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Would you support a delay to the final EU departure?

Prime Minister Theresa May told EU leaders she was ready to consider an extension of the transition period following Brexit.

Theresa May was facing a backlash from Brexiteers after indicating she is ready to consider extending Britain’s transition out of the EU for a further year, to the end of 2021.

The Prime Minister told a crunch European Council summit in Brussels that she was “ready to consider” the extension floated by EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier to give time to resolve the intractable problem of the Irish border.

If agreed, the change would mean the UK remaining within the single market and customs union and subject to EU rules and regulations for almost three years after the official date of Brexit in March 2019, and more than five years after the referendum vote to Leave.

Furious Brexiteers said that the move would delay yet further the moment when the UK could sign new trade deals around the world, and would cost taxpayers billions of pounds in additional contributions to the EU.

Former Ukip leader Nigel Farage said that it would delay full withdrawal almost until the general election scheduled for May 2022 and “may mean we never leave at all”.

Leaders of the 27 remaining EU states ditched proposals for a special Brexit summit in November, after chief negotiator Michel Barnier told them he needed “much more time” to find a way to avoid a hard border in Ireland.

With just 160 days to go to the official date of Brexit, Mrs May urged the EU27 to find a “creative” way out of the current dilemma.

What are your views? Do you think a delay is a sensible option? Do you have any confidence in the Brexit process? Will extra time have a positive or negative effect?

Would you support a delay to final EU departure?

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Lardbucket80
5th Feb 2019
1
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We voted to leave the EU, pathetic treacherous MP's are taking their time doing this about time we got rid of a lot of them, they are frightened they will miss the gravy train if we leave the EU.
DavidE1
25th Jan 2019
2
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The EU is the Titanic- leave or stay there is a trillion € in unpaid debt that is off the books but the ECB will hold all member states accountable. Politically it is not much of a union and in the 21stcentury such political alliances are not needed for commerce. Capitalism finds a way. Yes I was an abstainer but now I see disaster ahead for Europe, and the monetary experiment called the Euro. We should just leave, stop buying wretched German cars. Andstop pretending the EU member states actually obey the EU laws. They do not. Fishing rights, agriculture, fake engine emmissions, property and human rights? Cross the channel and you're in the 18th century.Spain still throws donkeys off a tower,and has bull fighting. France eats foods we class as illegal,and who the heck knows about the junior states?
viking
26th Jan 2019
2
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Quite agree with you. We are still not sure or the hidden agenda which is being softly put in place by Germany. A lot of the Remoaners were too young to remember the great Italian wine lake swindle which took place fairly early on in the reign of the EEC, and that seems to have set the scene ever since.
There is no freedom of information applicable to the EEC and as for having the "books" audited.................just forget that.
Lifemask
24th Jan 2019
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I think many people now realise that Brexit is much more complicated than we were told originally. Now that we know how many companies are moving abroad and how many leading Brexiteers are planning their futures away from Britain, it’s time to have a rational and realistic look at our options and put them before the country in a peoples’ vote.
Lardbucket80
5th Feb 2019
1
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When we have left and things have picked up they will soon be back.
Lifemask
5th Feb 2019
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I don’t think so!
Brianden
18th Jan 2019
2
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The country voted to leave the EU in June 2016 and 9 months later the government decided to present artical 50, with an exit date of March 29th 2019, and should stick with that date.
viking
18th Jan 2019
0
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Having just watched the TV programme on Goebbels and how he used the "repeatative technique" to indoctrinate the German people towards the Nazi regime prior to and during WW2. Suddenly became aware that the same "repeatative technique" is being used again by all parties in the Brexit dispute to indoctrinate the UK into thinking that a no deal exit would be a disaster and the end of this country.
What goes around comes around !!.
viking
11th Jan 2019
1
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The shower that sit in the House of Commons have shown themselves up in their true light, and in someways it is a revelation about so called democracy.
These elected masters of double talk do not have the interests of the country at heart, but are really trying hard for self advancement.
Take that, with the non negotiable EEC, and the result is mayhem.
Any of our readers ever tried to negotiate with 27 people who don't even speak the same language ??? Told you so !!!
Maureen
11th Jan 2019
1
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May has already wasted two years of our life and left us in this impossible position when everything should have been done and dusted by now. The only good thing that has come out it is we have been able to watch each MP show their True Colours. There are so many bent disloyal MPs the trouble is there is only two I could Truly name as being Honest and Democratic Who could take us out of this quagmire she along with to many others who are in for their own gains. Who are they well First and way beyond anyone else with the brains and who is the perfect Gentleman Jacob Rees- Mogg MP and as a side kick Boris Johnson MP. But will my wishes come True ?????
ColinM1
6th Jan 2019
1
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Madam Mayhem has really blown it Totally fails to realise her Irish border suggestions are poisonous not only to the two faced DUP but also to the Scots - part of the so called Union of equals
ColinM1
28th Dec 2018
4
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Do not forget that the flawed Referendum which hoodwinked so many was advisory and not a definitive statement of public opinion . The political shenanigans of Madame Mayhem in ignoring the sovereign right of Parliament after suffering three defeats in one day is contemptable . Her totally illogical approach to the Irish issue blows a large hole in what she envisages a Britain outwith the EU to be !Thanks to sensible action by cross party Scottish politicians, The European Court of Justice has ruled that Britain can unilaterally cancel Brexit, without getting the permission of other EU countries first. Lets get cracking and return to sensibility and kick Brexit into touch !
Wilf
28th Dec 2018
3
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I think you are right Colin. Certain parts of Brexit were a sensible idea but it looks like the economy could tank and I for one do not want to be even poorer than we are are!
lizfid3
6th Dec 2018
1
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We have already waited too long. Then there has to be a transition period? Let's just pack up and go. We're good enough to do it.
shrew1742
3rd Dec 2018
2
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Believe you me this is going to be 'OUR LAST CHANCE EVER' to be rid of these unelected, 'FEDERAL EUROPE' seeking politicians. They will not be happy until all EU member countries come under the umbrella of a solitary 'EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT', with a 'EUROPEAN ARMY' and the Euro as the only currency. Where they hold all the cards, and individual parliaments of each country have few 'meaningful' powers at all. Some countries are struggling as it is with their economies (Greece, Italy & Spain) so what happens to the EU if - as seems likely - they implode ?? It just doesn't bear thinking about, so let's just get out and go it alone with the WTO. The EU needs the UK just as much as the UK needs the EU so all this scaremongering doesn't wash with me. I would rather take the short term pain (a few years maybe) for a long term gain. I don't want to be European I want to be British, and all you pessimists who think that the UK will crumble if we leave should think again. The Brits are not associated with 'a bulldog spirit' for no reason. I just hope the final agreement is a clean break and does not tie us in to their rules and regulations for another two years, and a 'final' decision will be decided upon at a date further down the line. If that happens I fear our government will never ever make the 'COMPLETE BREXIT'. I am now expecting a 'rude battering' from remainers, when all I am doing is stating my opinion. Ah well !!!
Wilf
3rd Dec 2018
3
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It is a free country and hopefully will always be!
JT214
7th Dec 2018
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Brilliant, I'm with you all the way.
Maureen
11th Jan 2019
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No Good for you if we had more who would Stand Up say what is right and not worry about what the Remainers say or think they should Stop and Read the Facts as they are Before it’s to Late.
Yodama
24th Nov 2018
2
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Moving swiftly on.... and we must move swiftly on, disentangle ourselves from this outrageous body the EU.
The EU's cracks are starting to show and it is exposing itself as it truly is, corrupted, greedy and bloated power hungry machine.

Angela Merkel and best buddy Macron are calling for an EU army to counteract USA's strength and weaponry?????

She was booed for this statement at the EU conference this month.
By the by, Brussels applauded this idea.

America as a member of NATO, pays vast amounts of money into NATO
Nato was put in place to prevent wars such as those that attempted to decimate the British and bring them to subservience along with other countries.
One of it's other mandates was to prevent Germany from ever having the opportunity to become militarily dominant. in the world again.

Tony Blair ( as much as I dislike the man) stated that " the EU today is no longer about peace, it is about power."

Snowflakes who were never "there" or lived through the misery are not seeing the looming shadow on the wall.
Subservient Britain by hook or by crook!

Good deal or no deal, we must leave post- haste.
viking
22nd Nov 2018
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Spain once more on the warpath over Gibraltar again the height of hypocrasy. Gib signed over by the Spanish, paper documentation all in place with a proper treaty.
Spanish occupation of Ceuta [apiece of land in Morocco] once taken over as outlet from the then Spanish Sahara. No treaty there.
So stop winghing Spain and don't be so hypocritical.
DerekJ9
22nd Nov 2018
2
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I knew what I was voting for , OUT means OUT end of
Swanleyjon
22nd Nov 2018
4
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This has dragged on for too long already. The EU clearly do not want us to leave.Any further delay,will be in their interests,hoping for a second referendum,and a reversal of the original decision to leave.
viking
19th Nov 2018
1
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The Irish border and Spain/ Gibraltar are just political ploys employed by the EEC.
Two Army Commanders have stated in the past that the Irish border is porus. Even before the UK joined the EEC the two main roads across the border were not used by those who carried out devious activities using many of the smaller roads which are impossible to monitor.Backstop ? really??
Swanleyjon
22nd Nov 2018
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I agree with you,and think the EU are making mischief. They have not acted in good faith in these ‘negotiations ‘ I want to see us leave ASAP,and if the EU do not change their attitude,leave with no deal.

No deal is far from ideal,but may be the only way forward.
ColinM1
17th Nov 2018
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Take back control of " our country " ?? Darkstar should realise that the current cabal that is in charge at Westminster is a narrow self centred right wing clique who care little else but line their own pockets . They have no conception of the nature of a political union - hav e not a clue re the significance of the Irish border and totally forget that Scotland is an equal partner where the whole Brexit was kicked into touch eons ago !
Darkstar
15th Nov 2018
2
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No. Get out now, and take back control of our country.
Onecott
13th Nov 2018
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Another vote should be taken based on facts not emotion.
biker babe
11th Nov 2018
0
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No, like rats deserting a sinking ship, best get out now,!
ColinM1
7th Nov 2018
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Delay ? Why not just bin the whole flawed idea . Majority of people ( 52 % ) wish to remain . People were conned by a bunch of self centred indivuals who misled and cheated from day one ! Britain comprises four countries and my country unanimously voted in all of its Regions to remain . Possible consequences are rather obvious !
Darkstar
4th Nov 2018
3
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NO. Just get on with it, the vote was for an end to the customs union and EU trade deal. As Cameron said it would be one vote and what the people said would be carried out.

To many snouts in the trough.
Duncan59
1st Nov 2018
3
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The whole process has been marked by incompetence and personal ambition, a delay might help both parties reach a beneficial agreement.
AndreanaK
31st Oct 2018
4
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The EU leaders are doing the same to Theressa May as they did with David Cameron, they are laughing behind her back making her look stupid excluding her from meetings even though we are still paying our dues. I think we have been made fools of long enough time to get out and get on with the real job she is paid to do.
Roof Top Crow
3rd Nov 2018
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Why would they laugh at the PM behind her back, why would they try to make a fool of her.?? The EU negotiators would not gain anything by trying to humiliate the UK.

This unfounded opinion of the EU negotiators probably comes from one of those silly headlines The Daily Express churns out.

The UK made the decision to withdraw from EU membership. The remaining 27 EU countries know this decision by the UK will cost them all billions of Euros in direct costs. Holland, France, Belgium, Ireland and Germany will feel the brunt of these costs. The European country that will pay the highest cost will be the UK.

Successful negotiations are vital for the future of the UK. So far they have been very slow. The fault lies entirely with the UK and it is only in the past weeks that the UK negotiating team have shown any sense of urgency.

These negotiations will set in place the future of the UK for years to come and if they need more time, then they should be given more time.
PercyVere
5th Nov 2018
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I think you are wrong to suggest we will pay a bigger price than the EU when the import/export balance is taken into consideration.

As far as Ireland is concerned, the "hard border" is just an EU construct designed to extend our membership of the EU and it's failing. It's totally unnecessary because trade across the border can be monitored electronically with emailed manifests, bar coding on containers, ANPR, etc, or by installing a system like that used at Felixstowe, where containers from all over the world pass in and out of the port in minutes.
viking
5th Nov 2018
2
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They relish the opportunity to humiliate the UK. It is regarded as a regular pastime, as the UK is seen as a "loose cannon". Although the UK saved their skins in WW2 "depending on your point of view" the UK is a country looked upon as habouring trouble makers but has had to be tolerated because it is bound into the EEC system.
However it has now dawned upon the various suppliants in the EEC, that they face a gaping hole in their accounts, now that the eccentric country is bidding good bye.
Roof Top Crow
5th Nov 2018
1
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The leave campaigners and the remain campaigners agree that leaving the EU will cost the UK more than other countries in Europe.

The difference is that the leave campaigners say it will be back to neutral in just a few years, but no timescale has been forecast. The remain campaigners say it will take many years to get back to neutral but is impossible to forecast when that will happen.

ANPR technology is very very limited in its scope, to make it work you would need a technology system that held data on every vehicle within the EU, and that is years away.

The owners and managers of Felixstowe, are absolutely against the UK leaving the EU. They do not have the technology and people to manage the system you suggest.

Felixstowe manages containers. Within the containers there are non-perishable dry goods from the EU and other parts of the world.

Fresh food and just in time products come through Dover. The Port of Dover does not have the technology or people to manage an active and day to day control and checking system.
PercyVere
6th Nov 2018
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Fresh food aside, just-in-time products are not a problem at all. There is nothing at all in the Lean Manufacturing handbooks that goes against setting up buffer stocks close to the point of use. These buffer stocks can be replenished as and when necessary without the need to rush things through "the system".
Roof Top Crow
7th Nov 2018
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Not sure I want to dismiss the fresh food so causally.
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The problem with "buffer stocks" is that they need warehousing space. I believe that in the commercial property world they call the warehousing sector "Big Sheds".

In the Big Shed sector there is a huge problem with availability. Everything in this sector is being snapped up by the on line industry giants such as Amazon, John Lewis, PC World and many others..
PercyVere
7th Nov 2018
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I wasn't dismissing fresh food casually or otherwise; I was setting it aside as it is a special case.

If you look around at many of the industrial estates in the UK, I'm sure you'll find many "sheds" that are big enough to use for buffer stocks. As it happens, companies like Homebase and B&Q are reducing the number of outlets because of customer decline.
Roof Top Crow
30th Oct 2018
2
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Negotiating commercially is difficult and does not stop when an agreement is reached. Both sides try to ensure that the original terms are adhered to and both sides try to change and improve the agreement as they go along. Add a political objective to the negotiations and it becomes even more complex.

The comparison with Greece is wrong. Greece needed bailing out and they had to accept whatever the EU decided to offer them.

The UK is to some extent negotiating from a position of strength and it is in both sides interest to agree on a deal.

But remember these negotiations only take us to March 29th 2019.

Assuming a departure agreement is signed and we do not crash out of the EU on 29th March 2019 that is not the end.

We will then start the “transition period”. Transition discussions could last 2 years, 3 years or even longer as we negotiate our agreement with the EU.
Jean177
30th Oct 2018
1
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Just get on with it :the more we dither and ask for extra time just prolongs the final outcome .Teresa May has had ample time to put our case , buying more time is wasting time .
viking
30th Oct 2018
3
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If any of our readers have any experience of negotiating, you will know that the tough ones go back and forth. However when trying to carry out normal ones with this vipers nest then anything is possible or not.
As the former Greek finance minister remarked after being assulted by the EEC -" it does not negotiate it only dictates."
No wonder it is taking so long with this sort of attitude.
Lionel
29th Oct 2018
2
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It's time for a Churchill not a May.
NorthernChris
1st Jan 2019
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Well said, I agree. Churchill was fiercely pro-European. Despite him being a generally obnoxious bigoted drunk, I agree with his stance on being part of Europe.

As Churchill said, "I look forward to a United States of Europe, in which the barriers between the nations will be greatly minimised and unrestricted travel will be possible".
bet
28th Oct 2018
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budget day tomorrow and Philip Hammond does not know what is going to happen when we leave the European union
if the government don't know why should we accept the
terms which no one know what will become of the united kingdom we will be a sitting target for invasion from other countries just look around the world lots of disharmony.
sparrer
27th Oct 2018
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I don't agree with brexit but in my humble opinion think it's too late to delay, let's just get it over with now and we'll just have to sort out the mess when we're on our own. Also a delay would possibly incur more £billions, we can't afford what's been taken from our pockets now let alone give more to the EU.
Yodama
27th Oct 2018
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PaulineB946 accuses Brexit supporters of being brainwashed? The very reason so many voted to leave is because they are informed.
What "true facts" do you have that show a "different story?"

Brainwashing: Cambridge Dictionary version.
To make people believe only what you want them to believe by continually telling them that it is true and preventing any other information from reaching them: (sic)

The recent march by EU luvvies ( approximately over half a million is touted by biased media,) is the result of an orchestrated brainwashing programme inculcated by collectively, the EU lackeys such as Tony Blair, John Major
( he of the Maastricht treaty) and the bought and paid for media outlets.

Foreign backers who have absolutely no business meddling in British politics are pouring in millions to whip-up fear and anti- Brexit fervour.

There is no doubt in my mind that this blatant and insulting disregard for the democratic result of the British People to leave the EU, is driven by outside forces who are intent on an European Superstate.

They are now shamelessly targeting the sulking remainers to try and overturn the result.
Smacks of desperation doesn't it?

Perhaps before you insinuate that the millions who voted to leave are too thick and brainwashed to know what they are voting for, you should do some research into who and what the European Union is all about and the long term goals that they have.
May shock you into changing sides when you realise it is yet another war, an insidious takeover of this country by any underhand means.
Lionel
27th Oct 2018
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Brilliant comment. Thank you.
Yodama
27th Oct 2018
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Coming from you a compliment indeed Lionel.
LizM8
26th Oct 2018
4
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There has been more than enough time to sort this out, how is any delay going to make any difference? Democracy is at stake here. I become furious when people suggest that those who voted leave didn't know what they were voting for. Of course we did, and to suggest otherwise is insulting. Bexiteers do not accuse remainers of not knowing what they were voting for. However, I believe that they did not know what they were voting for since it is obvious that the EU is totally undemocratic.
Barton babe
26th Oct 2018
1
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We have waited long enough for leaving the EU, We do not need to wait any longer. We should be out by now not still messing about.
MikeS
26th Oct 2018
4
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There may have been a large number marching. But the largest number of people ever to vote in Uk votes to leave the EU and remove EU institutions (the Commission, the EU courts, the EU parliament) to make laws applicable here. The Remainers had the chance to put their case and lost. Despite the financial support and resources of Government And overseas millionaires like George Soros. Wouldn’t the Remainers have labelled another referendum undemocratic? Except of course the EU has a record of seeking second votes, new governments and crippling policies whenever the people of independent nation vote for something the supporters of a United States of Europe want
PaulineB946
26th Oct 2018
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There were 700,000 people on the march in London last Saturday, surely Theresa May has to address this issue. So many people were brainwashed into voting to leave and now when so many more have realised the true facts of what leaving the EU will mean it is a very different story.
scandiman
26th Oct 2018
3
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Firstly 700.000 at the march is a gross overestimate. Police say 100,000. This is a very small percentage of those who voted Remain. I certainly wasn’t ‘brainwashed’. I had thought for a long time that we should not be in EU, and I certainly don’t base my decisions on what I am told by politicians or the media. The ‘true facts’ are based on little more than speculation. The awful mess we’re currently in is due entirely to the ineptitude of our dithering, Remain-centred Prime Minister, and the continual bickering of those who refuse to accept a democratic decision where the majority vote carries the day.
Lionel
26th Oct 2018
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Its good to have you back Scandiman. I had begun to think something awful had happened to you.

I believe Brussels obstructive behaviour ought to be added to your post above. As said earlier in this thread, Varoufarkis said Brussels doesn't negotiate it dictates, and that appears to be what Mrs May has found. I must say a strong willed and belligerent male in her place would probably have secured us a good few cherry picked gems and we'd be out by now. (Someone is going to scream sexist here).

In terms of the numbers quoted for the Remainers march, I don't believe 700,000 for one moment. At turn outs for the Quee'n's Diamond Jubilee where more streets were far more densely packed with a largely static crowd estimates ranged around 250,00, still well short of 700,000. 100,000 seems entirely reasonable to me.
AndyGz
26th Oct 2018
1
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Out at all costs. No deal is a WTO deal, just like the ready of the world
Roof Top Crow
26th Oct 2018
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My understanding is that a number of WTO members have objected to the terms of our membership. It means it will take many years, some say up to 8 years, before we can fully trade on full WTO terms. This was in a Liam Fox announcement earlier this week.
Onecott
25th Oct 2018
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I can’t agree that there are deliberate delays, Did some not realise what a painstaking, drawn out procedure it would be. It’s not being likened to a divorce without good reason
Onecott
25th Oct 2018
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Yes, I beleive it was an emotional vote, we need a practical vote.
Now people have aired their grievances, perhaps facts & figures will consolidate or alter their views
scandiman
25th Oct 2018
2
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From the start these negotiations have been handled with incompetence by a PM who doesn’t want us to leave. In any negotiations you don’t employ someone who doesn’t believe in what they’re supposed to be doing. We voted out and that doesn’t mean staying in a bit. If transition is extended temporarily, temporary has a nasty habit of becoming permanent. There should be no question of remaining in customs union either. Parliament won’t agree to Brexit with no deal, so our elected representatives are ignoring what I thought we voted for. Last night there was the spectacle of a stage-managed meeting between May and her Ministers which led to fulsome praise and support for her. After several opportunities to remove her, they’ve yet again backed down. After 46 years voting Tory, I’m voting UKIP in future; if no candidate I’m not voting.
Roof Top Crow
24th Oct 2018
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Scrolling down through the posts I can see that many Silversurfers believe that the EU is at fault because they are not helping the UK bring to an end its membership of the EU.

The reality is different. The EU has been trying very hard to find a solution for the UK and its 65 million citizens. However, and nor unreasonably they first and foremost need to find a solution that minimises the damage for the remaining 27 EU countries and the 450 million citizens that do not plan to leave the EU.

The EU does not want the UK to leave the EU, but it respects the decision of the 2016 referendum.

It is not up to the EU to find a solution to the Irish border problem. The UK decided in a referendum to end its membership of the EU and it is the UK that must find a solution.

The UK or should I just say this Conservative Government has demonstrated an extraordinary lack of ability and competence in negotiating our departure from EU membership. Quite simply they need more time.
Lionel
25th Oct 2018
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Well, hello Rooftop, it seems an age since we last engaged.

Your words imply some amount of insider knowledge on this matter. I believe if you see both sides of the debate there's as much anger toward our government as there is against top EU brass. Its clear this government trades in obfuscation for the purposes of veiling truth from the public, and laying more red herrings than could be found at Lowestoft fish docks - we shouldn't be surprised, its become the nature of 21C politics.

But equally Brussels is being as bloody minded as it can be. No surprise there. Before negotiations began Varoufarkis warned Brussels doesn't negotiate it dictates and he should know.

Our great British public has only the press for information. Anyone who trusts the press has rocks on their heads. Leader writers will have access to the same sources as you - gossip mongers in the Lobby, slips of the tongue (with a wink) in London Clubs.

But my real concern is that there may be in place an accord between the press and security services following a Number 10 request, to not publish sensitive material. That type of unwritten accord worked supremely well during the War. Yet we're not at war and therefore such collusion, or coercion, would be deemed illegal. Besides which, if such accords were in place it would be way above anything Leveson proposed.

In the final analysis it is the 'view from the pew' which will determine the fate of May and her government, the place of the Conservative Party (currently Tory Party is more accurate) and the perceived health of our democracy. Therein hangs the balance of this nation's future.
Roof Top Crow
26th Oct 2018
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Hello Lionel

No insider knowledge. My extended family includes people from all over Europe. To keep up with what is happening in those countries, I read many of the online news feeds from France, Germany, Belgium, Italy etc.

Just about every publication I read from the rest of the world, finds it very hard to believe that the UK has chosen to end our EU membership.

As we get closer to the end of March 2019 they are pushing the EU and their own governments to minimise the damage to their own economies that Brexit will cause. Along with that goes a great deal of resentment against the UK.

The UK reputation has taken a real battering. In history most countries have held the UK governments and politicians in very high regard. That has ended, and politicians such as Johnson, Davis and Fox have caused very serious damage to our reputation. The general view about our PM is that she is a women totally out of her intellectual depth just as she was as Home Secretary.

As for the future of the UK, I am afraid that most, if not all the press overseas, take a very negative view of our future economy.

As for being in a club. I am a member of our local sports club and I have membership of the Curzon Cinema chain which gives me a discount on ticket prices. But I suspect that’s not what you mean.
Karine Davison
24th Oct 2018
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Any delay which could allow more favourable terms than now, must be welcome. Also it is time this Govt. recognised that it was a SMAll majority to leave. ...BOTH sides should be considered ,therefore NOT a HARD Brexit.
sunpip
22nd Oct 2018
2
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A delay must never happen. I voted to Leave. And I do know what I voted for. How dare others say I don't. Freedom for the United Kingdom to govern itself in all respects. As soon as possible. Even if it means no deal. Please someone HELP. Someone in the Conservative Party please sort this out NOW.
JohnJ8
22nd Oct 2018
3
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The country voted to leave, & like all other elections, we must go with the majority. Why should this vote be different
garry17
22nd Oct 2018
3
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We voted to leave {I did not} so lets get out now and start being british again.
Madauntydi
22nd Oct 2018
2
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We’ve waited long enough!
viking
21st Oct 2018
3
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All the posturing and delaying tactics by the EEC is to draw out the negotiations as long as possible,because after this country leaves the sinking ship there will be a huge hole in their finances.Remember the UK is the third largest contributor of money into the snakes den.
Countries such as Spain Italy Greece etc., will be told that they will have to contribute much more to cover this deficit. Result will be those countries having to increase their indebtedness by loans with ..............yes of course the DeutscherBank. These countries realise that it will cause civil unrest as taxation will have to be raised to cover the increased contributions.
MandyN8
21st Oct 2018
0
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No the decision was made now she trying to do a u turn because it wasn't the decision she wanted,it's been decided so just do it
Hattie
20th Oct 2018
3
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Just get on with it, EU keep on with the blackmailing/bullying/threats they need UK money which is why they keep dragging it on.
JaneW59
20th Oct 2018
3
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Absolutely not. Just get us out as fast as humanly possible. The cash cow is leaving the building. If they won't reach an agreement with us, we don't give them a final payment. Easy.
JuneN4
20th Oct 2018
4
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Definitely not! Just get on with it!
georgine
20th Oct 2018
4
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Sorry but I wish they would just get on with the withdrawal in March. Why should we play into their hands. We were good enough for them when they were in trouble in 1918 and 1939. It is about give and take. Just please please get on with it
John Walsh
20th Oct 2018
2
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We voted to leave the EU. Why the deals? Deals in what?
flossie.h
20th Oct 2018
3
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We need Teresa May to stop giving giving giving , stand strong, sort the Irish border out and leave.
Putty
20th Oct 2018
1
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This is a forever decision and if it is going to happen at all we need to get it right. If that means taking a bit more time then it doesn’t matter. Future generations will blame us if we get it wrong. There is no rush, just get it right.
Onecott
25th Oct 2018
0
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Yes exactly right, I agree Putty
WATERSPRITE
19th Oct 2018
2
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The way the negotiations have gone underlines the reasons we voted to leave. For those who want a second referendum the question should ask Shall we have the deal or Shall we have no deal, as we already voted to leave.
MayE
19th Oct 2018
5
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This has been going on long enough the people have given their vote to leave and there should be no extension leave means leave.
marion5
19th Oct 2018
7
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I am more than fed up with this, they want to keep us in for our money ALONE not because they want us there
JeanC348
19th Oct 2018
5
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We voted out let's get out now and get our country back
TonyO
19th Oct 2018
3
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Voted leave which means leave
SueH98
19th Oct 2018
1
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This has gone on long enough. If it can’t be done say so, otherwise move on and get on with it. A remainer or leaver it makes no difference...we have had enough.
JenniferP7
19th Oct 2018
4
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Leave means leave..for goodness sake just get on with it.
ozzie
19th Oct 2018
5
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The British public were intelligent enough to vote Politicians into power but they seen to think we are not intelligent enough to know what or why we voted to leave. They have had long enough to get this sorted--two years in fact. Germany and France are worried when we leave the EU will collapse as they need our money. Other countries who donate less will go too. It really annoys me to see Macron and the Frau who refuses to speak English in cahoots. Has he forgotten what Great Britain did for France and what Germany did ?
Weewoman49
19th Oct 2018
2
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I am 68 I voted for the EEC in the first vote and I voted remain in the second. I am also the daughter of a soldier of the Second World War I am also the granddaughter of two soldiers of the First World War who came back and uncles who didn’ t their names are on the Menin Gate. I know their trials and tribulations endured through those wars.
Don’t you dare infer that I am a traitor if I don’t agree with you. I am a Scot and a European I look to the future for my children and grandchildren not to a rose tinted past that did not exist. It was not England alone who won the Second World War there were a lot of others without whose help the war would have been lost. Your great hero Sir Winston Churchill was all for European Unity to prevent war in the future which seems to have worked. To quote him “Better to Jaw Jaw Jaw than for War War War.
jeffsoo
19th Oct 2018
4
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I too voted for the Common Market which was a great idea but I did not vote for a United States of Europe
dianedevon
19th Oct 2018
-3
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What about the Balkans War when many thousands died, so many conveniently forget the suffering that took place, a lot of folk stood by and did nothing, Peace in Europe ever since the formation of the EU, balderdash. What about in recent times Crimea.
TonyO
19th Oct 2018
1
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Sir Winston Churchill also said we are surrounded by sea and Europe
TobyJ7
20th Oct 2018
4
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Well said, if people can't spot that they are enabling the sort of people they claim to stand against by destabilising the EU, they've lost the plot.
jeanmark
20th Oct 2018
3
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I think you will find it was Russia who invaded the Crimea and they are not part of the EU, just saying.
jeanmark
20th Oct 2018
1
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Well said wee woman,
Kes
19th Oct 2018
2
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Out means out, and out now! Barmy Barnier and all his theiving bureaucratic cohorts will delay and prevaricate for ever as they don’t want to loose our money. Stop the payments right now. The Government no longer has a mandate to keep sending our money to Brussels.
Kobyhodge
19th Oct 2018
2
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I am 71, I voted against joining in the first referendum and voted to leave in the 2nd. Deal or no deal we should leave in March. What happened to the Treason Laws, treason is defined as 'someone who tries to overthrow the Sovereign or Government', surely this is just what Messrs, Hesletine, Blair & Clegg were trying to do when they published in a German Newspaper. We will shortly be remembering those who fell for our freedom in two World Wars and I hope none of those voting to Remain will have the audacity to wear a poppy, which is not an ornament but a sign that we remember the sacrifice so many made for the freedom the remain campaign seemingly want to give away. They are a disgrace to their Queen and Country.
moz19
19th Oct 2018
2
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We have waited long enough. It's dragged on to long and should have been sorted already. Feel like the negotiations are in trying to please those who voted remain not the majority who voted leave.
DavidT18
19th Oct 2018
2
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I would like to see us leave EU on Monday. All the negotiating seems a waste of time and only makes things worse for us
shedbrewer
19th Oct 2018
4
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As has been said before, Britain voted to leave the EU over two years ago, we entrusted the signing of all necessary papers to the present Government, sadly they (the present Government) have let us down. We signed up to join the Common Market, with some trepidation, I might add, then were led into this Fairytale land of the EU. Now we have the chance to come out and the Powers That Be, the Government, are dithering ,,,,
Lionel
19th Oct 2018
7
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The Post Referendum period has been a truly eye opening demonstration of the strength of British democracy. Under modest stress, it has failed, but miserably. I can only conclude Britain is now as much a dictatorship as banana republics.

The will of the British people for their future was made clear in the Referendum. No ifs, no buts. Cameron's words. Article 50 was to be implemented the day after a vote for out.

Since June 2016 we have witnessed the most appalling and juvenile examples of politicians taking our future into their hands and deciding matters not in a manifesto, nor voted for at the Referendum. Result? Democracy has been buried in the graveyard of politics!

I would suggest Britain unilaterally declares 'out' on Monday, sack all politicians and the top third at least of the politicised Civil Service and assemble a government of National Unity from people of all walks of life. A-political, representative of the British people and with a single mandate. GET BRITAIN SORTED OUT!
JackiG
19th Oct 2018
1
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JimC3
19th Oct 2018
2
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We voted to LEAVE not to hang about like a kid wanting to be part of a gang, because that’s exactly what they are
Gravicom
19th Oct 2018
2
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Leave now EU need our money as they could go broke other countries are watching what happens Italy , Greece are in trouble. Get out now don't pay a penny to them let them sort out Ireland .
DawnM76
19th Oct 2018
2
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Delay will continue to cause uncertainty in the UK. Why would we continue in EU, pay them but not be involved in decisions being made.
Come on TM it's time to do what is right for UK the EU is stalling to get more from UK and we would be worse off waiting as we would have no day but be tied to follow EU laws and decisions
DerekJ9
19th Oct 2018
3
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Were being held to ransom by the EU terrible two.
Out now no ifs or buts.
VivienL
19th Oct 2018
0
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We need to leave now, the EU are playing a game, and T.M. is going along with it, s
he has to go for us to leave.
Pauline52
19th Oct 2018
0
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I can’t get terribly excited about a delay per se as long as we make a good, firm start.

We started out being members of the EEC, and it has taken 45 years to get to where we are now.. it could take a similar length of time to get to where we really want to be - it’s a journey; not a pit stop.

My problem with Chequers is that it seems designed to halt the journey!
KathleenH58
19th Oct 2018
1
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Absolutely rediculous to delay, Europe must be laughing at us as a delay will mean we will owe another years' contributons and cost us Billions, leave with a hard Brexit, we can make our own Trade Deals, sort out Northern Ireland with Port Checks and GET ON WITH IT.
Melimited
19th Oct 2018
1
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Why should we? We have served our notice
We are giving the €39000 million which they are not entitled to. They have brought nothing to the table but rejection criticism and demands. Aid Weidersehn Pet.
Stevsl
19th Oct 2018
1
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Delay exit once and they will try to delay exit again and again, 2years is enough, out ASAP!
GrahamP8
19th Oct 2018
2
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It should have been once the vote had been counted we should have put it the devorce papers and been out and free by now
Linder
19th Oct 2018
3
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We need to leave now, if we don’t get out ASAP we are going to be fleeced by the EU and the impending financial crash of Italy. They just want to squeeze as much out of us as they can. The root cause of all this lies in the original joining of the EU, which suited government and business, not the ordinary person...
GrahamP8
19th Oct 2018
-3
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They should have handed in the devorce papers within a week of the vote and left by now
cestrian
19th Oct 2018
1
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Get out of this disastrous club now, no extension, no money, leave now
GrahamP8
19th Oct 2018
0
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AngieB76
19th Oct 2018
4
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I think there should have been far more thought about the consequences by Parliament and how it might affect Britain in the future , before entering the E. U. in the first place . This should happen before all parliamentary decisions and then , once we had a referendum , that would have been final .
GrahamP8
19th Oct 2018
2
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We were conned in the first place it started as a common market now it's got complete control ,we should never have got in so deep
Cas70
19th Oct 2018
4
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It's time to get out they have kept us dangling long enough. They are just squeezing as much out of us as they can.
ChristineN6
19th Oct 2018
3
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They've been messing about for far too long as it is. Just LEAVE, it's what we voted for
LesleyM56
19th Oct 2018
7
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Teresa May needs to resign and let a true Brexiter take over and sort out the mess she and Olly Robins has made. Olly Robins has no place at all in this as he is a remainer and that is all he is working towards.
Jean Williamson
19th Oct 2018
4
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Let’s just leave and get our I independence back, we’ve paid enough into the EU. The majority vote was Leave, let’s do it
VeronicaJ
19th Oct 2018
4
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Bite the bullet and get on with it.The indecision is making things worse. It sends the wrong messages to the European Commission and gives even more cudose to the Irish leader.
hazduk
19th Oct 2018
8
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52% of voters in the referendum voted to leave the EU. And leave we must. Or democracy in the UK is dead. I do not want the UK to be a vassal state of the EU, which we will end up being. We will still be paying vast amounts of money for years to come to a corrupt, dictatorial undemocratic organisation that is opposite to the ethos of British democracy. Leave means leave, everything connected to the EU. No customs union, no single market, no European court of justice. Also an EU army under German control is very worrying. After the war, Germany was not allowed an army of its own so this is the way they've got round it.
Pauline52
19th Oct 2018
0
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I agree with your comments until the last sentence! The war ended 68 years ago; it has no relevance to the current situation.

Either we move on, or we get stuck in the past. You can’t have both at the same time!
hazduk
19th Oct 2018
1
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An EU army will draw on all its member states to supply the necessary armed forces. I am not living in the past, I fear for the future
AlisonS8
19th Oct 2018
-7
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Delay it for as long as we can then with luck it won't happen!!! It should never have. been suggested in the first place it's an absolute nightmare.
ColinJ5
19th Oct 2018
2
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The country voted out so why would we want an extension
Nellbat
19th Oct 2018
3
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The EU have NEVER been interested in discussing our plans.. They don't wan't us to leave because they love the power and control it gives them. Just like Hitler and his Nazi's they want to control the whole of Europe as a super state. OUT means OUT. They have had 2.5 years to sort this out and have done nothing but bow down to EU who keep moving the goalposts. Get out deal or no deal. We want a complete break from their corrupt claws NOW.
Lelhel
19th Oct 2018
6
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Out means out regardless of individual feelings. This a democracy and people voted
DonnaB2
19th Oct 2018
5
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The people who voted to leave want this to happen in March next year, not in another year's time. The prime minister needs to listen to what the majority voted for, & if that means taking a no deal brexit then that is what she should take. It is time for the government to do right by the result of the referendum.
Wilf
19th Oct 2018
0
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Yes we should leave but not if its a disaster at this point in time
Carol6
19th Oct 2018
1
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She is a remainer. She should never of been allowed to be in charge of negotiations. She has her own not so hidden agenda. She should of done what Ca moron said would happen. Should of invoked article 50 the day after referendum. All delay tactics which is going to cost the uk billions in payments to EU.
DerekM84
19th Oct 2018
8
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Brexit supporters have been accused of bring unaware of the facts (Ian an experienced Chartered Accountant and a reasonable understanding of finance, he says modestly), inward looking little Englanders (the EU is very inward looking whereas we have always been a global nation) and old (I was newly qualified when we joined so I cannot being old but it means I have experience before and after our joining the Common Market and remember our being taken ever further into what is now almost a federal set up without our having a say). We hsve been forced to distance ourselves from our traditional trading partners, especially the Commonwealth, and to "overtax" our imports from them to protect inefficient farming methods in other EU countries such as France. We have given up our once profitable fishing industry in favour of other EU members and have suffered from polices, such as setaside.which pays our farmers not to produce so that we import foodstuffs from subsidised producers elsewhere. I do not have the space to comment on the democratic deficit in the EU and the differences in our legal systems and citizens' rights - are they innate or given by the state?. Being older simply means that I am speaking from experience and not fear of the unknown which colours "younger" peoples' views. As a father and grandfather, I have the interests of future generations very much in mind. The Euro, very much a political rather than a financial project, has created poverty and mass unemployment in southern Europe. Need I go on?
Chanel55
18th Oct 2018
2
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The EU are not interested in reaching any sort of agreement with the UK it is in their own interests to prolong the transition period as long as possible, they want us to follow all EU rules but exclude the UK from having any input on new ones, we will still have continued free movement, they seem to forget that we are still part of the EU until we leave and are still paying into it, they treat us with utter disrespect.
[deleted]
18th Oct 2018
4
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Wilf
18th Oct 2018
2
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I am not quite sure why you think people are giving the Uk away Peter. we are the 6th largest economy in the world?
TinaA29
18th Oct 2018
10
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No I would not - we voted to come out of the EU and I strongly object to the 'wishey washey' pathetic way we are trying to appease the EU - they are unelected but are calling the shots. When will our politicians get the cojons to stand up to these bullying tactics. I am afraid that we were never going to get out scot free with the weak (remainer) Mrs May in charge. Move over and let someone with the interests of the people take over. Just tell them we are going next year and pull out completely - ok we may face a bit of a struggle for a while but at least we'll be able to make our own laws and trade agreements without interferrance and without going into further debt to pay monies we don't have into the EU black hole! Trust me, they need us as much, if not more, than we need them.
Billythequiche
18th Oct 2018
10
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I think the issue of the Irish border is a red herring. The EU is playing for time in the hope that either the PM or the government fall.
I did not vote to leave but after the way the EU has treated us since, we MUST leave. If parliament does not get behind the PM to get tough on a deal, they risk a catastrophe that will echo for generations.
kentrix39
18th Oct 2018
6
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We have waited long enough to get rid of these unelected blood suckers. They are completely unaccountable they just shroud their collective shoulders when millions of ponds cannot be accounted , a lot of it our money
We are told by our local councils that they cannot afford to repair our rounds yet the EU has given Hungary millions to repair its roads.
We urgently need control of our own country and borders plus our finances. Countries are lining up to deal with us as always happened before we got entangled with this, I am led to believe by the media, a very corrupt organisation.
We must get out now.all this "pussy footing " around is only making us a laughing stock.
Never mind the Irish border, sort that out later.
JuneAA
18th Oct 2018
8
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We should just get out as quickly as possible. I do not believe the horror stories about how bad it will be when we come out. It most certainly cannot be any worse than the shambles that we have now. Do it now.
Richard65
18th Oct 2018
7
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I really don't understand any of this. Why did we have a referendum in the first place? When Britien joined the Common Market in January 1973, there was no referendum if we should join, Ted Heath just took us in. The people didn't have a vote.

Today's EU is nothing like the Common Market which we first joined. So, why are the people being asked to vote on leaving, when they never had a voice in joining in the first place.

Even now, Europe is dictating to us as to what we should do about the Irish border, and if we don't obey we will be punished. If it wasn't for the bravery of the British people, there wouldn't be a europe at all today. This is the thanks we get. It's like there putting two fingers up to us.

Please someone tell me why should the people of this country have to pay a divorce payment, when no one voted to join the EU in the first place?
JuneAA
18th Oct 2018
7
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I agree with you 100%, fed up with all the excuses now, we need to get out and spend what it costs to be in on our own country in our own way.
BrendaG9
18th Oct 2018
6
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There was a referendum and it was a narrow decision to join,much the same as this last one was to leave. We joined the eec not the eu for trading only. De Gaulle didn’t want us to join in the first place!
Lionel
18th Oct 2018
5
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The referendum you refer to was held by Harold Wilson in 1975. It's core subject was continued membership of the E.E.C.

There was no referendum before joining the E.E.C. No, just buckets of receipt and sleight of hand from our politicians. A little like today, really!
CaroleAH
19th Oct 2018
0
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Unfortunately, we voted in the 1975 referendum to stay in the EU.
Karine Davison
24th Oct 2018
0
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Richard 65 ...we DID have a vote. I did not vote to join, but do not want to leave now. The money that Europe has given for Scentific projects, Medical Research, Arts, Roads ,Area development will never be replaced.
Our young people will not be free to travel and work as before.
Already we are aware of the loss of workers of all categories , as many have returned to their own country because of lack of early assurance by Theresa May that they would be welcome to stay.
Alicia
18th Oct 2018
5
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Let us just get out as quickly as possible.
jeffsoo
18th Oct 2018
3
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Enough is enough, we should walk away and let the EU pick the bones out of that
Wilf
18th Oct 2018
5
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yes but do we want to risk a economic downturn? That is what could happen if leaving the EU is a mess. Its decent British families who will suffer.
Yagala
18th Oct 2018
4
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A vote is a vote and when one party does not win so be it. Otherwise we will be voting and voting till the cows get home. Grow up I say and grin and bear it.
Pete H
18th Oct 2018
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Despite all the lies and promises from Farage, Gove and the clown Boris .... Brexit was never likely to be clean so if we have to extend our departure to make a deal then that might just be a price worth paying!
Wilf
18th Oct 2018
-4
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Yes of course if it means a sensible decision.... don’t rush to failure...
SylviaH87
18th Oct 2018
12
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The more delay there is the more UK gives into to EU demands.
Wilf
18th Oct 2018
-2
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I am note so sure Sylvia I think we need more time to prepare

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