Should smoking be brought back into pubs?

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The smoking ban came into force in the UK in July 2007 and to most of us no smoking is the norm now in all public buildings.

We all know Nigel Farage likes a good pint and now UKIP have said that if they got in power they would repeal the smoking ban in pubs and bars.

In the manifesto tabled earlier today the following was added:

  • The smoking ban in pubs and clubs will be amended to give them “the choice to open smoking rooms properly ventilated and separated from non-smoking areas”.
  • The new ‘plain paper packaging’ requirement for tobacco products will be reversed.

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Should smoking be brought back into pubs?

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nettles
17th Jun 2020
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I think they should have an area for smoking
Sheena1
8th Jan 2017
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Why don't folk think of a middle road ?...Why is everything Black or White...We have a choice (we are lead to believe), a middle road...What's wrong in thinking we can have smoke-free pubs and smoker-friendly pubs ?... The choice is then yours to choose !...
The boat is sinking, who do we throw out the boat ?...Or The boat is sinking, i suggest those that are able and willing to swim along-side by holding on please do-so as it ''May'' prolong the inevitable out come of a sinking ship !...
annggel
12th Dec 2016
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Smokers sense of smell is non existent - otherwise they would realise they smell of an old ashtray. No amount of perfume or aftershave masks a smokers odour.
Cactus14
11th Dec 2016
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Firstly I am an ex smoker, I don't begrudge anyone a cigarette. Unfortunately I was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2009 and had my right lung removed, after that I struggled with my breathing and was eventually diagnosed with COPD. I'm still here, not as fit as I use to be. I said no to smoking returning to pubs, I enjoy going to the pub for a couple of pints and meet friends, watch football etc. If smoking came back into pubs there are a lot of people like me who would not be able to go in a pub. I'm sorry if you think I'm being selfish but I can't sit around smokers. I understand what ban has done to the pubs, and agree if it was taken away it would increase business, but it's not only the smoking ban that has done the damage, look at the price of drinks they are extortionate so the brewers need to have a look at their demands on managers and the prices they have to charge.
Holaxer
10th Dec 2016
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Smoking is a danger unto youself and to others and therefore smokers should be declared " health incapacity"??
LAW
9th Dec 2016
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Smoking is a very bad and dirty habit indeed!! Does no good for the person using!!! Is very expensive and does nothing at all for good health. Keep smocking out of ALL public areas!!
davash
9th Dec 2016
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Rossie Raspberry
9th Dec 2016
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No Thankyou our clothes stank of smoke made my nostrils sore and worry of health issues from other people's smoking. My daughter has worked in a pub for 25years and it worried me how it effected her health and a constant cough throughout the winter. Smokers do not like fresh air.!!??
nettles
9th Dec 2016
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They should bring back the public bar and lounge.
nettles
17th Jun 2020
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Yes definitely, I have run over 30 pubs and alot of customers miss having a public bar with dart board and pool table, pubs now have lost a community feel
Bigglesworth
9th Dec 2016
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As a former worker in the hotel and pub industry who had to put up with smokers and their unhealthy habit, any suggestion of allowing smokers back inside is appalling.
If it also keeps Nigel Farage out of pubs then that in itself is worth keeping the ban.
Georgie Girl
30th Nov 2016
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I am shocked the yes vote is currently showing 44%. What is wrong with these people, our world is polluted enough, please keep your foul smelling gross habits to yourselves.
Superman
29th Nov 2016
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Who can afford to smoke and go to a pub!! No, smokers should stay outside, away from us non smokers, who don't want the smell in their hair or clothes!!!! Dirty habit!
Michael Michaels
25th Nov 2016
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I'm a non smoker. I believe that smokers should have a room that they and their friends could use. And maybe pubs being allowed to opt in as a smoker's pub. People and businesses should have the freedom to choose.
Georgie Girl
30th Nov 2016
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Hello Michael, when smoking was allowed in pubs, I can't recall non smokers ever having a room that we could use, regarding freedom to choose, I choose to breathe clean air where ever I may go, I am curious would you allow someone to smoke over you in your home?
Perky
14th Nov 2016
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I have no problem with people smoking. I do not like to see smokers huddled outside like fugitives.
Georgie Girl
30th Nov 2016
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Ah no best send them to pollute the moon maybe, as far away as possible!
Holaxer
10th Dec 2016
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Smoking should b banned from all public places including bus stops and pavements which are so crowded that it is impossible to escape the smoke. Its not fun for children or nonsmokers who have to suffer secondary smoking which causes lung cancer and other related health problems.
KEN ADAMS
12th Nov 2016
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I did smoke in my teens but I worked in an aircraft factory around fuel so there was a ban on smoking, the big turning point was national service, the pay was so low, to I used to sort of beg to the airman who was in the next bed who was a regular and got more cash then me, so I just packed it in, I have often thought this paid the mortgage on my house, I have 4 children, and 7 grand children non of them smoke either, we have double decker buses in my city and you were allowed to smoke upstairs I often see old people in wheel chairs smoking, how bad is that , Ken Adams
JinxB
11th Nov 2016
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As someone who has at vaious times worked in the bar trade as both a smoker and now non smoker I think the ban should stay, bar staff were exposed to smoke at work for several hours a day when smoking was allowed and had no say in the matter it was put up with it or no job! altthough I was a smoker then I didn't like going to open the bar because of the stink of stale smoke and I had to shower as soon as I got home because the smell of smoke in my hair and on my clothes was really bad. If you were working in a factory in these conditions you would be forced to wear protective clothing and respirators to safegaurd your health, Nigel Farage is just jumping on another popularist band wagon, he says he wants to get his life back after Brexit but make sure he is in the public spotlight all the time.
msbrenda
5th Nov 2016
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I certainly do not think that smoking should be in any closed in area! I have asthma, I enjoy going out with my friends to a pub (bar) on occasion, I wouldn't be able to enjoy myself or even stay for very long at all. It would trigger an asthma attack & even possibly put me in the hospital!!
Poppyrose
31st Oct 2016
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The ruination of the pub culture happened in the 80's - after work men would go to the pub for a couple of hours chat about everything, pint and fag in hand then go home for dinner and all was well with the world.
I as a female used to do the same and as the same would have pint and fag in hand. Then the wives decided that they would like to go to the pub at five o'clock and then I heard the comment 'We could bring the kids down so they did. Then it was, 'it's a shame they don't do food cos we could have tea here' so they did. Then it was the great smoking debate and the law was passed - Now you can't find a normal pub, there has to be an extensive menu, comfort and kids catering - give me strength the pub was never masquerading as an eating house/restaurant but that is what it has had to become to survive and despite best efforts, hundreds of pubs have closed because they cannot invest or evolve into a food place - just a plain drinking house with smoking would be such a refreshing change! Men now have nowhere to just unwind and get away from the women which is what the pub was for and have become emasculated because of this constant pink fluffy culture - respect the differences of the sexes and I just wish the pub culture would come back.
JinxB
11th Nov 2016
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and no consideration for the staff who have to work in these conditions, smokers or not they will have little choice about where they work if they want to have a job
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This is one of the best decisions made to ban smoking in pubs. As a non smoker I do not have to worry about how it is affecting my health. I don't have to wake up to stale smells on my clothes and in my hair.
Surely the amount of people who have stopped smoking since this ban can only be good for our environment.
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In years gone by smoking for the young was the thing to do, the effects on the lungs was little known about. Today we are educated in what smoke can do not when you are young but as you age, this is the time of your life when you are looking forward to retirement and being free to do your own thing. You then find you have a smoking related illness. Your life goes on hold visits to doctors, hospitals and chemotherapy units. Having just lost my husband to lung cancer I know from first hand experience the devastating effect this has had on our life, having to watch him slowly slipping away knowing there was nothing I could do. He did stop smoking 7 years ago but this was too little too late. So yes I am against bringing back smoking in public places in fact I'm against smoking full stop and I know it was his choice to smoke but it wasn't his choice to die not being able to breathe.
Arewen
14th Oct 2016
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I do not smoke. It is ridiculous seeing people standing outside having a smoke like a pariah. If you do not like smoke then refrain from visiting pubs.
[deleted]
17th Oct 2016
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JinxB
11th Nov 2016
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so what you are saying is if you dont like the smell of obnoxious smoke you shouldnt be able to go and have a drink with friends in a pub the large majority of people today do not smoke so why should they have to put up with it, you send out a very mixed message saying that smokers are every where refering to restaurants and saying that was the worst, so should you not go out to eat at one because people want to smoke? sorry I dont understand your argument
MorrisandDoris
1st Oct 2016
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Smoking is common !
spfsmart
30th Sep 2016
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I'd like the ban further enhanced to include outside public areas, eg pub gardens and coffee shops, outside events and pedestrian areas and should also include vapeing. I'm all for freedom of choice but I like my air as clean as possible.
cheska
29th Sep 2016
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The ban was one of the best moves ever.Don't even think of lifting it please.
Gilldee
20th Sep 2016
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Definitely not I enjoy going home and smelling like me not a dirty ashtray
janeyangel
4th Sep 2016
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I would not like to see the smoking ban lifted generally because
(1) prior to the ban I would go home and the smell of cigarettes clings to your clothes etc so you go home smelling vile.
(2) More importantly it's a major health hazard and as a public health issue the non smoking public should not be exposed to other people's cigarette smoke.
I also believe the smoking ban should be taken one step further and outside smoking areas be removed from doorways and set up at a distance from other pub users; again in order to protect the non smoking public.
hugo104
3rd Sep 2016
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policing half measures is too difficult , it is apity there is not outside bars but you have electronic systems and shelters to compensate.tobacco is usually a dirty and smelly habit
Janewd
26th Aug 2016
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If you are that desperate go outside to smoke. Most establishments provide 'smoking shelters'.
nomis
25th Aug 2016
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Sadly the lingering odour of stale smoke to a non smoker is not just unpleasant but in many cases nauseous, and whilst I respect
free choice there must be consideration as to effect on others.
Fruitcake13
20th Aug 2016
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No, I'm a smoker and I still say no, it shouldn't be allowed back into pubs.
Roger1946
19th Aug 2016
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It is interesting that the majority of the comments support a ban yet there is very little from the 44% who want this disgusting, antisocial habit to be given the green light.
Perhaps it is because there are no real grounds to allow smoking and there is little evidence and factual comment supporting their views.
Thankfully the 'NO's' have it.
poble
23rd Sep 2016
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Some would say drinking is a disgusting habit and causes more anti-social behaviour than smoking - you can also smell alcohol on people too. Many pubs have closed since the complete smoking ban so maybe there is a better idea to suit all who wish to socialise in pubs.
Roger1946
19th Aug 2016
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Definitely not.
Not only is there a risk of passive smoking the smell that lingers on your clothes is disgusting.
I know 2 pubs and one hotel where the owners have confirmed that the costs associated with cleaning, decorating and damage done by cigarettes has diminished significantly.
Just look around the environment and see how many cigarette buts litter our streets, parks etc.
The tax on cigarettes should be increased significantly to cover the costs that are incurred by others.
In my opinion it is a disgusting anti social habit.
countrygirl
8th Aug 2016
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Absolutely should be brought back. Should be the landlord who decides if the pub is smoking or not. Too many pubs have closed because of no smoking. Nobody seems to mind mixing with foul mouthed drunks and people off their heads on recreation drugs! At least smokers dont steal to get a fix. Neither do they cause harm when driving.
Roger1946
19th Aug 2016
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Of course drugs should equally be banned but this way of defending one disgusting habit (smell your breath, your clothes, the decorations etc.) with the ills of another is ridiculous.
Each subject should be viewed and addressed on its own implications.
Oh really they don't steal then why did so many places have to secure them as too many were being stolen.
No harm when driving. So you think that a cigarette dropped by a driver is not a risk ??
Skippylou
7th Aug 2016
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parsnip54
7th Aug 2016
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Personally I think smoking should be banned in all public places including the town centres and outside events. I hate it when you are out and about in the fresh air and some selfish individual has to pollute the air around them to satisfy their own personal weakness, then throws the dogends on the ground. I believe in freedom of choice, so smoke at home or somewhere not being used by unwilling participants. That's our choice.
LanceFogg
5th Aug 2016
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I certainly hope it is never allowed back again. I can now go out and have a great meal and a great time without having to peer through a smoke haze and get home reeking of cigarette smoke. I used to smoke quite a lot (60 a day) and now have realised it is horrendously anti-social as well as being bad for your health.
drakie01
17th Jul 2016
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I hope they don't. Ring it back, for me personally I have never smoked and what used to really really annoy me were persons who would take a smoke turn their heads and puff out the smoke ...usually in my face. This happened so regularly it really gets my goat..so no I don't want it bringing back, and if you go out coming home and your clothes,hair smell of smoke..disgusting
marie60
5th Jul 2016
6
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People should be able to enjoy an evening out without having to breath in smoke especially if you dont smoke yourself
Hal
20th Jun 2016
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Smoking band, drinking bans, how do we still survive? Addatives in our food, air pollution negative energy. I totally despair for the future of our right to live our lives as we choose
Hal
20th Jun 2016
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As a smoker I have to respect others. I don't smoke around other people who don't smoke or in public buildings. Now and again I enjoy smoking so I will smoke at home or with other friends who don't mind my filthy habit
Marny
16th Jun 2016
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I spent years not being able to eat in restaurants, cafes or visit public houses because I have asthma. My social life entirely changed when the no smoking ban came into action obviously for the better. It is outrageous to think that some people who do not take responsibility for their own health want to impose illness and death onto others because they are to weak to give up nicotine. Smoking should be banned everywhere unless its in people homes. The National health is over burdened already, and patients have to wait for long periods to be seen who have illnesses that are not self imposed. Why should patients have to wait in queue behind weak willed and selfish smokers. It has been medically proved that cigarette smoke causes cancer and lung problems in others who are forced to inhale the fumes. So better still, people who smoke should smoke wearing a plastic helmet where only they can inhale the poison they exhale every where!!! Smokers..get better informed on what chemicals are in the cigarette you inhale and exhale every day.Would you suck fumes out of a petrol tank..you might as well.. smokers learn about what you are putting into your body and every body else's body.
billstit
13th Jun 2016
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TOTALLY ABSOLUTELY NOT .

There is no way that should ever be allowed to happen . People can take ages getting ready to go out for the evening , all dressed up , smelling really nice and then they step over the pub threshold and walk straight into the stink of smokers . Yes STINK and that includes those vaping things aswell . You wouldn't want to sit in a smelly toilet all evening would you ? ? ? . Well that's what it would be like for us non smokers sitting in a place where you smokers frequent . So take the hint YOU SMELL and we don't want to .
Abrock
29th May 2016
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Smoking OK - but only between consenting adults in private!
Delboy
15th May 2016
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As an ex publican I believe there was a massive opportunity missed by the lunatics that have run the asylum we live in for years. Their challenge was that it had been established that so called second hand smoking had become politically important and they needed to be seen to be doing something about it. Instead of thinking about the problem and applying some logic they merely snatched at the first headline grabbing solution that came to them and banned smoking in pubs. That along with their campaign to discredit the age old custom of consuming alcohol triggered the destruction of a whole revenue generating industry heralding the demise of the British pub. The opportunity they ignored was to put the onus for clean air on the pub industry itself. They already possessed the technology to test air quality, so all they had to do was set a standard for breathable air and shut down any pub which failed to reach that standard. This would have meant that any pub allowing smokers to indulge in their filthy habit would have to have systems installed that cleaned the air to the preset standard. All they had to do now was send round an inspector every so often with a hand held meter to check the air.This would have resulted in a massive demand in the air conditioning industry and all the associated industries they rely on. Electrostatic filters were the state of the art in those days, but nothing fuels advancement in technology more than a huge demand (other than a war perhaps) such as this would have given rise to. No the lunatics decided to kill off more of our British tradition in favour of a headline grabbing stunt that caused the loss of livelihood for tens of thousands in the hospitality industry, instead of creating prosperity for tens of thousands in the climate control industry. Some pubs in this scenario would of course still closed down because they wouldn't have been able to afford the necessary equipment, they may have chosen the cheaper alternative to ban smoking in their premises and still been forced to close, but at least they might have clung on a while longer than they did. Breweries and other concerned parties would have joined in the struggle to allow pubs to continue functioning by assisting with finance etc, and the air conditioning industry would also have been able to assist by lowering prices and offering finance options. Too late now though the damage is done. Well done lunatics the rest of us in the asylum soberly thank you for our pristine quality public air. The air in pubs, even those filled with chain smokers, wouldn't have needed to be cleaned much to bring it up to the wonderful standards of somewhere healthy like Hyde Park for instance and I know what the air's like there because it's where I had my last asthma attack!
Hal
20th Jun 2016
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I quite agree with you. If you're old enough to smoke then your old enough to make your own decisions. This should never have been a government decision. People should make up their own minds. All of those who take their kids to pubs should realise that alcohol is just as dangerous as nicotine.
celtwitch
28th Jun 2016
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The essential difference, which seems to have escaped you, is that children can't inhale alcohol!
celtwitch
28th Jun 2016
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I think that the extortionate rents that the Brewers charge their tenant landlords, plus the non competitive prices of their products was the principal reason that began the decline in the British pub.
It was filthy smokers that were partly responsible for me avoiding pubs since the early 90's. A smoke filled atmosphere, overflowing ashtrays ugh! Iffy toilets, high prices (a glass of lemonade dearer than a beer!)
The industry has only itself to blame.
Roger1946
19th Aug 2016
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Perhaps it wasn't Hyde Park that caused your asthma attack.
Perhaps your life in a smoke filled environment was the major cause !
So anyone who disagrees with you is a lunatic ?
Could people therefore wonder if it was your pub that was the asylum ?
Terotech1
10th May 2016
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Short but sweet Daisy May!
Lytham lucky
29th Apr 2016
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No definitely not we none smokers can't even sit outside a pub because its where the smokers sit puffing away
Daisymay146
22nd Apr 2016
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tichy
20th Apr 2016
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I want to go out to enjoy myself, not to have someone else's drug abuse forced on me. As Nicotine is a drug and is also in the new e cigarettes.

As people who self harm, I also think smokers should pay each time they use the NHS with smoking related health problems.

Roy Castle was well loved, but was killed with Cancer by others selfish drug abuse. As Roy himself did not smoke.

Kill yourselves with Nicotine if you want, not other people.
Lee brock
7th May 2016
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So when u go out and drink your drug causing alcohol related health problems are you giving much thought to the burden you are creating for the nhs to deal with ? I believe alcohol to be one of the highest costs to the nhs year on year. Or is it difficult to think whilst drunk and sitting on such a high horse ?
You have every right not to want to be around smokers as some people don't want to be around drinkers. They deal with it by not going to places where people drink you can deal with it by going to a non smoking pub and I should have the right to decide to use a smoking pub If I want
Compromise is what is needed not nanny state blanket bans
Daisyfields
30th May 2016
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The nhs makes more in tax from smokers than it cost. They also die younger the biggest burden is people living longer and chancds are you will need treatment even if you dont smoke. Alot of people would have got ill even theg dont smoke. If you have a car creash does that mean you shouldbt get treated beacause you got in a car so its your own fault? Or if you dont eat a perfect healthy diet. Hey alcohol is a drug. And you dont have to go in if people smoke. If you exceed 14 units i. A week then the nhs best not treat you
time for change
16th Jul 2016
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The NHS does not make more from taxes from smokers in fact it costs the NHS a huge amount with its quit campaign. I speak as someone who is involved with the reorganisation of the NHS & its funding deficit. One message that is going to be hitting hard is that people WILL have to start taking better care of their own health. So stop smoking, better diets, reduce alcohol consumption & better lifestyles will become the norm. If we want an NHS then their has to be a radical change in attitudes. Another message that needs to be rammed home is that the NHS is not free only at the point of delivery. The NHS will be faced in the near future with some very hard choices about what sort of health care this country gets so it's down to all of us to be responsible when it comes down to manage ring our own health.
Soozie63
17th Apr 2016
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No way! Who wants to come home smelling of an ash tray? It was bad enough before and when you go abroad i.e. Spain, it is a shock to see people smoking everywhere!
barbara.graves
16th Apr 2016
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Definitely not. I enjoy coming home now as fresh-smelling as I went out, and not smelling as if I'd been bought in a smoke sale!
morganly
7th Apr 2016
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The awful smell of cigarette smoke on your clothes in your hair has gone long may it do so.
keithknapman
3rd Apr 2016
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Yes yes yes please a cigarette and a pint heaven
keithknapman
3rd Apr 2016
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Yes, yes and yes a pint and a cigarette lovely
arte et marte
1st Apr 2016
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no unless smokers can be sued.
Lytham lucky
29th Apr 2016
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He he like your style
mojudsav
31st Mar 2016
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Absolutely not, we have just started going back into pubs now that it's not like stepping into a giant ashtray, I can wear my suede coat knowing that it's not going to stink when I come home, when people smoked in pubs I never wore my best clothes. The obvious health issues are the most important of course and even if it was allowed in another room the smoke would permeate through the entire building. I cannot imagine how we put up with it and would be mortified if they brought it back.
Kazzy57
19th Mar 2016
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Definitely not, it isn't fair that those who smoke should damage the health of those around them and passive smokers are worse off than those who smoke apparently, I think smoking should be banned altogether, it kills people and people who smoke also drain the NHS when the smoking causes them ill health. They should charge smokers for any NHS treatment, since their smoking has self inflicted their illness in the first instance.
There is nothing more obnoxious to none smokers than the stench of smoke tainting the air they breath and food and drink they consume in public bars and cafe's.
Smoking is a disgusting mindless habit that damages the health of everyone from babies, children, toddlers, teenagers right up to seniors and also animals too.
I say ban it altogether, never mind just in public places.
gingercat
19th Mar 2016
6
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Definitely not! Best thing ever happened being banned from public places like pubs and restaurants etc.
Lee brock
7th May 2016
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Yes great for you not so much for all the poor landlords who lost their lively hoods suppose at least they are free to smoke while queued up outside job centre
Roger1946
19th Aug 2016
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Oh really Lee, so drink driving did not have an impact ?
The cost of soft drinks on many occasions cost more than alcohol.
We are living in a changing world and unless you address constant change you will fail.
Gislaine
3rd Mar 2016
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Leave the ban in place, smokers can go outside - preferably away from the pub doorway! My husband has smoked all our married life and I had no choice but to sit with the smokers in years gone by. With the current laws I can enjoy my meal smoke free. Due to the law being changed he agreed to smoke only in 1 room of the house, which I can stay away from.
JulieJ1
2nd Mar 2016
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In public places -No! No! No! No! No! No! Special areas -why not?
PatriciaO
2nd Mar 2016
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My late mother had emphysema and we would be sitting in a restaurant, café etc and smokers would come and sit either next or close to us and we would have to leave. Smokers seem to hold their cigarettes at arms length , wafting in the air so everyone smokes it with them.
HEAPUS
2nd Mar 2016
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The best thing to happen in recent years was the banning of smoking in most enclosed public areas .I speak as a reformed smoker ,gave up ten years ago,so I do understand the craving for a fag but surely just going outside for one is no great hardship.
major red
2nd Sep 2016
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well said I smoked 60 a day till I meet my wife then as she did not smoke I stopped I can say now the best thing I did no more smell and my taste buds came back its been 12 years and I now hate walking past the stinkers it reaches
torylady
2nd Mar 2016
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A area for smokers should be brought in. The non smoking ban has been the death bell for a lot of local pubs
parsnip54
22nd May 2016
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That's strange, I seem to remember people blaming the drink/drive campaign as the cause of the demise of the pub and club trade. Or is this just another reason to justify a situation that possibly would have occurred anyway due to increased cost, cheap alcohol from supermarkets etc.
Why not blame the EU, perhaps that leads to another argument to whether we should leave.
moonie
1st Mar 2016
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Yes all should be accommodated
dragonmyst1947
28th Feb 2016
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Barbara58 read it again I meant what it said not only can i not stand them on a bus or a train because smokers stink of it if one walks past me in the street I can smell it I am talking about NOW
Barbara58
29th Feb 2016
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Hi Dragon. Phew - longest sentence I've ever read.
I loathe drunks in pubs. Letching, foul mouthed, touchy feely drunks who reek of stale beer. I also loathe live bands in pub bars - far too loud for conversation so to be avoided like the plague. They should be in the village hall. I don't go there anymore.
Seems like the only sensible answer is to restrict alcohol to 2 drinks per person, then the above won't offend.
You see...............2 sides to every story.
Live and let live I say.
dragonmyst1947
1st Mar 2016
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Hi Barara58,
I apologise if there was no punctuation, I have dementia and quite often put wrong words also . I am doing well if it was legible.

I dislike all the things you mention also, plus a whole lot more.

You would think I wouldn't as I was a trouble shooting public house manager for over 35 years but there was no, no smoking pubs then.
Enjoy your day

Sonya
Roger1946
19th Aug 2016
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Your last sentence Barbara summed it all up.
Live and let live by totalling banning smoking!
Barbara58
28th Feb 2016
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Oops - meant to say that the table and chairs in the basement was for the NON smokers. LOL
Barbara58
28th Feb 2016
1
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When the French had to have a 'designated' smoke free area they put a table and two chairs in the basement!
I hate the anger here. It is so negative.
Of course smokers can be accommodated. A room can be put aside for them but, so staff aren't affected, they should order drinks from the main bar - once they've put their ciggy out.
Years ago children weren't allowed in pubs and, instead, sat in the car, or outside, with a bottle of pop and bag of crisps.
What outcry there'd be if that was reinstated!
I strongly believe that everyone should be considered.
patrington
19th Feb 2016
1
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I say NO,because it will get back to public transport,cinemas,cafes etc,etc we would be going backwards......I dont go in pubs much now anyway but would go in evrn less if smoking was permitted..
Joan Fraser
6th Feb 2016
7
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I am a lifelong smoker.....when young I only knew adults who smoked, and it was much later that health implications began to be highlighted - by that time I was hooked. These days I seldom go out socially because I hate the cold and rain, so won't often subject myself to 'pavement smoking'.

So, having given you a picture of my addiction, you may be surprised when I say NO to having all areas open for smoking; I do however think if there were Smoking Lounges available, I might socialise again, and some licensed premises would win back clientele.

A recent professional conversation about the amount of lonely elders raised the point that (retired men in particular) would socialise over a pint and a cig - and/or have a bar lunch to save them cooking, but many chose not to go out now hence their isolation, which in part is attributable to the smoking ban.
rubbish51
7th Feb 2016
4
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Joan. Thank you. I couldn't have put it better.
rubbish51
1st Feb 2016
1
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Since the smoking ban, pubs have closed by the handful. I know non smokers don't like the smelly clothes after visiting the pubs, but you've seen the destruction of the brewery industry, smokers are an evil necessity.
pidgnman
31st Jan 2016
2
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Silver Belle
27th Jan 2016
5
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Absolutely not. At last I can go into a pub and not get sore eyes and smelly clothes. In fact it should also be banned outside too if food is being served. Nothing worse than smelling cigarette smoke whilst eating.
Karl.S
27th Jan 2016
4
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Absolutely not, I don't miss that stale ashtray stink for one second ! But having said that, if pubs want to have their own private gas chamber for the addicts well that's fine too as long as it's a good distance from the bar!
mark1957
25th Jan 2016
3
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Not carte blanche but if a pub had a completely separate smoking room then I wouldn't necessarily be against that. Then the problem is how do you make the staff work in the smoking area, how do you make sure there there's adequate ventilation and so on?
We are so used to clean air in public establishments now that allowing smoking again would be an entirely retrograde step in my opinion.
john stewart
23rd Jan 2016
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the elecki fag for me was the best thing since sliced bread.Its fairly accepted in pubs now.to a point you cant tell others how to live
Speeednet
18th Jan 2016
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If somebody wants to smoke it should be up to them and not the nanny state. Clearly there is a demand and should a pub open a smoking bar, non smokers will not be forced to go in there. This is from a non smoker BTW.
lilian1
17th Jan 2016
7
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I used to be a smoker but gave up thankfully for health and the high cost but I think it was the right decision to ban smoking from pubs hope they keep the ban to be honest .....
petesline9
15th Jan 2016
6
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I remember the day when where ever you
Went for a drink ' you would return home
Smelling like a woodbine ! or any other of the crappy weeds
That people would smoke,
Stopping smoking in pubs has been one of
Best New laws we have had ,
I believe that people in future
Will look back and have a good laugh at the
Ways our parents behaved
Especially when I think of all the stinking
Passive smoking that we were forced to
Endure as 60s kids from our post-war baby booming society
Though at the time it was just the norm
As most of the other brainless fads
Brought on by mans empty desires
Terotech1
15th Jan 2016
-1
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I have supported UKIP from their inception, even sending a donation early on. This smoking idea seems to me to be just a cheap vote-catcher, so I'll go back to staying away from politics until every MP is an independant.
senile
5th Jan 2016
3
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Being a social drinker and a non-smoker I find it preferable in a non-smoking establishment.Having said such,were a bar wanting to cater to smoking ,I think they should be able too.But I also think this would mean failure(business failure)in the long run unless they could also create a non-smoking environment(a separate smoke free) within their establishment.I have no desire to eat/drink in a smoking environment,but I respect the rights of others to be able to do so.
Minimuppet
20th Dec 2015
8
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I have read many of the comments below which refer to smoking as an anti-social habit. If I go into a pub what I find as anti-social are the people who have been there for a good part of the day and are three sheets to the wind, those people who talk as loudly as possible so everyone else has to put up with their conversations, foul language (not the usual odd swear words), the belief that if women are their alone they are in desperate need of male attention, loud music and tables littered with dirty plates and napkins. Sort out these problems please.
silverhair
5th Jan 2016
4
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and the high volume of their private business on their cell phones, i dont want to know what girl/boy friend was doing with her/him the night before thank you or their medical problems.
Minimuppet
20th Dec 2015
0
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I am sure that one of the reasons so many pubs have closed is because of the smoking ban. Many people like myself liked to go to the pub after work for a drink and cigarette to socialise. Most pubs are big enough to provide an area for people who want to smoke. I also remember the time when the only food you could get in pubs was either crisps or sandwiches if you were lucky. There was nothing worse than going into a pub and having the stink of frying chips and food wafting over you. There were cafes and restaurants for that. The pub was a place to drink, meet up with friends and have a cold snack. I spend a lot of my time abroad where there is no smoking ban in the majority of places. People get on fine and no one complains. It is called freedom of choice.
Dickens
18th Dec 2015
6
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NO. I enjoy a social drink or meal in the local now there's no stinking cigarettes. My clothes still smell fresh when I get home and I feel much healthier. I have never smoked only passive smoking which thanks to this legislation has now stopped.
Terotech1
15th Jan 2016
4
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Well said, Dickens, I played guitar in pubs and clubs for many years, and during the week had to air my clothes and equipment to rid them of the smoker's weekend stink......and I smoked at the time!
Smokers trying to kick the habit are now relieved of some of the temptation to start again....the big tobacco companies will campaign against the ban, but the hospital cancer wards and Macmillan nurses may welcome the lower caseloads!
Barbara58
28th Feb 2016
-1
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Sorry, have to take you to task there. I'm guessing you, like all pub entertainers I've ever known, got PAID.
You didn't have to do it did you?
Terotech1
29th Feb 2016
1
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How do you mean "take me to task"?
Yes I was paid, except when playing on charity benefit occasions.
The money didn't do more than cover my expenses.
I played because I enjoyed doing so, and every venue allowed smoking, so there was nowhere else to play.
I really do not understand how playing for nothing would have saved me from the stink of smokers.
meggieb
18th Dec 2015
4
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No way, think of the next generations to come, smoking kills, I know!
HJR58
18th Dec 2015
5
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Definitely not. Passive smoking can harm the staff and other customers. Plus it smells horrible!
dungarvan lady
16th Dec 2015
3
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definitely no to encouraging smoking.We smoked so early around 15 and when we climbed up to the top deck on the bus it was almost impossible to see who was up there. I remember driving many miles to find a shop open for cigarettes late at night because my friends had all ran out and we were like junkies. I drove 30 miles and back in Cornwall one night to get to a late night Garage,Thankfully I gave up in my 40s and have never regretted that.No more searching for a dog end, no more stinking fingers, no more searching the house for the one you were sure you had "somewhere". So glad none of my Grandchildren smoke. I once worked for a Consultant Doctor,(he was a Sir) he was writing a large report on the connection of smoking and lung cancer. He was about 70 and a very intelligent man. Whilst he was dictating the report to me he lit one cigarette after another. I opened the window as far as it would go as soon as he left my office. I think many people have stopped now but I notice that the youngsters seem to be smoking more. I think the scary adverts should be played more on tv and cinemas as there is no doubt that Smoking shortens lives and is the cause of many fatal illnesses.
Joan Fraser
12th Dec 2015
5
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No - I am a heavy smoker, and come from a long line of heavy smokers. I have smoked for 45+ years, but would not welcome the general reintroduction of smoking in public places.

I would like to have a designated and ventilated room, but not in a restaurant area or other place where children and non smokers are.

I don't (and never have) smoked in non smokers homes - but the ban has not restricted my smoking, if anything I smoke more now and I go out less, so drink and socialise more at home. I have private health insurance cover and don't expect NHS to pick up the tab for smoking related ill health should it affect me in future.
jeane
4th Dec 2015
6
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Definitely NO,banning smoking was one of the best things ever to have happened so NO,NO,NO.
Couscous
23rd Nov 2015
7
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I believe the smoking ban is about the only good thing Tony Blair did as Prime Minister. I have lost count of the number of times I would arrive home with my clothes smelling like an Ashtray and me a non smoker. This was a result of me socialising in pubs or having a meal where smokers light up and let their disgusting smoke drift all over me. I was once in a restaurant and told a smoker he was spoiling my meal by his smoke drifting over me. He laughed at me saying the smoke was simply a by-product of his cigarette and harmless. I pointed out in return that my urine was simply a by-product of the wine I was drinking and harmless so he would not therefore object if I released my by-product by peeing all over him.
His wife then got up and insisted they leave. One up to me but it could have turned nasty.
jenberyl
21st Nov 2015
5
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I agree with billyt01 NO smoking & NO UKIP......
billyt01
20th Nov 2015
5
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No smoking AND No UKIP
Maureen Price
20th Nov 2015
6
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Totally NO, NO, NO, it does make such a difference to be able to enjoy a drink or meal without having it ruined by the smell of smoke
on your clothes, in your hair.
I am sure the landlord's are happy that general business in the bar or restaurant has picked up
after getting rid of that disgusting habit!
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Absolutely NOT, smoking is not a personal habit as it afflicts others with secondary smoking and I hated being kippered by their smoke, in my hair and on my clothes, thoroughly vile. Even today I dislike walking past where smokers are congregating in a huddle polluting the air.
Sadly tobacco companies are still in existence and also strongly peddling their toxic wares to 3rd world countries despite it being well known that smoking causes cancer and often kills
dragonmyst1947
8th Nov 2015
5
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I cant even be near a smoker on a bus or train I have to move because the smell makes me physically sick.
Barbara58
28th Feb 2016
-1
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Your argument falls down as you are speaking in the present tense and this no longer happens on busses or trains.
Roger1946
19th Aug 2016
1
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Barbara,
You clearly don't let facts get in the way of your views.
I got on a 'smoke free' bus yesterday and a guy was stubbing out his cigarette on the pavement (for someone else to have to pick up) and sat next to me.
The smell was disgusting and had I not been getting off at the next but one stop I would have moved.
timetrax
8th Nov 2015
4
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definitely not .we gave up smoking nearly 10 years ago and its really healthier also puts pounds in your pockets for holidays etc.....
Jerry71
1st Nov 2015
-2
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I heartily agree that smoking should be allowed in pubs and restaurants which choose to allow it. Unfortunately what your campaign and your correspondents do not appear to understand is that smoking in these places was BANNED BY THE EU! Hence there is no point in discussing this issue because we cannot change an EU ruling. Therefore the smokers, and all the rest of us, have lost 80% of our vote which is the proportion of rules and regulations imposed upon us by un-elected bureaucrats in Brussels.

I have never smoked in my life apart from 1 fag when I was three which nearly choked me to death, so luckily I never bothered after that. However, I am a firm believer in freedom of choice and this is something we have lost and are all paying the EU heavily for while we remain in the EU. I do believe that smoking should be banned in public places where smokers and non-smokers have to mix. That is a law which our useless politicians in Westminster are fully capable of implementing without having to rely on the EU imposing it.
Barbara58
28th Feb 2016
1
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Thanks for a very sensible post! Let's hope we vote to leave the EU and act like grown ups without anyone else imposing laws on the UK
Dullahan78
28th Oct 2015
5
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NO . I was a heavy smoker for over 60 years and twice i have been admitted to hospital at death's door. I suffer C.O.P.D as a result of smoking.
I gave up and the benefits have improved my life incredibly. I can drive my car again, I use my electric mobility scooter less and can walk more .
Any exposure to cigarette smoke especially for bar staff
thefilthycripple
24th Oct 2015
-5
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Either let smokers smoke in a well ventilated area or ban alcohol ,simple choice !
Tyagi
21st Oct 2015
4
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As someone with a chronic lung condition, I have returned to the pleasure of my local pub since the smoking ban. There is no efficient way of extracting the smoke from 'smoking areas' to stop it from drifting around to a non-smoking area. Smokers believe this because they can't smell it themselves. ( I speak as somebody who used to smoke before my breathing problems !)
efitz
16th Oct 2015
5
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more pubs are turning to eating places and it is only right that no smoking should apply.If people want to go out side that is up to them,i would say that the smokers are selfish if they go out in a company they spend more time outside and leave their non smoking friends on there own,some company. also electronic cigarettes are not the answer due to the fumes that come of them
britmale
11th Oct 2015
-3
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As I watch Hundreds of Pubs close down because the smoking fraternity are staying away and drinking at home, I can only say that a smoking room should be allowed in public houses and restaurants. People are sensible enough to make their own choices and not enter those places they don't want to be. Please not before you shout, I am a non smoker
Kentucky Kid
19th Oct 2015
9
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You are conveniently ignoring all those who do not go to a pub - tourists included - due to the smoke. The odious and boozey Farage shows scant regard for those around him, while blithely sucking away and ignoring the impact on employees health - some of whom could be pregnant women.
britmale
26th Oct 2015
1
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I am not saying that people should be able to smoke in the main pub but in a separate air conditioned and filtered room. You have to be fair to all people even those who smoke. After all I could see you all up in arms if I wanted all vehicles banned from the roads because their fumes damage my health. The smog in my city has damaged my lungs, so there is no excuse for everyone else to subject me to their smoke. You see where I am coming from, we all do things that damage others, I don't smoke or drink or drive. Smoking rooms in pubs are just a tip of the iceburg that the people who want to control others will be sailing towards
HelLiz
26th Nov 2015
2
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It's NOT the smoking ban keeping people away from the pubs because plenty of people still smoke who go to the pubs but go outside to smoke. It's the pub companies charging too much for their drinks.
Joan Fraser
12th Dec 2015
1
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It is in fact the smoking ban that has stopped me (and many of my friends) going out at weekends, also stopped me taking long haul flights and/or meeting up socially as often as I used to.

Yes, I am an addict - but not a selfish anti-social person as many people present anyone who smokes. The Income Tax, NI, and Tax on cigarettes I have paid over 46 years will not be expected to pay for NHS treatment should I need it - I have personal health insurance for this

Furthermore, I wouldn't thank Mr Farage for any of his 'dreamland' proposed policies
tobydog
25th Sep 2015
10
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I can't tell you how lovely it is to not have smoking in pubs, aircraft and restaurants. I can remember times when the smoker lit up wherever they wanted with no consideration whatsoever to people around them. Untold times I have had to ask them to move their cigarette which they were holding away from their own face to be blown over the shoulder straight into my space.
I definitely wouldn't want this particularly nasty pastime to return to public places.
maggiemoonlight
19th Sep 2015
6
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I have no idea where you live but find it extremely odd that you should only encounter Scottish and Irish people smoking outside pubs...I wouldn't have thought that outside smoking areas are the exclusive domain of the Irish and Scottish smokers...no English,Welsh or even Polish in your area ??
patmca
11th Sep 2015
4
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As a smoker , no. Smoking should not be allowed anywhere where people are eating or non-smokers are around. However I cannot see why we cannot have smoking rooms in pubs as long as we have standards of air conditioning etc which prevent any impact on other users. Trying to blame the demise of pubs on the smoking ban is nonsense. Pubs fail because there are just not enough customers who want to drink every evening to keep them alive and because they are often nasty environments. Might as well blame the drink drive laws. The world is changing and old style pubs are just a casualty of then change in habits.
Soozie63
14th Aug 2015
15
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It is so much nicer to go out for a drink and a meal and not to come home smelling like an old ash tray! No to returning this.
thefilthycripple
14th Aug 2015
-7
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I am a non smoker but the anti smoking laws remind me of Nazi rule ,some older people who have always smoked ,find it hard to go on holiday because of the hysteria !
modelmaker55
30th Jul 2015
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No one has considered the poor ashtray manufacturers in all this. More attention to the litter laws will increase the need for personal ashtrays that will sit tidily in pockets or handbags. Then we can develope some way of dealing with the stink of baccie breath. Having to stand back a fair way to talk to smokers makes it awkward if you have poor hearing.
dave54
24th Jul 2015
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its no co injcidence that the demise in pubs came about at about the same time as the smoking ban and im fed up with being treated like a child in this nanny state we call britain
Karl.S
27th Jan 2016
1
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It's also very strongly linked to tougher drink driving penalties and the price of booze !
Pikey
17th Jul 2015
0
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All of the people who complained about smokers have not returned to venue's as they said they would if they were non/smoking.
How many more Pub's etc. are going to close.
All we want is a smoking only bar.
Why should we have to stand out in the Cold and Rain to enjoy our pleasure?
Maureen Price
20th Nov 2015
5
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Pikey, did you say pleasure? how can you possibly call sticking a rolled lump of tobacco in
your mouth then setting fire to it a pleasure???
loosebruce
14th Jul 2015
3
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I believe everyone is missing the point of the totally enclosed smoking ban. The ban was introduced to protect people from the dangers of inhaling Secondary smoke (SHS) from tobacco products.
At the time of the debate in 2006, Messrs Pell, Hewitt and Flint stated that 11,000 people were dying every year from inhaling Secondary smoke and 160,000 from FHS.
We have no official record of anyone dying from SHS. ( Mr Castle smoked cigars). ONS states 37,135 (yearly average over ten years) lung cancer deaths per annum but does not say how many were smokers, miners, drug addicts, worked with Asbestos, hereditary related, used Fluoride toothpaste etc etc.. So no clear evidence released by successive governments. Why?
In 2011 major study showed no ill effects from SHS. Study conducted by anti-smoking people!!
Lets show the world. Have smoking and non-smoking venues. Everyone is happy, including me who has seen an incredible amount of Pubs, Clubs and Bingo halls close.
Ask this question of yourself. How many people did you know that died of SHS? Can you name them? What is written of their Death Certificate?
UK is the only place where laws are made of somebodies 'Anti' feeling, rather than fact. Now that's a FACT!!
SHOEFLY
4th Jul 2015
0
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Having to dodge the drunks outside the pub on the high street is very civilised. And the daylight drug dealing is worse.
Barbara58
3rd Jul 2015
3
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I wonder where all the 'A' list celebrities go to smoke when they're dining out or in Clubs?
Can't see them stepping outside to the awaiting paps to have a quick ciggie.

Seriously though, very soon smoking will inevitably be banned outside and in cars so all smokers will be forced to smoke in their garden sheds I suppose, as most won't smoke indoors.

That's ironic, of course, but I strongly believe we are becoming a dictatorial society, very judgemental, selfish and mean spirited.

So.....Let's find a solution which keeps all parties happy.

And never forget the old adage....They shoot horses don't they!
redshoes53
1st Jul 2015
7
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I am deeply disturbed by the anti-smoking hysteria that I have watched develop over the past 20 years. I am of the age that I remember (and it wasn't that long ago) before all of this anti -smoking Jihad started. Some people smoked, some people didn't. People smoked every where - movie theaters; obviously pubs and restaurants; doctors would sit on the end of your bed in a hospital with a ciggie in their hand - yet no one RAN off, choking and gagging and making a gigantic dramatic scene!

One thing that is never mentioned in this debate is the most simple and fundamental common sense solution, and that is: some establishments, whether office or eatery allow smoking and some do not. Let the business owner choose. Is it too much to ask that non-smokers patronize non-smoking establishments? The part I have never understood (and the mentality that scares the you-know-what out of me) is why the extreme anti's insist - DEMAND - on controlling everything and everyone - even places they will never go. What kind of pathology is that? All I know is that it is very scary - the pathology of zealots. How can you not relate to the concept of living your own life as you wish and allowing others to live their lives as they wish? Live and let live?
Roger1946
19th Aug 2016
0
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It is not hysteria it is genuine concern.
It is not common sense to establish an environment that others have to enter and keep clean.
What about the bar staff (who need a job) you clearly don't care about their health.
Hopefully you also agree that the prices charged in smoking areas should be higher due to the increased maintenance costs.
DaveMoran
29th Jun 2015
9
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The voting question is not correctly phrased. Should pubs provide facilities of equal standard for smokers and non smokers? As a smoker I do not want my smoke to inconvenience anyone. But I do not think a shed outside in mid winter or a wooded bench under a 40 watt light is going to interest me in ever going back into a pub. I’ve not been in one since 2007. I’m not a second class citizen. The old Victorian separation of smoking room and lounge was just fine but it should be up to the landlord as to what clientele they wish cater for. Pubs are not public spaces they are private outlets and as such the owner should have the right to choose who they can and cannot serve, not the government. Pubs that cannot serve food are disappearing at an alarming rate. There should be places we as smokers can go and there should be places we cannot. It’s called freedom of choice.
ConnieShack
19th Jun 2015
3
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By the way I am a non smoker.
ConnieShack
19th Jun 2015
4
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Seeing as smoking/selling cigarettes in the UK is legal I think pubs should be able to buy a licence to allow smoking if they wish. Non smokers would then have a choice to either visit pubs that allow smoking or not.
flowerpot
19th Jun 2015
1
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Most pubs now have 'beer gardens' or 'smoking shelters' so i don't think its a problem for smokers.
DaveMoran
29th Jun 2015
2
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flowerpot. Beer gardens only work in the summer and when it shines the non smokers want that place as well and complain about smokers. I don't go to a pub to stand under something I wouldn't lean my bike against. We need facilities where we can sit down socially interact in comfort and feel part of the human race again. We pay £12 billion a year in taxes, that's more than the UK spend on defense. Surly we should be given some respect.
bigken175
18th Jun 2015
2
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smokers pay tax which more than pays for their treatment. No tax on cigarettes how much will our taxes go up?
KathleenR
6th Jun 2015
7
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I don't want to go home smelling like an ashtray!
DaveMoran
29th Jun 2015
1
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We don't want you to go home smelling like an ashtray. But there are air purifiers on the market that scrub the air every 2 seconds for a few hundred pounds that make the indoors cleaner than the outdoor air.

pilgrimm
4th Jun 2015
4
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if people are stupid enough to smoke let them but let them pay for there own medical treatment ,, seeing as they have money to Burn ,,
stevew
29th May 2015
6
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The smoker's proposed freedom impacts too much on the welfare of everyone else both in terms of health - most significant, of course - and their general pleasure in their ambience.
Mrsmollywobbles
29th May 2015
4
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There should be a choice as with everything.
Jim63
29th May 2015
9
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Pubs are now a more pleasant place to go to , no going home smelling of smoke !
jillyanne53
25th May 2015
1
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I recently read a article about the ban on smoking on aeroplanes,when people were allowed to smoke the filters were regularly
changed to deal with the smoke.
now the filters don't get cleaned as often
so air born diseases are allowed to travel
around the plane infecting all.
I for one would rather smell of cigarette smoke
than become very ill or even die from a air born illness.
Karl.S
27th Jan 2016
2
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Ehm if you're sat in a large cylinder breathing the same air as 300 other people some of whom may have an illness transmittance via the air we breath. Then the filter within the forced air system will not protect you even if it is renewed every flight. Your ONLY guaranteed protection is to wear a personal face mask for the entire flight!
If you do that you won't die from an airborne illness Or have to sit in a stinking cloud for hours on end either!
jillyanne53
25th May 2015
4
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my father smoked for most of his life,he died of so called copd doctors had him believe his illness was caused by smoking.
at the inquest the coroner stated the cause of his death was silica and coal dust in his lungs,the first from his job in the potteries,the second from the pit.
if this government told the truth about the air we breath and the food we eat we would know what caused cancer.i wish he had known before he died,
dave54
23rd May 2015
3
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pubs should have had the choice smoking or non smoking dont like dictorial goverments or nanny states
Cas29
21st May 2015
6
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We are at the moment still a Democratic country so people should have the choice as to whether they smoke or not. I do not smoke and I hate the smell of cigarettes but I would be happy for pubs and restaurants to have smoking areas as long as they have a good filter system to take the smoke away. Shops, offices and factories etc should provide somewhere inside for smokers, there is nothing worse than seeing people having to smoke outside the building they work in especially shops on the high street.
headstock68
14th May 2015
5
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its lovely to eat out these days no smell from peoples clothes also in the air,apart from that the cost to health ,plus the cost to your bank balance just keep the ban goin if it was up to me the ciggy factories would be closed down and a complete ban in all places.i could go a lot furfer but i wont .
mickjack
8th May 2015
8
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Why do people thinks it's normal to suck smoke into their lungs
and then blow it out into a room with other people,
The only air you need in your lungs is fresh air,
Hospitals are full of people dying with lung cancer caused by smoking,
geeljay
5th May 2015
3
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I am a smoker. However, the areas where I can smoke are gradually reduced perhaps they should remain 'off limits'
The only way to gradually eliminate smoking for our young.
poppies mummy
29th Apr 2015
3
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I feel that people should have choice as to whether they frequent pubs that have smoking areas, it is unfortunate that so many pubs have closed since the smoking ban, just as Bingo halls have also felt the serious reduction in attendance. I think proprietors should be able to make constructive desisions about their own businesses not the government.
Hearthammer
24th Apr 2015
1
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Fist of all, the smoking ban did not come into force in the UK in July 2007. It came into force in ENGLAND on that day. At least get that right.

As for smoking in pubs, why not smoking and non smoking pubs? Democracy in action!
Stoic
23rd Apr 2015
5
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When the decision has been made, how can you go back on it? There are plenty of more serious questions to be asked and given more serious debate than bringing back smoking in pubs. Any out door parts of a drinking establishment is another matter, which is no different than the street itself. Mixed with fresh air surely is the only way to be friendly with smokers who are smoking.
nagonthenet
22nd Apr 2015
5
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I have only just started to go into pubs after about 35 years. I will stop again if smoking is re-introduced
PatriciaH2
22nd Apr 2015
9
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Definitely not. The smell gets in your clothes and no one wants to sit next to a smoker in the pub blowing smoke in your face.
joant2574
20th Apr 2015
2
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I see nothing wrong if it is kept in a separate room like the old snug type room!
shunter
19th Apr 2015
2
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As Already stated "Do NOT FORCE others (Me included) To
inhale dangerous by-products of your disgusting smelly habit
I already suffer bronchil problems after years in the mining industry And don't want them aggrievating by inconsiderate
nicotine addicts that cant wait til they get home to light up
ElleSurfer
17th Apr 2015
6
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Even smokers admitted to hating how they stank after a night out. I wouldn't be able to socialise if they brought back smoking in clubs. It's one thing to have "one" rude person smoking while you're trying to eat or walking past a group of smokers at club entrances and briefly choking but allowing smoking in clubs was never a good idea. It's simply too much smoke. You can't breathe, you have nose bleeds the next day and everyone hates how their clothes smell. Is the ban actually hurting any smokers? I worry about people voting for "leaders" who make laws to please themselves rather than based on what's best for the country's citizens. This idiot is too narrow-minded to be a good leader. He can't sacrifice his own petty desires to do the right thing.
dianabarrie1940
17th Apr 2015
5
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No smoking should not be allowed in any public place. It is a very anti social habit.
Chezzykins
17th Apr 2015
5
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Definitely not its much more enjoyable having a meal in a pub or restaurant without having to inhale someone else's smoke and much healthier. Especially forthose of us with asthma
cheshiredolphin
17th Apr 2015
6
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I have voted YES but must add the caveat that the decision should be left with the Publican, who should clearly display a notice that states 'This Pub welcomes smokers' at all entrances.
Internal extractors and fans blowing the air away from the bar (to protect bar staff) would be useful.
A separate room if available (like the old snug) could also be designated if the pub was big enough.
The same sign should be posted outside restaurants.
The public would then have a choice, to enter or go somewhere else, leaving the Publican/Restaurant to measure and respond to customer demand.
valjane67
16th Apr 2015
1
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I am an ex smoker and believe that banning smoking in public places helped me to give up. I also believe that electronic cigs should be banned from public places.
fayemairi
15th Apr 2015
11
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Smokers have a choice whether or not to smoke and I believe that should not be taken away however, I chose NOT to smoke therefore shouldn't be forced on me by passive smoking!!!! In other words.....smoke if you like cos I don't care, but do not bring it into MY personal space and force it upon me!!!!
cliogirl123
15th Apr 2015
-6
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I presume all the pious NO voters DON'T benefit from the huge amounts of cash injected into the governments coffers by smokers, or do they?!
Just a thought
fayemairi
15th Apr 2015
0
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What I do object to is the amount if money wasted by the NHS on self inflicted illnesses caused by smoking!!!! Including passive smoking!!!
cliogirl123
17th Apr 2015
5
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Fayemairi I feel it's wrong to pick out One group of people that indulge in a so called antisocial pastime - The same could be said about drinkers and overeaters
cliogirl123
17th Apr 2015
5
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What about the money spent on people who drink, or for that matter, the people who are assaulted etc by drunks?? What about people that overeat?? The NHS spend on
these 'antisocial' behaviors aswell!! But I don't see anyone giving them a hard time, which, in my humble opinion is very very wrong.
SovereignInventory
28th Mar 2015
-5
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Sir, you know nothing of my life so I do not accept your uneducated comment regarding my 'joyless' life. I have no mortgage, own properties in this country and abroad, am quite healthy, have a great family and circle of friends, drive quality motor dars,plus do not have to work in dull, vacuous job for my money, instead I work about 10 hours a week from home. You must have a supremely brilliant life if you call mine joyless. Your comment would not be allowed on other forums that I contribute to and am quite disappointed that Silversurfers allow you to make perrsonal , derogatory comments.
SovereignInventory
28th Mar 2015
-4
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The above comments were made in response to a personal, derogatory comment about my private life but the comments have since been removed.
minty
28th Mar 2015
-2
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No smoking in pubs or in public in general
Florence Scholar
27th Mar 2015
2
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It shouldn't be reintroduced universally & certainly not where food is served or infants, children & other people who lack the capacity to make a conscious choice about being in that environment are present. However, in well ventilated, separate areas where competent adults make the choice to go & staff aren't under any pressure to work: then why not? The smoking ban has killed the live music scene in pubs & clubs & the change in income from alcohol to food has seen countless business close down. I am not your Nanny & neither are you mine; so let's be mature & sensible about this...
Terotech1
15th Jan 2016
1
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How has the smoking ban killed live music? Loud solo 'singers' with louder backing tracks are one of the main reasons for the drop in attendance by music lovers......note the use of the modulator 'music'.
Scattered and desultary applause doesn't worry these 'artists'.....who see their £120.00 plus payout at the end of the night as their just reward for shouting their way through a few songs.
Agents demanding higher and higher fees are also basically inherent to the problem.
From long personal experience on the live side of the microphone, I reckon that most bands and other entertainers would be happier and healthier in a smoke free atmosphere.
celtwitch
10th Mar 2015
9
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I'm glad that smoking is banned in public places, it means we can enjoy a meal, or a drink without having to breathe in the noxious fumes from a nicotine addicts cigarette at the next table. I gave up going into pubs long before the ban came into force, because of the fumes, the overflowing ashtrays and the fact that the clothes I had worn that evening had to go in the washing machine on returning home.
However, I realise that smoking is a powerful addiction( harder to kick than heroin, I'm told!) so it's unrealistic to expect the habit to disappear for many more decades.
A reasonable compromise, given that poor smokers now have to stand at the pub door, like rain-lashed, wind-blown victims of cruel government legislation, might be to install glass screens between smoking and non smoking rooms in some pubs. That way the addicts could communicate with their more sensible non smoker friends through the use of some sort of sign language.
Seems reasonable to me, what do you think?
Whitehaven
19th Apr 2015
3
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Yes a reasonable compromise sounds good - perhaps smokers area and non-smoking areas - so people have their own choice then. Smoking used to be the fashion not that long ago!!! Drinking alcohol is just as bad in excess!!!
Hearthammer
24th Apr 2015
1
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I'm surprised that the people going on about "noxious fumes" haven't commented on the "noxious fumes" emanating from their cars! Flying into London (or any really big city) on a clear day shows a large yellow haze of pollution above the city. You breathe in far more noxious fumes every day but that seems to be ok! But, be my guest, have a go at smokers. They're a visible and easy target!
Barbara58
3rd Jul 2015
0
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JOHNEVE
10th Mar 2015
9
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No way should smoking be a allowed in any closed in public areas. When we go to other countries and see that smoking is allowed in areas that are closed in, we do not use those places. The smell is so bad from the smoke, but smokers do not realise just how bad it is. If Farage thinks this will get him in power then he needs to rethink. There is no way he will get my vote if he continues with this.
reachhigh
7th Mar 2015
1
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I think pubs and restaurants etc should be able to offer smoking areas within their establishments.
When I travel to south Africa, all bars have smoking areas so people can choose where to sit according to their preference. The bar still benefits and non smokers have peace of mind too. The government can help by offering grants to existing businesses to install these areas at a low cost or even take vat off to reduce the costs. Smoking areas are the norm in other countries and it works really well in terms of keeping customers.
valjane67
16th Apr 2015
2
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I do not think the government should give taxpayers money to erect smoking areas , perhaps the tobacco companies should be asked to 'cough up'
Whitehaven
19th Apr 2015
0
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Thoroughly agree with you. I also agree with others on here to - why should smokers be austresised - I would rather be in a pub with just smokers than loud mouthed drunks looking for trouble.
MrsPuddleduck
6th Mar 2015
10
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I would not go to any place that allowed smoking, and probably countless others would not either.
SovereignInventory
6th Mar 2015
6
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It never ceases to amaze me how selfish smokers are in their attitude to their filthy, disgusting habit. In the future, people will honestly not believe that we as a society manufactured cigarettes made from god knows what chemicals (arsenic & cyanide to name but a few), set fire to it in as confined space, inhaled it into our lungs, then 'enjoyed' it. The whole activity should be totally banned from anywhere public as well. I am sick of walking through a foul smelling haze if I go shopping, smokers even placing a cigarette in their mouths before leaving a shop because they cannot wait to inhale the toxins and poisons. Yes, as you can gather I am really anti smoking but I have lost friends and relatives too early due to smoking. All of my friends wish they had never started but its now too late I'm afraid. As you can see by my photo image I used to play guitar in bands down the years and I used to have to put my gewar out in the garden the morning after a gig as even my guitars and amps etc... used to stink of stale tobacco. If people want to smoke then they should do it in the confines of their homes and nowhere else.
MichaelJMcFadden
7th Mar 2015
-2
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Sovereign, four points if I may....

1) In terms of your concerns about arsenic, are you aware that even if you sat in a smoking pub for 165,000 hours you'd only be getting the same amount of arsenic as you'd get from drinking a government-approved-as-safe pint of tapwater? Seriously. Do the math on it and you'll find I'm correct. You've been frightened over nothing,

2) In terms of the "foul smelling haze" you encounter when you walk out from shops onto the public sidewalk where people are smoking, you'd have to walk out of such shops and directly through a classic "doorway cloud of smokers" roughly 250 *million* times to get, on average, one single case of lung cancer (figures derived from the EPA Report with corrections for dilution and durations of exposure.) Again, you've been frightened over nothing.

3) You say you want smokers to smoke in their homes, yet I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that you'd support bans in those homes if they happened to be in apartment buildings. Or are you against such bans?

4) You speak practically from a script you should realize when you spout images of hate about smokers' "filthy, disgusting habit." Check out the 3'x4' Wall Poster that people are welcome to freely download and reproduce as a mind-opener: See my bitly link to it at http://bit.ly/WallOfHate

5) As far as the "poisons" from manufactured cigarettes, perhaps you'd like to buttress your efforts to guarantee smokers' freedoms to smoke in their own homes and apartments with a further effort to reduce the 1,000% or so tax rate upon pure, loose, tobacco in the UK? It would certainly help your effort to appear consistent in your thinking, even if we still might disagree on some things.

Check out that poster... and see just how you'd fit in.

- MJM
SovereignInventory
7th Mar 2015
7
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May I take the opportunity to thank you for replying and your comments. It is obvious that we will have to agree to disagree. The main point I am making is the selfish attitude of certain smokers who believe they have a right to smoke but at the expense of people who choose not to. To elaborate, if a smoker decides to light up outside of a shop or walk along in a public place, why should I as a non-smoker have to also breathe the smoke in if I walk behind them our have to pass by them outside of a shop doorway ? That is why I call smokers selfish. If they want to breathe the foul smelling stuff in, just do it in your own home not in my face. I use words like filthy, foul smelling as that unfortunately how it appears to me (and many others). The health issues also speak for themselves - do you really believe that inhaling any cigarette smoke is good for the human body and is truly healthy?
MichaelJMcFadden
7th Mar 2015
-2
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Well, we agree on some things though: We both feel that smokers should be free to smoke in their homes, which for most Americans means in their apartment.

As far as "walking behind smokers" if the smoke annoys you, why would you do that? If I'm walking along and two people walking in front of me start having a loud argument, I'll simply slow down or speed up for a few seconds to put some space between us. I wouldn't want there to be a law saying that people had to talk in whispers out on the street just so I never have to hear any saying anything that might upset me.

And actually we might agree on something else: Government-mandated smoking bans should be eliminated for the most part so that smokers will tend to go to places indoors where other people smoke or hang out happily with smokers, and there'd be a lot fewer people out on the sidewalks bothering you! What state/city are you located in? Maybe you could help get rid of a ban in your area and reduce your exposure to the "foul smelling stuff."

Sound like a good idea?

😕
MJM
SovereignInventory
7th Mar 2015
4
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Hi MJM,
Thanks for putting a structured, sensible argument to this topic, rather than trying to make personal, ill thought out comments as others have tried. As previously said, I believe we will have to agree to disagree. My main point is that I shouldn't have to breath in cigarette smoke if I do not choose to do so. I have nothing against anyone who chooses to smoke but why should I as a non-smoker have to breath the stuff in? As stated, whatever anyone wants to do in the privacy of their own home I have no problem with at all.
MichaelJMcFadden
7th Mar 2015
-1
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Sovereign,

You wrote, "As previously said, I believe we will have to agree to disagree. My main point is that I shouldn't have to breath in cigarette smoke if I do not choose to do so. I have nothing against anyone who chooses to smoke but why should I as a non-smoker have to breath the stuff in?"

I don't think we have to agree to disagree. It sounds like we might agree in some areas. We've already agreed that people should not be banned from smoking in their own homes, right?

I would also fully agree that you should not be forced to breathe in things you do not want to. No one has the right to force you to enter a business that allows smoking. If they try to physically force you to do so, then you should have them arrested.

In terms of public thoroughfares and enormous dilutions and easily avoidable exposures, you're barking up a different tree though. What about heavy perfume? If you don't like it you shouldn't be forced to walk closely behind the blue-haired lady who's reeking of it. Should she be banned from sidewalks until she takes a shower? Should she be ticketed or hauled off to jail for violating the "smell-free" public space? Or should you be expected to just mumble to yourself, "Ick. Another perfume lady. I'll stop walking for about three seconds so she gets 8 feet in front of me instead of 2 feet, or maybe I'll walk a couple of feet closer to the curb or the shops depending on how the wind is blowing." Which do you think would be the better solution? The law? Or you changing your walking patterns when you encountered the problem.

OH! Also: you seem to have missed it: Did you agree with this? :

"Government-mandated smoking bans should be eliminated for the most part so that smokers will tend to go to places indoors where other people smoke or hang out happily with smokers, and there'd be a lot fewer people out on the sidewalks bothering you! What state/city are you located in? Maybe you could help get rid of a ban in your area and reduce your exposure to the "foul smelling stuff." "

It would certainly help you out!

😕
MJM
minty
28th Mar 2015
5
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I so agree ! I worked in hospitals all my life and saw the horrendous effects of smoking !
tel-boy
6th Mar 2015
1
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I have smoked for 55 years, since I started work at 15. I don't drink though, never have done. The thought of pouring liquid poison down my throat really turns me off. Ok smoking is also bad but at 71 I enjoy it. I don't smoke in the house, in any car and in no one else's house and I do not go to pubs at all. I cant see any reason why smoking should be banned in pubs, a separate room for smokers and non smokers. Today's technology in air system engineering if far advanced, I know it is, I am a retired Engineer, and if installed in any pub no one would even know there was smoke present in any room. I have friends who both drink and smoke but stay at home doing both as the pubs don't allow smoking inside. That is money lost by the public houses, but there's another side as well. Supermarket alcohol is a lot cheaper than buying it at a pub, you can stay at home with friends, watch TV, have a smoke and a cheap drink and enjoy life without all the public hassle and hue and cry about smokers. Just get on with life for goodness sake!!!!!!!
ckitis
5th Mar 2015
1
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Of course smoking should be brought back into pubs and bars, that's what those places are for, for having carefree fun and entertainment without any burden, nobody can deny that and yet everybody is not allowed to smoke there. Why?
nagonthenet
2nd Mar 2015
6
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After years of not going into pubs we now do so from time to time. Reason: no horrendous filthy smoke!
jugsy
26th Feb 2015
6
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I never want to go back to smelling of smoke every time I want to go out for a drink.
I have been a smoker and the smell and expense made me stop.
sueor
26th Feb 2015
4
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The smoking ban has meant I can enjoy going out to pubs and still breath! Tobacco smoke is one of the triggers for my asthma and smokers compromised my social life for years. It's a dirty, antisocial habit. I'd like to see it banned in all public spaces, indoor and out.
HootingBadger
25th Feb 2015
12
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One of the comments you often hear from people who smoke is that there seems to be a lot of hostility and nose wrinkling towards smokers in a way that never used to happen. I think they're right, but that is just a natural process following the smoke free law - our noses have just all become a lot more sensitised to the smell of tobacco smoke. You no longer smell it all the time on buses, in shopping malls, cinemas, trains and in restaurants so it stands out more as the noxious smell it is. UKIP can debate this all they like - but most businesses know that allowing something that less than a fifth of people now do would be an economic death wish for many establishments.
My wife and I used to smoke pre-kids and when they were very young and we never realised what the smell was like. You just don't - that's quite a sad thing. I gave up a few weeks before her and recall the bitter stench of stale tobacco on clothes as she came in from outside. God knows what it must have been like for our baby son to smell that.
No, most people have no wish to go back to the "good old days" when non-smokers had to just put up and shut up.
MrsPuddleduck
7th Mar 2015
2
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Really? You should get statistics before you state things, I have always been a non smoker and was forced to inhale smoke even when a baby , as my parents smoked and everywhere I went where others smoked, my father died at 56 from bowel cancer, and I had womb cancer at age 49, and have seen the horrible suffering of others with cancers, like throat cancer etc, when having cancer treatment. Young children are having to inhale the smoke of their parents by no choice of their own, and even if some elderly people "survived" as you said, the younger generations of those families are probably the ones suffering with illnesses now because of them
MichaelJMcFadden
7th Mar 2015
0
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Hooting, do you really believe this?

"most businesses know that allowing something that less than a fifth of people now do would be an economic death wish for many establishments."

If so, then clearly you should have no objection at all to the gvt-imposed ban being lifted. After all, "most businesses" would keep the ban on their own since businesses don't usually have "an economic death wish" -- and those that do.... well, they'd die and be gone!

So can we count you as a good solid opponent of the smoking bans then?

- MJM
MrsPuddleduck
8th Mar 2015
3
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You said: As for your other silly statement "and have seen the horrible suffering of others with cancers....

How can that be a silly statement????

When I was suffering cancer and the treatment, I was staying in the same place as these people I spoke about, there is nothing silly about that!!! You wouldn't want to go through what I went through either.

I agree that narrow minded people like you will make others freedom of opinion sound silly as you said, the only bigot must be you.
Of course people can choose to smoke if they want to but not deny others their freedom of choice as well. All some people are saying is that they are defending smokers and not non smokers, even the government realise and know the damage that smoking does, as they have adverts and campaigns now about it.
I only wanted to defend the rights of those of us who were forced to breathe in others smoke when babies or kids or where ever we travelled on public transport etc and in everyones house that smoked and would not let us open a window or door in a public place, thats what we suffered and told not to be so fussy!! Where was the freedom of choice there??
ANON
24th Feb 2015
11
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Give smokers an inch and they will take a mile. Keep up the attack against smoking - otherwise smokers in denial, will gradually creep back into our lives. Please!
ginnyb17
21st Feb 2015
10
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Most smokers I know do not object to going outside whether they are at pubs or peoples houses so why take a retrograde step?
jenniealpha
21st Feb 2015
11
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I feel that since the ban was introduced more people have given up smoking. To bring it back would undo all the good of not smelling like an ashtray and being able to eat food in a clean environment without breathing in cancer building fumes. Once something like this has made more of the population healthier, why go back to the dirty smelly old days.
teltheniker
19th Feb 2015
4
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I wouldn't even allow smokers to smoke in the middle of Salisbury Plain!
ChrisfromBolton
6th Mar 2015
-4
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Looks to me like you're a control freak anxious to force your opinion onto others! Good luck in your endeavours....hope you don't travel north of Salisbury!
MrsPuddleduck
7th Mar 2015
1
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yeah but that is exactly what smokers were doing to others who do not smoke and especially babies and children.
Beach Boy
17th Feb 2015
11
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Remember when you came home from the pub smelling like a full ashtray?
No going back!
rustie
15th Feb 2015
3
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pubs who allow smoking are no more than a chapel of rest.
ANON
28th Feb 2015
3
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When I see a smoker in action, I see a pallid sickly guilty looking dead person.
countrylass
14th Feb 2015
4
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I'm voting UKIP but am totally against smoking in any public place. (I'm a retired nurse)
Kezziedog
22nd Feb 2015
3
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Please "countrylass" do look at ALL UKIPs policys ..... before you vote. Yes I am also against smoking in all "public places " also , I am amazed how easy the law was brought in , and adhered to .
I am also a retired nurse !
ANON
28th Feb 2015
1
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Regret unable to vote on this - am I voting on the former (no) or the latter (yes)?
Reality_Cheque
12th Feb 2015
0
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There are about 57,000 pubs in the UK, and about half are owned by a relatively few pub companies and regional breweries. If these pub companies and breweries were allowed to permit smoking in up to a certain number (say, half for example) of their pubs, then smokers will be catered for AND people will still have a choice.

I prefer smoke-free pubs, but I'm not fascist about this. They don't ALL have to be smoke-free.
Florence Scholar
27th Mar 2015
0
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At last a reasonable, mature perspective! Thank you.
ezmeralda
12th Feb 2015
-7
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Its a bit late now..so many pubs and bingo halls have closed..this was mainly due to the smoking ban..and the smokers that still come out miss out on a few drinks due to going outside..also cleaners lost hours of work ,due to no ashtrays to clean.and lack of customers..painters have lost work..it was a massive knock on effect..but what is so upsetting is to see the elderly outside smoking .these people who went through so much in there younger days .and have to stand in the rain or freezing cold to have a puff.and as for all the none smokers,i dont think they made any difference to our pubs..or so many would not have shut...
jenniealpha
21st Feb 2015
3
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I know that many people may have lost work like painters cleaners etc, but spare a thought for those workers who have to breathe the ciggy smoke in while they work. For them as each person lights up a ciggy, the workforce are like smoking non stop all the smoke from those people. They will be like the dogs that used to test smoke in labs. Do we really want to go back to those cancer riddled days when we now know that passive smoking is worse than being a smoker yourself
Dragonmum
25th Feb 2015
2
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I was interested in the comment that "... we now know that passive smoking is worse than being a smoker yourself" Could you please link to any research or citation that confirms this? In the five years since I kicked my 60+year smoking habit and switched to vaping (electronic cigarettes) I have done a massive amount of research on the subject but, until now, have never seen that claim even from the most dedicated ANTZ (anti-nicotine and tobacco zealots). I am still engaged in this research since, despite vaping being 95% - 99% safer than smoking, there are vested interests such as Big Tobacco and Big Pharma, not to mention Governments with their eyes on diminished tobacco revenues, who are intent on subjecting vaping to the same laws as smoking.
Not only do I believe that the anti-smoking laws were divisive and based on very questionable research, I am becoming more and more convinced that they had very little to do with Public Health - if that were the case then surely they would have welcomed the massively safer option of vaping with open arms. There are now something like 29 million e-cig users Euro-wide, 2 +million here in UK and. since the vast majority of us are those ex-smokers who were demonised over the last decades as evil-smelling lepers, we are quite determined to oppose any bans. Should anyone be in doubt about the advisability of switching to vaping I can only say that in all the years since e-cigs took off not one single fatality has resulted from the proper use. If you want to go on smoking, that is your right and your choice and there should be as much provision made for your comfort as for that of non-smokers - you are, after all, contributing £12billion per annum in revenue as against the £2-3 billion that smoking disease costs the NHS.
tel-boy
6th Mar 2015
1
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I 100% agree with you comments Dragonmum.
Civilwords
3rd Jul 2015
-2
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In total agreement with your comments, I have always believed non smoking was a middle class thing and was and is driven by the middle classes.
buxb
11th Feb 2015
3
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Smoking and Alcohol are drugs and a very good tax collecting system for the Government. I have witnessed many lives that have been cut short due to these so called soft drugs and I do not think the right to clean air should be part of politics. However if people want to smoke themselves silly in prepared places away from the mainstream of a pub or public place then so be it.
dave moran
10th Feb 2015
2
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The choice should be the right of the owner not the Government. Market forces should determine what happens. There are plenty of outlets who cannot serve food and with air purifiers in smoking rooms they can make these rooms cleaner than the outside air and odor free. Many pubs are crying out for a relaxation in the laws as they are on their knuckle bones. The Germans have done it the Dutch have done it. It's common sense.
davemall
10th Feb 2015
10
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I smoked for 50 years and gave it up when I realised that it made my new partner physically sick. She actually vomited although I had had no idea it made her feel so awful.
I never regretted stopping although I did really regret the stupid and witless way that I had stuck this filthy muck in my mouth so so many years. I swore that I would never be judgmental but after a while I only had to stand near someone smoking or a public smoking area to understand how awful it smells.
I do not want to go into a pub to come out again stinking of smoke, with ruined clothes and foul breath. Never again.
Please go ahead if you want but I just will never go anywhere again where is has been legal again.
I read someone say that is a matter of choice but it is not a choice for the poor sod being polluted.
roverT33
10th Feb 2015
2
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I think it should be freedom of choice. It's us who should choose what we want to do. There should be an area set aside away from the bar for smokers. I stayed in a guest house while I was waiting to get rehoused. And the owner didn't smoke and she asked all her tenants if they smoked as she had the house where she stayed and another one further up the road that she called the annexe. No smokers stayed in the main house while smokers went up the road to the annexe. She said that it was cheaper for her as the no smoking house's decorating lasted four times longer than the one with the smokers in. So It makes sense that smokers should have a separate smoking area...
oldjimmy
10th Feb 2015
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if our mps got their desired complete ban on nicotine products billions of tax revenue would be lost,so why are they so keen on this and the answer to that is they gain more power in the desire for more social engineering. research will show that tobacco products can reduce or stop some mind dumbing down altering brain functions
power is the name of the game and not smelly ash trays or shirts .
whats wrong with free choice for all ? and not one faction imposing no choice on another think about the big picture
vulcan12
9th Feb 2015
-1
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I have read all the comments on here. I am a smoker and find the freedom of choice, Big Brother like.The Goverment is making money out of me every day, but I am being treated like a leper. At work I have to go outside to a bus shelter type effort which can not be totally enclosed, even though it is only used by smokers. I feel my human rights are being ignored, there is no heating but we still go out there. I am sure there are some people I work with who go on their breaks and over eat, which could lead to other health problems such as Diabetes, which is a huge problem in this country now and costing the NHS millions. I have also worked in a hospital and the smoking room was not big enough, it was not just the cleaning staff, it was doctors and nurses also, educated people who know the risks. I would just like to say to all the holier than thou when they have finished with the smokers, who are they going to pick on next? Perhaps the dog owners who let their dogs foul the footpaths or the obese who now cost the NHS so much money as in America or the people who drink to excess, be careful who you cast the first stone at, and I am not God fearing. It is a slippery slope, be very careful what you wish for, the Goverment might pick on you next. I like going to my local pub, but now we have the young children, which is as annoying as anything and spoils my enjoyment with their screaming and running around. I have children but would never have put that on other pub goers. And just to end this rant, why am I not allowed to smoke on a train station platform if it is in the open, total madness.
marty24
11th Feb 2015
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All comments you made spot on mate
ANON
23rd Feb 2015
4
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I hate the smell of cigarettes, ESPECIALLY in the open air. Smokers sometimes say that "...a couple of puffs and it's gone", so what about putting a plastic bag over your head, tied round your neck, while you are smoking? I used to work in an office and the smell of cigarettes was most distressing, but the smokers would not listen to me when I suggested they smoked, eg. menthol fags, which smell of virtually nothing. During the interval at our local community centre, smokers stand just outside the automatic doors, so that the smoke drifts in, but don't worry, they are getting the benefit of the warm air from the inside. I suppose that I am being selfish in thinking that smokers should not be selfish. And what about the fag ends that litter the streets - a relic of the days before filter tips, when the next shower of rain would wash the obnoxious things away? Also, what about the burning fag end that a guide dog might step on?
Just a few thoughts!
HootingBadger
25th Feb 2015
2
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You might not like the law and feel your human rights are being restricted, but what about the people who you would happily share your smoke with indoors? They should have greater rights not to breathe in your smoke, and thankfully they now do.
I can assure you most people are really pleased that you can't light up where you want to.
As for dog walkers, I myself own a dog but would happily cheer on wardens giving owners fines for letting their pets foul footpaths and pavements. In fact I've been known to march up to owners myself who've walked away from a steaming pile and ask them if they're happy for the next child to come along and step in in. They're usually deeply ashamed. Its a disgusting thing.
rmsuk28
8th Feb 2015
5
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I think it should stay banned i am a non smoker before the ban if u went to a pub you would come put smelling like an ash tray clothes had to go in then wash, pubs are a much more pleasent place to be without smoke
MichaelJMcFadden
10th Feb 2015
1
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rmsuk, you say, "pubs are a much more pleasent place to be without smoke" and it's fine that you should feel that way and seek out pubs that ban smoking. In the same way, teetotalers who hate going home smelling like a brewery, or vegans who hate the stink of burned animal corpses can seek out pubs that THEY find more pleasant as well.

But would you want those groups to pass a universal ban against beer or cooked meat in pubs?

- MJM
davemall
10th Feb 2015
5
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Cannot agree I do not mean to be offensive or rude here but I realise now just how putrid I used to smell.
Wilf
10th Feb 2015
1
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Putrid is quite strong Dave!
rustie
15th Feb 2015
4
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go to your local hospital and visit the chest clinic ward and see what smoking does. putrid is not strong enough.
MrsPuddleduck
7th Mar 2015
1
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But beer and cooked meat are not being forced into another persons body like the smoke is!
38Trish
17th Apr 2015
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whilst at the hospital checking out the smokers just check out the drug users who cost the NHS more than smokers and that is a fact!
MichaelJMcFadden
8th Feb 2015
-4
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There's no sound reason in the world why smoking needs to be banned by government mandate in all pubs. If the "health of the workers" was the real concern, they'd also be banning all outdoor daytime serviced patio dining/drinking due to the risk of solar radiation causing early and painful deaths due to skin cancer. Sure, sunscreen and awnings help REDUCE the risk, but hey, risk reduction of smoke through ventilation or filtration was decided to be useless, right: better to just have a total ban, eh?

Sounds nonsensical, right? But it's no more nonsensical than a total ban on smoking in all pubs!

- MJM
JohnMartin
9th Feb 2015
1
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I think you have missed the point about passive smoking???
MichaelJMcFadden
10th Feb 2015
-4
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John, you wrote, "I think you have missed the point about passive smoking???"

Not at all... unless you're being humorous? Smoking was banned on the basis of workers being unwillingly exposed to a carcinogen that was not an "inherent and necessary" part of the drinking and dining experience. That was the rationale for why the ban had to be universal rather than left up to the owners. To be consistent, then the *SAME* rationale should be used to ban serviced outdoor dining and drinking -- even more so since the majority of studies on secondary smoke exposure and lung cancer are unable to find even a basic statistically significant link between the two (See http://bit.ly/ETSTable ) while almost every study on sun exposure and malignant melanoma is significant.

Do I seriously think either one should be banned by government mandate? No. But the crazies would disagree.

- MJM
sparks
6th Feb 2015
0
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Yes it should be allowed...I agree enclosed public places should remain as non smoking...but even irregular (social) smokers enjoy a cigarette when out drinking....non smokers can't have it all their way...we can no longer smoke in restaurant's, public transport, airports etc so at least let smokers enjoy a night out with a drink and a smoke after a busy week.
mazd10
6th Feb 2015
-1
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Yes it should be allowed back in,the government are that slow they haven't realised that when they banned smoking pubs started to close down and that's when government were Loosing millions from tax,just goes to show how thick they are?
Gibbo27
6th Feb 2015
2
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I have no problem with smokers but if you choose to smoke do it outside please
pieinthesky
6th Feb 2015
5
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If a pub has a Snug or what used to be the Public Bar, it would be helpful to allow smoking in those areas. So many of our traditional pubs are closing; the smoking ban is a contributory factor I believe.
charlotte-nb
6th Feb 2015
5
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I find it completely outrageous that this is even being considered. There is constant publicity and advertisement about the effects and health damages of smoking, even on the cigarette packets, therefore doing this will only increase the number of smokers again? Why should other people suffer, and have to leave premises not only having a disgusting stench, but with tobacco roaming in our lungs in a place we have gone to enjoy ourselves and feel comfortable.
Dragonmum
2nd Feb 2015
10
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This is not a "Yes" or "No" situation. Why can we not just give the landlords or owners of these premises the right to choose whether they will allow smoking or not? We have now reached the insane situation where people want electronic cigarettes banned in public houses/places - no-one suffers from the use of these, neither the user nor those around them and they are certainly far less obnoxious than heavy perfumes, aftershave or indeed the little darlings who are now the bane of those of us who see a pub as a place for adults rather than a creche.
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
8
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I totally utterly agree with you. No ones talking about lifting the ban everywhere but if there were a few places where you were actually allowed to smoke, how pkeasant it would be to have that feedom of choice again.
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
2
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At least if smoking is allowed there will be pubs where people can sit in the warmth and comfort with a drink and a cigarette. It doesn't have to be all pubs. The landlords can decide. If there are smoking and non smoking pubs, then there is a choice. Everything nowadays seems to be for the non smokers. The smokers get the worst deal of everything. Why? Its a pleasurable habit and causes alot less problems than excessive drinking.
Deanne Santini
2nd Feb 2015
3
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I love going out to a local country publ Prior to the non-smoking ban, I didn't enjoy going out to a Pub as I detested coming home with my clothes smelling like an ashtray. Even when Weatherspoons, introduced no smoking areas (they always had good ventilation installed), the smoke always travelled around to the whole of the vincinity of the public house.

I ask what about the employees; many have forgotten about them? Why should they have to work in smokey public houses.
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
3
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If there are smoking and non smoking pubs, the employees can work in the non smoking pubs if they prefer. Surely if there was a choice, non smoking people like yourself could stick to the non smoking pubs and avoid the ones that allow smoking. Since the ban, so many pubs are closing and soon there won't be any pubs left for you to enjoy.
Wilf
4th Feb 2015
4
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If you are a non smoker why should you work in a smoky bar. I am a former smoker -Marlboro-loved em..but its not a good idea to smoke..proved to shorten your life and others..why would you do it?
jaypbee
2nd Feb 2015
7
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I am amazed that the vote is so high for bringing it back. I think the non smokers are missing out on making their vote. It has been lovely to be able to go out of an evening and come home smelling a nice as when you go out. Why do non smokers have to come home smelling to high heaven of smoke, through their clothes, hair and items they have with them. Smokers say they have their rights restricted, non smokers have their rights restricted to clean healthy air around them. If smokers want to increase their cancer risk why should I have to as well when I dont smoke.
KEEP THE BAN
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
0
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Have a choice! Then you can stick to a non smoking pub while we smokers are again able to enjoy an evening out. The ban should be partial then everyones happy. Non smokers have it all their own way. They have no consideration for people who like to enjoy a cigarette with their drink. If the ban was removed and it was left to the landlord's discretion, I'm sure there would still be non smoking pubs for the people who don't like smoke. Oh and I suppose you don't mind coming home with your clothes smelling of BO. I'm told thats what pubs smell of now. I don't go to pubs anymore since the smoking ban.
Wilf
4th Feb 2015
2
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Maybe we should stop all industry, cars etc and go back to prehistoric times?
tel-boy
6th Mar 2015
1
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You have hit the button on the head "HandymanPhil"
There are also 200 Volcano's that erupt every single day of every year pouring poisonous gasses into the atmosphere. One day of eruption from Iceland's volcano wiped out 20 years of the pollution caused my man alone and it erupted for 5 days. Volcanic ash causes cancer as volcanic carcinogens are almost 1000 times stronger than inhaled cigarette smoke or from vehicle exhaust systems. Government taxes on Cigarettes and cars spewing out carcinogens do not help in the decrease of the poison in the atmosphere cause by volcanic action.
dee66
2nd Feb 2015
3
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I can't believe how the vote is going! Surely everyone finds a smoke free environment much pleasanter.
I can remember having bronchial problems as a child with all the industrial and domestic pollution. The cleaner air has now put an end to my problem.
Freedom of choice is worth fighting for when it doesn't affect the health of those around us.
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
2
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But its not freedom of choice is it? Its what you, a non smoker wants. The smokers get no choice at all. Why not have(as I've said in previous comments) a choice of smoking allowed and smoking forbidden pubs. Then everybodies happy.
Florence Scholar
1st Feb 2015
5
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1. Have separate smoking & non-smoking areas in pubs (like they used to YEARS ago).
2. Ventilate them PROPERLY.
3. Give staff the CHOICE about whether or not they work in the smoking area.
4. Dont serve meals in the smoking area.

I, my partner & a lot of our friends used to participate in traditional music sessions on a regular basis - some of us smoked others didnt. When the smoking ban was implemented it destroyed the sessions (interestingly the musical giants in these get together were all smokers), the venue is closed now. We saw the writing on the wall for live traditonal music when the American tourists in Ireland drove a ban there. Yes you may still see one or two musicians "performing" for money, but those fluid dynamic & exciting to play in or listen to spontaneous sessions are a thing of the past... Sad.
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
1
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Absolutely! Just what I've been saying even down to having a selection of non smoking and smoking allowed pubs. Then all the non smokers can have their own, miserable smoke free pubs and smokers can start having fun again.
Carma
1st Feb 2015
7
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I don't spend much time in pubs, hated leaving reeking of cigarette smoke. Don't think smoking ban in pubs should be lifted but there must be a better option than all the smokers loitering around entrances to them?
fannyanny
1st Feb 2015
3
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Yes definitely! But have private smoking rooms so smoke doesnt bother other punters. At least one doesnt have to be belittled standing outside in all weathers. My son runs a pub and struggles to keep going - its a miracle he still does as thousands have lost their businesses due to this nanny state ruling.
Sue Mills
1st Feb 2015
5
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I am a non smoker, hate smoke BUT do feel that Pubs and Clubs have lost out on business due to the non smoking ban.
Many of my friends still smoke so if we visit our local they end up standing outside in all weathers so they can still get their fix whilst we sit inside.We could stand outside with them but the thought of standing in a HUGE ashtray is repulsive....
Here is a compromise: Why not have a smoking and non smoking bar, most pubs etc have 2 bars, would that not be more customer friendly? All the bans in the World are NOT going to make people stop smoking until they wish too or have too. I actually find the smoking outside buildings etc far more offensive.
When will we stop being a nanny state, let people make their own decisions, If you don't like smoking go to a non smoking pub, If you don't like drunks go to the pictures. lol
We should vote for the Party who care about the people, not those who are only interested in lining their own pockets.
bristolgirl
1st Feb 2015
2
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This will put a lot of people off voting for UKIP!
fannyanny
1st Feb 2015
6
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I believe it will be the opposite! People are fed up being dictated to.....in all walks of life.
jacklisterio
1st Feb 2015
2
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Really! Its always been in UKIPS manifesto to repeal the smoking ban since the smoking ban began back in 2007. Yet UKIP is winning everywhere.
stueystuey
1st Feb 2015
8
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Ukip haven't suggested all pubs are to allow smoking or that smoking to be permitted in the whole pub.
A small section could be cornered off, or the decision to be made by the landlord.
Windows have been taken out of the shelters outside work because of EU law saying 60% open space, IT'S OUTSIDE!!!!
baldeagle
1st Feb 2015
0
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Repealing the smoking ban is a bad move and a vote loser. The ban is helping to stop people dying and should remain. Nigel needs to concentrate on the the important things that are affecting our country if UKIP are to be taken as a serious contender in the coming election.
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
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People are going to die one day whether they smoke or not. Perhaps you would like drinking banned, driving, crossing the road etc. there should be a mixture of pubs that allow or don't allow smoking. People are fed up of being told wgat they can and can't do with their personal lives. Pubs are closing down because of the ban and smokers are just smoking in their own homes instead of going to the pub.
mooreberni
1st Feb 2015
4
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I am a smoker, but am also glad the smoking ban in public places came in. I hate people smoking when I am eating food and also hate the smell of stale smell smoke in rooms that have been smoked in.
straightlacedors
1st Feb 2015
7
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I do not smoke and don't like the smell of smoke BUT smoking is part of many peoples enjoyment and smoking always went with drink. Why not set aside a separate room for the smokers. Pubs are a dying place for social gatherings and I believe banning smoking is mostly to blame.
galprof
1st Feb 2015
4
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Why should the majority of people have to endure smoke on their clothes after being to the pub, not to mention near their food. Keep the ban in place. It took years to get it.
jukie
1st Feb 2015
5
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This poll does not indicate that UKIP would bring smoking back as long as there was a separate room such as snugs as they used to have. Smoking is still is a pleasure to millions of people in this country, with some of the young in our society and across the world still taking it up, even though there are issues to health, so why the ban in pubs? Why are we as adults, restricted by legislation that is neither wanted or needed.
People who smoke know its unhealthy; we are told everyday and the adverts and public money wasted on trying to get people to stop, to me, is a waste in itself. Yes ban smoking in public places where people like me do not wish to breathe in the abhorrent fumes that are exhaled from another person, but offer an area to the people who do enjoy a smoke and a drink and don't treat them like pariahs. You will not stop those people who choose to smoke, after all it's about freedom of choice.
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
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katyhorse
1st Feb 2015
2
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I am a smoker and do not want the smoking banned repealed, even though I smoke I find the smell of smoke in an enclosed space awful, I don't smoke in my house, so why smoke in someone elses.
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
1
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Then don't go to somewhere where smoking is allowed!
katyhorse
5th Feb 2015
2
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I'm happy smoking thankyou
nana Jo
1st Feb 2015
1
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Just the thought of the repeal revolts and scares me. I have lost too many relations and friends through passive smoking having been brought up in a world when smoking was thought glamorous
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
1
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Surely if smoking was allowed in some but not all pubs, you could only go to places where its not allowed. After all, nobodys forcing anybody to go to the pub!
minty
31st Jan 2015
3
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Absolutely not it is a disgusting habit and also very harmful . I worked in a hospital and have seem the result of smoking and I see no reason why this habit should be inflicted on people other than the ones stupid enough to have the habit !
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
0
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Its only influcted on you if you chose to go to a place where its allowed. It may be disgusting to you but to some its a life saver mentally. I cannot understand why people are so adamant about pubs being non smoking. Everywhere else is non smoking including all restaurants so why should you be so against a oub having a smoking area for instance? After all no one is forcing you to go to a pub. You can go to a non smoking bar or restaurant instead.
snigs
31st Jan 2015
1
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Madness! People who smoke make that choice, people who don't smoke don't want to breathe in the filthy, unhealthy smoke. This legislation needs to stay in place, to repeal it is a truly retrograde step. It is a health issue and the government should step in to protect health wherever and whenever possible, this is probably one of the best things they have done in the last 10 years. Hands off Nigel!!
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
-1
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Anyone would think you live in the pub. Go somewhere where its not allowed and let the poor old smokers have somewhere to go.
[deleted]
30th Jan 2015
3
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artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
-1
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I really don't think they are suggesting it should be allowed in restaurants, just the odd pub and bar. Why should you non smokers have a total monopoly?
Peter
29th Jan 2015
4
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No way should the smoking ban be repealed. I've just been to Austria skiing where many bars and restaurants still allow smoking and I was reminded how disgusting it used to be to have to endure other people smoke. That's without considering the health benefits. Shame on you Nigel.
Wilf
29th Jan 2015
4
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I agree Peter its a disgusting habit and while Nigel Farage may want to smoke his fags in a pub we don't want to breath in his stinking smoke!
[deleted]
30th Jan 2015
1
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artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
0
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Perhaps you should avoid Austria, Spain and Italy!
Archiebald
29th Jan 2015
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I used to like a cigar in pubs years ago. So long as they are well ventilated I don't see an issue
Fezziwig
1st Feb 2015
2
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The freedom argument that some use works both ways. What about the freedom to enjoy a smoke free atmosphere? UKIP claim to be in touch with most folks' views but in fact over many issues they are out of touch and only represent a minority.
artograffi
2nd Feb 2015
-1
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You do enjoy a smoke free atmosphere everywher. All that is suggested is that the ban is lifted in pubs and bars and i'm certain that would be at the landlords discretion. In other words, some pubs would allow it. People who hate it could go to the oubs that didn't allow it. He's not talking about restaurants, just the odd pub and bar.

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