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English Grammar

How important is the correct use of English grammar and punctuation to you on social networking sites? If you see something mis-spelt on Facebook are you itching to correct it, or does it not detract from the what you are reading?


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Ustroll
6th Mar 2019 21:08:30
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Language is volatile, which is self evident by virtue of the fact that we don’t talk like William Shakespeare, any more. What depresses me is the fact that this volatility, is from the streets, upwards, so it is incumbent on our education system that we maintain a certain standard, as was the case in my youth. PLEASE. For the sake of my sanity!
Beewee
24th Feb 2019 18:12:16
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I have two pet hates, more to do with pronunciation, but irritating none the less. These are ‘skelington’ instead of skeleton and ‘somethink’ instead of something. I really struggle not to correct people when they use them
Jellina
18th Feb 2019 10:23:22
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I'm a non-native English speaker; so I like to read discussion boards on grammar.

What I find somewhat amusing is that some people who express utter disdain for the grammatically challenged have spelling and syntax errors in their post/s.

Sometimes, those with a high and mighty tone are the ones whose grammar and spelling I'm tempted to correct. But I don't.
McGilchrist
3rd Feb 2019 10:56:21
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My Grandson tells me grammar is not important any more because the computer will correct it for you. I ask him how does the computer know what you what you mean?
David46
11th Jan 2019 07:02:35 (Last activity: 25th Jan 2019 10:12:50)
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Why is it so difficult to pronounce the letter t these days, so often it is ignored. And what on earth does the phrase 'ahead of 'mean when announcers talk about something coming before or after something, I don't know what they mean. At the top of the hour presumably means at whatever o clock.
If we gradually erode English and say it does not matter, what on earth are we going to end up with?
Response from DeeAnnJ made on 25th Jan 2019 10:12:50
I wonder what Chaucer, Shakespeare or Jane Austen would make of current English usage.
Sunbird73
4th Aug 2018 19:49:42 (Last activity: 27th Oct 2018 19:18:44)
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Why are TV presenters and others in the media unable to use correct grammer I was taught that liquid is measured in drops not bits e.g. weather forcasters now refer to a bit of rain. One is singular therefore the correct phrase is This one or these not these ones which seems to be used by people who are supposed to be educated to degree level. I wonder how they ever passed their exams. Another pet hate of mine is being adressed as a guy, a group of all females should be addressed as ladies and a mixed sex group as everybody or even folks. I invariably correct anyone who uses "Guys" when i am a member of the party by saying excuse me I am female and not a guy.
Response from jeanmark made on 5th Aug 2018 13:55:17
Invariably, if a weather forecaster said 'drops' of rain, some bright spark would ask how many! As to education, as long as the written grammar is correct, speaking it isn't necessary to gain a degree. Whether we like it or not, we live in modern times and the Queen's english is no longer necessary to be able to communicate and be understood - if it was, half our presenters would be out of a job as they have regional accents.
Response from MarionE6 made on 26th Oct 2018 21:20:32
English still needs a capital letter and a lot of the spoken English by newsreaders and commentators has nothing to do with regional accents but mostly laziness e.g li'le instead of little
Response from jeanmark made on 27th Oct 2018 19:18:44
Oh dear Marion, I believe I have just been reprimanded and I do believe that regional accents can alter the way certain words are spoken. I will in future remember to check that I have used a capital letter when writing the word English and correct all my friends who have strong regional accents. and thus pronounce words 'incorrectly'!
A CD
21st Sep 2018 09:29:45
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I have noticed lately that reporters on TV say that something is "not fit the purpose". Surely the correct way to say it would be, it "does not fit the purpose" or "is not fit for the purpose"? Am I just being pedantic?
David46
15th Aug 2018 17:54:35 (Last activity: 16th Aug 2018 05:40:58)
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Am I alone in cringing at American spelling. In my mind I have to add back the U's and change sidewalk to pavement etc.
English grammar seems to be losing its importance to young people, I wonder what sort of a language English will become in future years.
Response from David46 made on 16th Aug 2018 05:40:58
I agree time moves on, I can accept the demise of the semi colon but I still cringe at broadcasters saying things like 'at the top of the hour' and 'ahead of the news's. I don't even know what that means, is it before or after the news?
If telepathy becomes the order of the day that would be disastrous, what would happen when a lady asks you if a dress suits her, you know you would make a diplomatic reply but your brain waves immediately shoot back a reply that it looks ridiculous.
In the matter of grammar maybe I am becoming a grumpy old man, but I remember the unintentionally humourous cry that went up when we went decimal,' why can't they wait until all the old people are dead'?
Imaoptimist
5th Jul 2018 08:41:18
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For me improper spelling is worse , So many Kindle books have been spellchecked. but not proofread it is very outputting, Sometimes even enough for me to stop reading the book
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4th Jul 2018 20:03:12
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Cherish
23rd May 2018 13:07:39
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Personally, I like to use punctuation marks . To me grammar is very important having said that, I'm not itching to correct other peoples' mistakes.
BillPark
23rd Mar 2018 09:56:53
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English GRAMMER IS DEAD
Sandy 58
18th Feb 2018 11:05:55
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Is it not time that we stopped segregating our childern at an early age by sending them to catholic, hindu, muslim, or jewish only schools.. By doing that we are saying our particular religion is best and are not reflecting the multicultural society our children belong to and need to adapt to in life,
welshpet
2nd Aug 2017 17:03:22
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I just want to know what others feel about my main gripe? I absolutely hate hearing children referred to as 'kids'. I was brought up in the knowledge that kids were baby goats. How would you feel about having gloves or handbags/purses made from childrens' skin?
HJR58
7th Jul 2017 14:06:11 (Last activity: 7th Jul 2017 16:48:55)
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Personally I think it's very important. We should be using our own language properly. Everyone makes mistakes, but some of the spelling I see makes me despair.
Response from Treehugger1 made on 7th Jul 2017 16:48:55
I confess I feel the same but then I rap myself on the knuckles and remind myself that not everyone has the advantage of a good education.
jeanmark
11th Jun 2017 18:26:41 (Last activity: 27th Jun 2017 10:15:52)
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A link for the Grammar police and a nice gift for friends. https://www.notonthehighstreet.com/theliterarygiftcompany/product/grammar-grumbles-mugs?
Response from CaroleAH made on 11th Jun 2017 22:40:42
They are all great, Jeanmark. Think my favourite is "They're there for their afternoon tea" 🙂
Response from jeanmark made on 12th Jun 2017 13:38:27
Thanks Carole.
Response from CaroleAH made on 12th Jun 2017 23:57:33
It certainly is - some words which spring to mind, which must be so difficult for anyone learning English, are cough, bough, dough and rough. Only the first letter is different but they all sound completely different.
Response from KEITH_WL made on 26th Jun 2017 23:03:05
I particularly like "Don't lose the loose-leaf tea".
Response from CaroleAH made on 27th Jun 2017 10:15:52
I can remember a long, long time ago as a 7 year old child having to read out loud in class - not sure what the book was but there was a character called Penelope. No guesses as to what I called her - you're right, it was Pennylope 🙂 much to the amusement of the rest of the class! I think that that along with announcing Psalm 121 as Palm 121 sealed my dislike, even to this day, of reading out loud; my help certainly didn't come from the hills that day!
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22nd Jan 2017 09:17:45 (Last activity: 3rd May 2017 08:50:33)
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Response from Dellboy56 made on 3rd May 2017 08:50:33
Hi Yodama, sorry, being the technically inept i've only just seen this:-), fully agree with all your comments. The young man in question was indeed a very personable chap, well presented at the interview to become a vehicle recovery technician. Not the most sought after post perhaps but I like it, and a large portion of the work for good or bad is working with the police. Therein lies the problem. Even us simple driver/techs are loaded with paperwork from dvla, police, and lord knows who else. If your tacho is written up wrong or a maintenance check is wrong your in trouble and fined. Worse, the police paperwork is a legal document from an accident or crime scene and can be brought in as evidence in court, the ramifications of which are obvious, hence because of this lads lack of education he sadly fell at the first hurdle, quite possibly through no fault of his own!
Mike_P
18th Apr 2017 11:53:56 (Last activity: 18th Apr 2017 15:04:24)
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As a former Primary School teacher, I can empathise with those here who lament the apparent increase in the use of non-standard English. However, lately, I find that I’m less inclined to a pedantic insistence on correcting ‘errors’.

As we know, language is primarily functional, intent on getting across a message. Because of our socialisation and nostalgic preference for stylistic (considered ‘correct’) usage, we often think that our precious ‘standard English’ is a fixed entity and must not be allowed to wither. But, knowing that spoken and written language is always subject to organic change, I can let go my former frustrations at the blatant non-standard use of the apostrophe or with those who display a happy ignorance of non-countable nouns and insist on ‘less’ rather than ‘fewer’.

The Bard of Avon’s double negative tendency helps one to smile at this insistence of we ‘oldies’ on ‘correct English’. If my comments have offended, think but this and all is mended. …That we have but slumbered here …for a while, within our time specific ‘standard English’ period. I suspect that within a few hundred years, the apostrophe will have become redundant. Text speak suggests that meaning is conveyed principally by contextual references. Prhps vwls 2 wll nt b nccsry. The aesthetic value of such developments may not thrill we who once lovingly embraced our irregular past participles, subjunctive moods and verb complements but, the culture will move on without taking any of our admonishments to heart.
Response from jeanmark made on 18th Apr 2017 15:04:24
Well said Mike.
CaroleAH
22nd Jan 2017 13:09:59 (Last activity: 13th Mar 2017 09:35:52)
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Good afternoon everyone! I agree with LittleMinx that in today's PC world, we are letting our children/grandchildren down if they cannot spell or punctuate correctly. In the interests of "creativity" nothing is corrected - so lessons are not learned. In the "olden days" when I was at school we had whole lessons dedicated to writing legibly and punctuating passages of prose so that when we eventually left school we were literate (and numerate, but that's another story!). When I worked as a Practice Manager, in a GP surgery, I used to cringe when I read some of the job application letters which people sent in. Some applicants had obviously not read the job specification - like the person applying for a position as a Practice Nurse who did not have any nursing qualifications - and others who were obviously applying because they were required by DSS to submit job applications before they qualified for unemployment benefits. The following might make you smile! On a profile on a dating website the personable chap states "I am very good, in bed by midnight, and very careful when punctuating long sentences." - well, I thought it was funny, so on that note I shall leave and make some lunch!
Response from RobinD made on 13th Mar 2017 09:35:52
Quite ironic that you typed 'Englsih'...
patcaf
23rd Jan 2017 11:19:21 (Last activity: 27th Jan 2017 11:31:59)
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I think there is a level of rose tinted glasses here. Education was always patchy and where I was brought up in Glasgow's Gorbals , education was very poor. Many people left school unable to read never mind understand grammar. So there was no golden age of well educated people who spoke and wrote the Queen's English. It depended on your background . I have been recruiting and reading job applications for many years and I do not find they are getting worse. Different, I agree, and the use of text and dialect is increasing but that is the way of the world.

My grandchildren use text speak all the time and do not really bother about grammatical correctness. Their view is ' can I be understood' ; if so that is fine. I wrote a legal response for my 40 year old daughter last week and she then toned down the grammar as she said people would find it over fussy and it would lose impact. Probably right.

English changes constantly and today it is about being understood rather than any formal grammar or even formal English. Just go with the flow and accept we are old school and that someday your grandchildren will be old school and complaining about the next generation's use of Artificial Intelligence to do everything including writing.
Response from medicineman made on 27th Jan 2017 11:31:59
Very sensible and truthful answer, making interesting reading Thank you
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