Should Punch and Judy be banned at public events?

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Punch and Judy shows have been going for 350 years after one was first performed at Covent Garden in London in 1662.

They reached their peak in the 1960s on beaches throughout the UK,  but interest soon dropped off when families abandoned ‘bucket and spade’ holidays in favour of package trips abroad.

The original story of Mr Punch and his wife Judy originated in 1832 and while it is considered a children’s entertainment it is actually quite a violent story, in much the same way as Tom and Jerry cartoons are.

In more recent years Punch and Judy shows have faced a new threat in the form of political correctness campaigners.

In 2004 Bodmin council in Cornwall banned a Punch and Judy show following complaints that it promoted domestic violence.

Some performers have fought back by introducing a health and safety official into the show to play the villain.

With only a handful of the traditional beach performances still on offer in the UK, is it time for curtains for Punch and Judy?

What are your views?  Did you watch Punch & Judy as a child?  Have you taken your own children or grandchildren to a show? Do you think that Punch and Judy shows should continue in their present form? Or do you think it is time to say ‘that’s not the way to do it’ and give it the chop!?

Should Punch and Judy be banned at public events?

305 people have already voted, what's your opinion? Yes - it promotes domestic violence No - it's political correctness gone mad!

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iamised
30th Sep 2016
0
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Punch and Judy should stay. I have happy memories of watching the show. There are worse things on the television then Punch and Judy.
lizfid3
18th Sep 2016
1
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Political correctness gone haywire again. Will these people please find something useful to do with their time instead of creating havoc every time they open their politically correct mouths.
GrannyJack
3rd Sep 2016
3
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To ban Punch and Judy is a world gone mad it's a bit of fun and didn't turn us to domestic violence
sukiesue
24th Aug 2016
1
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As a young girl living in Bournemouth, my sister and I loved the Punch and Judy show on the beach. My memory is just laughing so much. Good fun. "That's the way to do it!"
Issy
23rd Aug 2016
1
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Utter nonsense let children enjoy the fun of a puppet show this is PC gone mad to ban things like this it never did any harm to my children or any of my friends children
yahsue
20th Aug 2016
4
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Personally, I'm not a fan! However its just a puppet show and any shows I've passed by have always been well attended by youngsters laughing and yelling at the antics.
Far more harm is being done by letting youngsters become engrossed in mindless and often very violent, computer games which appear to be more lifelike and realistic to them.
Terrysoldgal
20th Aug 2016
1
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Punch and Judy shows are really just a bit fun and should be treated as such. Not to be taken too seriously and light entertainment to be shared by the whole family.
djohn1
19th Aug 2016
1
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People should realise that comedy ( or some of it ) is amusing and children should not be mollycoddled. Political Corrective is a good thing if put in the right context that stops people enjoying themselves
anf
19th Aug 2016
4
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Go to Llandudno. Best Punch and Judy I've seen. Children love it.
(so do I at 76)
LizzieClack
19th Aug 2016
0
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Madness, great seaside entertainment for kids!
celtwitch
17th Aug 2016
2
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I'm glad that the Flowerpot Men were banned,the things they did to that poor Weed doesn't bear thinking about, the dirty rotters.

Sooty, Sweep and Sue, the eternal threesome,?
Our children's minds have been irreparably damaged by the smut that the BBC churns out. I'm going to refuse to buy a licence in protest.
Lionel
16th Aug 2016
2
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Ah, now here we have a teaser, if I'm not mistaken. Either this qiestion is about rather English seaside pleasure, Punch and Judy, or it's about the wider issue of the state control of our lives. Nice one Sally, thank you.

I'll take the latter place in this rather beguilging question since Punch and Judy, of itself, is neither here nor there. But this heavy hand does illuminate a darker place inhabited by our Civil Servants - so called guardians of the morality of the nation. Mmmm. I'd question that!

State control of elements of this nation began with Lloyd George in the 1914/1918 war. Then it was necessary, but after the end of that war, these controls were not relinquished. Of necessity, it must be said, Churchill took more controls over the population, control over many matters in the early days of the Second World War. Again, these control were never relinqished. State control had begun, but with avengence.

Today state control affects every area of our lives; it's insidiious, we barely notice it, so accustomed have we become to someone else knowing better than we do! But who are these people; these people, so caring of us? What are their qualifications, their experience of life, salaries and more impprtant perhaps, what are their real motives? Did we ever vote for them? No. And yet these faceless people shape the lives we lead.

Of a sudden a game of conkers is illegal, we may not have a firework party and Christmas is now a Winterfest. There's much more, so much more but the point is made.

Shutting down Punch and Judy is but a small symptom of a much deeper and virulent disease in our society. Unlike evidence based medicine (sorry jeanmark) we must go beyond the symptom and kill the root.

What is the root?

PC.

Jeanmark, I think you would agree we have seldom been at odds on this forum, the only place we've ever met. And I have written here my deep and abiding respect for you as a very long serving nurse. That does not change. But your post below betrays you. Did you need to apologise to cross-dressers? I'm left a little bewildered; it's quite unlike you.
celtwitch
17th Aug 2016
0
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Good grief Leo, you can certainly waffle, can't you?
Lionel
17th Aug 2016
1
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Celt, I must thank you. Celt, these last weeks you reminded me of someone but I just couldn't place that person. But, these last days I have been reading again in the Book of Proverbs, written about three thousand years ago, mostly by King Solomon.

And there you are! The person you portray yourself as, well, it is there, described almost three thousand years ago! And that with some warnings and a few words about that person's end.

So I thank you Celt, for showing me that book, the Bible, is as up to date as the day it was written.

Well done!
jeanmark
17th Aug 2016
1
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Sorry Lionel, it was written as an afterthought as I was sure someone would object. As you are aware I do not judge peoples lifestyle choices but I made an assumption there would be someone out there who would judge what I had written.

I wouldn't disagree with the body of what you have written however as to the 'conker' issue, the HSE made it clear it was not a H&S issue, just schools being over cautious and I am aware of at least 1 school sued by a parent after 'little Jonny' was hit whilst playing conkers!
Lionel
17th Aug 2016
2
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Jeanmark, that paragraph was a little tongue in cheek; but that is difficult to portray on a forum. None the less, I thank you for your reply. It is appreciated.

More to the underlying point I was getting at above, wouldn't it be easier for us all if we lightened up a little? By that I mean we're all to serious about ourselves, so many are trying to be special cases, individuals. The all pervading ME gets in the way of everything.

According to a post you made on a thread about M & S a few weeks ago, I'm just an inch taller; add to that duck's disease and the fact I'm a Jew, although a Christian by conviction. Jeanmark, I think you'll see there's much for me to laugh about and I've heard just about every joke possible, sometimes delivered in rancour, and over the years have learned to laugh at myself. If ever you've heard a Jewish joke it was probably written by a Jew. We laugh at ourselves. Self deprecation.

What does that do for us? Well, if one may laugh at oneself, it keeps the 'self' in check. We're no longer a special case. The ego is suppressed.

Wouldn't that be a better way forward?
jeanmark
18th Aug 2016
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I fully agree that at times we need to laugh at ourselves and not take life too serious and having nursed for so many years I had to develop a 'warped' sense of humour to survive. As for height, I was told by my grandfather that God only had so much good, he then filled up with bad - guess that makes you and I pretty special (just to ensure my ego isn't suppressed)!
Lionel
18th Aug 2016
1
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That last phrase is a nice twist. Enjoyed it a lot.
Alicia
16th Aug 2016
3
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No, it is harmless entertainment.
Janet P
16th Aug 2016
3
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I am very old now, but as kids, my brother and sister and me, used to run to the beach to watch Punch and Judy, never once did we come home and fight each other, or even relate it to our mum and dad, they where puppets,,,,,,,to many do gooders around spoiling everything, and even putting bad ides into childrens heads.......let it stay
jeanmark
16th Aug 2016
5
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I agree with the comments, it's political correctness gone mad. They will be banning pantomimes next - they often have men dressed as women and women dressed as men so that isn't suitable for family entertainment as children will be influenced in some way! No offence to anyone who is a cross-dresser.
Wilf
16th Aug 2016
7
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I agree with you it is political correctness gone mad and most of the votes here seem to indicate that. Yes pantomines, cartoons etc etc all will be banned and we will just have a bland existence!
RetiredJohnB
16th Aug 2016
7
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The phrase "Get a life" comes to mind.
I would like to think I had better things to do than complain about Punch and Judy.
Carol27
16th Aug 2016
6
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I have two Grand children, aged 14 & almost 16, both love Punch & Judy. The 16 year old runs to watch it if he sees it on a beach. He also loves Tom & Jerry !

Last year Punch & Judy was on at a local event but the violence, hitting the croc with sausages and the policeman with a truncheon, had been removed so as not to scare the kids, my two grandkids still talk about how silly that was.
JohnHerb
16th Aug 2016
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I am surprised they are still going. All the kids are interested in is games on ipads and phones. Punch and Judy is pretty lame apart from the very youngest children
Munsterlander
16th Aug 2016
8
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It is political correctness gone mad! I used to love this as a child and also Tom & Jerry was my absolute favourite. I just don't get it our TVs are inundated with violence, there are violent video and internet games like Call of Duty and someone wants to ban a puppet show that's been going for probably a few hundred years. We really need to get a grip in this country. What would Winston Churchill have thought about this? I can only imagine. Get a backbone GB!

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