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Is political correctness in our modern society, being taken too far or have we got the balance right? What are your views?

Is political correctness in our modern society, being taken too far or have we got the balance right? What are your views?


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ArchieUK
5th Sep 2016 09:32:14 (Last activity: 5th Sep 2016 09:45:35)
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I appreciate celtwitch's comments but it did not address my question, what is the difference between political correctness and censorship, or is there no real difference.
Response from Wilf made on 5th Sep 2016 09:34:05
I think PC trys to ensure that there is no discrimination and people are not offended. Censorship is by the state and is intended to stop people knowing a fact or information
Response from Alan247 made on 5th Sep 2016 09:45:35
There is discrimination in daily life, for instance, supermarkets give spaces over to Parent and Child parking, if all these spaces are taken, do they drive to the next supermarket to find an empty space?....no, they park anywhere, they have choice, I don't. The W.I. women only, men are excluded. PC on the other hand was invented to keep everything sweet, ..it might offend, you can't have a " page 3 " calendar on display...it might offend, the list goes on, myself I don't give a Rodent's I my remarks offend, my answer is...grow up
celtwitch
26th Aug 2016 15:52:33 (Last activity: 27th Aug 2016 17:10:56)
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Another way of looking at PC is when someone disagrees with something you have said but they don't have the wit to counter it, so they tell you, 'you can't say that, it's not PC.'
As I have said previously, the advocates of 'PC, diversity, equality and inclusion' are gutless cowards.
Response from jeanmark made on 26th Aug 2016 19:00:49
Celtwitch, is that a politically correct thing to say?
Response from KEITH_WL made on 27th Aug 2016 13:05:26
Another aspect of PC that I know we all have opinions about is swearing. I feel that Admin is ultra PC in the way it deals with this. Here are my views and suggestions:-

1) We are all grown up, indeed being Silver Surfers we all grew up a generation ago.

2) I believe that most of us are not foul-mouthed, indeed the number of people on the site who would count as foul-mouthed will be very small.

3) The evidence available to me says that most of us use the milder swear words from time to time.

4) Here's my own use of swear words:-
a) The four-letter f-word (I mean the stronger f-word) and the c-word I don't use at all.
b) The three shorter and longer b-words I use occasionally.
c) The sh-word I also use sometimes, but I also believe that English needs a way to describe an essential function. Does anyone really believe that "going to the bathroom" is a better use of language?
d) The other four-letter f-word, f*rt, also describes an essential human function, and this word has returned to everyday use in about the last decade. I use this word, though I sometimes also say 'breaking wind'.
e) Much the same can be said about the four-letter p-word.
f) I do use the four-letter a-word, usually in the expression "pain in the a**e". Indeed I believe I used this expression soon after joining Silver Surfers and it was censored. The rest of the message survived so it must have been a manual edit.
g) Once in a blue moon I might use the four-letter d-word.
h) Is the three-letter t-word regarded as acceptable these days?

My Suggestions
1) Editing or deletion of messages containing swear words should stop.
2) Admin should still keep an eye, in the interests of decency.
3) Some appropriate action if a member is frequently foul-mouthed could be taken. How about:-
a) first time - a gentle request
b) next time and following the gentle request, a warning
c) for another offence, expulsion, or temporary suspension?

These are only one person's ideas. I don't expect general agreement.

I can only apologise if editing destroys the sense of any part of this.
Response from Silversurfers Editor Original Poster made on 27th Aug 2016 13:36:40
Hello KEITH_WL

Thank you for your suggestions.

The one difference that our Silversurfers Forum and Facebook page have to almost any other community is the lack of swearing and use of words that some may find unpleasant and unnecessary.

Our community pages are designed to foster friendships, based on trust, honesty, integrity and loyalty and is underpinned by these values.

We get regular feedback saying how much people enjoy being part of our community such as this left yesterday 'I too love the site no foul language no aggressive comments great!'

Whilst we don't tolerate swearing, and reserve the right to remove any posts which we feel may offend others, we do feel that in some cases PC has overstepped common sense in the society we live in. We try to take a balanced view and accept that it is difficult to please everyone all of the time.

We have an automatic filter which highlights words that our not deemed pleasant to use on Silversurfers. Yes, we are all grown ups, however with so many words available to use in the English language there are always alternatives to use.

Also, there is always the Private Chat option for conversations that you don't wish other to see.

There are plenty of other Forums and Facebook pages that don't worry about offending others and we are shocked on a daily basis at how negative and destructive conversations can become.

We are a very small team and try and do our best to ensure that Silversurfers remains a place where people feel comfortable and safe to visit and this will always remain our top priority.

With very best wishes, and hope you enjoy your weekend
Sally 🙂
Response from KEITH_WL made on 27th Aug 2016 15:17:00
Thank you for the detailed response, Sally. I hope it was clear from my post that I am no fan of truly foul language and that it was principally a plea to move the boundaries a bit. As described, I personally only use the milder words, and those not often. However I see no harm in the occasional use of expressions like "pain in the a**e" and it is true that almost anyone is likely to use the word "f*rt" these days - which was certainly not so in my youth or even my middle age. Boundaries do move anyway and I believe that my suggestions are more in the spirit of adapting to the changes than in driving them.
Keith
Response from jeanmark made on 27th Aug 2016 15:31:54
I have to agree with Lionel that moving the boundaries a little could help when describing some issues. I would hope no-one would set out to be deliberately offensive and do appreciate that a number of people feel safe in using this site, but surely some of the words Lionel has suggested are no longer as offensive as they would have been when we where young. Many are now in the Oxford English dictionary!
Response from jeanmark made on 27th Aug 2016 15:49:36
Sorry Keith and Lionel, obviously got a little muddled - Lionel should read Keith, my fault for watching a thunderstorm at the same time and not concentrating.
Response from celtwitch made on 27th Aug 2016 17:10:56
I think that on Silversurfers (we must be protected from swear words at all cost, we are all highly sensitive OAP's) the censor is rather less PC and more of a 'Parochial Curmudgeon.'
alikins 5 M
12th Aug 2016 20:21:47 (Last activity: 24th Aug 2016 18:56:55)
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I thought PC meant politically correct but who decides what is politically correct.I think we old timers are far more broad minded than the younger generation........we do not want a world where we all think the same .Twas ever thus.
Response from Boots made on 17th Aug 2016 11:17:44
Lionel the younger generations have been being manipulated in several ways, not just political correctness, and free speech.

Health and safety also has a lot to answer for. Yes I know there is a need for some H&S but it has got ridiculous these days. From a very early age they are taught that all sorts of things are scary and should be avoided. These are normal things in life which we all used to learn about when we played games and so on. My granddaughter was not allowed to play chasing games at school in case someone fell over! All men are probably paedophiles, and even women probably want to take you away to goodness knows where. I think it is all designed to create a society most of whom will not question anything and do as they are told by those in charge.

As an aside, well done to our Olympians who have had to guts and determination to compete and win medals. We want more people like this in all areas of life.
Response from jeanmark made on 17th Aug 2016 14:01:49
Boots, I agree with both Lionel and yourself on many of the PC issues but I know from experience the HSE are often blamed for H&S issues they (or the Government) have not introduced but that may have arisen because we have become a far more ligatious society. That makes people nervous thus 'Peanut Butter" has to state 'may contain peanuts'. A further example is the bus company that were sued when the tour operator pointed out there were seat belts but didn't state you had to wear them and were then sued after a minor shunt and a person hit their head! As a society we have, as both you and Lionel have noted, become incapable of using our own common sense without being told what to do and if something doesn't go to plan look for someone to blame and I believe such problems been influenced by the State, they certainly look for scapegoats.

We were lucky to grow up as well rounded as we have. We fell over in the playground, ate dirt and used our imagination to amuse ourselves although I do have to admit that my father wouldn't allow me to watch Quatermass!
Response from KEITH_WL made on 22nd Aug 2016 21:31:58
I wonder how old you were, Jeanmark, when your father wouldn't allow you to watch Quatermass. There is a difference between a parent being cautious about when a child may do something and Society imposing blanket rules.

By the way, in our tiny, safe town, at around the age of eleven, I watched Quatermass at my grandparents' neighbours (we had no television) then walked home on my own, about a mile, at around midnight. My family was a very caring one, but it was regarded as normal. They wouldn't have left me alone in a house overnight. The logic might seem strange but nobody thought it so.
Response from jeanmark made on 23rd Aug 2016 14:21:13
Well Keith, I was young and my father was trying to protect me from having nightmares. This was from a man who had a very traumatic childhood as an orphan in 1912 Glasgow. But I agree there is a great difference between being a caring parent and society imposing blanket rules. I think we are all agreed, PC has gone too far but we risk blaming the state for everything when it is often people themselves. I believe Lionel has given good examples. When my niece became upset at my sister not cleaning everything with bacterial wipes, my sister pointed out that she had brought her and her siblings up without them and they were all healthy so what was the problem! We all appear to have survived the trials and tribulations of childhood only to be told we don't understand risk.
Response from KEITH_WL made on 23rd Aug 2016 18:42:10
Crazy, isn't it? We are the ones who do understand risk, who assess it with common sense and estimate it. One of the worst mistakes of modern society is black and white thinking - risk/not risk. We would be more inclined to think "risk 20% of a bad outcome, broken leg if it occurs" or "risk 70% of a bad outcome, cut finger if it occurs" and then decide whether to give it a go.
Response from KEITH_WL made on 23rd Aug 2016 19:38:48
Follow-up: In retrospect I think my views on risk as presented are over-precise. Risk 70% would be more convincing as "fairly high risk"< the other one perhaps as "fairly low risk". Etc.
Response from jeanmark made on 24th Aug 2016 13:10:39
I think assessing risk from a professional perspective is necessary and why we do need the HSE, but for 'normal' day to day living common sense should kick in but doesn't appear to. As for being PC that often has nothing to do with risk!
Response from KEITH_WL made on 24th Aug 2016 15:14:27
I was responding to your comment about risk in this conversation, Jeanmark. In any case I firmly believe that the attitudes behind PC (mustn't risk offending) and over the top H&S (mustn't risk injury) have much in common, being driven by black and white thinking.
Response from jeanmark made on 24th Aug 2016 15:46:16
I won't argue with that Keith and like you I feel so many things appear driven by black and white thinking (is that non-PC)? In reality things usually fall in various shades of grey and I don't mean 50!
Response from KEITH_WL made on 24th Aug 2016 18:56:55
Yes, exactly my opinion.
Alan247
23rd Aug 2016 18:45:19
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I got my PC from UnPC world and I don't give a rodents who my PC upsets
MorrisandDoris
10th Aug 2016 00:00:39 (Last activity: 11th Aug 2016 18:27:19)
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PC stands for Political Control, basically it removes free speech!
Response from jeanmark made on 10th Aug 2016 11:22:33
Depends on how you define free speech but I don't think PC is about Politics, I prefer the term Polite Correctness - that's what most of us were brought up to follow. I do believe it has gone too far.
Response from MorrisandDoris made on 10th Aug 2016 22:15:18
Political Control or State Censorship or sweep it under the carpet,ignore it,look the other way all these can mean the same, most people just can't handle the truth so lets not tell them and call it PC !
Response from jeanmark made on 11th Aug 2016 14:28:10
I still don't agree it is Politics or State Censorship and what do you mean "most people just can't handle the truth so lets not tell them and call it PC". What has 'manhole cover' got to do with truth, its a term used to describe an object but is now considered non-PC. There are some terms that are no longer appropriate to use and fall under being PC as they can cause hurt and distress but I have to agree somethings have gone too far. However, one thing hasn't changed under the PC umbrella - a single woman is a 'Spinster' while a single man always remains Mister, surely thats not PC!
Response from MorrisandDoris made on 11th Aug 2016 16:41:12
My comment wasn't meant to include manholes and other such triva but the more serious side of our society like being called a Racist for flying the English flag, comments on stopping immigration you can be called racist.
My point being is the racist umbrella comes out every time to stop people from commenting ,I don't agree with racism at all but somethings need to be addressed ,the government dont tell us the facts for reason I stated,we can't handle the truth and neither can the Government so nothing gets done.
PC is overused and together with the E.C.H.R makes it all a pathetic joke !
Response from jeanmark made on 11th Aug 2016 18:27:19
I don't disagree totally with your comments although I've never experienced anyone being called a racist for flying the English flag, I've only read inaccurate reports by the news media. I have to be honest, I've never had the desire to fly any flag in my garden, too noisy when windy. I do agree the PC card is raised too often but I'm not convinced it is always by the Government. As for the European Courts - enough said.
Lib
9th Aug 2016 13:05:27 (Last activity: 11th Aug 2016 17:29:44)
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I live in the US and PC is a joke. Just because someone doesn't use a term that may not be PC does not mean they are or aren't a racist or bigot. I would prefer people speak their mind and I will decide if I want to spend my time with them. Recently my boss made my supervisor change my evaluation to reflect that training may be needed in discrimination/inclusiveness as my university adopted a policy of PC and because I am white, well I must need help to better understand the plight of other cultures. No, I don't. I am open to meeting people from anywhere. I like you or dislike you based on my interaction with you, it's really as simple as that.
Response from jeanmark made on 10th Aug 2016 11:25:18
Well said although 'speaking ones mind' can often be misinterpreted and cause unintended offence.
Response from celtwitch made on 10th Aug 2016 21:55:24
If something needs to be said, and if someone needs to be put in their place, then ballcocks to PC.
No-one has a right not to be offended. If you are so sensitive that you can't cope with criticism, perhaps you should consider taking holy orders?
Response from KEITH_WL made on 10th Aug 2016 23:36:06
While I agree with the first part, CeltWitch, the logic of your statement "If you are so sensitive that you can't cope with criticism, perhaps you should consider taking holy orders?" defeats me.
Response from jeanmark made on 11th Aug 2016 14:18:34
I agree KEITH_WL, I can't quite understand the statement made by celtwitch. If someone is upset at someone speaking 'their mind' why automatically assumed someone is sensitive to criticism. You can use a derogatory term to describe someone without being critical although I agree the person may be sensitive to the use of such a term.
Response from celtwitch made on 11th Aug 2016 16:09:14
Taking 'holy orders' would have the effect of insulating you from the cruel and nasty world, in which people sometimes say things that might offend.
Response from KEITH_WL made on 11th Aug 2016 17:29:44
"Taking 'holy orders' would have the effect of insulating you from the cruel and nasty world" - that is a remarkable statement and you're usually better informed than that.
Keith
harryhand3
4th Mar 2016 21:42:20 (Last activity: 18th Jun 2016 20:46:15)
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I am not sure what the term political correctness means.

There have always been norms of behaviour, and, with time these change.

Change is constant, and we have to change with it.
Response from MorrisandDoris made on 18th Jun 2016 20:46:15
I think it means whatever the government wants it to be,so I think its become a form of State sponsored censorship, we can't say anything about too much immigration into the country because they say thats being racist, fly our English flag in your own garden is racist to none English people and I could go on,so I think PC should really mean is Political Control.

Perhaps when we vote out of the EU on Thursday and close our borders things might revert to how they used to be, no PC, just our good British manners and with free speech.
Joan Fraser
12th Mar 2016 09:40:00 (Last activity: 14th Jun 2016 12:22:49)
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In terms of language used I agree that words can and do hurt. But I think PC is more about managing unhealthy attitudes. In my work with people and families affected by learning disability, I hear horrible terms used (on purpose), but I also know of well meaning folks scared to talk to us incase they cause offence by using the wrong terminology.

Ok I get it that some terms we used to use may be termed as 'racially offensive' but I have NEVER knowingly used terms to cause offence, nor did my family. We never bought into the religious bigotry so many around us did/do - I have visited Temples, Churches, Chapels and Cathedrals'. I have been fortunate to visit The Wailing Wall and The Vatican, I fully respect and do not question people of all faiths and/or none; it's not my business so long as no one tells me I'm in the wrong because I don't share their faith, customs, or belief

To my Grandparents our local ice-cream shop was known as 'The Tallys') because a lovely family of Italians ran it, like many people we used to get sent to "The Pakki Shop" for some items that "Old Jenny". the local newsagent didn't stock, and I thoroughly enjoyed many a conversation with Rai the shop owner, and also welcomed his sons friendship when we moved to live near them. I have been referred to as Jock, asked if I am speaking Jockinese, and told jokingly that I'm a Haggis Muncher (sometimes by Rai) - and indeed I am a muncher of haggis 🙂

I no longer use the terms above because I know they can be inflammatory, but I have no problem with people acknowledging me, my nationality or heritage as long as they are not mocking me, my family, or my culture.....In fact a wee unPC joke can be a great ice-breaker as long as no malice is intended. Regarding Political Correctness, we need to loosen up a bit and get over ourselves - and that goes for all creeds and colours and cultures
Response from jeanmark made on 14th Jun 2016 10:46:45
Well said Joan Fraser and I agree we need to loosen up a bit with regard to political correctness. My husband will hold a door open for anyone regardless of gender because he was taught manners as a child. However, some months ago he held the door open for a young lady to walk though and was accused of sexism and being non-PC - he let the door close on her as he didn't want to offend. She then open the door and shouted out that he was a rude oaf, his response "You can't have it both ways lady" and walked on.
Response from KEITH_WL made on 14th Jun 2016 12:22:49
PC has gone way too far, as has bureaucracy, also Health and Safety. There's a remark attributed to Martin Luther that man is such a creature that if he falls off his horse on the right-hand side then he'll make sure next time to fall off on the left.
pjmcg
14th Aug 2015 09:43:15 (Last activity: 23rd Apr 2016 17:18:45)
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An interesting phrase, "political correctness", rarely actually defined by those who use it. It's usually used as a pejorative term which is interesting in itself as being "correct" always used to be a good thing. There is a view that right wing conservatives and libertarians push the term in order to divert attention from more substantive matters of discrimination and as part of a wider cultural war against liberalism of any form. Perhaps instead of any obsession with political correctness we could usefully think in terms of being sensitive or thoughtful to other people's needs?
Response from Wilf made on 14th Aug 2015 19:16:19
Totally agree with your last few words--- we could usefully think in terms of being sensitive or thoughtful to other people's needs?---If only we could all adopt this what a happy world it could be!!!
Response from dunno made on 17th Oct 2015 19:39:49
we could usefully think in terms of being sensitive or thoughtful to other people's needs?
well we could do that and most people tend to do just that .
how ever you can get a crowd off people who tend to think that the local area is theirs to use as they please , this could be a crowd off youngsters , or football fans , drug users etc .
those things we can as a community generally deal with , at one stage we could trust the local council and police to assst with the problem .
thats not the case today , political correctness has destroyed common sense and taken the trust away from the public .
i will give each person their rights and respect that in return i expect the same back , if thats not to be the case im afraid YOU change my attitude and if that attidude is not correct from a polital stand point then i should change my politics , not my attitude ?
Response from Lydia1960 made on 23rd Apr 2016 17:18:45
You seem to have the more measured viewpoint in this matter. It's easy to dismiss political correction as a step towards madness, but unless you've travelled in someone's shoes, you cannot possibly imagine the damage done by 'insensitive remarks, thinking and behaviour'. Unless you are just concerned with protecting your own hinterland, being thoughtful towards another's feelings, and responding in kind to that, should surely be 'hotwired' into our human psyche.. agree, that sometimes this can go to the extreme, but that is usually the depth of someone's experiences that has made them so 'defensive...'.
lyn44
13th Mar 2016 00:31:55
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PC has gone to far we are now afraid to say anything in case it offends, but sorry i think some times we just have to say it how we feel
Joan Fraser
20th Nov 2015 12:00:03 (Last activity: 30th Jan 2016 17:28:20)
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I believe that PC (like Health & Safety) has long since stopped being any force for good. I see/hear examples of PC/H&S regularly being used to excuse laziness and limit person choice for the young, disabled, and elderly in particular, but it also impacts on all of us. Oh for goodness sake, my brothers had forts, toy soldiers, guns & holsters, bows & arrows etc. and I'm delighted to report neither are mass murderers or violent men! My friend who has Downs Syndrome is a happy bunny living quite independently, but she values her neighbours checking she is ok in bad weather, I would never insult a kind person who offers me a seat or accuse them of patronising me, and I could not walk past a distressed child without seeing if I could help in some way - however I know many avoid these simple acts of kindness for fear of being labelled with some horrible name. Let's get real again please
Response from orchardlane made on 30th Nov 2015 14:35:53
I was about to reply but then thought any view on this subject might be flagged as inappropriate!
Response from Pussk2 made on 30th Jan 2016 17:28:20
Oh how I agree.
senile
5th Jan 2016 15:12:19
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Political correctioness is as always,subject to the individual,thus hard to judge as far as necessity.When encountering people from differing cultures/racial/ethnical walks of life(especially those we are unfamiliar with),tis best to error on the side of caution.When it comes to showing respect and/or compassion to others,tis not.
GrayH
1st Nov 2015 17:40:46
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In my opinion, PC has lost its way.
Before I retired, I worked as a social worker and had to tolerate all of the many changes that were filtering in concerning PC. A student social worker told me that when he was training at a certain university, he was given the third degree because he asked for a white coffee in the refectory. He was informed that it was, 'coffee with milk'. This was just the start of the whole,thing.
My own experience showed me that that it was like walking on egg shells most days, where one had to be careful just what was said, or written.
I must say, I was glad to get out of it all. I have been retired now for 4'years and I'm afraid it has all become much worse.
Flowerbucket
21st Jul 2014 10:46:41 (Last activity: 17th Oct 2015 20:07:14)
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I think it's got all out of perspective. Human Rights and fairness is a right we should all have in the hands of a decent government and my heart goes out to all those people all over the world who suffer from the most horrific abuses caused by their intolerant governments. BUT!!!! When it gets to the point that you are not allowed to speak out loud anything negative about anything or anybody at risk of punishment - which is where we're heading - then I have to ask myself if I'm living in a democracy or a Marxist controlled experiment. Frankly political correctness in this country has now become a farce. We are being forced to accept the activities and dictates of small groups of people with a loud voice, who carry out all kinds of practices that are abhorrent to many of us, yet we are not allowed to speak our minds for fear of prosecution. As for making a joke with anyone...forget it. 😥
Response from dunno made on 17th Oct 2015 20:07:14
its not a marxist controlled state , theirs a vidio on google that shows how the russians dealing with their own problems , and a oxford union debate on china , real eye openers and we are allowed to make jokes , the irish you have to love they can laugh at then selfs , their culture is in their music the launguage their generosity their poetry but its strongest in each and every heart , they are our true neibours a enemy and friend much the same as the scots and welsh .
all off which we co exist with , we the english were forged as a nation with their participation and wouldent exist without it ?
so do what they do carry the strength hope and faith and right of your cause in your heart and be prepare to defend it as our neighbours have . i dont think the pc crowd have the will and stregth off the roman army , they gave up with the scots found it difficult with the welsh , wouldnt consider taking on the irish , and although they took control off the english tribes i dont think they could call the exercise a sucess . were ot being forced to accept anything we never have and i doubt we every will , we dont need to be told how to behave we already know any one who thinks we need telling may be making a mistake ?
Mal
14th Aug 2015 16:24:40 (Last activity: 6th Oct 2015 16:43:58)
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Political Correctness was quite simply a means of gagging us via the back door! It is probably the most anti-British project ever foisted on the British public.
Being told we must not wave a union flag in case a non-Brit is offended? Not supposed to advertise Christmas in case a non-Christian is offended by Christmas!! I could go on but to what advantage?
I am offended by people burning our flag in our country whilst receiving benefits!! Chanting that our Armed Forces and Police "GO TO HELL"!!
PC has eroded our freedom of speech quite spectacularly and given the "foreigners" greater rights than the British have in our own country!!
Response from Wilf made on 14th Aug 2015 19:15:10
In some ways PC is good as I think we have become a much more tolerant and fair society however it has gone completely over the top where nobody dare comment (including the media) for fear of breaking the law or ridicule. having said that with the internet we do have incredible freedom of speech. The UK is probably the best country in the world for freedom of speech
Response from Boots made on 6th Oct 2015 16:43:58
How much I agree with you Mal. We are gradually being controlled more and more of our rights eroded. The latest thing I read was about in large companies where there are people of different religions etc that any food heated by members of staff for their lunch or whatever should not be anything that may upset someone else, no sausage rolls for instance in case it upsets a muslim or someone who wants their meat to be halal. This is not law as such yet, but a suggestion by a group that can influence government policy. The laugh is when we were on holiday in Israel,(another non pork eating people) there were butchers shops selling pork, bacon etc etc all in the open for anyone who wanted to buy it.
wenzel
15th Sep 2015 04:23:09
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Whenever I hear some person use that term, its code words for the fact that the person using it does not like the changes in society, and I think..hey remember when you were a kid and your elders told you the world was going to hell, pining for the "good old days"... same thing.. it's someone who resents the fact that tenets or things they held dear are gone.. and for the most part, I say good riddance.. change with the times or get old....
tel-boy
22nd Jul 2014 23:14:03
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I agree with you Flowerbucket 1,000%. Political correctness is becoming the downfall of this England we all call home. Our school children can't learn the stories we learnt at school. Pigs and other ornaments have been removed from banks and offices so the great Piggy Bank savings we used as children has now gone forever. I am fed up with the wealthy Tories and its co-herts and also with Labour for rejecting the unions so, the only one left to vote for next year is UKIP. I am pleased that I will not be alive in 50 years time when we have a muslim parliament.
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Nurturing a safe environment

Our Silversurfers community is designed to foster friendships, based on trust, honesty, integrity and loyalty and is underpinned by these values.

We don't tolerate swearing, and reserve the right to remove any posts which we feel may offend others... let's keep it friendly!