 2016
4
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Bluesuede, that's the best, the most logical and far reaching comment yet. I do so thank you for this context on these difficult times. Perhaps we should talk on here more often.
butterfly1
27th Jun 2016
6
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Lets now put the GREAT back into "GREAT BRITAIN" and get our Country back. No more Brussels telling us what we got to do ie Farmers being told what they can and cannot grow, Fishermen How much Fish we can catch. How many immigrants we have to let into our Country. Lets use the Money we have to give every Day/week to EU and use it to make our Country better re Jobs, Building Homes, Hospitals and giving our old Folk a decent Pension for a change to make life a little better.
The Government who did not want us out are now thinking of another Vote as they think that we did not want to come out and voted wrongly? what's this all about? Before ever we went into the EU we had good trading relations with many many Countries and we will find that we still will be able to trade probably at a better rate as we are not govern by Brussels. God Save our Lovely Queen, as she has served our Country and our people so well. No private life for her and her Family. We should all appreciate her a little more and for what she has done for this Country over the Years.
Roof Top Crow
28th Jun 2016
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You are correct our Queen has served our country very well.

It must be very distressing for The Queen to have to recognise that the leave vote will see the end of our United Kingdom.

Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales all seeking independence and London and Brighton wanting special tax status.

Simple things like Balmoral being in another country. I assume that when the Royals want to travel to Scotland it would be on diplomatic visas or maybe they can have dual nationality.
latin
17th Jul 2016
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Do not keep insulting Crows.
I told you to get a new name as the crow is one of our most intelligent birds.
Stop talking as though your views are fact!
You don't have facts of the future at all,and you certainly don't help matters by talking down our future.
You need to look at what the last Bank of England Governor (the longest one ever)Sir Mervyn King has been saying these last few weeks,this is the voice of experience ,look him up and hopefully you may stop some of your negativity .
Trust the voice of experience not the Carneys of this world .
He is the X chancellors puppet.
celtwitch
27th Jun 2016
11
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The arrogant EU elites have triggered the biggest migration of unskilled, unwanted and downright dangerous men into Europe since the end of WW2. I would say that the chaos is entirely the fault of the EU, but now we are free of them.
We now need to hold our nerve, let's wait and see what happens, but whatever does happen it will be massively better than remaining in the corrupt, irresponsible and dishonest EU.
Go UK, Go England, Go Great Britain!
Lionel
27th Jun 2016
3
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For once, Celtwitch, I agree with you, I'll promise here not to make it a habit!
Roof Top Crow
27th Jun 2016
1
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Can you tell me how you will help create this Go UK society you very blithely write about.
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What is it exactly you will do to create the jobs and income that ordinary working people need.
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And just a quick reminder. We are still full members of the EU and we will be for at least the next 2 years.
celtwitch
28th Jun 2016
5
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My 'Go UK' was a rallying cry to a nation that has been cowed by EU regulation for far too long, I thought that someone as erudite as yourself would have realised that?
What would I do? Well, as you've probably guessed, I'm not a politician, I wasn't even good at office politics.
However, a good place to start might be to empty our prisons of foreign criminals, then overhaul human rights and asylum rules and regulations.
Simultaneously we could kick start our manufacturing base by building a new luxury car that the world would die for, much like the RR and Bentley.
I would open up some coal mines to power our electricity generation in carbon capture state of the art power stations.

I would get a grip of the banks, I don't know how, but I could ask my ex as he knows everything.
I would requisition all second homes and use them to house our ex-service guys and others who are currently homeless. The owners could have them back when we have freed up the properties currently occupied by economically inactive migrants who would be sent back home with a small resettlement grant.
I would abolish the BBC and replace it with a People's Channel, funded through VOLUNTARY subscription and advertising.
I would limit the Royals to one London home and a seaside caravan. The freed up palaces would be converted into starter homes for young British people.
I would close all kebab shops, ban street eating, close the pubs at midnight at weekends, charge drunks for treatment at A&E, ban overly noisy motorbikes and limit footballers wages to £500.00 per week, but they would have to earn it!
Finally, I would recruit all crowers from rooftops into a 'people's think tank.'
Roof Top Crow
28th Jun 2016
1
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I am afraid nobody heard your rallying cry, I think you need a wider audience or maybe a political platform. But then you said you are not good at politics.

A prisoner swap. 23,000
None UK citizens have been deported since 2010. That kind of deportation programme will stop when we leave the EU. We would then need the goodwill of those prisoners country of birth to say yes, please send them back. In the meantime, we may as well get our UK born criminals out of the overseas jails. I think there are 2000 of them.

Rolls-Royce is owned by BMW Germany and they are planning to build the next models in Dresden

Bentley is owned by Volkswagen Germany and there is talk of the whole plant in the UK being shifted to Wolfsburg

Property requisition. That would certainly block up the courts.

And the rest seems to be an implausible mix of requests. I suspect that you are just trying to amuse us.

Alternatively, have you thought about not reading the Daily Express and the Daily Mail for a while?
Roof Top Crow
28th Jun 2016
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This should have read 23,000 prisoners not born in the UK have been deported since 201.
Lionel
27th Jun 2016
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Afraid of a little pain, Roof Top? I thought you were a child of the fifties, of rationing, hand me downs etc., as I was.

Of course it's going to be difficult. Civil unrest will break out and the metropolitans have the most to fear from that. This present sort out in Westminster is so very necessary and so long over due. So far it has not gone far enough.

I'll ask again, do your business interests employ low waged immigrant labour to the detriment of English labour?

An answer would be good.
Roof Top Crow
28th Jun 2016
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patsymcn
27th Jun 2016
4
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chaos for a while until the chiefs and the indians are sorted and all pull together to make a better future for everyone
Lionel
27th Jun 2016
3
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mazz
27th Jun 2016
2
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Why is everyone panicking, let's just wait and see. We may even be joined by others??
Lionel
27th Jun 2016
2
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Jazz, be assured, we will be joined by others, if my friends in the Central European bloc are representative.
shortyshah
27th Jun 2016
5
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The biggest challenge will be to accept that this has happened.
The best way to look at it in my opinion is to have a positive approach to the unknown future that lies ahead.It can be achieved with everyone working together.The politicians need to set a good example with accepting the situation and not fighting amongst themselves.they are not being paid to waste so much time attacking each other but rather to do a job -Just imagine if the rest of us behaved like the politicians at our work place and spent 70percent of our time arguing instead of being productive.
This is a great country,and right now it needs for people to come together to make it once again the envy of the world.
Lionel
27th Jun 2016
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Agreed! That's the British spirit, well as I understand it.
Pam1960
27th Jun 2016
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The leave voters keep saying that there was no racism involved in their decision to vote. That may be the case for the people on this forum but that is not what is happening on the streets. There are verbal and physical attacks on both eastern Europeans and Muslims. Apart from the general crisis what will be done about the treatment of these people. I love my country but at the moment I am ashamed to be British
Wilf
17th Jul 2016
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I think its getting better Pam...I wanted to stay in but see Australia has just offered UK free trade deal...others including USA will probably follow
Roof Top Crow
17th Jul 2016
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That's good
Does anyone know what we want to buy from Australia that we cannot buy at the moment.
Does anyone know what we want to sell to Australia that we cannot sell to them at the moment.
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Does anyone know if the Australia free trade negotiations with the EU are still on the table for 2017.
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Australia has close to 1500 businesses in the UK, they use them as trading platforms with the EU. Does anyone have any thoughts on what might happen to these businesses when we leave the EU.
Wilf
17th Jul 2016
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Not sure if you have been to Oz but a great country and 50% of people in Perth are Brits. Before the EU we had great trading with them.they have oil, gas, minerals, sheep, food, butter and are a great nation. We should trade again with them./ By the way I was and am a remainer in the EU. We should never have forgotten Oz & NZ & Canada
Roof Top Crow
18th Jul 2016
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I know that Australia is our 12th biggest export market at the moment. On average we have to pay 4% on the goods we export. The list is long and extensive.

The import list from Australia is also very long and includes just about everything they want us to buy.

The same applies to a greater or lesser extent with countries such as New Zealand, Canada and the Commonwealth countries.

Have you any facts on what free trade deals with the Commonwealth countries would actually mean for the UK.
latin
17th Jul 2016
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Make sure you know who is doing this before you start branding negative comments about!
Don't presume it's Brexiteers as I believe it is Inners doing it so that they can further their course for staying in and trying to brand Brexiteers Right Wing Racists!
bluesuede
27th Jun 2016
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Pam1960, please don't fall into the "believe everything you read" trap.
These are selected stories to ramp up sentiment. Who but the British could be so self critical on the say so of a few journalists.
I must say that we hardly ever hear of the Brit baiting by foreign nationals in this country or the sexual targeting of white Christian teenagers by muslims, the hundreds of Eastern Europeans sent back to Eastern Europe weekly by military planes from their own countries who have committed serious crimes here.
Please don't knock your own country as these isolated incidents happen everywhere, but it seems only the British get targeted by journalists.
I personally have not felt as proud to be British for many a year as I did on the morning of the 24th June after I heard the result of the vote.
Lionel
27th Jun 2016
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Carrie131
26th Jun 2016
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I think it will be difficult to start with but if we all pull together (no matter what we voted) we can make it work and have a Great Britain once again with a controlled flow of People of all countries in and out.
Wilf
26th Jun 2016
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I totally agree. We just need to have a cool head and get a sensible team with policies that enable us to trade with the EU but not be part of a political union that I do not think would work
latin
17th Jul 2016
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Well done Wilf you are on board at last!
Wilf
17th Jul 2016
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Well I always was pragmatic. We should have stayed in. EU should have limited immigration to c100k or less and stopped trying to build a federal EU. We are coming out...we need to make the most of it...trade with Eu and rest of the world
Hattie
26th Jun 2016
3
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I have read that some 'Out Voters' saying 'oh dear iv'e changed my mind'. Geeze how pathetic. Maybe! Maybe! if the lot of lazy non voters had gotten of their backsides and used their vote result Might! have been different. It's done, now we have to work together and get UK back. ' That's Democracy '
latin
17th Jul 2016
0
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Don't believe all you read,I have just heard that many Inners wish they had voted OUT!
It's called spin with a capital "S".
celtwitch
28th Jun 2016
3
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The Leave voters who are having second thoughts are like the people that buy a puppy, only to realise a few days later that it's too demanding. They lack the bottle, balls and vision to see through what they have started.
Christiana
26th Jun 2016
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Don't think general public looked at the bigger picture when voting OUT they were hoodwinked over the immigration issue
Wilf
17th Jul 2016
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I do agree with this as think the EU will play hardball like they have with Switzerland and Norway
latin
17th Jul 2016
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In your dreams!
Medication time.
bluesuede
27th Jun 2016
5
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I disagree and firmly believe that it was more a control issue. We want control of our borders again, our laws, our economy, our future free from unelected clerks telling us how it is.
No one was really hoodwinked. The press and disgruntled in voters would like people to believe that but it isn't true.
Granny Searle
26th Jun 2016
7
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I disagree. Immigration is a big issue and needs to be sorted out but I am sick and tired of being told what we can and cannot do by the EU and that is the reason I voted OUT.
Roof Top Crow
26th Jun 2016
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The UK has become very successful socially and economically using a system of representative democracy. We vote for someone to represent our interests. There are 650 elected MPs and they all have an equal vote.

On 23rd June 2016 the UK population was given the opportunity to decide on our continuing membership of the EU using the referendum or direct democracy system.

500 of the MPs we elected in May 2015 using the representative democracy system wanted the UK to retain its membership of the EU. 150 MPs wanted us to withdraw our membership of the EU.

On 23rd June 2016 the UK population used the referendum or direct democracy system and voted to say they wanted the UK to withdraw its membership of the EU.

It is far too early to know what the outcome of leaving the EU will be for the UK.

What we do know is that all changes and laws that will be triggered by leaving the EU will have to be passed through the House of Commons and voted into UK law. There will be thousands and thousands of laws and directives that will have to be approved or rejected by the House of Commons.

Technically the 500 MPs that the UK elected in May 2017 could choose to reject all of these changes.

I am not saying these 500 MPs will reject any or all of the changes but we should all be aware that they have this option.

This forum asks us a simple question.
Do you think we’re facing chaos now we’re leaving the EU?

I think we all know we are facing chaos, and it will last for years.
latin
17th Jul 2016
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celtwitch
27th Jun 2016
3
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The dictionary defines chaos as 'confusion' or 'disorder.' We have seen chaos in Europe during the past few years as hundreds of thousands of 'refugees' have flooded into Italy, Greece, Austria, Germany, with hundreds of them making it to the UK in containers, rubber boats, trucks and fast boats.
The EU is dealing with the confusion and disorder by welcoming ever more unskilled, illiterate, grievance mongering, ungrateful 3rd world malcontents, many of whom have committed despicable acts against their hosts.
If you want to see chaos, just look to the EU, NOT the UK.
Roof Top Crow
27th Jun 2016
1
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The question was to do with the UK. It was not to do with a humanitarian crisis, that has driven millions of people out of their homes and left thousands dead.

It does not help the balance of this forum when you put forward your very offensive and totally unsubstantiated opinion that all refugees are to quote your words ”unskilled, illiterate, grievance mongering, ungrateful 3rd world malcontents”
bluesuede
27th Jun 2016
5
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So please tell us, what is the EU then? The EU economies, save for Germany whose exchange rate was the most favourable when set to join the Euro are in turmoil, unemployment is rife, their economies stagnant, their youth aimless, their growth negative.
They are fixed in a one size fits all system of blue sky thinking nonsense which is unsustainable and you think that WE have chaos!
How long do you think the mindless one size fits all has already been in operation in Europe.
I am loathe to be rude, but you strike me as one so in love with the leased 3 series, big shoes,big watch and iPhone junkies who thinks that being part of the EU is all about holidays, eating French cheese, the villa holiday in some European country with just enough wine knowledge to know the difference between French and New World plonk.
We need people with moral fibre who are not afraid of a challenge and love their country and are not morally defeated at the first hurdle. I served with plenty when I was in the RAF and wish there were more about today.
latin
17th Jul 2016
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Here here.
Isnt Crow a depressing with his distorted views.
Thank goodness we were not dependant on people with his mentality in our wars.
Roof Top Crow
17th Jul 2016
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Was that the wars we won or the wars we lost ?

As far as I know the last war we had ended in 1945.
Wilf
17th Jul 2016
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Iraq and Afghanistan..and we are still there...Libya in 2011
Lionel
27th Jun 2016
3
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Good stuff Bluesuede. This feels like 1940 all over again. Not yet bullets and bombs, but a standoff of international proportions. The Europeans will capitulate under Germanys economic force, but we have begun, just begun, to show we will not.

Here I'll quote Maggie Thatcher;

" You have not anchored Germany to a unified Europe...You have anchored Europe to a newly unified and dominant Germany! In the end my friends, you will find it will not work."

And it's not, and will never work!
maggiekay31
29th Jun 2016
2
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It took thousands of lives to stop Germany ruling Europe twice. LEts hope we will do it this time in a peaceful, if difficult, way.
Roof Top Crow
27th Jun 2016
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You do seem very angry about all of this.
I am really not sure why you denigrate iPhones, Big Shoes, Big Watches and French Cheese. It seems even odder that you believe these things are symbols of a lack of moral fibre.
Maybe you can let us older Silversurfers know what you mean.
latin
17th Jul 2016
0
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Troll along Crow you are boring now.
As I said before most of us on these pages have no time for your negativity but the Gaurdian newspaper will love you.
Lionel
26th Jun 2016
3
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Roof Top, my older sparring partner, you never cease to amaze me. Such simplicity, such ill-founded faith in the system. Allow me to tell you something, then please go verify my words. But an interlude ...

Fifty years ago I passed British Constitution at 'O' level, class one. It was but a part of a decent academic success story. It ended with a first class BSc in Geology, which I paid for out of earned income.

In the course of studying Brit Con I learned that MP's do not represent the voters. No. According to some sort of directive passed to MP's around 1850, they are required to represent their party in a given area, a constituency. Locally a party is elected, not a person. We voters are of no account! Thus, to say this is a representative democracy is, well, rather simplistic. Rather naive, wouldn't you agree?

The same may be said of County Councils, District Councils and the worst of all, Parish Councils.

As you've written here these last couple of months I'm left with a conclusion you are a successful, self made metropolitan, urbane, wealthy and disconnected from a very real reality. What connection have you with shop floor workers? What connection with those in this generation who need a Friday pay packet?

And you pontificate here on remaining in the EU? For who's benefit? Yours? Your stance cannot be for the benefit of those, like your father, who rely upon a Friday pay packet. How many of your businesses employ cheap foreign labour, to the detriment of English labour. Of course, you'll say none, but you would, wouldn't you.

In answer to the forum question ... Chaos, yes. But here I'll say no worse than bankers and businessmen have put us in these last many years. Now let me say ...

I can stand the pain of Brexit, but can you. One wonders.
Roof Top Crow
27th Jun 2016
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Good morning Lionel and good morning Silversurfers.
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None of us have any idea what is going to happen, the only thing we already know is that the promises made by both sides will not be kept.

Ian Duncan - Smith. We did not promise £350 million a week would go to the NHS.
Osborne. The emergency budget I threatened will probably not happen.
Boris. The EU is our most important trading partner, we need to improve our relationship with them.
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Cameron stepping down.
Corbyn will have to resign at some point.
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I am just about to disconnect myself from the real world by walking the dog.
Lionel
28th Jun 2016
1
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Roof Top, I live with a family of mad but super intelligent Border Collies. Probably, as you were walking your dog I was out roaming meadows, pastures and walk ways. But then I was a shepherd, working with Collies so control, of my dogs is easy. My dogs have never had a lead on them, I just let them go. They are never more than fifty yards from me.

But, as you rightly say, it is a time to disconnect from the real world of dysfunctional politics, family and whatever else. Lovely time. A time to be alone ... so rare for people in this interconnected world.

So glad I'm nor interconnected.
Barbara58
27th Jun 2016
1
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Surely walking the dog is part of the real world!
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Good morning Roof Top! Have a lovely walk ... we will all still be here when you get back 😉
Roof Top Crow
27th Jun 2016
1
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Good morning Sally.
red wine
25th Jun 2016
4
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lets be positive, it's going to be great
bluesuede
27th Jun 2016
2
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Eventually it will,but can we convince the youth and 18-40's?
Dollie
25th Jun 2016
0
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too much speculation!
gangster
25th Jun 2016
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since we are leaving the EU!!!
I think nobody had any idea what they would do if we left the EU
1 will the channel tunnel be forced to close or will
passport control stalls be set-up & customs & excise patrol guards be checking suitcases with the ticket inspecter walking down the Eurostar as
it crosses the Euro-channel & approaches Folkstone
2 Now the PM has resigned! nobody is doing anything posative about the UK role outside Europe, when will the PM nominate a commitee
or commision to oversee or consolidate our unity with the commonwealth & other International leaders (welcome back New Zealand Lamb) bye bye Danish bacon.
Christiana
25th Jun 2016
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Who's going to patrol our borders?what will happen to our European passport?will we be treated differently when we travel abroad plus papers report money for NHS been withdrawn!
Roof Top Crow
27th Jun 2016
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I do not know the answer to the first two points.
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Ian Duncan-Smith has spoken on behalf of the Conservative party and said that they never promised £350 million a week for the NHS.
Lionel
28th Jun 2016
1
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And the Remain campaign was so clean?
bluesuede
27th Jun 2016
1
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RTC, how on earth do you think they could counteract the nonsense put out by remain?
We will never know what it really was that Cameron agreed to behind closed doors if we voted to stay will we.
Barbara58
27th Jun 2016
2
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CORRECT! If you had listened no one ever said ALL the money would go to the NHS, reiterated on daily politics this morning.
Roof Top Crow
27th Jun 2016
0
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Whatever you may say now, it is undeniable that people believed the Leave campaign when it said on the side of its big German bus that we are sending £350 million a week to the EU. It was a lie.
People also believed that this same £350 million a week would be diverted to the NHS if they voted to leave.

Ipsos Mori Poll 16th June.
47% of the UK population think it is true that if they vote to Leave then £350 million a week will be sent to the NHS .

The logic is, of course, that since the £350 million figure was a lie then the promise that the NHS would be getting £350 million a week is also a lie.

Chris Grayling 27th June. It is an aspiration and not a promise.
Nigel Farage 27th June. It was a mistake to say that, it is not true
Iain Duncan-Smith 26th June. We never said that we would do this, I never said that.

You can spin this whatever way you want but a lie is a lie.
Lionel
28th Jun 2016
1
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Yes, let's talk about lies, Roof Top.
Wilf
25th Jun 2016
4
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I think it will all be fine-Its just the rise and fall of Great Powers. No "empires" have ever lasted and thats what the EU is
Lionel
28th Jun 2016
1
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Wilf, I agree with you!
Andre
25th Jun 2016
9
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We have been in a referendum contest between Remain and Leave. The people who voted Remain should now have the good grace to accept the decision and stop complaining for this is democracy in action. Perhaps the following statement by Suzanne Evans will give those who are disappointed some reassurance.

Suzanne Evans UKIP

2 hrs •

A Prime Minister resigned. The £ plummeted. The FTSE 100 lost significant ground. But then the £ rallied past February levels, and the FTSE closed on a weekly high: 2.4% up on last Friday, its best performance in 4 months. President Obama decided we wouldn't be at the 'back of the queue' after all and that our 'special relationship' was still strong. The French President confirmed the Le Touquet agreement would stay in place. The President of the European Commission stated Brexit negations would be 'orderly' and stressed the UK would continue to be a 'close partner' of the EU. A big bank denied reports it would shift 2,000 staff overseas. The CBI, vehemently anti-Brexit during the referendum campaign, stated British business was resilient and would adapt. Several countries outside the EU stated they wished to begin bi-lateral trade talks with the UK immediately. If this was the predicted apocalypse, well, it was a very British one. It was all over by teatime. Not a bad first day of freedom.

For all the Negative talk & comments from MPs & brussels. Look how there all wanting to do Business with us..Not bad for our first day of getting our country back.. This will surprise all them Chickens out there..
Roof Top Crow
26th Jun 2016
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Suzanne Evans was suspended by the UKIP party on 23 March 2016 and is now described as a past spokesperson.
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Suzanne said in 2014 that UKIP has very little support in cities as the populations tend to be educated, cultured and young. After blaming immigrants for the housing shortage she then admitted that she herself owns 2 properties and shares ownership in a 3rd
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It is far too soon to be able to make any kind of judgement about the future of the UK outside of the European Union.
latin
17th Jul 2016
1
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Crow you just can't help yourself can you,you are very depressing!
Please run along and stop trying to depress us all with your negativity.
We gave all had a belly full of Cameron and Osbournes lies all these weeks that we now need time to relax and bathe in the thought of Brexit!
Roof Top Crow
17th Jul 2016
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When you have stopped bathing and relaxing maybe you can set aside some time to tell us what Brexit actually means for all of us citizens of the UK.

The Government that was elected a year ago does not know. The opposition party does not know, none of the government advisors know, and none of the financial experts know. Even worse, no one on the Silversurfers forums knows.

But it seems that you do know what is going to happen as a result of the vote to leave the EU.

Are you able to give us an outline of what we can expect? Can you tell us why we will have an improved standard of living, can you tell how this will affect things like the NHS and education.

Nothing to complex, please.
latin
17th Jul 2016
0
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Roof Top that is rich coming from you!
You have written that many comments on doom and gloom and how sure you are of the outcome ,that to waste time conversing with you.
People write on here telling you all the things good that they hope for and their optimism knows no bounds .But of course you have to always put a negative repetitive slant on all their conversations .
Once would have been enough ,we get your message now!
Craftyfox
26th Jun 2016
2
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Tell the 'remain' voters that!
Dawn Winchester
25th Jun 2016
6
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I'm glad we're OUT of the EU . I believe WE can do fine out the EU wich was constintly telling us what to do with our own country . They were distroying GB bit by bit and making us take in too many immigrants that we did not want nor need . It had to Stop . They wouldn't stop it so We the ppl have put a stop to it ourselves by voting to leave and I for one am glad . Common sense we have enough ppl in this country as it it probably far too many . And yet they kept on entering ! There was a big concern for me as a lot that came here did not respect our laws or our beliefs yet they were prepared to use our NHS and take benefits and claime housing . But not living by our laws in our country . Now we can take bck controle of our own Country and our boarders . It might be abit unsteady at the beginning but I'm sure it will work out just fine . As if we had of remained there wouldn't of been a country left to save . And before anyone shout that I'm a racist I'm not ok . If anyone comes here and lives by our laws I'm fine with that but I'm not fine with ppl coming here and not living by our laws .
jeanmark
26th Jun 2016
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Dawn Winchester, you obviously didn't see Newsnight presenter Evan Davis' interview with MEP Daniel Hannan. He accused Daniel Hannan, one of the top Brexit campaigners, of misleading the public after Daniel Hannan admitted that leaving the EU may not cut immigration.This is surely completely at odds with what the 'out' public thought they were voting for!
Catton
24th Jun 2016
1
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I totally agree with you, Jane. Words cannot describe how I feel just now. Leavers have not been forward thinking enough. Britain will never be the way it was before E.U. These days are long gone. I feel so sorry for all the young people who feel let down by the oldos. What will their future be now? Re immigration. We are ALL immigrants. Very sad.
Alicia
25th Jun 2016
3
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I am not an "oldo" and I am not an immigrant !
MorrisandDoris
25th Jun 2016
2
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Perhaps the Leavers were thinking ahead but the Remains didn't !
Don't feel sorry for the young most probably didn't vote anyway it's the older generation that always vote and have you thought that these older voters don't have children and grandchildren to worry about.
You absolutely have no idea about the effects of immigration the good and the bad effects of it on our country ,put your Mills and Boon book down go out and look around the country.
Lionel
24th Jun 2016
3
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As I've said on other threads here, the referendum question is, who governs Great Britain? All other debate is extraneous to this central question; a consequence of a decision, we govern ourselves.

The EU was birthed in lies and deceit, has existed in the same way and knows no other means to continue. Nothing, absolutely nothing, may prosper with a foundation of lies and deceit. It's a spiritual law evidenced in history so often. Todays news at least five other countries within the EU are seeking a referendum on the question of their sovereignty rather bears this out.

I have little doubt some arguments and claims made by the Brexit people here grew from very same foundations. In a little while you will know them for what they are.

No lasting prosperity is birthed in the illusion created in lies and deceit.

My wife and I voted out, you won't be surprised to read. We did that for my wife's children and grand children - soon to be great grand child if one of them doesn't wise up. We voted leave not to improve their chances of prosperity outside the EU, not to give them a better material start. No. We voted leave for them never to be inveigled into this web of deceit, this relentless pursuit of wealth, this illegitimate power structure from which now, only now, have we begun to extricate ourselves.

And not before time.
Joan Fraser
24th Jun 2016
8
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I think we all need to take time to just breathe and think; I seriously never expected to exit EU-given the profiles and errors of Boris and Nigel! That's not to say I am unhappy to be leaving the corrupt and bureaucratic EU behind; nor am I sad that Mr Cameron is departing-I hope Osborne is also on the move.
I think some of the comments from other EU member countries illustrates that it isn't a stable, beneficial, or working institution; and that's before the other less affluent countries ascend to its ranks. There's a lot to consider, and a panicking/sensationalist media doling out only negatives won't help. Neither will an early 2nd Scottish Referendum - we still have far too many uncertainties and unknowns to be addressed; Wales have declared that Labour doesn't work for them - and they want something different, as do many areas of England....Ireland may even get over historic differences as an end result? None of us knows-but if we work together and insist on positive change, maybe a new credible and honest breed of politicians will emerge....it's the least Jo Cox deserves after such a cruel and racist based murder - such evil hatred and sadness has to be redressed and overturned.
In my unsure but positive frame of mind, I am hoping that the sky is unlikely to fall in tomorrow, or even the day after, so I'll take that as a sign that the world and our lives will continue and we can take time to reflect on the Brexit situation - I will also fervently hope that whatever and whoever the future holds in terms of how the UK performs, will be democratic, fair, and just........I think we deserve a bit of stability, truth, and hope after the past few years.
Hattie
24th Jun 2016
6
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Very well put Joan.
If people would just calm down, it's over, and done the democratic way.
One thing i did not like, was some remain voters trying to suggest that migrants working here where suddenly going to find themselves having to leave the Country which is why i think London got remain vote.
Come Monday morning nothing will have changed and won't change for for a good while yet.
Lets just stick together and get the Country back the way we want it.
Lionel
24th Jun 2016
4
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LaneyP
24th Jun 2016
4
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I voted leave and I am pleased I did.... I was not influenced by the likes of Boris or Nigel, but by Jeremy Paxman! The programme he headed changed, my mind 100% from sitting on the fence and uncertainty, to leave, leave, leave. The attached link, if it is allowed to be posted, also reflects my fears if we had stayed http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/06/22/brexit-unitedstatesofeurope/ I post another link of a CNN spokesman after the vote was made and those on the remain side became angry http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2016/06/24/boris-johnson-crowd-sot.cnn Whatever the decision, good or bad, it has been made, we now need to focus on the way forward.....
jane63c
24th Jun 2016
3
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I voted remain and am devastated at the result, I really thought as a country we had more thought for the future of our young people but I was wrong. I feel the leave vote had mistaken the EU referendum for a referendum on immigration. Granted those most badly hit by austerity are probably those who feel threatened by immigration and cheap labour. But those same people will also be most badly hit by what follows. I fear for our public services and especially health and social care. If the UK can be this foolish I dread the result of the US election!
MorrisandDoris
25th Jun 2016
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Our public services were in trouble before the vote because of uncontrolled immigration and it will get worse too until we close the borders.
As far as the young people go most probably didn't bother to vote anyway,too busy taking selfies!
The EU is in a mess watch for more leavers soon.
It wasn't a referendum it was a revolution against our weak and lying government,and a corrupt and inefficient EU !

Mr Trump will make a better president than Mrs Clinton plus he likes us British not like the idiot they have now in the White House.
jane63c
25th Jun 2016
1
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I agree services were struggling before but immigration is a red herring - the trade agreements will be dependent upon open borders so nothing will change there. Our NHS and social care would collapse without staff from other shores.
Young people did come out and vote and they feel let down by their elders who are happy to just take and not give without thought for the future.
I agree the EU is a mess but you can only affect change from within. This country is too small and ineffectual to achieve much on its own. The vote was - as you say - a revolting act with people not considering the important issues only the prejudices fuelled by Murdoch and his acolytes - he wanted out because he can't control the EU like he can No 10.
As for Trump he only likes himself, Obama has been an excellent President.
Still I must shut up as us in the 48% have lost - for now.
Wilf
25th Jun 2016
0
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NOt sure Obama has been excellent. He sorted out the economic mess but the guy cannot make a decison. Look at the "Red Line" speech about Syria. After that he became toothless to the tyrants of the world
jane63c
25th Jun 2016
0
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jeanmark
24th Jun 2016
2
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I share your concerns.
briantodd
24th Jun 2016
4
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I voted remain.
The arguments were all about statistics not trust.
The major issue about Immigrants was disgraceful as fellow residents of the EU have freedom of movement and should not be called immigrants aw they are not
The real need to work together in an increasingly joined up world is essential if we, as British, are to get a reasonable deal from big business.
It was set up as a financial scam to let the big companies rule the world but as it is growing business are being defeated by the actual needs of the rest of us. The TTIP appears to have been rejected by the EU and a good thing too but now!!!!!!!!!
Who knows what we as a single country can do against world wide companies, there are even more influential than countries and we need to work together to oppose much of the capitalist "improvements" they want to impose!
vivienne 60
24th Jun 2016
0
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A of things are going to change. Eg. tax national ins to name a few
marjoriemerrick
24th Jun 2016
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I think we are living well has we are with out any change
Baxi
24th Jun 2016
5
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Any major change like leaving the EU will cause huge issues, it's totally naive to think otherwise. We are facing years and years of change and uncertainty.

We were the fifth largest economy last night. Since the pound devalued we're not, France is.
Hattie
24th Jun 2016
2
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Morning, i voted leave thinking of our young people and their future.
1. Because the thousands of people flooding into UK without jobs EU law says we have to house/feed and give Benefits to while our young people even in work, struggle to get decent jobs, get on housing ladder or even rent.

2. I don't want our young people to watch rapists/killers/drug dealers wandering our streets on Benefits because we can't deport them.

3. Do our young people see the young people in Greece/Portugal/Spain without jobs? These Countries are in the throws of a lot of unrest at the moment, would a remain vote be able to stop UK going the same way? No, we will never know, i just wish people moaning about the result would get behind their Country and make Britain a United Kingdom again.
lindsay todd
24th Jun 2016
3
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Exactly where do you get your information from?
Hattie
24th Jun 2016
3
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Lindsay todd, I have seen all above 3 on News Channels quite a few times.

We really need to calm down. The ordinary hard working people made their decision. It's called Democracy.
jeanmark
24th Jun 2016
2
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Can understand your strength of feeling Hattie, but your 2nd point doesn't makes sense, we have had British rapists/killers/drug dealers wandering our streets on Benefits for a number of years. Does being British make it acceptable?
MorrisandDoris
24th Jun 2016
3
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No it doesn't,but having foreign ones make it worse !
Hattie
24th Jun 2016
5
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jeanmark, 'of course not' I was posting about rapists/killers/drug dealers who commit such crimes in their own country flee to Britain, do crime again, do prison sentence and are able to stay here given taxpayers money, is that ok with you? Like you say we have enough of our own criminals to deal with.
jeanmark
24th Jun 2016
2
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No it doesn't and thanks for clarifying Hattie.
MrFred
24th Jun 2016
3
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You've totally gone against the popular opinion of the young: http://i.imgur.com/K6diScS.jpg and they are certainly the ones who are going to suffer most from the fallout of this ridiculous referendum.

1. Migrants bring more into our economy than they take. We also need these young immigrants to support our ever ageing society.

2. If charged, they would go to prison like all of the other domestic scum we have on our streets.

3. If the European union began to collapse and actually negatively effected our economy, we could have left at any point. Getting back in, if they flourish, however, is not going to happen. It's the leave voters who have hugely gambled on the "mystery box", not the remain voters.

This country has made a huge mistake.
vivienne 60
24th Jun 2016
1
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MorrisandDoris
24th Jun 2016
3
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Most of the young ones don't even vote and it's the older voter who helped vote us out.
As for the immigrants earning money and supporting our economy I would agree but a very large portion of this money is sent back to their own countries which is fine but it distorts the figures,that's why the UK is called the Royal Bank of Poland and Romania
Then there is the black economy,cash in hand no tax, pickpocket gangs from Romania .
And it wasn't a ridiculous referendum just because you didn't like the outcome ,it's called democracy !
Gill54
24th Jun 2016
3
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Huge amounts of young people voted and the bill of them voted remain, look at the voting stats if you want to check.They feel they have been let down by older voters.
MorrisandDoris
25th Jun 2016
0
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If most young voters had voted remain we would be still be in the EU now, but most don't vote so here we are.
Older voters have children and grandchildren think on that.
Gill54
24th Jun 2016
1
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Baxi
24th Jun 2016
2
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More young voted than ever before it was a 72% turnout!
Hattie
24th Jun 2016
0
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MrFred, i have said many, many times i have nothing at all against migrants coming here working, paying taxes like the rest of us. But, seeing boatloads of people plus, gangs at Calais attacking truck drivers trying to do their job, don't you think we should be able to at least try to curb the influx. Don't forget we have to house/feed and give money to those that have made it to UK.

Year after year confidence in the EU has been crumbling as it does not be able to sort any crisis just keeps chucking millions if not billions at countries that are in trouble.
MrFred
24th Jun 2016
2
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I agree that gangs in Calais attacking truck drivers is deplorable - and it certainly does not help anyone's case...

However, now we are going to be dealing with this on our own doorstep - we're going to have migrant and refugee camps in Dover instead. We will no longer have the French protecting the border crossing. Leaving the EU is not going to stop the refugee crisis, or desperate people trying to reach our shores - but we are, now, going to have to handle that alone. I'd be very concerned if I lived in Dover or Folkestone, et al, right now.

I agree that confidence in the EU has been dropping, and there are certainly a lot of broken aspects in the system - but we are certainly far weaker, poorer, and far less influential without it.

Referencing "just keeps chucking millions if not billions at countries": I fully understand your frustration, but I think we'll have a lot more refugees and illegal immigrants if we allow countries around us (the poorer EU countries) to collapse.

We should have stayed in and tried to fix the system, but now, we will have no influence over our huge neighbourhood.
Craftyfox
26th Jun 2016
2
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How on earth do you know all that rubbish? We haven't even left yet. Some crystal ball you have there!
tedennis
25th Jun 2016
3
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The French didn't do a good job anyway, however with the money saved we can upgrade our border controls. We don't seem to have any now.
As for fixing the EU, it is impossible to change the way Eurocrats think. Latest greatest idea is reduce power of kettles and toaster to save fuel, they don't know it take the same energy but just takes longer.
We are better off without that kind of thinking.
Baxi
24th Jun 2016
2
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You're absolutely right Mr Fred. The French are just going to let them all come now, why should they keep them in France when they want to get to the UK?
They'll probably provide the boats for them ... so much for better border control!
thefilthycripple
24th Jun 2016
2
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No chaos ,the EU have never accepted a referendum result before ! The EU will implode if we leave and politically Merkel and Hollande are dead ! Expect the EU to comeback with the mother of all deals
Nikitik
24th Jun 2016
0
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Don't be daft, thefilthycripple, they are already sabre rattling. NO DEALS.
outdoor girl
24th Jun 2016
3
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Huge mistake on so many levels. Very worried about the future!
AnnHar1
24th Jun 2016
-3
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Scared and very sad but praying that the House of Lords will save the day
Wilf
24th Jun 2016
1
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I don't think they can the referendum has happened and the people have spoken. Nothing to do with the Lords. I think it will be ok but will take some time to settle down
hugs59
24th Jun 2016
9
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Very sad morning, I worry for the future of my children and grandchildren. Let's hope we get someone competent as prime minister to lead the country in these uncertain times.
Nikitik
24th Jun 2016
1
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Who is there, we have a parliament full of minnows, except for one or two and they are on the opposition benches.
MorrisandDoris
24th Jun 2016
-2
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Most of the young didn't bother to vote so think on that one !
Nikitik
24th Jun 2016
2
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All those I know did and some of them voted for the first time and they voted IN!
Jo Kingham
24th Jun 2016
-8
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Theresa May for PM!
Nikitik
24th Jun 2016
2
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The lunatics think they run the asylum! What has not been clear all along is that this is not legally binding, advisory. Xenophobia of little people who have never travelled outside their comfort zone. The older generation should have known better and thought of our children and grandchildren. We have already benefitted from 70 years of European peace. I weep for my home duchy of Cornwall, the only part that had sense, Isles of Scilly!
God help the UK, is all I can say.
joan.pearson1
24th Jun 2016
-1
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I also thought that referenda were not binding. Surely this must go to parliament and go through House of Commons and House of Lords. Let us hope common sense will then prevail.
Nikitik
24th Jun 2016
-1
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You are quite correct, referenda are advisory only. Many I think voted out because they were blinded by their hatred of Cameron.
Joan Fraser
24th Jun 2016
3
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Hands up - I detest the man and his elitist corrupt cronies......However, Brussels and Strasbourg are bulging with more of their ilk - and worse still they can't be questioned or held to account. In fact, today I saw more MEPs and Eurocrats than I have ever seen, and the majority were saying their country has to seriously look at the EU and their own membership. So sad, I also learned that some people in Wales are worried about being 'out' as they need regeneration/employment funding - surely a decent and competent home government should be able to facilitate and support that!!! Who are we that needs to put out the begging bowl to others.......No chance of getting 'donations' when the next batch of ascending countries are admitted to EU - but existing members will be asked to dig deep(er), and we simply can't afford that at the expense of our own children and grandchildren-not to mention people working til they drop with no pension
Sueollie
24th Jun 2016
7
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I think you're over dramatising, it's not the end of the world for goodness sake. It's a democratic decision, if you take Scotland out of it then the majority of the country wanted out....and I'm fed up of hearing that I must be racist. I'm not anti immigration, I don't hate foreigners, I'm not narrow minded or unintelligent, I just think we'll be better off without Brussels interfering, I love wonky vegetables too!
MorrisandDoris
24th Jun 2016
-1
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If all the young voters had bothered to vote, the the Remain camp would have won the referendum,most older voters always vote most young voters don't !
Nikitik
24th Jun 2016
2
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I am devastated, Morris and Doris with reference to your saying that the young don't vote, all the young I know did and they voted for REMAIN. So did all but one of the people I know.
AnnHar1
24th Jun 2016
3
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Most of my kids age group voted and voted to remain
Lindelou
24th Jun 2016
3
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I think we are ok but the euro is now in deep trouble.Now27 member states and only 10 now paying in.
AnnHar1
24th Jun 2016
1
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We are still paying in!! It will take years to get out if at all and in the meantime the rest of the world that we trade with have lost confidence in US ! Plus we have right royally ticked off our allies!!
MorrisandDoris
24th Jun 2016
3
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No we won't ,there is only 11 countries in the EU who pay more in than take out ,surprise surprise we are one of them.
Barbara10
24th Jun 2016
8
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I don't believe we could be much worse off, the firms who bought our goods bought them because they wanted / needed them, why would that change, ?, the gravy train can stop now,
And the EU hasn't filed an audit, because it's books wont balance, what kind of a business is that we were dealing with.
Cilla Ann
24th Jun 2016
8
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I voted to LEAVE not because I am racist because I am not. I wanted our Sovereignty back.My Uncle died at aged 22years fighting for our freedom in WW2 and it seemed as though we had sold him and all others who had fought in WW2 and WW1 up the river.
AnnHar1
24th Jun 2016
6
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Our soldiers fought alongside Ghurkas, Indians, Australians, New Zealanders, French freedom fighters etc etc etc we didn't fight the wars alone ! Oh and without America stepping in albeit late in the day !!We would all now be speaking German!!
VelH23
24th Jun 2016
11
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It might be a bumpy ride but it will be worth it. The EU has gotten too big for it's boots & is still not satisfied. Can any one person tell me what the EU has done for that really is of benefit to them. I have a feeling more Countries will follow where we have chosen to leave.
LaneyP
24th Jun 2016
2
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agreed! this is why I decided to leave, nothing to do with any public scaremongering by leave or stay camps http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/06/22/brexit-unitedstatesofeurope/
Wilf
24th Jun 2016
3
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All the top politicians at the EU and in the UK was to apply some commonsense and this would never have happened
millimenopause
24th Jun 2016
3
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Already this morning, two Leave camp campaigners, an MEP and and MP saying..... lets not rush into things, lets stay calm and the MEP said "Ive have been campagining to leave for 26 years, we won't be able to stop immigration for a while" already back tracking and those who voted out and those who didn't even vote will now see that homegrown policies were mostly to blame for your woes and you think that is going to get any easier? Not one bit. You reap what you sow.
janeblau1
24th Jun 2016
3
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I feel numb, worried and very VERY scared. Where has all this hate come from? I am extremely frightened at the thought of being governed by such bigots and fascists as the politicians who lead the Leave campaign. The pound has hit an all time low against all the major currencies and God knows what will happen once the Stock Market opens.
Just exactly what have those of you who voted Leave got to celebrate?
Sueollie
24th Jun 2016
8
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The pound goes up and down all the time, it'll right itself,
AnnHar1
24th Jun 2016
0
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MorrisandDoris
24th Jun 2016
2
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Bigots and fascists what a load of rubbish you need to get out more and see life ,the racist card was overplayed by the remain camp, it's about sovereignty and protecting our borders and overpopulation .
The rest of Europe will follow our lead and leave.
If most of the young voters had bothered to vote we would still be in the EU ,they are too busy taking selfies ,but we older voters always vote.
MorrisandDoris
24th Jun 2016
4
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It will right itself it always does !
Lindelou
24th Jun 2016
4
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Worry not Jane as i understand your concern but things had to change as the euro doesn't work. On a confident note Barclays are upbeat about it. Do they know something we don't?
Wilf
24th Jun 2016
1
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What have Barclays said Lindelou?
Pam1960
24th Jun 2016
3
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I so agree Janeblau1. I have never felt so much hate being generated. I fear this will only get worse. The younger generation voted to remain. They are the future unfortunately not enough voted. 72% turnout is poor on such a huge decision. At least all non voters will suffer along with the rest of us. The only good thing to come out of this is a win for democracy. Good luck Scotland with your referendum.
Sueollie
24th Jun 2016
3
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It's a better turnout than for an election !
Granny Searle
24th Jun 2016
11
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It's wonderful to have our beautiful country back. We will be so much stronger for it. To make our own decisions from now on and not be told how to run our own country.
AnnHar1
24th Jun 2016
1
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We never lost our country and we are not out yet the vote has done nothing but cause our £ to crash and businesses to plan their exit from our shores . When all the leave voters go on their already planned holidays abroad they will have less to spend as their pounds are now worth far less
Granny Searle
25th Jun 2016
1
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Yes we had lost our country as our very tiny voice in the EU was never heard and more often than not totally ignored. Is that the way you want our country to be run. Yes times are going to be hard but we will not be the only ones coming out, just watch. Once things have settled down and all the scaremongering has stopped then we can begin to build our country back up. The businesses that want to leave are only thinking of lining their own pockets and never about the people they employ, shame on them.
AnnHar1
25th Jun 2016
0
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But those businesses EMPLOY people where will folk work when they are gone ?
Granny Searle
25th Jun 2016
1
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Every business only thinks about itself and never about its employees. They should be ashamed of themselves for leaving our shores because we have left the EU.
What about BHS which closed down. This had nothing to do with us leaving the EU but it's the same principle, they didn't give a hoot about their employees. Our government were told by the EU that they could not step in to save TATA Steel. Do you think that what the right EU decision? I am disgusted at the behaviour of the EU and you should be too.
RetiredJohnB
24th Jun 2016
6
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We will now be able o discover who the real culprits are behind the current state of the nation.
Europe played it's part but not on it's own.
Ang35
24th Jun 2016
1
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I've never been so patriotic about England as now. The ones in Government that have voted STAY IN , now resign and let the ones that wanted us to GET OUR COUNTRY BACK put into practice all what we told them ages ago !
AnnHar1
24th Jun 2016
0
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It's not as simple as that !! It may still never happen !! But the damage that the out vote has done will not go away!!!
millimenopause
24th Jun 2016
4
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And lets add to that all those who are claiming MEP salaries (You know the gravy train all the exiteers went on about) resign their seats today and their salaries stop being paid as of today.
AnnHar1
24th Jun 2016
0
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We are not out yet it will take years yet if it happens at all
Ang35
24th Jun 2016
5
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Well, he must have seen my comment ! Cameron resigning in 3 months !
AnnHar1
24th Jun 2016
0
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He isn't an MEP but Farage is
rosemary
24th Jun 2016
10
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It will possibly be a bit rocky for a short time.... but come on we are English and are made of tough stuff. We have proved that by voting to leave. We can now begin to forge our own future.
Wilf
24th Jun 2016
8
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Yes I agree we Brits are a tough bunch and it will be fine
blossomtoes
24th Jun 2016
1
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A bit disappointed but more worried that Scotland will go for Independence, my home country,I live in England now. I think a government ploy to put the blame on the people when things go wrong.
Wilf
24th Jun 2016
2
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Yes I agree with you. My worry is the Scots will now vote again to leave the UK which is bad news as I love Scotland and it should stay in the UK. I think there will be a bit of uncertainty but we will be fine here in Blighty as we always are. the Brits have a plucky spirit!
Marley444
24th Jun 2016
4
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I'm not sure how well the whole thing has actually been thought through to be honest. I do feel worried for our immediate future. I can't help feeling it was an anti-establishment vote. I always thought we were stronger in Europe but now we must stand together and reunite and make this work!
Jo Kingham
24th Jun 2016
12
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There was going to be chaos not matter what the result as the country is so divided. Such exciting times and wonderful news for the next generation. It will be a rocky road but we will do it, we are in control. How many countries will follow us????
rosemary
24th Jun 2016
0
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Well said no that,s right but we will be stronger for it
Munsterlander
24th Jun 2016
11
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I think the Eu will start to break up Jo as there are a lot of other sceptical countries
Munsterlander
24th Jun 2016
12
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Been up all night watching TV and its amazing as only on last nights news the media said it was a dead cert to stay. Now we have voted to leave. Amazing times. I think we are fine. Look we have been out on our own many times before. The Brits have a fighting spirit and will just get on and have a new start. I think it will be an interesting few weeks and after the initial shock lifts we will just get on with life as normal

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The Royal College of Midwives has faced controversy after calling for the legal limits on abortion...
Should attendance rate be considered when fining parents who take children out of school in term time? Young family having fun together in pool
Should parents whose children attend school regularly be allowed to take their children out of...
Should it be legal to require females to wear high heels at work? High heel woman shoe. Isolated on a white background.
It's still legal in the UK for a company to require female members of staff to wear high heels at...
Do you buy a daily newspaper or do you read the news online? Desktop monitor, office laptop, tablet PC and black glossy touchscreen smartphones with internet web business news on screen and stack of color newspapers isolated on white background
A brand new daily newspaper, the New Day, is set to close on Friday, just nine weeks after it was...
Do you find supermarket offers misleading? SUPERMARKET
Around four in ten of all products sold in supermarkets are on some kind of special offer as...
Have your tried e-cigarettes as an alternative to smoking? Electronic cigarettes isolated on the white background
Doctors have given e-cigarettes the green light in a new landmark report stating smokers should be...
Do you support or oppose junior doctors in all-out strike? picture of doctor hands giving white pills and glass of water
Today is the first day ever that a Junior Doctor's strike will effect cover in Hospital Accident...
Do you rinse your dishes before placing them in the dishwasher? Open dishwasher with clean utensils in it
It's the argument that divides households - and we want to hear your view. Before putting your...
Should Inheritance Tax be abolished? Papers with inheritance tax and testament form.
Currently, inheritance tax is paid on amounts left over £350,000. This tax is payed on income...
Should Britain stay in the EU or is now the time to leave? Eu Flag
The decision for the EU Referendum date has now been made, and David Cameron will...
Should the government be spending tax payers money on EU Leaflets with a one sided view? _89125929_89125928
The government is spending more than £9m on sending a leaflet to every UK household setting out...
Should ‘Exercise Equivalents’ Be Part of Food Labelling? Image of overweight person chased by cupcakes and runs above a scale, isolated on white background
There is a new initiative being investigated which says that food should be labelled with how much...
Do you think that all dogs should be microchipped? Cute puppy
The new law comes into force tomorrow, 6th April 2016, for all dogs in the UK to be microchipped...
Should the Government save the British Steel Industry? Steel sheet manufacturing at steel industrial plant.
The UK steel industry has been thrown into its biggest crisis for a generation after Tata Steel...
Are you concerned about your weight? weigh scale on limit - help ! diet health
According to a report by England's chief medical officer, Dame Sally Davies, obesity is the...
Would you prefer the date of Easter to be fixed? Resurrection of Jesus Christ- Jesus is risen
The Archbishop of Canterbury hopes to end the debate spanning 12 centuries by finally setting an...
Is it ever acceptable for a man to be unfaithful to his wife? White used shirt on a white background with woman's red lipstick on the collar
Edward Fox, a three-time Bafta winner who starred in The Day of the Jackal and Seventies...
Should over 70s have to retake their driving test? Man driving a car and showing thumbs up
Currently, there is no age restriction on when Brits should stop driving with the law only...
Should St George's Day and St David's Day be National Holidays? English and Welsh Relations Concept Image - Flags of England and Wales Jigsaw Puzzle
While St Andrew's Day and St Patrick's Day are national holidays in Scotland and in Northern...
Will you be buying any Cadbury Creme Eggs this year? Cadbury Creme eggs
The Cadbury Creme Egg recipe debate has been in full swing since Christmas!  To many, the...
Should cannabis be legalised for medicinal reasons? bigstock-Close-Up-Dried-Marijuana-Leave-97248254-653x435
It's a debate that continues to court controversy. The Australian parliament passed new...
Will you continue to use scented candles? spa image of frangipani flowers and candles

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It has recently been reported in the Daily Mail and on the BBC News that lives are being put at...
Should London have more Skyscrapers? LONDON, UK - MARCH 4TH 2015: A beautiful dusk-time view of London overlooking the Shard Tower Bridge City Hall River Thames the dome of St. Pauls Cathedral and the tip of Monument on 4th March 2015.
In May 1984 Prince Charles made a passionate speech during the 150th anniversary of the...
Should it be illegal to smack your child? Mother Hitting Young Daughter
Scotland are looking at changing their law so that parents who smack their children could end up...
Ready prepared or whole - how do you buy your vegetables? A group of fresh and mixed vegetables
With a wealth of health information at our fingertips, most of us try to take good care of our...
Should you be fined for missing a GP appointment? doctor checking blood pressure with stethoscope and sphygmomanom
It's thought that £162 million is lost each year through missed GP appointments. A poll of...
Should out-patients and visitors be charged to park at hospitals? Close-up Of Person's Hand Inserting Coin At Parking Meter
Many hospitals around the UK charge out-patients and visitors an hourly fee to use their car park...
Will you be making a romantic gesture on Valentine's Day? Bouquet of red roses with decorative heart and gift box. St Valentine's concept with copy space
With 14th February almost upon us, shops are bursting with heart shaped chocolates and cards...
Are you getting enough sleep? Alarm clock in the middle of the night  isolated on black concept for insomnia
A survey, conducted by YouGov,  polled 4,100 British adults and found that a whopping 46 per...
Would you be prepared to give up your free TV Licence? LONDON UK - 5TH APRIL 2014: The outside of a BBC building in central London
The BBC has announced that it is planning to bring in some "Silver Celebrities" in a campaign to...
Are you drinking more or less alcohol as you get older? Red wine pouring into wine glass, close-up
A recent survey found that the  over-50s are increasingly turning to alcohol to cope with...
Bottled Water or Tap Water? a glass of drinking water blue backgroung
Last year, bottled water overtook carbonated drinks as the world’s best-selling soft drink...
Will you modify your alcohol consumption in light of the new guidance? Red wine glass and glass of light beer
New alcohol limits were issued last week by Chief Medical Officer, Dame Sally Davies, following...
Do you use Blankets or a Duvet on your bed in Winter? White flowers and books on a side table near a bed. Fresh design.
There have been a great many revolutions in our daily habits over the last century: frothy...
Should Prince Charles step aside and allow Prince William to become the next King? LONDON, ENGLAND, UK - JUNE 13 2015: The Royal Family appears on Buckingham Palace balcony during Trooping the Colour ceremony also Prince Georges first appearance on balcony on June 13 2015 in London
Did you watch last night's documentary on ITV, where Ant and Dec got to find out more about what...
Do you take a daily dose of vitamins and minerals? Variety of dietary supplements including capsules of Garlic Evening Primrose Oil; Artichoke Leaf; Olive Leaf; Magnesium and Omega 3 Fish Oil. Selective focus. Taken in daylight.
As the temperature drops and coughs and colds spread, shops are filling up with vitamin tablets...
Are you taking part in Dry January? Red wine pouring into wine glass, close-up
January is becoming increasingly associated with a break from the booze, after the excesses of the...
Is a weight-loss pill the answer to the obesity crisis? Closeup shot of a woman showing blue capsule pill. Female hand holding a medicine. Shallow depth of field with focus on blue capsule pill.
A new weight-loss pill has been developed to trick the stomach into thinking it's full. A fat...
Should women serve on the front line? British soldiers in desert uniform in action
After David Cameron revealed yesterday (20th December) that woman could be allowed to fight in...
Will you be buying a tin of Quality Street this Christmas? quality
Nestle are slowly slimming down their festive tin and hoping we don’t notice! In what might...
Are you dreaming of a white Christmas? Snow globe with Christmas tree
A white Christmas could be a reality this year as forecasters warned of a very cold end to 2015...
Would you take an anti-ageing pill in order to live until 120? Medecine jar with anti aging pills surrounded by nutritious superfoods including avocado pumpkin seeds and berries
There is a report in the Daily Telegraph today which says scientists now believe it is possible...
Are we in danger of diluting our Christmas traditions? Little 7 year old angel visiting a nativity scene reenacted with a doll
Great Britain has become a multi cultural society and as a nation seems happy to embrace and...
Has Christmas become too commercialised? Black Friday And Cyber Monday Sale
In days gone by children were happy with a clementine and some chocolate pennies in their...
Would you support Britain in joining airstrikes against Isil in Syria? MORAYSHIRE, SCOTLAND - 21 JUNE: RAF Tornado jet fighter aircraft overflying its base during routine exercises at Lossiemouth, in Morayshire, Scotland on 21 June 2012.
France, which has launched a series of 'massive' air strikes agains Isil in Syria, has said it...
Will you be sending Christmas cards this year? Merry Christmas greeting card template. Santa Claus and the deer. Vector flat illutration for Christmas design.
Sending Christmas cards is an age old tradition dating back some 172 years.  They give us a...
Which Breakfast TV news programme do you watch? Susanna-Main-V2
Some of us wake up and turn on the TV to see what is happening in the world first thing in the...
Christmas shopping - Online or High Street? Gifts online shopping ordering internet e-commerce shop concept
Black Friday originated in America, and is the Friday after Thanksgiving Day, often seen as the...
Should Police budgets be cut? LONDON, UK - MARCH 12: Two police officers outside Westminster Abbey where Queen Elizabeth II attends the Commonwealth Day ceremony on March 12, 2012 in London, UK.
The Police, like most civil servants are under the focus by the government to make further cuts...
Would you support Junior Doctors if they go on strike? Doctor. Close-up. Doctor hands crossed with stethoscope.
Junior doctors have rejected the Health Secretary's last-minute pay offer and will go ahead with...
Have you tried HRT? Hot flush therapy - over textured blue background.
Today we hear that hundreds of thousands of women should be offered hormone replacement therapy to...
Should drivers over 70 be tested every three years? In car view of senior female driver using the horn in a car
A man whose wife was killed by an elderly driver, who mistook the accelerator for the brake, has...
Should we leave the EU? EU European Union flag backdrop background texture.
David Cameron has set out his demands for European Union reform kicking off a new phase in the...
Do you wear your poppy on the left or the right? Poppy for Poppy Day or Remembrance Day isolated on white background.
Remembrance Sunday is approaching and poppies are on sale to raise money for the Royal British...
Did series 6 Downton live up to your expectations? DowntonAbbey 3
So as the final series ever of Downton Abbey comes to a close, and we bid farewell to the Abbey...
Have Cadbury's bosses gone Fruit & Nuts? SWINDON UK - FEBRUARY 8 2014: Bar of Cadburys Dairy Milk Fruit and Nut chocolate
First they changed the recipe of the Cadbury's Creme Egg earlier this year. Now they are changing...
Do your pets get distressed with the sound of fireworks? Puppy blocking its ears and looking away
As Bonfire Night approaches, many people will be busy buying fireworks and planning displays...
Will you change your online shopping habits? Online Data Security Concept Illustration with Padlock Icons Cyber Background and Circuit Board Elements. Internet Security Technologies.
Earlier this week mobile phone operator Talk Talk had a major security breach, and today we hear...
Do you support a 'sugar tax' to help tackle obesity? mix of sweet cakes donuts and candy with sugar spread and written text in unhealthy nutrition chocolate abuse and addiction concept body and dental care
We have all been made aware this year that sugar is the enemy in our diets, and the excessive...
Would warnings over dementia stop you drinking alcohol? Red wine pouring into wine glass, close-up
We wake up to the latest report that middle-aged people should be warned there is "no safe level...
Should the traditional red cricket ball be changed to yellow? Cricket ball resting on a cricket bat on green grass of cricket pitch
On Saturday 17th October the English cricket team were denied victory in their test game against...
Is the correct use of grammar and spelling important to you? KIEV, UKRAINE - MAY 20, 2013: A social media logotype collection of well-known social network brand's printed on stickers and placed on modern computer keyboard.
There have been many arguments about whether or not spelling and grammar matter in social media...
Should recreational drug use be decriminalised? Close up Dried Cannabis or Marijuana Leaves Used for Psychoactive Drug or Medicine on Top of the Table
The United Nations drug agency is in an embarrassing situation over its drug policy after Sir...
Do you have potatoes with every meal? Farm fresh baby potatoes displayed on a hessian sack on a rustic wooden table at farmers market a healthy nutritious root vegetable popular in vegetarian and vegan cuisine
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A study looking at the nation’s relationship with the classic spud has found that Brits would...
Are you in agreement with the ban of smoking in cars with children? hand of the car driver with cigarette closeup
A new law against smoking in cars carrying children will be introduced in England and Wales...
Are you happy to pay for your shopping bags? Collection of various plastic bags isolated on white
Did you know that from Monday 5 October 2015 it will become compulsory for many shops in England...
How do you make the perfect cup of tea? Serving Cup Of Tea With Milk.
In Britain we drink a staggering 165 million cups of tea per day, or 60.2 billion a year, and...
Are you bothered by online advertising? Advertising concept: magnifying optical glass with words Advertising on digital background, 3d render
Most websites nowadays feature adverts, some are simple banners while others are 'trackers' that...
Would you like to see the railways re-nationalised? LIVERPOOL, UK - JUNE 11, 2015 - Virgin Class 390 train alongside platform seven in Lime Street Railway Station Liverpool Merseyside England UK Western Europe, June 11, 2015.
Jeremy Corbyn has spoken of re-nationalising the UK’s railways, and the case for national...
Do you like or dislike Facebook's plan for a new 'Dislike' button? MOSCOW, RUSSIA - FEBRUARY 14, 2015: Facebook like logo for e-business, web sites, mobile applications, banners, corporate brochures, book covers, etc on white background
Facebook is to add a "dislike" button to its social network, founder Mark Zuckerberg has said...
Do you find terms of endearment such as 'love' and 'darling' patronising? a nurse home care visits a patient
A care home in Yorkshire has been marked down by inspectors as potentially uncaring because staff...
Do you have your milk delivered by a Milkman? milk bottles standing on a doorstep after delivery
Do you remember that wonderful clinking sound of the milk bottles arriving and the ubiquitous...
Should terminally ill patients have the right to die? Dead patient in the hospital corridor. The light at he end of corridor
MPs are due to debate the ethically fraught issue in the House of Commons for the first time in 20...
Is modern technology making you smarter? Mobile devices
Recent research has shown that middle-aged brains are getting smarter partly because of the...
Who should elect members of the House of Lords? imgo-2
David Cameron has been heavily criticised today for appointing 45 new members to the House of...
Do you sleep with a snorer? Portrait Of Senior Angry Woman Awaken By Her Husband Snoring
Broken nights of sleep due to sharing a bed with someone who snores, is proving to be an issue for...
Should Britain agree to take more refugees? Concept sign of how the EU turns its back on refugees
With the refugee crisis escalating and worsening each day in front of our eyes on the television...
Should women only carriages be introduced on trains at night? LONDON UK - November 20: Central line Liverpool Street tube station platform in London UK - November 20 2011; Metro train approaching Liverpool Street station with passengers waiting on platform
Labour leadership contender Jeremy Corbyn has said he would consider introducing women-only...
Is the Labour leadership election process flawed? LONDON UK - MAY 7TH 2015: The Labour Party on a UK Ballot Paperfor a General Election on 7th May 2015.
There are questions being raised about the integrity of the Labour leadership contest. It is...
Is it wrong to spend your kids’ inheritance? Nest eggs
It’s the age-old inheritance debate. Should you spend your hard earned cash enjoying your golden...
Should e-cigs be prescribed on the NHS? one electronic cigarette with a tobacco cigarette (3d render)
Health officials have today given their backing to the use of e-cigarettes, claiming the devices...
Are you financially stable? Baby Boomers Corkboard Word Concept with great terms such as generation wealth retirement and more.
A report by eight charities including Age UK and the Alzheimer’s Society have said that it is a...
Are you increasingly shopping online? mobile shopping concept  -  virtual shop on phone screen with credit cards
Recent statistics indicate that the number of people shopping on the high street is falling by 1...
Would you be willing to pay more for milk? Grazing black and white Holstein-Friesian dairy cows in a sunlit pasture against a blue sky.
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Earlier this week some dairy farmers blockaded the supermarket Morrison's distribution centres and...
Do you usually leave a tip in a restaurant? Tip and bill on a gray restaurant table
A survey in holiday hotspots around the world has found that the British are the second meanest...
Do you get enough sleep? Man lying on the bed with alarm clock.
The government is to launch a campaign to try and persuade middle aged people to sleep more as...
Are the over 50s more caring than younger age groups? take care of old mother - young female hand giving a red heart to old hand of a mother
A recent survey by Yours Magazine, has highlighted that people over 50 have got big hearts...
Does the BBC favour the younger viewer? use the remote control to change channels on Television
Ian lavender who played Private Frank Pike, the young mollycoddled member in the comedy Dads...
Are you too old for selfies? couple of dogs in love very close together lying on grass taking a selfie
Contrary to popular opinion, social media clearly have an important role to play for us as we get...
Should the House of Lords be reformed? Houses of Parliament and Big Ben in Westminster, London.
With yet another embarrassing social blunder by one of the UK's Parliamentarians, Lord Sewel...
Should there be a legal age limit for leaving a child home alone? 8 years old child watching tv laying down on a white carpet at home alone
If there was a one-size-fits-all guide to parenting we would all have been perfect and known what...
Should smoking be banned on British beaches? Brighton United Kingdom - April 16 2012: Tourists on the beach enjoying a Spring day at Brighton on the south coast of England.
Brighton Beach could become the first beach in Britain to ban smoking. The city council will vote...
Should parents be fined for taking term-time holidays? Three smiling children posing on a beach wearing snorkeling equipment.
Mums and dads who take their children out of school early to get a cheaper deal abroad face a £60...
Would you welcome your GP surgery being opened 7 days a week? doctor
There is much debate going on about proposals for GP surgeries to be open 7 days a week...
Can your child or grandchild afford to go to university without your help? Oxford, England
With the increased university fees, and the cost of accommodation whilst living away from home not...
Is taxation the answer or is awareness going to reduce our sugar consumption? Soft drinks with ice being poured against a bright white background
The British Medical Association is advising that sugary drinks should be taxed at 20 per cent to...
Do you think charities are too aggressive when it comes to raising money? a conceptual image to illustrate talking on the phone, cell phones, wireless/cordless phones, telecommunications, technology, business and personal communications, etc.
Four of Britain's best-known charities are facing serious allegations of pursuing vulnerable...
Do your grown-up Children owe you money? Breaking The Bank
Nowadays, with the cost of living, credit cards and high interest rates on loans, the bank of mum...
Is TV a source of inspiration or sedation? Young Couple Sitting On Couch Watching Cookery Show
The television, part of the household for over half a century, is often vilified in the press as...
Do you call your midday meal lunch or dinner? salmon fillet with vegetables and basil on a plate
We all know how confusing the English language is, and coupled with regional variations it is...
Do you check customer reviews before buying something online? KIEV UKRAINE - MAY 16 2014: Man in a car planning a trip using Tripadvisor app on Apple iPhone 5S. Tripadvisor is a travel guide source providing reviews photos and advice for hotels and vacations.
New research shows more than half of us consult online reviews and customer feedback before buying...
Is your dog a picky eater? Cute Bichon Havanese puppy dog is lying beside a red bowl of dog food and looking at camera - isolated on white background
There are two kinds of dogs. The first kind lives to eat. They will devour anything you put in...
Will you be reading Grey this summer? Books-Fifty Shades of Grey-1
Fifty Shades of Grey as told by Christian Grey, is published today, 18th June, which...
When the odds are decreased, will you continue to do the Lottery? LONDON, UK - APRIL 07: Close up of blue National lottery sign in front of shop, showing its crossed fingers logo. On 07 April 2015.
National Lottery operator Camelot are set to make changes to the in the Lotto game from this...
Is Chris Evans a suitable replacement presenter for Top Gear? 670x377Image
It has been confirmed that Jeremy Clarkson has been sacked as Top Gear presenter after a BBC...
Should Handstands and Cartwheels be banned in school playgrounds? An Illustration of Children Playing in the Fields
Handstands and cartwheels have been banned during break times at a primary school in Devon after...
Should ear-piercing be banned for babies? child, happiness and people concept - adorable baby
There is a petition which has already been signed by over 36,000 people, asking the Children's...
Are you a blood donor? blood_types
It's National Blood week in the UK and NHS Blood and Transplant are launching a new campaign to...
Does courtesy on the road still exist? Road Rage
Have you noticed a slow eradication of basic courtesies amongst many road users? Just think back...
Is the balance right between toddlers social interaction and technology engagement? Little sweet child plays with computer tablet on a white background. Learning toys and early development.
Having just returned from a holiday abroad, it struck me how many parents provide technology in...
Have you drawn up a Will yet? Last Will And Testament
Did you know that more than 60% of adults in the UK have not drawn up a will? It isn't the...
Should the World Cup be held in Qatar in 2022? Football 2022 Design With Qatar Flag
Qatar is hosting the football World Cup in 2022 but ever since it was awarded the prestigious...
Would you consider Botox® injections? Removing Wrinkles
Some two million Botox ® treatments have now been carried out in Europe, making Botox ®...
Do you prefer Cadbury's Roses to be 'twist' or 'flow wrap'? ROSES
Since before the Second World War Cadbury's Roses have had twist foil wrappers  – but from...
Should National Service be reintroduced in the UK? Marching Marines
The last person was called up for National Service in the UK in 1960. Ever since then, there...
Do you believe what manufacturers say on packaging? Set Of Suntan Cream
It has just been announced that some  leading sun cream brands are not delivering the product...
Have you switched energy supplier? Save Energy Shows Power Powered And Savings
Common myths and misconceptions are holding customers back from getting better deals on their gas...
Is it right for the EU to impose refugee quotas on the UK? Humanitarian food for poor children in refugee camp
The EU is planning to change its legislation for a mandatory migrant quota system which will mean...
Do you iron your bed sheets? Close Up Of Iron Ironing Wrinkled Cotton Linen
There's nothing like getting into a hotel bed with  clean, crisp linen even though it may not be...
Would calorific information on alcoholic drinks affect your consumption? a variety of alcoholic drinks
There is about to be a vote in the  European Parliament to determine whether calorie labels...
Do you take notice of dietary and medical advice regarding healthy eating? Food pyramid
Are you fed up to the back teeth with the latest medical or dietary advice on eating? Every...
Does making new friends get easier or more difficult as you get older? Multiethnic Group of Hands Holding Letter Friends
Making friends.... do you think it gets easier as you get older, or more difficult? 'Will you...
Do you use anti wrinkle cream? Skin Care. Moisturizing Cream In Female Hands
In years gone by,  when it came to beauty products,  our grandmothers used Pond's cold cream...
Is 65 too old to become a mother again? Baby foot in mother hand. Tiny Newborn Baby's foot on female han
A German woman is set to become world's oldest mother of quadruplets. The 65-year-old Berlin...
Do you think Camilla should be crowned queen? CAMILLA
As the Duke and Duchess of Cornwall   celebrate their 10th wedding anniversary today, has Camilla...
Do you find beards attractive? Portrait Of A Brutal Bearded Man With Tattoos
Men might be gro